The government shouldn't be regulating such things.

ox45tallboy: boomm: There will be a challenge to this, if they leave 'psychiatric' in the list of beneficial tasks. Companion animals might get their own category.

This begs the question, are "Companion Animals" actually "Service Animals" under this definition? In other words, what service have they been "trained" to perform? The kind of people who have "Companion Animals" usually carry around paperwork showing their emotional disability or whatever, but no paperwork on the pet - because there is none. Have these animals actually been "trained" to provide emotional support?

sleeps in trees pointed out that his dog is trained to help his son, who has a true psychological issue.

I think that they included "other mental disability" because one of the lawmakers' aunt has a companion animal and a note from her doctor, and she's filthy rich, hates her kids, and is about to die soon.



I was also kind of curious why they didn't define the mental disability. Does this mean because I'm a crazy coont with PMS (which I am) I get to bring a shiatzu with me to Safeway? It seems very vague.

For an animal to be a Service Animal the person first must have a disability. Second the service the animal provides must be reasonably related to the disability. So you are not supposed to take a emotional service animal with you were ever you go just because you feel like it. You could only do this if you were of such fragile condition that you had to take it with you everywhere you go.

One of the biggest problems is there is no way to address this if you are a business owner, because, as one person already noted, a business owner is not allowed to ask any questions once they are informed the animal is a service animal. They cannot even ask the person what disability they have.

The law should have been modified so when challenged a person had to provide a standard card (kind of like a handicap parking permit) noting an animal was an actual service animal. The cards could be issued by their doctors, and doctors must make a finding of the existence of an actual disability and that they service animal's benefit is related to the disability.

ox45tallboy: ox45tallboy: Smoking Hot wife's Testimony (from the church web site:

I continued in my church and begged God for His will for a mate 'cause I knew I'd be there until God moved me. We had a missions conference and Joe was asked to come and meet me by one of the guest missionaries. He didn't really want to come, but he came. I kept an eye on him all service to see if he actually liked church and enjoyed it He ended up calling me the next day at work and asked me out for a date.

It seems to be missing something...

maybe, "Dear Penthouse"?

Oooopsie, wrong thread....



OK that was awesome.

graeylin: Telephone Sanitizer Second Class: Whatthefark: Oh, and they should have some form of ID like a vest that says they are a service animal. It must be issued by an official agency too, not bought off some pet website.

This. So much this.

You can ask two questions.
Is it a service animal? What is it trained to do?

here's a page to help a bit with FAQ's.
http://www.iaadp.org/doj-def-comments-Title-II-III-SA.html

I gave that a read-through and found this nifty bit;

"5. Service Animals. The rule defines "service animal" as a dog that has been individually trained to do work or perform tasks for the benefit of an individual with a disability. The rule states that other animals, whether wild or domestic, do not qualify as service animals. Dogs that are not trained to perform tasks that mitigate the effects of a disability, including dogs that are used purely for emotional support, are not service animals. The final rule also clarifies that individuals with mental disabilities who use service animals that are trained to perform a specific task are protected by the ADA. The rule permits the use of trained miniature horses as alternatives to dogs, subject to certain limitations. To allow flexibility in situations where using a horse would not be appropriate, the final rule does not include miniature horses in the definition of "service animal."

If I understand that correctly, anyone who has some little ankle biter for constant snuggling is full of shiat. Did I decipher that right?

sleeps in trees: I'm not pissy at anybody, sorry if it came off that way. I suppose it irks me because so many people walk around with freaking lap dogs in their arms and think nothing of entering the grocery store etc. I mean personally I have no idea if the dog has had vaccinations (required for service dogs) is going to bite and I cannot tell you how many times one has come up to ours while he is working. If I here "ooh isn't that cute he wants to play" one more time I'm going to slap a biatch.

My mother is blind and I grew up with her always having a seeing-eye dog on her left side. When I was in my early teens I remember being SOOOO embarrassed when my mom would lecture some 7-year-old who would come up and start petting the dog about how rude it was to touch someone's eyes.

/I was so disappointed when she decided against getting a seeing-eye horse.

Seeing-eye horse (new window)

on the plus side if you are blind and own a ferret you will know where every corner of your house is due to the tiny pile of shiat in each one.

never pet a service dog when they are on the clock, just simply say "hello"

I work in a store in a mall
anyway i see about 3-4 service dogs a month usually labs, miss mine T.T, and one... doodle golden or lab whatever.
they always have their vest on
sorry for multi posts i get excited with working dogs i think its bad ass.

Serivce Horse IS still ok??

Take a look at my service horse
My service horse is amazin'

MoreVespeneGas: on the plus side if you are blind and own a ferret you will know where every corner of your house is due to the tiny pile of shiat in each one.

As a former owner of ferrets, this is both amusing and true. Clever little beasties when they want something, but dumb as posts otherwise. :-\


ox45tallboy: libranoelrose: I actually have a blind parrot that is disably able \to fucik it.

You're as drunk as I am, aren't you?

I know that I feel drunk after reading that...

Here we go again.

My service dog is a Standard Poodle, weighs @ 50#, and goes everywhere with me. She is my seizure alerter. I trained her to work for me.

To qualify, we had to pass a battery of tests together. She had to have a Canine Good Citizenship from AKC (UKC has a similar program) before we could do the service test. Because she is a seizure dog, and seizures aren't something that can be predicted, I had to have a witness give me a letter saying he had seen her work. While doing the test I had a mild seizure, which naturally made that part easier. She did what she was supposed to do: warn me, and see to it that I sat down safely. Once I felt better we finished the test, which included things like grocery shopping, eating at a restaurant, dealing with crowds, handling bags of purchases, and greeting strangers who asked if they could meet her. It took three or four hours to take; she passed with a 93/100.

Tonight we went to a movie & dinner. No one knew she was there until we went to leave.

That's how they are supposed to behave.

/and Omirion
//Omirion the helper.... nevermind

What about these?

qarloclobrigny: I THINK ITS SUBBY THATS ASININE

Yell us how you really feel.

Khazar-Khum: Here we go again.

My service dog is a Standard Poodle, weighs @ 50#, and goes everywhere with me. She is my seizure alerter. I trained her to work for me.

To qualify, we had to pass a battery of tests together. She had to have a Canine Good Citizenship from AKC (UKC has a similar program) before we could do the service test. Because she is a seizure dog, and seizures aren't something that can be predicted, I had to have a witness give me a letter saying he had seen her work. While doing the test I had a mild seizure, which naturally made that part easier. She did what she was supposed to do: warn me, and see to it that I sat down safely. Once I felt better we finished the test, which included things like grocery shopping, eating at a restaurant, dealing with crowds, handling bags of purchases, and greeting strangers who asked if they could meet her. It took three or four hours to take; she passed with a 93/100.

Tonight we went to a movie & dinner. No one knew she was there until we went to leave.

That's how they are supposed to behave.

That's so cool.
give him/her a pet for me!

oh duh you said she... its early

Tentacle: SuperMeekrat: So much for service monkeys (new window)
Screw you, paralyzed guy.

No one wants to live on the Planet of the Apes.

I would have gone with this reference (pops), but that's just me.

L33t Squirrel: MoreVespeneGas: on the plus side if you are blind and own a ferret you will know where every corner of your house is due to the tiny pile of shiat in each one.

As a former owner of ferrets, this is both amusing and true. Clever little beasties when they want something, but dumb as posts otherwise. :-\


ox45tallboy: libranoelrose: I actually have a blind parrot that is disably able \to fucik it.

You're as drunk as I am, aren't you?

I know that I feel drunk after reading that...

As domestic ferrets have absolutely ZERO survival instinct, they are amazing to watch.

Although, if you get one that likes latex and rubber, you will also be amazed at how many thing in your house have one or the other or both. Usually when you discover the cache of them in the back corner of your bedroom closet.

/I love my carpet sharks

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ok you get the idea
also they should need to carry and produce papers that state what the dog does
so that if it barks an ambulance can be summoned at once
didn't someone else do that paper thing?
i have seem people hide small dogs to see what they could get away with
yes at wm. a dog can;t perform anything if it is stuck in a bag
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Begoggle: The government shouldn't be regulating such things.

Really? So you'd rather leave it up to business owners then? That would mean that they would also have the right to refuse service dogs.

Finally a way to shut up that crazy coont with her service rat she insisted on bringing into restaurants.

/A close friend trains seeing-eye dogs

You mean I can't bring in a bucket of my service sea-monkies anymore?