TheirThey'reNow: Tickets are just random toll for owning and driving a car.
KrispyKritter: Received a ticket for illegal parking while legally parked in my own driveway.
moothemagiccow: TheirThey'reNow: Tickets are just random toll for owning and driving a car.I've been driving for ten years and I've never received a ticket
NightOwl2255: FTA ...the court wrote, the fee system serves the purpose of discouraging "the filing of nonmeritorious appeals" by conserving scarce judicial resources.Anyone else read that as we don't want the peons actually availing themselves of the judicial system?
anarchy_x: welcome to capitalism, you get the justice you pay for.
abb3w: This guy had two tickets; he chose a hearing, and lost one that he was appealing. Ergo, court costs for it.
Weaver95: meh. just make sure that you make the court spend more than $320 bucks to prosecute you. hell, i'm not even a lawyer and even I can arrange that.
Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Yup. If I ever had to defend myself in a Massachusetts Court, I'd file requests for all sorts of things, like the officer's records, transcripts of zoning hearings for the parking area, and so forth. Win or lose, they would not come out ahead.
KrispyKritter: Received a ticket for illegal parking while legally parked in my own driveway. Went to Court to have it dismissed. Judge dismissed ticket. Then I had to pay 3/4 the cost of the Ticket for Cost of Court.they should just pass the hat once a year, it would save time.
alltandubh: Here in Canada I've only ever been stopped twice for speeding and managed to talk my way out of a fine both times -- does this mean that I don't live in a capitalist country?
sporkme: There is not much to biatch about here... he would not have been required to pay if he had won. If it is true that the costs are unusually high, this is not the way to fix that... and it *is* Massachusetts. No big surprise.The guys on Free Talk Live do this stuff for fun: get a parking ticket, refuse to pay and demand a jury trial, and if found guilty refuse to pay again and go to jail. The authorities never come out ahead monetarily with them, but then again they do wind up in jail a lot. We would have to be talking about a lot of money before I would go to jail.If only the "loser pays" system were extended to civil lawsuits...
TheR0CK: Seems many of you read the article but do not understand, he was challenging the FILING FEEs, not court costs. Filing fees had to be paid IN ADVANCE of his appeal. Not after he lost.So having high filing fees discourages or prohibits those with limited resources appealing any case they feel that was unjustly ruled against them. Possibly being denied full due process.
Pancoaifo: Further, the system as it is has essentially decreed the meter maid or cop a magistrate. Since you have to go to superior court to challenge the maid/cop who is not required to show.
adeist69: Fifteen dollars for a parking ticket? That's a farking bargain, he should have just paid it.
SomethingInYourTeeth: Like North Carolina speeding tickets, the fine for going 15 over is $15, the court costs are $130. They'll reduce the fine easily with no judge present but they still get their court cost.
anarchy_xwelcome to capitalism,
dookdookdook: Pancoaifo: Further, the system as it is has essentially decreed the meter maid or cop a magistrate. Since you have to go to superior court to challenge the maid/cop who is not required to show.That damned "innocent until proven guilty" stuff is such a drain on revenues.
alltandubh: anarchy_x: welcome to capitalism, you get the justice you pay for.As opposed to all those wonderful non- capitalist countries in the world where the authorities openly take bribes?Here in Canada I've only ever been stopped twice for speeding and managed to talk my way out of a fine both times -- does this mean that I don't live in a capitalist country?
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