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(Las Vegas Sun)   If you switch beds in a hospital, hilarity may ensue   (lasvegassun.com) divider line 75
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2003-09-03 06:32:30 AM
Aw, that's sad.
 
2003-09-03 06:33:02 AM
What is hilarious about this?

/deserves the sad/assasine tag.
 
2003-09-03 06:34:56 AM
they might (hopefully) check if you are a male and getting a breast enlargement operation, or reduction if you are flat like a male should be, unless they give you inverted breasts

BTW, i read the article, wrong blood types blah blah if you are going to say i didnt reading the article cause of the stuff i mentioned up at the top
 
2003-09-03 06:35:29 AM
The hilarity is always ensuing on Fark. Can anyone post a picture of Admiral Akbar and the little kitty-cat to complete the cliche?
 
2003-09-03 06:37:30 AM
Doesn't sound to me like hilarity ensued.
 
2003-09-03 06:39:03 AM
on fark, death and hilarity have become interchangable terms -


. . . I'm not saying it's wrong, after all this is the big-nutted squirrel site
 
2003-09-03 06:40:28 AM
stupidity ensued.
this is a darwin award.
 
2003-09-03 06:46:11 AM
Not a Darwin award, you have to remove yourself from the gene pool rather than a care assistant/nurse not doing their job properly...
 
2003-09-03 06:49:02 AM
that lady switched beds unbeknownst to the people working. she shouldn't have done that, charts are bed specific.
 
2003-09-03 06:49:36 AM
it should probably be deatharity may ensue

/obvious
 
2003-09-03 06:54:31 AM
noahs_fark

It is not the patient's responsibility to be aware of hospital regulations regarding the association of treatments with patients. It is the hopsital's responsibility to make sure that the treatments match the patients. You can't just assume the person in the bed is the person that needs the potentially life saving/threatening operation.
 
2003-09-03 06:54:38 AM
I work in a hospital and agree that this is Darwin material -- switching beds and not telling anybody is an extremely retarded thing to do.
 
2003-09-03 06:59:55 AM
Spoofman_v2.0

don't split hairs. that hospital was very noble and took full responsibility for her death, and the tech resigned. bottom line, yeah they are responsible. but that's just because of the way our society condones stupid people like this, a dumb kid swallows a barbie head, the toy can't be on the market anymore. a dumb patient switches beds recklessly, the hospital needs to institute a new rule that two techs must be present when taking blood samples.

its darwin.
 
2003-09-03 07:02:05 AM
After a very bad car accident, I woke up to find one of the nurses giving my friends "my" clothes. I'm 5'11" and 180lbs, and the nurse was handing them clothes that belonged to someone about 4'11" and maybe 200 lbs. Turns out these were the clothes of the guy who hit me . . . My clothes had been cut off and destroyed. These were also the nice health care professionals who tried to wrestle me out of bed in the middle of the night for an abdominal x-ray. While I had a broken back. And they didn't notice the fact that I was the wrong patient for the x-ray.
 
2003-09-03 07:06:21 AM
Edsel - no offense, by the way :)
 
2003-09-03 07:07:45 AM
Word to the wise guys- You can't afford to NOT pay attention if you are in hospital for any surgical reason. My husband was in for a shoulder surgery, did NOT play musical beds and found himself drugged and being prepped for knee surgery. Thank whatever underachieving God that got consigned to this world- he had his shiat together enough to start biatching and everything got sorted out. A very similar thing happened to my step mother this year. Be afraid- Be VERY afraid.
 
2003-09-03 07:09:52 AM
i'm just glad i live in the city with the best health care system in the country.
 
2003-09-03 07:10:35 AM
Rain Man meets Problem Child 2...sort of...
 
2003-09-03 07:13:12 AM
Spoofman - are you saying your life is not your responsibility? When you are in the hospital, you need to be on guard, as the other experiences already posted indicate. I'm amazed the hospital stepped up to the plate and took full responsibility for this idiot patient. Flights to Vegas are already overbooked with members of the Ambulance Chasing Lawyers League.
 
2003-09-03 07:15:06 AM
noahs_fark

Why not split hairs? The life of this lady rested on a fine line.

1.) The "nobility" of the hospital's actions after the fact has no relevance to their cause. I could claim that the woman was "noble" in sacraficing her coveted window bed to the woman going in for a risky blood transfusion.

2.) The new rule is because of the tech's lack of following proper procedure. Yes, indirectly because the woman switched beds, but you can keep taking it further and further until you become absurd, accusing a butterfly in Toyko for the death of this woman. In any event the fault of the tech is undeniable while the fault of the woman is debatable. Had she not switched beds, that tech would most likely have continued working in err until another person got hurt or killed.

If you want a true Darwin award, read this
 
2003-09-03 07:21:06 AM
Rodeodoc

When I go into a hospital, giving them my clothes, letting them hook me up to tubes and pumping substances into my body then, reluctantly, I am putting my life into their responsibility.
 
2003-09-03 07:22:02 AM
Fairfax Hospital story:

My wife was in labor. It was a very difficult labor, and she had been up all night going through painful contractions.

The nurses have a shift change. New nurse comes in, picks up my wife's chart, and says, "oh, you're supposed to get a sedative." The nurse reaches over to my wife's IV and punches a tranquilizer into the drip-line.

My wife passes out. The labor stops.

"Oh, wait," says the nurse - "that's not the right page." She pulls the paper out of the clipboard and walks off with it.

Meanwhile, my wife is out cold. I go out to the nurses's station and ask what happened to my wife.

"Don't worry - she'll be fine."

*Eight hours later* she's still asleep. Shift change again, and a new staff comes on. "Where is her chart?" asks the new nurse. I tell her the last shift took it. And that they gave her a sedative.

My wife woke up 10 hours after getting the sedative. She took another 6 hours before she was back in labor again. Our baby was okay, but nobody ever fessed up to knocking my wife out as medical malpractice. No paperwork means no trail to sue for malpractice.

Bottom line: be careful when relying on Fairfax Hospital personnel for your well-being.
 
2003-09-03 07:22:14 AM
What a shiatty way to go... I hate hospitals.
 
2003-09-03 07:22:39 AM
Spoofman_v2.0

That link is a beauty.

Oh well at least the idiot in the article was 26 so any blaming on Jackass the Movie is going to be met with replies of "He's old enough to know better, serves his dumb ass right." (pun somewhat intended)

The amount of damage isn't surprising either considering how well explosive shockwaves propagate through water and living tissue made mostly of water. Kinda reminds me how fake it is in movies when people are in the water during explosions. You're alot better off surrounded by air aside from flying debris or shrapnel than you are taking an explosive shockwave in the water.
 
2003-09-03 07:23:04 AM
I think we can all agree that switching beds was an AMAZINGLY bad call on this woman's part- but, my God, these people should be vigilant. They are performing life altering procedures on patients every single day. Why the hell shouldn't they take the time to be 100% sure that they have the right person? Jesus, half of us would get shiatcanned from our jobs for even 1/10 of this negligence.
 
2003-09-03 07:30:46 AM
I agree Soulcatcher. The move was definitally not beneficial, but I don't think it's in part due to some gross stupidity on the woman's part, but negligance on the hospital.
 
2003-09-03 07:31:36 AM
It worked out okay for Yossarian and Dunbar, though.
 
2003-09-03 07:32:59 AM
This is the reason we place name bands on patients. The tech was wrong. But on the bright side, lab techs are paid minimum wage and really don't have a license to lose. It would do no good for a personal lawsuit, he has no malpractice insurance. Since he didn't not follow, what I'll assume to be hospital proceedure, they are not at fault.

Lawyers sue for the malpractice insurance 90% of the time. Since I don't own anything major...ie car, house; I no longer carry malpractice insurance. Most attorneys will drop you off the suit if you don't have deep pockets to play in.

In other words, the family is BONED.

/ICU nurse
 
2003-09-03 07:33:19 AM
Spoofman_v2.0

you just stopped making sense of what you can and can't do logically. please save the hypothetical for another farker. that lady died cause she switched beds without notifying the staff.

that lady did die from the hospital worker not following procedure but in that same sense a moron that j walks and gets killed by a car is the responsibility of cops for not enforcing the law.

yes, when a company or organization provides a service or product they are responsible for what they do, within confines, you are splitting hairs if you think a blood tech is going to proactively affirm the identity of every patient by checking the tags and playing 20 questions, they have tons of other patients, and there is a clipboard in front of your bed not to mention your bed # is kept at the nursing station; no thing or person is fully responsible for the reckless inane actions of dumb people that cause tragedies. there is a line. this lady died cause she did something very stupid and reckless.
 
2003-09-03 07:41:17 AM
thats really sad, you'd think the attendant would ask before injecting anything - or at least check the sex of the injectee.
personally, i would have asked the hospital first, but its sad when anyone dies, right?

^^ the line actually is, both the lady and the attendant did somethng very stupid and reckless, however the attendant is paid partly to make sure this kind of thing doesnt happen - i wouldnt like to think of what other corners someone like that could cut in a hospital.
 
2003-09-03 07:43:14 AM
i just read noahs post, "you are splitting hairs"? someone died because "hairs" werent split, are you a lawyer?
 
2003-09-03 07:43:46 AM
Please dont abuse "hilarity ensue".
 
2003-09-03 07:44:30 AM
Blackstar in this country's healthcare system you get what you pay for. you want the best care and attendance available that so many fakrers feel is expected, it will cost you more, and more and more. thats the reality. i know it doesn't live up to the ideal.
 
2003-09-03 07:46:46 AM
Blackstar someone died cause they were dumb. she pulled a darwin.
 
2003-09-03 07:46:49 AM
i agree with that, 100%..

i can't understand why she didnt tell the attendant they had switched, surely it would be on your "to do" list?
women... ;)
 
2003-09-03 07:50:06 AM
isnt is a repost?
 
2003-09-03 07:53:07 AM
she was dumb in not telling them, he was dumb not to check - its his job, and he should be aware that he's working with the public who on occasion arent too bright..

if he only learns that by killing someone, he shouldnt be working there (not that he's a murderer imo, but still). maybe now the hospital knows the risks, it can introduce an easier system to check or make sure staff stick to the current system.

i can see that both parties were negligent, but we both know that being a bit dense (like she and the other switchee were) isnt asking to die - there must be a reason why she didnt tell the attendant before being injected - maybe stoned, or maybe asleep and on a drip feed.

i dont think it deserves a darwin until we know those things... but possibly, yeah.
 
2003-09-03 07:54:40 AM
This is a very similar incident to the much more publicized case of the doctor in Tampa who amputed the wrong leg of a patient, because the nurses had prepped the wrong one by mistake and it wasn't verified before the operation.
I'm proud to say this is the same doctor who had previously operated on me to repair a groin hernia, and I am glad to report that nothing went amiss there.
 
2003-09-03 07:55:24 AM
I DO NOT TRUST DOCTORS!!! I just got over a severe case of Lyme disease.First doctor says"Hmmm....looks like Lyme disease"..puts me on wrong med.Rash starts fading,feeling a little better.2 weeks of antibiotics down the hatch.2 days later,rash and itching are back with a vengence.2nd doctor agrees with first but says we'll give it a couple of days,could just be a reaction to exposure to sunlight. 3 days later,go to 3rd doctor. He takes one look and says"That's the worst case of Lyme disease I've ever seen."By now I have incredible pain in shoulder area near the bite.And can't keep any food or liquids down.He tells me the meds were wrong and puts me on high-test antibiotics for 2 more weeks. The same stuff people with anthrax get.Nasty,nasty stuff but effective.Been of the med now 2 weeks and feel fine.WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT CONTRACT LYME DISEASE.Goddamn sickest I've ever been in my life...
 
2003-09-03 07:56:10 AM
but either way, the attendant should be fired - simply because he didnt follow hospital procedure and someone died as a direct result (i doubt hospital procedure places any blame on the patient, they wouldnt like to imply that staff arent in 100% control all the time by doing so).

imagine the guilt, it must be catastrophic - he'll be lucky to get a job at a vet's after this.
 
2003-09-03 08:03:26 AM
Noahs_Fark-

My step mother was at the Cleveland Clinic for an experimental procedure that is a treatment for Bladder Cancer (Indiana Pouch). Cleveland jokes aside- these guys are the best in the world at this type of surgery and she was paying like 60K for the procedure. So how "rich" you are doen't seem to be a factor in hospital fark ups. I'm just saying "Head's Up".
 
2003-09-03 08:08:55 AM
Let's get one thing straight -- the poor bastard didn't "inject" anything, he just drew her blood to get her blood type.

Only it was the wrong blood type because it was the wrong person. So later, when the dumb lady got a transfusion, it wasn't her blood type, it was the blood type of her neighbor who was sitting in her bed.

Yes, he farked up because he should technically have asked each patient their name when drawing their blood. However, this is still Darwin material, as switching beds in the hospital and not even telling your damned nurse is incredibly stupid.

Actually, I take that back, it's not Darwin material because one of them lived!
 
2003-09-03 08:09:05 AM
Wow what a horrible thing.

First...my bona fides....I have worked in hospitals all of my adult life...the last 14 as a surgeon. EVERY SINGLE TIME that blood is given, the wristband MUST be checked. I have been in the OR during a major trauma case when time is of the essence ....still we check (and there is only one "bed"in the OR). The outcome of a bad transfusion reaction warrants the extra vigilance. I have seen patients switch beds more than a few times, and this is EXACTLY the reason we train people to check. Patients dont always switch for a "better view" by the way. When you are dealing with Alzheimer's patients, they will get into any bed...sometimes even in another room altogether. Another point - usually the procedure is that TWO people check the blood unit and the wristband prior to hanging the bag - and those people then sign the tag, and the form in the chart. Not only the name, but the birthday (there have been identical name problems), and the chart number are supposed to be checked. The fact that this happened means that MULTIPLE checks were ignored or performed negligently. No, she should not have switched beds, but it is hardly a mistake she should have paid for with her life.
 
2003-09-03 08:14:17 AM
i know $60,000 looks expensive but thats not "rich" nor the best care available. rich would be an upper class person that pays for reputed doctors to be on 24/7 call to dote on them. thats rich and its been a trend in recent years. rich is more than just a price tag, rich is affluence and power and the ability to afford the best care beyond a pricetag. though what your mother-in-law got was exceptional compared to what other people get who can't afford the "60,000" cause they don't have the coverage.

but yes you always need to be on guard with healthcare no matter how much you pay.
 
2003-09-03 08:24:51 AM
Hate to rain on the collective parade of those blaming the patient, but in most real hospitals your bracelet is checked three times before you reach the OR. The anesthesiologist, who's the first person to treat you in the OR, will usually check your bracelet as well. In these days of million dollar liability premiums, a competent surgeon will also check no matter how minor the procedure.

Mistakes do happen. A xrappy hospital will lose its certification. I have a feeling this is just a slow news day.
 
2003-09-03 08:24:58 AM
Scalpel817 i'm guessing you work in one of the 'hospital systems' in the boston healthcare system which is one the best in the country. very professional, very good heatlhcare system in boston. sadly, depending on where you live, your healthcare provider, and your coverage; that same level of professionalism is not comphrensive to national heatlhcare. not every healthcare system in country has the fundage nor receives the excellent staff that the boston one does.
 
2003-09-03 08:25:06 AM
I have a sad story to tell that is related to this. I was in the hospital once to have the toe jam removed from my feet. Mistakes were made. When I woke up I was a D cup. Made my wife jealous.
 
2003-09-03 08:26:29 AM
...same goes for the nyc staev
 
2003-09-03 08:29:30 AM
And once again....hilarity ensues at the expense of others. Actually it is not that funny for either party so did hilarity actually ensue? If hilarity ensues and no one is there to laugh, is it really hilarious?
 
2003-09-03 08:32:25 AM
I was in the hospital last month for surgery. Before EVERY dose of medicine and before EVERY needle stick - the tech/nurse ALWAYS checked my arm band.... It is their job.

The lady was stupid for switching beds, but the tech did not follow procedure.
 
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