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(Washington Post)   Curiouser and curiouser: PM Gordon Brown allegedly hacked by NOTW   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 80
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2011-07-11 03:02:57 PM
He done goof'd.
 
2011-07-11 03:03:31 PM
[popcorn.gif]

I really hope Rupert Murdoch is not able to squeeze out of this cleanly.
 
2011-07-11 03:04:13 PM
It's not really curious. Murdoch's media empire is mad with power.

And now, they're facing a $100 mln criminal probe in America. That's the cost of the probe, which they will have to foot. The fines and penalties could total a billion dollars on top of that, as well as raising the specter of criminal prosecutions for senior NewsCorp corporate officers.

It's going to be interesting to watch how the traditionally united right in America will react to this - will another agency rise up, sensing blood in the water?
 
2011-07-11 03:04:18 PM
FTA:Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. shut down News of the World on Sunday. Its final edition sold out of 4.5 million copies. The crossword puzzle included hidden messages to former editor Rebekah Brooks.

It's almost like he fired everyone to make them a scapegoat and to make it harder for others to investigate.
 
2011-07-11 03:05:32 PM

Dinobot: [popcorn.gif]

I really hope Rupert Murdoch is not able to squeeze out of this cleanly.


I am nervous that he is so powerful he will. Just fire more scapegoats---I mean employees until it blows over.
 
2011-07-11 03:05:58 PM
i9.tinypic.com

This is going to be good.
 
2011-07-11 03:06:18 PM

Dinobot: [popcorn.gif]

I really hope Rupert Murdoch is not able to squeeze out of this cleanly.


I wonder what MI5 has to say about this.
 
2011-07-11 03:06:24 PM
This just in: News of the World also hacked a pre-school, Santa's "naughty or nice" list, and the guy who discovered how to deep fry butter.
 
2011-07-11 03:07:51 PM
More interesting is that Gordon Brown was allegedly "blagged" not by the NoTW but by the Sunday Times (new window) (also in the Murdoch stable). Many said that this was bigger than just the NoTW...
 
2011-07-11 03:08:35 PM

Bennie Crabtree: Dinobot: [popcorn.gif]

I really hope Rupert Murdoch is not able to squeeze out of this cleanly.

I wonder what MI5 has to say about this.


The thought that they might face some sort of organized investigation probably never crossed their minds. Murdoch's media empire power in England makes his stuff in America look like an amateur-hour production.
 
2011-07-11 03:09:11 PM
you're a nobody unless NOTW hacked your phone
 
2011-07-11 03:11:05 PM
Next we'll hear that Casey Anthony had her phone hacked by NOTW.
 
2011-07-11 03:12:03 PM
Is it a law in the U.K. that your phone has to come with a backdoor so news groups can easily hack it? Is there anyone above B-list celebrity status over there that HASN'T had their phone tampered with at this point?

Definitely going to be more careful about what I put on my own phone at this point.
 
2011-07-11 03:12:42 PM
So friggin' what? England let Sir Roger Hollis rise to the top of British intelligence, I don't really have any hope in them actually discovering anything and making anybody serve real jail time. Poofters, the lot of them.
 
2011-07-11 03:15:58 PM
No Derp?


/How shall I survive?
 
2011-07-11 03:17:37 PM

DangerousDaze: blagged


Wait, that's a real word?
 
2011-07-11 03:18:27 PM
Rupert Murdoch is a parasite. Every single one of his "news" organizations should be thoroughly investigated for any illegal activity, which I'm certain, there is a LOT to find.
 
2011-07-11 03:20:35 PM
DemDave: "Is it a law in the U.K. that your phone has to come with a backdoor so news groups can easily hack it?"

Most people have weak-to-nonexistent passwords.
We're only hearing about phones right now, but who honestly thinks they didn't take a crack at email accounts too?
 
2011-07-11 03:21:06 PM

PanicMan: DangerousDaze: blagged

Wait, that's a real word?


Robbed. For being the home of the English language the UK doesn't seem to speak it.

/not obscure
 
2011-07-11 03:21:42 PM
I wonder if hacking the PM's VM is treason?
 
2011-07-11 03:21:50 PM

PanicMan: DangerousDaze: blagged

Wait, that's a real word?


Sure. It's been a slang word over here for a decades but it looks to have been re-purposed here.
 
2011-07-11 03:23:28 PM
The interesting part here is that it's not NoTW. It's other Murdoch papers.
 
2011-07-11 03:23:52 PM
Name of the Wind? I knew that book was good, but daaaaaang....


/I know, I know 0/10
//Pat Rothfuss, ftw.
 
2011-07-11 03:25:04 PM

inglixthemad: PanicMan: DangerousDaze: blagged

Wait, that's a real word?

Robbed. For being the home of the English language the UK doesn't seem to speak it.

/not obscure


Is it just data though? Is it social engineering or hacking or both? Or neither?? Crazy Brits.

/Definitely not obscure. But well played.
 
2011-07-11 03:26:09 PM
So, they used a weak pin on their passwords and they call this "hacking"? It's more like ease dropping on someone who talks real loud...

Also, what idiot is leaving important or confidential information on voice mails?
 
2011-07-11 03:26:40 PM

tlars699: Name of the Wind? I knew that book was good, but daaaaaang....


/I know, I know 0/10
//Pat Rothfuss, ftw.


As I dedcided to re-read it yesterday, I lol'd
 
2011-07-11 03:28:41 PM

bglove25: As I dedcided to re-read it yesterday, I lol'd


Yay!

That up's my troll score to 1+/10
/1 for someone lulzing
//+ for good book reference.
 
2011-07-11 03:29:43 PM

dognose4: It's more like ease dropping on someone who talks real loud...


*twitch*
 
2011-07-11 03:31:10 PM

dionysusaur: I wonder if hacking the PM's VM is treason?


Spying, Treason, Terrorism, Invasion of privacy, all apply.
 
2011-07-11 03:33:20 PM

Copper Spork: The interesting part here is that it's not NoTW. It's other Murdoch papers.


They were all at it.

http://www.newstatesman.com/newspapers/2011/04/phone-yeah-cameron-murdoch (new window)

[Hugh Grant] But would they [the Mail] buy a phone-hacked story?
[ex-NoW journo, now freelance] Him For about four or five years they've absolutely been cleaner than clean. And before that they weren't. They were as dirty as anyone . . . They had the most money.
 
2011-07-11 03:35:04 PM

csnake24: Rupert Murdoch is a parasite. Every single one of his "news" organizations should be thoroughly investigated for any illegal activity, which I'm certain, there is a LOT to find.


Yeah, but nothing will happen. Once you accrue a certain amount of wealth, normal law doesn't apply. Worst case scenario for him: He'll give whip up some big ol' tears, testify before congress on nation TV, where he plays the victim card somehow. After being found guilty, he'll be sentenced to time served while under house arrest. At this point, the government will lightly slap him on each wrist, before admonishing him never to do it again.
 
2011-07-11 03:35:27 PM

dognose4: So, they used a weak pin on their passwords and they call this "hacking"? It's more like ease dropping on someone who talks real loud...

Also, what idiot is leaving important or confidential information on voice mails?


A weak pin doesn't make illegal activity legal, whatever you want to call it.
 
2011-07-11 03:36:19 PM
For a moment there, I thought some Jesus group had hacked Gordon Brown.
 
2011-07-11 03:38:25 PM

Cpl.D: csnake24: Rupert Murdoch is a parasite. Every single one of his "news" organizations should be thoroughly investigated for any illegal activity, which I'm certain, there is a LOT to find.

Yeah, but nothing will happen. Once you accrue a certain amount of wealth, normal law doesn't apply. Worst case scenario for him: He'll give whip up some big ol' tears, testify before congress on nation TV, where he plays the victim card somehow. After being found guilty, he'll be sentenced to time served while under house arrest. At this point, the government will lightly slap him on each wrist, before admonishing him never to do it again.


But in the UK where he has the most overt political influence that's all falling down around him. Cameron who was chummy with him (like all PMs back to Thatcher) in order to maintain his image in the Murdoch press now wouldn't touch him with a bargepole. Whatever happens criminally, he's lost a lot of power. Poltiicans in the UK have relied on him for good press; they'd cross him at their peril. That no longer applies.
 
2011-07-11 03:44:12 PM

Bored Horde: And now, they're facing a $100 mln criminal probe in America. That's the cost of the probe, which they will have to foot. The fines and penalties could total a billion dollars on top of that


The problem is Murdoch could pay both out of his personal wealth; he's above the law. All the noise being made is just a dog and pony show to sell viewers to advertisers. In six months no one will remember any of this.
 
2011-07-11 03:47:14 PM
NOTW allegedly hacked 9/11 victims' voicemails too: http://www.smh.com.au/world/911-victims-targeted-by-tabloid-phone-hackers-201107 11-1ha90.html

That could be the leap for this scandal to break in the US, where it's stayed under the radar in the mainstream consciousness so far.

Astounding. Every day, something crazier...
 
2011-07-11 03:50:43 PM
You run an evil empire for long enough eventually it's going to catch up with you. Nobody is too powerful to be brought down by their own corruption. Greedy grasping people make mistakes just like everybody else. Essentially his empire has gotten too large for him to control. It happened to Lew Wasserman who had a similar (for the time) grip on the media and politics. At a certain point the wind turns and all the people who kissed your ass and covered for you no longer deem it worth their time. This is the beginning of the end for Murdoch.
 
Ehh
2011-07-11 03:57:40 PM
May this snowball keep rolling, may Murdoch feel the pain...please.

/also all the top dogs who thought it was funny to make the little guy dress up as Harry Potter
 
2011-07-11 03:58:04 PM
Well done The Guardian for driving a stake through Murdoch's black heart. If I were Alan Rushbridger I'd be checking under my car every morning from now on.
 
2011-07-11 03:59:47 PM

dognose4: So, they used a weak pin on their passwords and they call this "hacking"? It's more like ease dropping on someone who talks real loud...

Also, what idiot is leaving important or confidential information on voice mails?

 
2011-07-11 04:00:04 PM
NOTW? Isn't that some kind of Jesus clothing company?
 
2011-07-11 04:00:31 PM
Funny; I always hear about how badass and ruthless Britain's SAS are supposed to be; how is it that someone can cyberattack the PM with impunity and not have been fed into a woodchipper by now?
 
2011-07-11 04:01:25 PM

dognose4: So, they used a weak pin on their passwords and they call this "hacking"? It's more like ease dropping on someone who talks real loud...

Also, what idiot is leaving important or confidential information on voice mails?


I'm sorry to hear about your extra chromosome
 
2011-07-11 04:02:54 PM
I bet this turns out like the Abu Ghraib torture scandal - a few low-ranking vermin will be hung out to dry while the people who sanctioned the whole thing get away with it.

Murdoch is staking everything on defending Rebekah Brooks because if she goes then the next person in the firing line is his son, James.
 
2011-07-11 04:03:55 PM
 
2011-07-11 04:09:52 PM
RTFA, subby. This is now a much bigger story. Instead of just NOTW going rogue, it turns out Murdoch's Sun and Sunday Times were also hacking people. Murdoch can't blame this on just the editors of NOTW. I bet this was occuring throughout his entire British operation, if not his whole operation. I see a lot of people going to jail for this.
 
2011-07-11 04:10:32 PM
For the last time, you stupid dirty liberals: Rupert Murdoch has a fiduciary responsibility to his shareholders. He exists to make money. Who cares if he hacked into the voicemail accounts of dead people? They are dead. And because they are dead, investors come first. Stupid ninny liberal garbage libs Obama tax hikes liberal nanny state Palin 2012 tax garbage liberal ninny hikes Obama.
 
2011-07-11 04:19:11 PM
Subpoena power is gonna be a really biatch. I hope they start snooping at Fox and find some nasty shiat. Cause you know its there.
 
2011-07-11 04:19:31 PM

Cpl.D: csnake24: Rupert Murdoch is a parasite. Every single one of his "news" organizations should be thoroughly investigated for any illegal activity, which I'm certain, there is a LOT to find.

Yeah, but nothing will happen. Once you accrue a certain amount of wealth, normal law doesn't apply. Worst case scenario for him: He'll give whip up some big ol' tears, testify before congress on nation TV, where he plays the victim card somehow. After being found guilty, he'll be sentenced to time served while under house arrest. At this point, the government will lightly slap him on each wrist, before admonishing him never to do it again.



that's true
bernie madoff, martha stewart, snipes, lay, ...
none of those people were rich or powerful enough to stay our of prison.

oh wait
 
2011-07-11 04:19:57 PM
Mr. Toadcheese: Funny; I always hear about how badass and ruthless Britain's SAS are supposed to be; how is it that someone can cyberattack the PM with impunity and not have been fed into a woodchipper by now?

Yeah but they aren't supposed to be the ruler's personal henchmen - they're supposed to be henchmen to us all!
 
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