Huh, I wonder if I could get away with a thesis like that..

/no

So how does something like that not run afoul of copyright infringement?

Did they have permission? Or is it considered parody, even though that one Dr Seuss thing a few years was not?

I wrote "Two Gentlemen of Lebowski", so I guess I can answer the question from manimal2878 above. (I assume your question is about my thing, and not the scholarly articles discussed in the original article.)

The project actually _did_ "run afoul of copyright infringement", to perhaps no little surprise. Parody is a gray area and I had no interest letting a judge, a court decide my fate for me.

I prefer not to go into details about the legal situation but suffice to say we worked everything out to get the book published.


Oh, and NutWrench, I appreciate your supporting a first-time author!

Icon-Cat: I wrote "Two Gentlemen of Lebowski", so I guess I can answer the question from manimal2878 above. (I assume your question is about my thing, and not the scholarly articles discussed in the original article.)

The project actually _did_ "run afoul of copyright infringement", to perhaps no little surprise. Parody is a gray area and I had no interest letting a judge, a court decide my fate for me.

I prefer not to go into details about the legal situation but suffice to say we worked everything out to get the book published.


Oh, and NutWrench, I appreciate your supporting a first-time author!

Saw this comment elsewhere -- Why not call it "The Two Gentlemen of Pomona"?

that's just like your opinion, man.

Explaining a joke always kills it.

See..that's what happens when you find a stranger in the Arts.

/got nothin'

Is this YOUR scholarly article, Larry?

Say what you want about the tenets of scholarly writing, at least it's an ethos.

After countless rewatches, I believe that the scene where The Dude and Walter are delivering the money early in the film is my favorite.

"When we make the handoff, I double back, grab one of 'em and beat it out of him!"

/lulz

It's crap like this that makes me despise that film. When it came out, I liked it. But meeting people that treat it like a mystical message, or the cultists that want to quote the thing to you, then discuss the scenes is actually more annoying than jehovah's witnesses or anything I can imagine at the moment. I can't actually enjoy the movie because everytime I see a little bit of it, I'm reminded of meeting people that tried to shoehorn a Lebowski discussion into the conversation as soon as they could. It's a movie. Get over it.

ChemicalRummy
It's crap like this that makes me despise that film. When it came out, I liked it. But meeting people that treat it like a mystical message, or the cultists that want to quote the thing to you, then discuss the scenes is actually more annoying than jehovah's witnesses or anything I can imagine at the moment. I can't actually enjoy the movie because everytime I see a little bit of it, I'm reminded of meeting people that tried to shoehorn a Lebowski discussion into the conversation as soon as they could. It's a movie. Get over it.

Shut the f*ck up, Donny

ChemicalRummy: It's crap like this that makes me despise that film. When it came out, I liked it. But meeting people that treat it like a mystical message, or the cultists that want to quote the thing to you,

I feel the same way about Monty Python, Star Wars and The Wire. I enjoyed all of them thoroughly, including several re-watches. But it's not f*cking gospel. Especially with the nerds I typically hang out with, there's always that one dude who can't seem to make normal conversation, and has to include a Monty Python quote is every. f*cking. sentence.

Oh and I said this before about the scholarly article on Twilight or some other piece of pop-culture nonsense:

This is what gives academia its deservedly bad name. Shame on you.

My friend said she once heard a theory that Donny is actually dead in the film, because if you notice the Dude only talks to him once or twice. The rest of the time he just seems to ignore him, whereas Walter is constantly berating him. The theory was that Donny died in Nam and was a ghost that Walter couldn't shake, his conscience if you will. Do a couple of bong rips then think about it, it will make more sense after that.

/Love the movie but do not over analyze it, it's just a great story.

Onkel Buck: My friend said she once heard a theory that Donny is actually dead in the film, because if you notice the Dude only talks to him once or twice. The rest of the time he just seems to ignore him, whereas Walter is constantly berating him. The theory was that Donny died in Nam and was a ghost that Walter couldn't shake, his conscience if you will. Do a couple of bong rips then think about it, it will make more sense after that.

/Love the movie but do not over analyze it, it's just a great story.

No, the Coens did that because Buscemi talked a mile a minute in "Fargo".

Onkel Buck: My friend said she once heard a theory that Donny is actually dead in the film, because if you notice the Dude only talks to him once or twice. The rest of the time he just seems to ignore him, whereas Walter is constantly berating him. The theory was that Donny died in Nam and was a ghost that Walter couldn't shake, his conscience if you will. Do a couple of bong rips then think about it, it will make more sense after that.

/Love the movie but do not over analyze it, it's just a great story.

Wait, there's a story? I thought it was a movie about funny characters in funny situations with hilarious dialogue.

BreezyWheeze: ChemicalRummy: It's crap like this that makes me despise that film. When it came out, I liked it. But meeting people that treat it like a mystical message, or the cultists that want to quote the thing to you,

I feel the same way about Monty Python, Star Wars and The Wire. I enjoyed all of them thoroughly, including several re-watches. But it's not f*cking gospel. Especially with the nerds I typically hang out with, there's always that one dude who can't seem to make normal conversation, and has to include a Monty Python quote is every. f*cking. sentence.

Oh and I said this before about the scholarly article on Twilight or some other piece of pop-culture nonsense:

This is what gives academia its deservedly bad name. Shame on you.

Wow. Scholarly paper on Twilight? If I had a daughter at University, and found out she was studying or writing about that movie while I'm paying her tuition, it would be a totally justified honor killing.

ChemicalRummy: Wow. Scholarly paper on Twilight? If I had a daughter at University, and found out she was studying or writing about that movie while I'm paying her tuition, it would be a totally justified honor killing.

Meh. Not surprising or new. Any pop culture phenomenon can get the scholarly treatment regardless of its quality. You just have to focus on the social significance. College students have been doing this for years. Hell, there are whole volumes of research examining the nature of feminism in "Buffy the Vampire Slayer".

fusillade762: ChemicalRummy: Wow. Scholarly paper on Twilight? If I had a daughter at University, and found out she was studying or writing about that movie while I'm paying her tuition, it would be a totally justified honor killing.

Meh. Not surprising or new. Any pop culture phenomenon can get the scholarly treatment regardless of its quality. You just have to focus on the social significance. College students have been doing this for years. Hell, there are whole volumes of research examining the nature of feminism in "Buffy the Vampire Slayer".

"A Bridge Too Far". Caine and Hackman in the same movie. This is my thesis man! This is my closing argument! I CAN STOP WATCHING TV!

and shiat like this wrecks a good movie, when you farking fantards beat it to death.
IT'S JUST A GODDAMNED MOVIE

Lotta Nihilists in this thread.

"From the disjointed opening scenes through its anticlimactic denouement, the film pushes viewers to be aware of the constructed nature of society,"

He shaw talks purty.

I don't really care about any of this, I'm a nihilist.

I'll just leave this (new window) here.

The Big Lebowski has the most hilarious for-television censoring ever. The scene where walter is trashing the car, on basic cable, he's screaming at the top of his lungs "This is what happens when you find a stranger in the alps!"

My second favorite however has to be kill bill, and the _____ wagon, and buck, who's here to _____. On basic cable they change both to "Party" however there's still a very noticeable fffff sound before the buck lines. "I"m buck, and i'm here to fffffffparty."

Der Poopflinger: and shiat like this wrecks a good movie, when you farking fantards beat it to death.
IT'S JUST A GODDAMNED MOVIE

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

That's funny; I've been comprehensively studying VLADIMIR ILYICH ULYANOV lately.

WittyReference: I don't really care about any of this, I'm a nihilist.

That must be exhausting.

And they say a college education is not worth the cost.

Meanwhile in China, Japan, Brazil and India

fusillade762: ChemicalRummy: Wow. Scholarly paper on Twilight? If I had a daughter at University, and found out she was studying or writing about that movie while I'm paying her tuition, it would be a totally justified honor killing.

Meh. Not surprising or new. Any pop culture phenomenon can get the scholarly treatment regardless of its quality. You just have to focus on the social significance. College students have been doing this for years. Hell, there are whole volumes of research examining the nature of feminism in "Buffy the Vampire Slayer".

Actually, I think discussing whatever the themes required for the paper in the context of pop culture means the student at least applied some thought and understanding. (personally, I get a kick out of Chicken Soup for the Undead Soul)

Now I wouldn't consider. Icon-Cat's Two Gentlemen of Lebowski an academic paper but it's still pretty entertaining in its own right. Requires more background in Shakespeare and creativity than the average shmuck.

I forced myself to watch it a couple of months ago, as the first few times I tried to watch it, I couldn't get pass the first 1/2 hour before I couldn't care anymore.

And now that I have watched it in it's entirety, I simply have to say that it was an incredibly lame movie and I simply can't understand why so many here on Fark appear to fap to it's very mention.

Yeah, well you know, that's just, like, your OPINION, Man.

ChemicalRummy: Wow. Scholarly paper on Twilight? If I had a daughter at University, and found out she was studying or writing about that movie while I'm paying her tuition, it would be a totally justified honor killing.

Funny story. My brother signed up for an English comp 2 class this summer and the teacher said their main focus would be Twilight, book and movie, as well as a handful of other vampire short stories. I can't even force him to go to class, though I haven't resorted to beatings yet. He just gave up from the start because he was overwhelmed by the sheer idiocy of having a college class based on some dumbass vampire book written for an early teen audience. I told him to drop it or transfer to another section, but he's lazy and farked around until two days after that was an option. How the hell are people allowed to teach college courses based on that bullshiat? The teacher could have at least made the course a study in vampire mythology in general, not just that silly crap. That's just lazy.

/NSCSB

WittyReference: I don't really care about any of this, I'm a nihilist.

I find it hard to believe in you.

imfallen_angel: I forced myself to watch it a couple of months ago, as the first few times I tried to watch it, I couldn't get pass the first 1/2 hour before I couldn't care anymore.

And now that I have watched it in it's entirety, I simply have to say that it was an incredibly lame movie and I simply can't understand why so many here on Fark appear to fap to it's very mention.

Obviously you're not a golfer.

BadJazz: imfallen_angel: I forced myself to watch it a couple of months ago, as the first few times I tried to watch it, I couldn't get pass the first 1/2 hour before I couldn't care anymore.

And now that I have watched it in it's entirety, I simply have to say that it was an incredibly lame movie and I simply can't understand why so many here on Fark appear to fap to it's very mention.

Obviously you're not a golfer.

No I'm not...

But seriously... if someone could explain the fascination, I'd be interested.

Onkel Buck: My friend said she once heard a theory that Donny is actually dead in the film, because if you notice the Dude only talks to him once or twice. The rest of the time he just seems to ignore him, whereas Walter is constantly berating him. The theory was that Donny died in Nam and was a ghost that Walter couldn't shake, his conscience if you will. Do a couple of bong rips then think about it, it will make more sense after that.

/Love the movie but do not over analyze it, it's just a great story.

That would explain why they appear to have a 3 man bowling team, while the others seem to be 2 man.

imfallen_angel: BadJazz: imfallen_angel: I forced myself to watch it a couple of months ago, as the first few times I tried to watch it, I couldn't get pass the first 1/2 hour before I couldn't care anymore.

And now that I have watched it in it's entirety, I simply have to say that it was an incredibly lame movie and I simply can't understand why so many here on Fark appear to fap to it's very mention.

Obviously you're not a golfer.

No I'm not...

But seriously... if someone could explain the fascination, I'd be interested.

Because some- times there's a man--I won't say a hee-ro, 'cause what's a hee-ro?--but sometimes there's a man. And I'm talkin' about the Dude here-- sometimes there's a man who, wal, he's the man for his time'n place, he fits right in there--and that's the Dude.

I can get you a thesis by 3 o'clock, with citations. Bunch of amateurs.

g-booby: I can get you a thesis by 3 o'clock, with citations. Bunch of amateurs.

Forget about the farking thesis!

/slams fist

Because some- times there's a man--I won't say a hee-ro, 'cause what's a hee-ro?--but sometimes there's a man. And I'm talkin' about Adolf here-- sometimes there's a man who, wal, he's the man for his time'n place, he fits right in there--and that'shiatler.


Vote for this, you macarena-dancing tush ferrets.

Cat Food Sandwiches: Onkel Buck: My friend said she once heard a theory that Donny is actually dead in the film, because if you notice the Dude only talks to him once or twice. The rest of the time he just seems to ignore him, whereas Walter is constantly berating him. The theory was that Donny died in Nam and was a ghost that Walter couldn't shake, his conscience if you will. Do a couple of bong rips then think about it, it will make more sense after that.

/Love the movie but do not over analyze it, it's just a great story.

That would explain why they appear to have a 3 man bowling team, while the others seem to be 2 man.

That would make no sense, since the Dude sees him on the ground at the end and is concerned that he has been shot. Plus the whole scattering the ashes thing would be all wrong.