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2011-07-08 12:52:16 PM

The Thnikkaman: palelizard: I'm confused. You mean people who have problems distinguishing fantasy from reality may not be mentally healthy?

Sounds like a successful deception roll from a level 35 goblin diplomat wearing the earring of venomous speech.


I only have two ranks in Sense Motive. ;_(

/next level I'll put some points in
 
2011-07-08 12:53:06 PM

Ringshadow: My romance novel comes out in early August so I'm getting a kick out of this.

/yes, protection gets used
//Any fark lesbians out there willing to give me opinions on what you'd want out of a F/F romance novel?


Cool! It it a graphic novel with the little guy from Nukes For Dummies? Because that would be sweet.

Srsly, congrats. Please link info when it's out.

/straight
//would like to read anyway

Be sure to get copies in this bookstore (new window) asap. It's unfortunate the summer will be half over, but at least you'd catch the August crowd. They're big on LGBT fic, and do a great job promoting it. Plus, it's Provincetown, so the market's there.
 
2011-07-08 12:55:08 PM

Oh_Enough_Already: The fundamental difference between men and women is this:

When men see a movie like, for instance, Die Hard or Irn Man, etc, they realize that these are works of fiction, intended as entertainment, and that their lives will never even remotely resemble those of the films' characters.

On the other hand, when women watch "rom-coms" and/or read romance novels they actually believe that their lives are supposed to be like that and they become depressed/despondent/angry/fat when they're not, said anger most often directed at the men in their lives (if they have them.)

It's called "make believe" for a reason, sweetheart.


So you admit that you men will never be capable of pleasing us sexually?

;)
 
2011-07-08 01:13:49 PM

namegoeshere: Cool! It it a graphic novel with the little guy from Nukes For Dummies? Because that would be sweet.


I'm trying to envision a porn novel in that style and I can't stop giggling, so thanks for that.

Srsly, congrats. Please link info when it's out.

/straight
//would like to read anyway

Be sure to get copies in this bookstore (new window) asap. It's unfortunate the summer will be half over, but at least you'd catch the August crowd. They're big on LGBT fic, and do a great job promoting it. Plus, it's Provincetown, so the market's there.


Aw, thank you!

The one coming out is M/M romance, and just to further the unusual, it's furry. Believe it or not, it's been picked up by a normal romance publisher. It's called Rainbow in the Dark and the tentative release date is August 13 with Silver Publishing (new window). It's long enough it'll be available in paper and ebook format.

I can post the cover art if you're really curious.

Thanks for the bookstore link too but I think my publisher handles promotion? I dunno.
 
2011-07-08 01:15:13 PM

namegoeshere: Oh_Enough_Already: The fundamental difference between men and women is this:

When men see a movie like, for instance, Die Hard or Irn Man, etc, they realize that these are works of fiction, intended as entertainment, and that their lives will never even remotely resemble those of the films' characters.

On the other hand, when women watch "rom-coms" and/or read romance novels they actually believe that their lives are supposed to be like that and they become depressed/despondent/angry/fat when they're not, said anger most often directed at the men in their lives (if they have them.)

It's called "make believe" for a reason, sweetheart.

So you admit that you men will never be capable of pleasing us sexually?

;)


THE FEMALE ORGASM IS A MYTH!

Science has proven it is impossible to make a woman happy. Science.
 
2011-07-08 01:19:14 PM

palelizard: THE FEMALE ORGASM IS A MYTH!

Science has proven it is impossible to make a woman happy. Science.


To be fair there is a significant percentage of women who will never be able to orgasm.

/not that I'm admitting anything
 
2011-07-08 01:20:55 PM

Ringshadow: The one coming out is M/M romance, and just to further the unusual, it's furry.


i.imgur.com

/Rule 34, of course...
 
2011-07-08 01:28:43 PM

Ringshadow: The one coming out is M/M romance, and just to further the unusual, it's furry. Believe it or not, it's been picked up by a normal romance publisher.


This made me laugh so much.

You're weird but awesome. :)
 
2011-07-08 01:29:15 PM

Ringshadow:

The one coming out is M/M romance, and just to further the unusual, it's furry. Believe it or not, it's been picked up by a normal romance publisher. It's called Rainbow in the Dark and the tentative release date is August 13 with Silver Publishing (new window). It's long enough it'll be available in paper and ebook format.

I can post the cover art if you're really curious.



"Furries" was the first piece of my innocence shattered by Fark. I had no idea...

Yeah, I think I want to see the cover art, tks.
 
2011-07-08 01:30:44 PM
mutantreviewers.files.wordpress.com
 
2011-07-08 01:32:07 PM
I've always found it easy to give women big 'squirty' orgasms. I've also found it does not score you many points. You are better off being tall, a jackass or a bully, and never give them one. Sex is not high on the female agenda (in case you live in a cave).
 
2011-07-08 01:37:02 PM
Why? Because I can and it amuses me. I like to think it's not overbearing and the story is good regardless of what the characters happen to be. FWIW, not every book I write is going to be furry. It's just my first one published happens to be I guess.

i54.tinypic.com
 
2011-07-08 01:37:38 PM

namegoeshere: Ringshadow:

The one coming out is M/M romance, and just to further the unusual, it's furry. Believe it or not, it's been picked up by a normal romance publisher. It's called Rainbow in the Dark and the tentative release date is August 13 with Silver Publishing (new window). It's long enough it'll be available in paper and ebook format.

I can post the cover art if you're really curious.



"Furries" was the first piece of my innocence shattered by Fark. I had no idea...

Yeah, I think I want to see the cover art, tks.


I met a hot redhead at Westercon last weekend with fox ears, a tail, high heels, and a naughty schoolgirl uniform, so I'm really getting a kick out of these comments.
 
2011-07-08 01:39:20 PM

Ringshadow: Why? Because I can and it amuses me. I like to think it's not overbearing and the story is good regardless of what the characters happen to be. FWIW, not every book I write is going to be furry. It's just my first one published happens to be I guess.

[i54.tinypic.com image 400x600]


Heyyy... That's not a bad cover at all! Congrats, on the publication and not getting a cover that would put random reader A (me) off. :)
 
2011-07-08 01:43:37 PM

kxs401: BurnShrike: "Sometimes the kindest and wisest thing we can do for our clients is to encourage them to put down the books stop surfing Fark - and pick up reality."

Wait, does Fark encourage women to have unsafe sex with bare-chested trolls in Irish basements?

No, but it does encourage thoroughly average-looking women to think they're super-hot.


umm - this is a skill that is required of ALL men (at least those that want some action)

just try to get some action by telling a woman that she is average looking (might as well stay in your basement)

//happy Friday!
 
2011-07-08 01:48:50 PM

Ringshadow: Why? Because I can and it amuses me. I like to think it's not overbearing and the story is good regardless of what the characters happen to be. FWIW, not every book I write is going to be furry. It's just my first one published happens to be I guess.

[i54.tinypic.com image 400x600]


Tks. I will have to read, just because I am curious as hell about how you would make that work.

And hell. Who needs innocence anyway?
 
2011-07-08 02:18:32 PM
None of this yet?
www.thinkgeek.com
 
2011-07-08 02:29:11 PM

Ringshadow: Why? Because I can and it amuses me. I like to think it's not overbearing and the story is good regardless of what the characters happen to be. FWIW, not every book I write is going to be furry. It's just my first one published happens to be I guess


Grats Ring! I saw this in the Con thread some time back and didn't offer a grats to ya.

I have a friend who found her niche at Harlequin writing for their 'Nocturnes series using greco-roman mythology. She used it as a way to help pave the way for for her more mainstream writing. Her second book is out soon and the first has already been optioned for a translation overseas! Best wishes to you and your career! :)
 
2011-07-08 02:30:07 PM
i208.photobucket.com
 
2011-07-08 03:20:22 PM

BradleyUffner: None of this yet?
[www.thinkgeek.com image 585x854]


Apparently you didn't click on the link that starsrift posted near the top of the thread.
 
2011-07-08 03:31:25 PM
"We want women to be aware of their own desires rather than be 'awakened'. We aim to reassure our female clients that their first time may not be utterly joyful and that they may not gain reliable orgasms through penetration, but that they themselves are none the less existentially valid and that with affection and good humour things can improve immensely.

Ooh yeah, that's hot....(eyeroll.gif)


BradleyUffner: None of this yet? [www.thinkgeek.com image 585x854]


So his mom's giving him a physical, so what?
 
2011-07-08 03:38:44 PM
Oh shut up and let us read our porn in peace.

This goes right up there with guy's not wanting real relationships because the chicks they date don't look like porn stars. Anyone dumb enough to let that happen doesn't deserve to be in a relationship anyway.

/actually not that into romances
//Fanfic does the same thing cheaper and kinkier.
 
2011-07-08 03:48:23 PM

metametameta: guys is not wanting real relationships because the chicks they date don't look like porn stars.



From now on all porn scenes must have fat nagging unsatisfied women with their hair in curlers and babies crying in the next room. However the men viewing this porn should be reassured that they themselves are none the less existentially valid and that with affection and good humor things can improve immensely.
 
2011-07-08 03:50:20 PM

WeenerGord: metametameta: guys is not wanting real relationships because the chicks they date don't look like porn stars.

From now on all porn scenes must have fat nagging unsatisfied women with their hair in curlers and babies crying in the next room. However the men viewing this porn should be reassured that they themselves are none the less existentially valid and that with affection and good humor things can improve immensely.


Rule 34 in effect.

But metametameta is right, I think. Unrealistic standards are dumb. You can have them if you want, man or woman, but if it ruins your chances of a relationship, ain't no one's fault but yours.
 
2011-07-08 04:09:03 PM

metametameta: Oh shut up and let us read our porn in peace.

This goes right up there with guy's not wanting real relationships because the chicks they date don't look like porn stars. Anyone dumb enough to let that happen doesn't deserve to be in a relationship anyway.

/actually not that into romances
//Fanfic does the same thing cheaper and kinkier.


As a writer of fanfic as well, I agree.

As for expectations.. Yeah. I agree with that too. Nothing wrong with fantasy but you have to go into it with some expectation to hit reality eventually..
 
2011-07-08 04:13:20 PM
I need a definition here: fanfic. Because after reading the last few posts, I think I may have used this term embarrassingly incorrectly.
 
2011-07-08 04:34:15 PM
Thank you for the well wishes everyone :3

namegoeshere: I need a definition here: fanfic. Because after reading the last few posts, I think I may have used this term embarrassingly incorrectly.


I'd define a fan fiction as an independently written story based on an established world setting, usually a TV show, movie, video game, even a book series. Examples, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Harry Potter, Metal Gear solid, etc. Self inserts are common and so is porn. I've written quite a lot of fan fiction for a video game series (no self inserts), it's actually proven to be good practice.
 
2011-07-08 04:46:13 PM
My birthfather has TWO castles in Ireland (well, towerhouses, really) so as soon as he kicks I'm in BIDNESS!
 
2011-07-08 04:47:44 PM

Ringshadow: Thank you for the well wishes everyone :3

namegoeshere: I need a definition here: fanfic. Because after reading the last few posts, I think I may have used this term embarrassingly incorrectly.

I'd define a fan fiction as an independently written story based on an established world setting, usually a TV show, movie, video game, even a book series. Examples, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Harry Potter, Metal Gear solid, etc. Self inserts are common and so is porn. I've written quite a lot of fan fiction for a video game series (no self inserts), it's actually proven to be good practice.


Whew! I think I'm okay. Because I talked about encouraging my 12 year old who writes a lot of fanfic, mostly HP.

I always thought once you stuck the secksy bits in there, the term was slash, from writing the characters' names with a slash to indicate the pairing, as in Ron/Hermione.

Since I mentioned her hobby in a room full of mandated reporters (her IEP meeting) and it's probably in her Permanent Record...
 
2011-07-08 05:00:23 PM

namegoeshere: Whew! I think I'm okay. Because I talked about encouraging my 12 year old who writes a lot of fanfic, mostly HP.

I always thought once you stuck the secksy bits in there, the term was slash, from writing the characters' names with a slash to indicate the pairing, as in Ron/Hermione.

Since I mentioned her hobby in a room full of mandated reporters (her IEP meeting) and it's probably in her Permanent Record...


Ok, uh, now I AM going to correct you. "Slash" implies gay. Could be two males or two females, but yeah. If you see "slash", it's probably NOT an M/F pairing. In fact, bet money on it being M/M.
 
2011-07-08 05:22:21 PM

Ringshadow: Ok, uh, now I AM going to correct you. "Slash" implies gay. Could be two males or two females, but yeah. If you see "slash", it's probably NOT an M/F pairing. In fact, bet money on it being M/M.


I've heard "slash" used for just about any sexual pairing, usually non-canonical, but more in the ways NGH is thinking of. But a majority of slashfic is M/M due to the larger number of female writers in the field.
 
2011-07-08 05:44:39 PM

habitual_masticator: My birthfather has TWO castles in Ireland !


Is his name Arthur Jackson?
 
2011-07-08 05:55:18 PM

WeenerGord: habitual_masticator: My birthfather has TWO castles in Ireland !

Is his name Arthur Jackson?


No, he was just thinking of buying a second.
 
2011-07-08 06:52:03 PM

Ringshadow: namegoeshere: Whew! I think I'm okay. Because I talked about encouraging my 12 year old who writes a lot of fanfic, mostly HP.

I always thought once you stuck the secksy bits in there, the term was slash, from writing the characters' names with a slash to indicate the pairing, as in Ron/Hermione.

Since I mentioned her hobby in a room full of mandated reporters (her IEP meeting) and it's probably in her Permanent Record...

Ok, uh, now I AM going to correct you. "Slash" implies gay. Could be two males or two females, but yeah. If you see "slash", it's probably NOT an M/F pairing. In fact, bet money on it being M/M.


Ah. Thanks.

ConConHead: I've heard "slash" used for just about any sexual pairing, usually non-canonical, but more in the ways NGH is thinking of. But a majority of slashfic is M/M due to the larger number of female writers in the field.

Oh god I'm so confused!
 
2011-07-08 07:42:49 PM

ConConHead: Ringshadow: Ok, uh, now I AM going to correct you. "Slash" implies gay. Could be two males or two females, but yeah. If you see "slash", it's probably NOT an M/F pairing. In fact, bet money on it being M/M.

I've heard "slash" used for just about any sexual pairing, usually non-canonical, but more in the ways NGH is thinking of. But a majority of slashfic is M/M due to the larger number of female writers in the field.


That's an old definition that I haven't seen used since before I got into fandom -- back in 2004. I suppose people who are outside of fandom might still be using it that way.

These days it's divided up into slash (or yaoi if you are anime/manga fandoms) for m/m pairings, femmeslash/femslash/saffic/yuri for f/f, and het for m/f pairings. And if there are no pairings at all, it's gen. And if you can see a pairing if you want to, but friendship if you don't, it's called "squint".

Yeah, so if your 12 year old is reading slash, she's probably reading male/male romances.
 
2011-07-08 08:08:06 PM

metametameta: ConConHead: Ringshadow: Ok, uh, now I AM going to correct you. "Slash" implies gay. Could be two males or two females, but yeah. If you see "slash", it's probably NOT an M/F pairing. In fact, bet money on it being M/M.

I've heard "slash" used for just about any sexual pairing, usually non-canonical, but more in the ways NGH is thinking of. But a majority of slashfic is M/M due to the larger number of female writers in the field.

That's an old definition that I haven't seen used since before I got into fandom -- back in 2004. I suppose people who are outside of fandom might still be using it that way.

These days it's divided up into slash (or yaoi if you are anime/manga fandoms) for m/m pairings, femmeslash/femslash/saffic/yuri for f/f, and het for m/f pairings. And if there are no pairings at all, it's gen. And if you can see a pairing if you want to, but friendship if you don't, it's called "squint".

Yeah, so if your 12 year old is reading slash, she's probably reading male/male romances.


Lol. No, the 12 year old is writing sex-free fanfic. She's a bit on the geeky side - she just recently figured out that oral sex did NOT mean heavy kissing with tongue action.

And she was horrified. "EWWWWW!!! People DO that??"
 
2011-07-08 11:22:45 PM

namegoeshere: metametameta: ConConHead: Ringshadow: Ok, uh, now I AM going to correct you. "Slash" implies gay. Could be two males or two females, but yeah. If you see "slash", it's probably NOT an M/F pairing. In fact, bet money on it being M/M.

I've heard "slash" used for just about any sexual pairing, usually non-canonical, but more in the ways NGH is thinking of. But a majority of slashfic is M/M due to the larger number of female writers in the field.

That's an old definition that I haven't seen used since before I got into fandom -- back in 2004. I suppose people who are outside of fandom might still be using it that way.

These days it's divided up into slash (or yaoi if you are anime/manga fandoms) for m/m pairings, femmeslash/femslash/saffic/yuri for f/f, and het for m/f pairings. And if there are no pairings at all, it's gen. And if you can see a pairing if you want to, but friendship if you don't, it's called "squint".

Yeah, so if your 12 year old is reading slash, she's probably reading male/male romances.

Lol. No, the 12 year old is writing sex-free fanfic. She's a bit on the geeky side - she just recently figured out that oral sex did NOT mean heavy kissing with tongue action.

And she was horrified. "EWWWWW!!! People DO that??"


I was about 12 when I first learned about yaoi. At first I was horrified, then I got addicted.

I told a friend this, she told me she started into it when she was about 8.

Back on topic, Fabio always made me laugh, I remember seeing him on the cover of the Wizards and Warriors game for the NES. Let's check out Uncle Walter's Bad Romance Novel Covers:
http://www.unclewaltersrants.com/uncle_walters_bad_covers/
 
2011-07-09 05:19:47 PM

namegoeshere: I need a definition here: fanfic. Because after reading the last few posts, I think I may have used this term embarrassingly incorrectly.


Fan Fiction Fridays

Have a stiff drink or 12 ready....

/utterly NSFW too
//probably NSFH etiher
 
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