Autism linked to Autism.

Color me shocked.

Diogenes: So we know that alcohol is bad for the developing brain, but toxins that kill neurological enzymes seemed like a good idea?

I'm still trying to figure out how anyone got a doctor to prescribe like this.

Warchild: Now this I can believe.

Indeed. Vaccines? No. SSRI's? Hell yes.

FTFA

"The study included fewer than 300 children with a diagnosed ASD and does not prove that taking SSRIs during pregnancy directly causes ASDs"

Wonder how many will bother to read that and start an anti SSRI campaign

Pregnant women should not take any drugs of any sort unless not doing so would be life threatening.

Came for the pic of Jenny McCarthy & trailer hitch...

/leaving disappointed

Sybarite: So now you have to live with a woman who is not only on raging pregnancy hormones but also off her meds? Lovely.

This, if the wife ever has another child the 1st trimester is happening during the summer this time.

FTFA: "Children whose mothers take Zoloft, Prozac, or similar antidepressants during pregnancy are twice as likely as other children to have a dianosis of autism or a related disorder, according to a small new study, the first to examine the relationship between antidepressants and autism risk."

Or could it be that the children's doctors are just as full or shiat as their mothers?

The lead author of the study, Lisa Croen, Ph.D., the director of autism research at Kaiser Permanente Northern California, a large nonprofit health plan based in Oakland, emphasizes the preliminary nature of her team's findings. "This is the first study of its kind to look at the association, and the findings have to be interpreted with a lot of caution," she says. "We can't detect causality from one study."

This will be lost among the fear mongering headline.

This news makes me sad....I need to go take a pill

Lost Thought 00: Pregnant women should not take any drugs of any sort unless not doing so would be life threatening.

Humans should not take any drugs of any sort.......

I take maybe 2 or 3 aspirin a year when headache pain is bad enough that I cannot open my eyes. But but.. the commercials said if I am feeling this way then I have this and I need to take this drug!!!

Diogenes: So we know that alcohol is bad for the developing brain, but toxins that kill neurological enzymes seemed like a good idea?

This.

According to Dr. Dennis Leary: "There is a huge boom in autism right now because inattentive mothers and competitive dads want an explanation for why their dumb-ass kids can't compete academically, so they throw money into the happy laps of shrinks . . . to get back diagnoses that help explain away the deficiencies of their junior morons. I don't give a [bleep] what these crackerjack whack jobs tell you - yer kid is NOT autistic. He's just stupid. Or lazy. Or both."

Transkaren: Diogenes: So we know that alcohol is bad for the developing brain, but toxins that kill neurological enzymes seemed like a good idea?

I'm still trying to figure out how anyone got a doctor to prescribe like this.

Warchild: Now this I can believe.

Indeed. Vaccines? No. SSRI's? Hell yes.

doctors get a kickback based on how much they prescribe. top prescribers also get sent on trips to five star resorts [used to be my job to send them]
that it treats a given symptom is like 4th or 5th on the list of considerations as to why a doctor prescribes a drug.

We used to lock people up because they were crazy. Now we medicate them and turn them loose into society. Now we have a growing problem of mentally handicapped children from these mentally handicapped parents. Terrible consequences for terrible policies.

Everyone I know who has been on antidepressants and had kids have never been pregnant and on their medication at the same time. I didn't know staying on your meds during pregnancy was a thing.

It's also makes it 1000% more likely for your child to be diagnosed with whatever overdiagnosed conditions big pharmaceuticals are paying doctors to push.

Anayalator: According to Dr. Dennis Leary: "There is a huge boom in autism right now because inattentive mothers and competitive dads want an explanation for why their dumb-ass kids can't compete academically, so they throw money into the happy laps of shrinks . . . to get back diagnoses that help explain away the deficiencies of their junior morons. I don't give a [bleep] what these crackerjack whack jobs tell you - yer kid is NOT autistic. He's just stupid. Or lazy. Or both."

Are u sure this is not a mike savage quote?

the_sidewinder: Or this could be an interesting observation that merits further study, perhaps in a more controlled environment

True. It certainly makes more sense that a drug that changes the brain's chemistry and crosses the placental barrier may have an adverse effect on a developing brain. Makes more sense than blaming vaccines, which are indeed causing a host of problems - just not autism.

Autism, like ADHD in years gone by, is only the darling pediatric misdiagnosis right now. Most of the kids diagnosed aren't autistic. I think the Dennis Leary quote above sums it up rather nicely.

People aren't seeing that medical "science" is trying to make permanent patients our of all of us.

Maybe the Debbie Downers of the world don't need to be passing on their sad-ass genes to begin with.

The My Little Pony Killer: Everyone I know who has been on antidepressants and had kids have never been pregnant and on their medication at the same time. I didn't know staying on your meds during pregnancy was a thing.

Any doctor will tell the mom to go off the meds while pregnant. But, some mothers don't follow the advice.

This is not an experiment that can prove anything, it is a survey-based study asking people questions about unhealthy things they've done. All it can show is 'strong link' not 'proof of cause.' In the post-Thalidomide world, there will never be a controlled experiment involving drugs and pregnant women.

I would be interested to see what percentage of the general population of mothers would admit to using any kind of drug while pregnant. It's probably larger than anyone would like it to be.

I have come to my own personal non-scientific conclusion that Jenny McCarthy causes autism, and that she is raising an army of autistic servants as part of her bid for world domination.

Still, she did look pretty good in the (NSFW) bathtub way back when.

It's not surprising to me.

The bummer on top of all this is...
You're taking these drugs, and then you end up getting pregnant, and it's too late. It was in your system already. I don't see why it couldn't be affecting the child from the beginning. Hell, you want to say life begins at conception, okay... so does the drug interaction.
Makes a good case for abortion then.

/ooops, I said it.

Err - why in hell are people who are so messed up they need drugs to cope allowed to breed?

97X, bam! The future of rock 'n' roll. 97X, bam! The future of rock 'n' roll. 97X, bam! The future of rock 'n' roll.

Or could it be that the children's doctors are just as full or shiat as their mothers?

Are you suggesting the anti-depressant industry is fabricating or otherwise using semi-facts to increase their financial customer base?

Color me shocked...

So overmedicating an imaginary malady results in kids with an imaginary malady?

Clearly, pregnancy is far too difficult and important to trust to women.

Unsung_Hero: Err - why in hell are people who are so messed up they need drugs to cope allowed to breed?

Same reason people with AIDS aren't quarantined. It would be inhumane to not allow them to spread their disease.

I'm sure the rising age of first time mothers has nothing to do with it.
How would you feel if you had spent most of your life watching your siblings not be fertilized, gestated, born?

Stoker: It's not surprising to me.

The bummer on top of all this is...
You're taking these drugs, and then you end up getting pregnant, and it's too late. It was in your system already. I don't see why it couldn't be affecting the child from the beginning. Hell, you want to say life begins at conception, okay... so does the drug interaction.
Makes a good case for abortion then.

/ooops, I said it.

Not all drugs have the same half life. Some will stay in the body for weeks, some are gone within hours.

The moral, as usual, is "Don't stick your dick in crazy."

Nice one, subby. +1 would LOLZ again

Note to self: Keep a set of stairs at the ready.

Jesus...

They hand out drugs like they are candy to pregnant women

My wife was offered antidepressants, Ambien, morphine when she was in the hospital with food poisoning and pregnant, Vicadin, and more.

The only one she was more or less forced to take was something to stop contractions at 33 weeks.

While this is preliminary, was their any doubt that we would have some side effects on a fetus?

s2s2s2: I'm sure the rising age of first time mothers has nothing to do with it.
How would you feel if you had spent most of your life watching your siblings not be fertilized, gestated, born?

Huh?

Kazrath: Humans should not take any drugs of any sort.......

I take maybe 2 or 3 aspirin a year when headache pain is bad enough that I cannot open my eyes. But but.. the commercials said if I am feeling this way then I have this and I need to take this drug!!!

Partially agreed. Most drugs are very nasty things, and should be avoided unless you absolutely need them. But some are necessary for the body and brain to work properly; SSRIs can fall under that category.

2001-2009, I took antibiotics as needed, allergy pills as needed, and pain pills as needed (which was rare, though I did take 1 for having my 4 wisdom teeth removed)... and I felt completely miserable all the time.

Now I take 8 pills (2 meds, plus aspirin to mitigate damage from another med) a day, and they've fixed the vast majority of my issues. I am looking into something for my OCD, though I'm not sure it's completely necessary.

Ball of Confusion: doctors get a kickback based on how much they prescribe. top prescribers also get sent on trips to five star resorts [used to be my job to send them]
that it treats a given symptom is like 4th or 5th on the list of considerations as to why a doctor prescribes a drug.

Fortunately, my "doc" (a Nurse Practitioner) doesn't do that very often. Hell, I can't even convince her to increase dosages half the time, even with moderate proof that they work better with higher dosages.

The My Little Pony Killer: Huh?

If you don't get it, don't laugh.