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(Some Guy)   And the latest person to come out in Jon Stewart's defense is... Rick Sanchez?   (xfinitytv.comcast.net) divider line 83
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2011-07-04 02:38:14 PM  
Unless we're ready to classify Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh as comedians rather than pundits, anchors or hosts on a news network, then any comparison to Jon is a false one.

Oh, they are all comedians. Three of them are unintentionally hilarious.
 
2011-07-04 02:49:54 PM  

mediablitz: Oh, they are all comedians. Three of them are unintentionally hilarious.


When you're laughing at them instead of with them, they're not comedians; they're clowns.
 
2011-07-04 04:44:42 PM  
Man, Stewart just walked right into that one. Kind of funny in a strange way to see the satirist get played.
 
2011-07-04 04:58:06 PM  
I wasn't aware that Jon Stewart needed defending.
 
2011-07-04 05:50:56 PM  

FishyFred: I wasn't aware that Jon Stewart needed defending.


^
 
2011-07-04 05:55:22 PM  
Is Sanchez even a legal resident?

/Not a bigot
 
2011-07-04 05:57:48 PM  

SpaceButler: When you're laughing at them instead of with them, they're not comedians; they're clowns.


Clowns scare me.

Those three scare me.

Interesting coincidence...
 
2011-07-04 05:58:03 PM  

2wolves: FishyFred: I wasn't aware that Jon Stewart needed defending.

^


^
 
2011-07-04 06:00:54 PM  

FishyFred: I wasn't aware that Jon Stewart needed defending.

 
2011-07-04 06:08:30 PM  
Blathering Idjut: I wasn't aware that Jon Stewart needed defending.
 
2011-07-04 06:18:03 PM  

mediablitz: Unless we're ready to classify Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh as comedians rather than pundits, anchors or hosts on a news network, then any comparison to Jon is a false one.

Oh, they are all comedians. Three of them are unintentionally hilarious.


SpaceButler: mediablitz: Oh, they are all comedians. Three of them are unintentionally hilarious.

When you're laughing at them instead of with them, they're not comedians; they're clowns.


Regular listers/viewers, are ya guys?
 
2011-07-04 06:18:17 PM  
Sounds like the age old 'join the other side when defeated' tactic. Pu&&y.
 
2011-07-04 06:18:28 PM  
I wasn't aware that Jon Stewart needed defending.
 
2011-07-04 06:22:15 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-07-04 06:26:45 PM  
I wasn't aware that Jon Stewart needed defending.
 
2011-07-04 06:52:22 PM  
Apparently Fox News is trying the whole "You're a racist for pointing out we're racists" thing. This doesn't seem to have any traction outside that noise chamber, however.
 
2011-07-04 06:57:10 PM  

jake_lex: Apparently Fox News is trying the whole "You're a racist for pointing out we're racists" thing. This doesn't seem to have any traction outside that noise chamber, however.


Someone tried to play that card with me yesterday when I pointed out the racial caricatures in Transformers 2, with the extra added "I'm black and I wasn't offended, so you shouldn't be either" argument thrown in too. It was hilariously pathetic.
 
2011-07-04 07:02:21 PM  
dirty move, Rick
 
2011-07-04 07:25:46 PM  
YODA:Aware I wasn't that defending needed Jon Stewart
 
2011-07-04 07:34:12 PM  
Faux News file photo of Jon Stewart:
i226.photobucket.com
 
2011-07-04 07:49:01 PM  

FishyFred: I wasn't aware that Jon Stewart needed defending.


...If he did, he could do it himself.
 
2011-07-04 07:56:59 PM  
I wasn't aware that Jon Stewart needed defending.
 
2011-07-04 08:10:25 PM  
Wait, Jon Stewart needed defending?
 
2011-07-04 08:28:59 PM  
Would it be acceptable if a right leaning comedian (say Dennis Miller) was doing Obama and did it in a Stepin Fetchit type voice? I think there might be some outrage if that was done.
 
2011-07-04 08:43:36 PM  
Hey, I just got here, but I heard Jon Stewart needs to be defended. Pass it on.
 
2011-07-04 08:48:36 PM  

mjbok: Would it be acceptable if a right leaning comedian (say Dennis Miller) was doing Obama and did it in a Stepin Fetchit type voice? I think there might be some outrage if that was done.


Well, yes.

1) Dennis Miller does not usually cheesy imitations. Jon Stewart does.

2) Obama does not sound like a parody of a Baptist preacher, as did Cain when he pledged to sign no bills longer than three pages. Obama sounds like Poindexter. Any mocking imitation of Obama would be better delivered in the Jerry Lewis/Nutty Professor voice.

So, if Miller did the Stepin Fetchit, it would just be dumb. Miller would just be trying to tie Obama to a stereotype, not mock Obama for his own mockability. And that is not what Jon Stewart does.
 
2011-07-04 08:50:54 PM  
1. We know conservatives are racist. Our evidence is x, y and z.
2. All those instances of liberals doing x, y and z? Doesn't count, because we know liberals aren't racist.

It's the ciiiiiiiircle of logic.
 
2011-07-04 08:51:52 PM  
Has anyone expressed that they were unaware Jon Stewart needed defending?

Because I surely wasn't.
 
2011-07-04 08:52:35 PM  

DeaH: 1) Dennis Miller does not usually cheesy imitations. Jon Stewart does.


True. However, take any comedian, whatever their political stripe and have them do any stereo typical voice outside of their own race/sexuality. There are problems. How many "shock jocks" have gotten in trouble for doing asian voices? Stewart has become such a darling of the public that he would really have to screw up to get any blow back. Kind of like Ernie McKracken (except Stewart is not a bad guy like McKracken was), he has such adoration he can do stuff that would get other people in trouble/fired, etc.
 
2011-07-04 08:56:54 PM  
You say Fox News needs upending?
 
2011-07-04 09:31:10 PM  
Is there a "Jon Stewart needs defending" meme brewing in here?

If so,I'll get my mug.
 
2011-07-04 09:50:04 PM  
I wasn't aware that I had to have Jon Stewart's back, yo.

/mix it up a little.
 
2011-07-04 09:50:29 PM  
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2011-07-04 10:01:57 PM  
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2011-07-04 10:05:13 PM  

DeaH:
1) Dennis Miller does not usually cheesy imitations. Jon Stewart does.



He also, sadly, no longer does clever or subtle allusions.

/I blame his new audience.
 
2011-07-04 10:06:54 PM  

mjbok: DeaH: 1) Dennis Miller does not usually cheesy imitations. Jon Stewart does.

True. However, take any comedian, whatever their political stripe and have them do any stereo typical voice outside of their own race/sexuality. There are problems. How many "shock jocks" have gotten in trouble for doing asian voices? Stewart has become such a darling of the public that he would really have to screw up to get any blow back. Kind of like Ernie McKracken (except Stewart is not a bad guy like McKracken was), he has such adoration he can do stuff that would get other people in trouble/fired, etc.


I guess this is the only reply to your point. (new window - you can skip to 4:50, but the whole thing is worth a look.)
 
2011-07-04 10:08:14 PM  
私はジョンスチュワートが、防御に必要なことに気付いていなかった。
 
2011-07-04 10:09:52 PM  
Fox is really trying hard to claim there's some uproar over Stewart right now. As far as I can tell, the only people upset are the people working at Fox -- not even their viewers.
 
2011-07-04 10:10:56 PM  

jjorsett: "I was on the receiving end of Jon's jokes for a long, long time," Sanchez writes now. "I was thin-skinned enough to think that I was a target due to my ethnicity."

What, 'preppy White douchebag' is now an ethnicity?

[i54.tinypic.com image 300x300]



What a "brown person" may look like to a liberal when it suits their cause:
images.forbes.com

Of course, when it doesn't, they're just a typical whitey.
 
2011-07-04 10:16:26 PM  
I haven't followed this that closely, but has anyone brought up the fact that Herman Cain was essentially doing an "Amos and Andy" impression in the speech that Stewart was mocking? Go to youtube and watch him in various interviews and stump speeches. He speaks in normal, proper, educated American English for the most part and then slides into a black preacher voice when he's trying to make a point.

Obama also tries to do this sometimes, but he's not very good at it.
 
2011-07-04 10:30:31 PM  

DeaH: I guess this is the only reply to your point. (new window - you can skip to 4:50, but the whole thing is worth a look.)


Once again point taken, but many comedians would be fired for doing that exact same schtick. I'm not offended by it, and I think the "outrage" is basically a lot of people on the right seeing a possibility to go after someone on the "other team." The only person who should have a say in this is Cain, who was doing nearly what Stewart was doing in his sendup, and you could argue that Cain is doing it for press. Stewart (as your clip showed) goes into stereo types A LOT, and doesn't get flack for it (outside of the current event). That is a latitude that pretty much no entertainer gets.
 
2011-07-04 10:31:46 PM  
The funny part is that the silly liberal bullshiat definition of racist was applied to a liberal, and liberals can't handle it.

They're used to throwing it like a rock at everyone else.
 
2011-07-04 10:41:53 PM  
images.huffingtonpost.com
 
2011-07-04 11:20:45 PM  

mjbok: DeaH: 1) Dennis Miller does not usually cheesy imitations. Jon Stewart does.

True. However, take any comedian, whatever their political stripe and have them do any stereo typical voice outside of their own race/sexuality. There are problems. How many "shock jocks" have gotten in trouble for doing asian voices? Stewart has become such a darling of the public that he would really have to screw up to get any blow back. Kind of like Ernie McKracken (except Stewart is not a bad guy like McKracken was), he has such adoration he can do stuff that would get other people in trouble/fired, etc.


Jon Stewart didn't do a "stereotypical voice"--he mimicked Cain's voice.
 
2011-07-04 11:29:07 PM  

Snot Monster from Outer Space: Jon Stewart didn't do a "stereotypical voice"--he mimicked Cain's voice.


He's not Rich Little, but that was more Sharpton than Cain, and a dead-on Sharpton out of context is a stereotype or a caricature. Look at the clip someone else linked above. Stewart does over the top caricatures when doing voices, whether it be a gay voice or a jewish voice or a black voice. He was not doing an impression, he was doing a caricature, which is what he does.
 
2011-07-04 11:43:37 PM  
Not sure if anyone has posted this yet, but it is in my humble opinion that Jon Stewart needs no defending.
 
2011-07-04 11:51:44 PM  

mjbok: Snot Monster from Outer Space: Jon Stewart didn't do a "stereotypical voice"--he mimicked Cain's voice.

He's not Rich Little, but that was more Sharpton than Cain, and a dead-on Sharpton out of context is a stereotype or a caricature. Look at the clip someone else linked above. Stewart does over the top caricatures when doing voices, whether it be a gay voice or a jewish voice or a black voice. He was not doing an impression, he was doing a caricature, which is what he does.


Doing a caricature of a specific person's voice isn't racist or stereotypical.
 
2011-07-05 12:03:48 AM  
barneyfifesbullet: The funny part is that the silly liberal bullshiat definition of racist was applied to a liberal, and liberals can't handle it. They're used to throwing it like a rock at everyone else.

Yeah, that's the funny part, genius.
 
2011-07-05 12:22:52 AM  

SomeoneDumb: DeaH:
1) Dennis Miller does not usually cheesy imitations. Jon Stewart does.

He also, sadly, no longer does clever or subtle allusions.


You mean those incomprehensible, obscure metaphorical mashups?

Too bad. Having almost no fear of people not "getting it" was his best trait, imo.
 
2011-07-05 12:40:59 AM  
There's a rumor going around that Jon stewart doesn't need anyone to defend him
 
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