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2003-08-31 08:08:37 AM
I can't believe my area was not shown, unemployment here is ridiculously low, below 2%. A number of friends have lost jobs, but they have been able to get new ones in days.
 
2003-08-31 08:09:23 AM
You know what's funny? The average of our top 10 highest unemployment rates is _still_ lower than the unemployment rate of most European countries.

Looks like Socialism works, eh?
 
2003-08-31 08:11:37 AM
Needs an overlay of the impact of uncontrolled immigration. Most of the cities with highest unemployment are in those cities taking the brunt of the uncontrolled Mexican immigration.
 
2003-08-31 08:15:14 AM
Which Socialist countries are you speaking of, dj28?
 
2003-08-31 08:17:59 AM
Wow, at #2, 4, 5, 6,, 7, and 8, more proof that CA's central valley sucks.

And Silly-con valley didn't even make the top 10.
 
2003-08-31 08:21:10 AM
Sioux Falls, SD, Job Capital Of America????
 
2003-08-31 08:28:46 AM
Come on, I'm waiting for the unrelated Republican Vs Democrat war about the economy that was scheduled HALF AN HOUR AGO. I don't have all day you know.
 
2003-08-31 08:31:02 AM
I don't know which socialist countries you mean. But, looking at Germany, not socialist but pretty important for the total European unemployment, there is an overall 10% unemployment. But, that number includes an unemployment rate of about 70% for the old East. The high rate results from an an addition of East Germans in the new Germany. Many of those folks are unemployable and will continue to add to the total unemployment rate until official retirement age.

http://www.destatis.de/basis/e/erwerb/erwerbtab4.htm

The US cities with the highest unemployment rates have a similar problem, but there it is due to the addition of Mexican nationals.
 
2003-08-31 08:34:51 AM
dj28 - i've traveled to four different countries in *ahem* "socialist" europe in the past two years, uh, i don't see a big unemployment problem. i walk down the street here and i see unemployment problems.
guess socialism does work, eh?
 
2003-08-31 08:36:24 AM
hatechall

K, it's all clinton's fault cause he got a blow job
and it's all Bush's fault cause he's a big fat doodie head.

flame away!
 
2003-08-31 08:37:33 AM
Visalia-Tulare-Porterville, Calif. 13.6
4
6 Fresno, Calif. 13.3
5
7 Modesto, Calif. 12.0
6
8 (tie) Bakersfield, Calif. 11.9
7


Can any of my fellow Californians answer me as to why that first one is listed together, but the others are not?

It's all the same damn place. Filthy, stinking, exploding-trailer country.

What is it about hot places that make people such morons?
 
2003-08-31 08:41:43 AM
Delay

Needs an overlay of the impact of uncontrolled immigration. Most of the cities with highest unemployment are in those cities taking the brunt of the uncontrolled Mexican immigration.

Are you disgruntled because a Mexican took over your job as an orange seller or a lawn mower? Tough times!
Oooh those evil Mexicans taking over those jobs.
 
2003-08-31 08:42:14 AM
Scary. Six of the top ten unemployment areas are in California.
 
2003-08-31 08:44:56 AM
Oh I get it...sucks to be Yuma...ha.
 
2003-08-31 08:49:33 AM
Too bad that list couldn't have thrown in Stockton and Manteca for a central valley tour-de-force of suck.

Stockton is the central valley's answer to Oakland.
 
2003-08-31 08:49:51 AM
2003-08-31 08:08:37 AM MorningBreath
I can't believe my area was not shown, unemployment here is ridiculously low, below 2%. A number of friends have lost jobs, but they have been able to get new ones in days.

Where is your area?
 
2003-08-31 08:52:56 AM
jizzmasterzero

Not disgruntled in the least. I'm just arguing that the reason why those particular areas have such high unemployment rates is that those areas have borne the brunt of the current wave of Mexican immigration. The uncontrolled immigation is now running at 3.5 million persons into Calif. this year and was 2.5 million last year. A population movement of that magintude has to show up in the figures at some point, right?
 
2003-08-31 08:53:49 AM
I live in California. A friend of mine is president of the local school board. He just told me that the school population is dropping this year. So bad that he has to negotiate lay-offs with the teachers union.

It appears that the Mexican nationals are moving home becasue there is no work and taking their school age children with them.
 
2003-08-31 08:54:07 AM
2.4% in Sioux Falls... but that means you have to actually live in Sioux Falls. Fun.
 
2003-08-31 08:55:15 AM
Since unemployment in the UK is lower than that in the US, I can only assume that dj28 will be advocating the introduction of more socialised welfare programs, proper sports, correct English spelling and a constitutional monarchy for the US.
 
2003-08-31 08:58:16 AM
California's population has pretty much levelled off, with many people leaving.

Most of the folks that are moving out are moving to Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Nevada, etc. and causing housing prices to soar. Unemployment is gaining up there, too.
 
2003-08-31 09:00:41 AM
"i've traveled to four different countries in *ahem* 'socialist' europe in the past two years, uh, i don't see a big unemployment problem. i walk down the street here and i see unemployment problems."

Wow! I guess unemployment IS worse in the US than in Europe. I thought that the numbers said the opposite, but Sline walked down streets and noticed that 10% unemployment isn't as big a problem as 5%. Thanks, Sline!
 
2003-08-31 09:07:50 AM
nicoffeine is correct

In the 1980s, more than 1 million people moved from the other 49 states into California. But since the 1980s, larely due to two severe recessions, one in the early 1990s and the other one still going on, more US citizens have moved from California into other parts of the U.S. than have moved from those other parts into California. This net loss of 2.08 million Californians to the rest of the nation was largely offset by net immigration primarily from Mexico.
 
2003-08-31 09:16:30 AM
dj28, Thanks for the laughs!
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2003-08-31 09:19:53 AM
If these are the usual figures they don't count illegal immigrants or anybody else legally unable to work, or who isn't looking for a job.
 
2003-08-31 09:20:49 AM
Blame the Mexicans for taking those crap jobs and working their butts off.
 
2003-08-31 09:33:13 AM
and getting paid little, no less!!!
 
2003-08-31 09:38:53 AM
go maine!
 
2003-08-31 09:42:18 AM
I bet Nick Papageorgio still has a job.
 
2003-08-31 09:47:15 AM
You really have to question WHERE these statistics come from. Who is actually being counted as "unemployed"?

Most countries compile data from their respective "social security" net. If a person is collecting benefits of some sort (employment ensurance), they are counted as "unemployed"

If they fail the means test to recieve these benefits, they "fall through the holes in the social security net" and don't get counted. Yes, they have no jobs but they aren't in the governement's database, so don't get included in the stats.

The "means tests" in N America tend to be harsher than in European countries, so you can bet the US DOES have a higher rate than advertized!
 
2003-08-31 09:50:32 AM
I was unemployed from August 2001 to April 2002 and I never went whereever it is I was supposed to go to get these "unemployment benefits" In fact, I still don't know where I would go to apply for them or how much I'd get paid. Anyway, I guess that means I wasn't counted as unemployed. Right?
 
2003-08-31 09:53:16 AM
Intelligent conversation, guys... keep it up. :-)
 
2003-08-31 09:54:13 AM
enave

Yes, how else would the government know?
Also, you could be living on severance (and fail the means tests because of it!) if you qualified for it from your last job.
 
2003-08-31 09:57:23 AM
I want my cookies back, no sugar on the frosted mini wheates. ahhhhhhhh...!!!!
 
2003-08-31 10:01:25 AM
I can't believe all of my homies here in Flint, MI arent listed on there. I am sure we have unemployment of 12%+. I am also sure we have McDonalds breakfast, which will taste greasily delicious until it reaches my stomach, at which point it will turn into discomforting swirly badness.
 
2003-08-31 10:05:01 AM
The source for this article is the US Labor Dept. Labor's numbers are usually different that those from the US Census. The Labor numbers only include legal residents looking for work and collecting unemployment. If a person has been unemployed too long (loses unemployment benefits), is not a resident or has not applied for benefits, that person is not included in Labor's numbers. Actual unemployment is higher than the Labor numbers.
 
2003-08-31 10:10:40 AM
Worldwide Unemployment figures.

Worldwide Unemployment Figures!

Hope to god that works.

The Falklands looks like the place to go to find work.
 
2003-08-31 10:11:28 AM
You really have to question WHERE these statistics come from. Who is actually being counted as "unemployed"?

Actually, these kinds of figures always incorporate some factor that screws up the relevance of the findings.

Take this, for example. In most studies on unemployment rates, the number of positions filled is counted against the general population. Now, if you think about that for a minute, it's pretty screwed up. Areas with a high percentage of minorities and uneducated blue collar workers never get represented accurately. Why?
Because if someone is having to work three jobs to pay the bills, which is often the case in this type of situation - they get counted as three people working. So two unemployed guys get counted as having a job.
I live in an area of Texas which supposedly, acoording to a study a few years ago, which has a very low unemployment rate. I thought that was odd, considering there were no decent jobs to be had, and tons of people surviving off of welfare. Still, according to the study, we were supposedly living high on the hog.
I did some research and found out how the results are calcuated...and found out that MOST studies do this exact same thing. All fine and dandy, but only good to make someone in power look good.
 
2003-08-31 10:15:21 AM
When I lived in Arizona, we had several clients in Yuma, and I regularly had to travel there.

Yuma, AZ is probably the most horrible place in America. It's hot, it smells, and it's depressing. It reminds me of one of those poor Mexican towns 20-30 miles South of the border, only not as nice.

Now I'm unemployed. Thank goodness I live in Modesto where... oh wait.

Stockton is the central valley's answer to Oakland

If that's true, then Fresno is the Central Valley's answer to Yuma.
 
2003-08-31 10:17:58 AM
I guess I should lighten up on my worthless brother-in-law in Yuma, Az who hasn't had a job in 2 years.
 
2003-08-31 10:19:59 AM
sociopathic

I'm pretty sure many of those numbers are not to be believed. Mexico's unemployment is given as 3%. Nobody can accept that number.
 
2003-08-31 10:40:43 AM
I am sure they dont count recent grads who did not have a full time job in school since they are not eligible for unemployment. Many grads for the last three years have been SOL or it takes them six months or more to find a job.
 
2003-08-31 10:45:39 AM
Next month Gov. Joe Davis will be added to the ranks of California's unemployed.
 
2003-08-31 10:45:51 AM
Delay: The CIA can, I guess.
 
2003-08-31 10:48:47 AM
the stats don't tell the story...obviously.

For instance, when I lost my computer job to H1B, I turned to (yikes) delivering pizza for a few months. That was the most degrading thing I've ever done...so I'm pretty lucky considering.

I'm just now beginning to work my way back up...but the first thing I did was get back in school and get into an industry they won't relocate so easily!

H1B is teh sux0rz
 
LH
2003-08-31 10:55:17 AM
"I am sure they dont count recent grads who did not have a full time job in school since they are not eligible for unemployment. Many grads for the last three years have been SOL or it takes them six months or more to find a job."

While that is true. My problem with your statement is, the majority of those college grads that cant find jobs are ones that got lib arts degrees or two didnt intern/get experiance in college.

Anyone without experiance is SOL. People dont have to be unemployed, there are plenty of unskilled labor jobs out there, but people refuse to get a temp job until they find another career type job.
 
2003-08-31 11:04:00 AM
I'm wondering something about Yuma. When I was there in the Army, every winter we would get a giant influx of snow-birds-- retirees from up north who come south for the winter. They basically lead to triple the typical population of the city. I wonder if they were included in the survey, thus the high results. Also, being 5 miles from the mexican border may have something else to do with it. And of course, now that I work in Modesto, I'm not sure which of the towns were worse.
 
2003-08-31 11:04:47 AM
Delivering pizza degrading? I did that for 2 years. Made about $5oo a week,cash (no taxes)got to cruise all over in my Jeep and met tons of girls. One of the best jobs I ever had. Of course I lived and delivered in an upscale part of town.
 
2003-08-31 11:16:01 AM
Thank God our president is well rested after ANOTHER month long 'working vacation' at his 'Western white house' in Texas. Now he can really get serious and tackle the unemployment issue in this country.
It will be comforting for him to create some more of those well paying and benefit laden 'service jobs' that all pay ,
 
2003-08-31 11:17:52 AM
less than $10 anhour.

dumb HTML....
 
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