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(STLToday)   Had a bunch of stuff stolen in St. Louis? the police don't have time for you and are now recommending vigilante justice   (stltoday.com) divider line 137
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2011-07-02 10:32:37 AM
Subby & 30 year former resident that bailed on this city...it's rapidly becoming a third world hole with a really nice Arch. :(
 
2011-07-02 01:43:33 PM
I like the original headline,Police drop ball on stolen phone

I suppose that voids the warranty.
 
2011-07-02 02:17:06 PM
cops are farkin useless....
 
2011-07-02 02:19:27 PM

real shaman: cops are farkin useless....


i disagree. they're quite useful if you have $$$ and connections...

Rich White Guy Justice in STL
 
2011-07-02 02:21:11 PM
I went out there last night and emerged unscathed. Of course, I was on historic Route 66 (Dunn Rd.) alongside 270.

Never go into downtown St. Louis alone. I went to Oktoberfest one year by myself and was amazed that I got out of Soulard.
 
2011-07-02 02:21:46 PM
As long as you know beyond a shadow of a doubt you got the right person I am ok with this.
 
2011-07-02 02:23:06 PM
Considering the police are just a street gang with more enforcement power I doubt vigilante "justice" will be much less just than "real" justice.
 
2011-07-02 02:23:58 PM
Police Chief Dan Isom acknowledged Friday that his department erred on several fronts in responding to the victims' calls. But at the same time, he said, detectives were actively pursuing other leads in the 60 overnight break-ins, including theirs, that occurred in and around downtown.

How many of those leads involved GPS coordinates to the thieves?
 
2011-07-02 02:24:45 PM
Ha! Expecting the cops to help you. That's funny.
 
2011-07-02 02:25:15 PM
They did this in Alabama when the tornado looters showed up. The sheriff was on the radio saying if someone is trying to loot, just do whatever you feel like you need to do. Fixed that right up.
 
2011-07-02 02:25:29 PM
cops busy juggling balls like it's the 80's all over again.

/meanwhile the "TSA crime ring" is fondling balls.
 
2011-07-02 02:25:54 PM
What? You cant send nice white people with matching first names from the suburbs into the "hood" to pick up 4K worth of stolen camera equipment.

/Who the hell takes that much stuff to a damn baseball game?
 
2011-07-02 02:27:26 PM
When don't the St. Louis police drop the ball? Had my car broken into one night after working 2nd shift downtown, luckily the thieves were inept who shattered the steering wheel shaft and were left with a disabled car with the added bonus of a brick the idiots brought and didn't use. Cops were called, an hour later they showed up. Didn't dust for prints, did nothing other than threaten to ticket/tow my car for being broken down on a street. Couldn't get a tow truck to move my car myself, so they towed my car and I got to deal with having it returned the next day. Can't wait to leave this hell hole.
 
2011-07-02 02:27:32 PM
Cops only care about drug dealers b/c they get to steal their shiat.
 
2011-07-02 02:27:43 PM
Speeding tickets don't just write themselves.
 
2011-07-02 02:28:38 PM
Headline should be "Police drop ball on direct link to thief who stole at least 4,000 dollars worth of stuff from multiple cars". The existing headline makes the story seem kind of stupid- other things can take priority over a phone. But the police were distracted by car break ins, and IGNORED an opportunity to directly solve at least two of them right away! Plus 4,000 dollars of camera equipment and a laptop are a bigger deal than just mentioning the phone.
 
2011-07-02 02:28:46 PM
Catching thieves does nothing for the pension fund.

Tickets are the cash cow.
 
2011-07-02 02:29:00 PM
"Many other balls were picked up that night and after."

GAY!
 
2011-07-02 02:29:59 PM
Issue licenses, tags, and no bag limits, and the place will be out of debt and trouble-free REAL quick.
 
Zel
2011-07-02 02:30:46 PM

jayg22: What? You cant send nice white people with matching first names from the suburbs into the "hood" to pick up 4K worth of stolen camera equipment.

/Who the hell takes that much stuff to a damn baseball game?


4K is probably one nice camera with lens. Those big heavy ones you see pros with, they are all several thousand dollars. Someone with no car would be just as appalled that everyone else seems comfortable leaving their multi thousand dollar vehicle unattended in the parkinglot!
 
2011-07-02 02:31:39 PM
heck, Busch IV had a coke whore die of an OD in his mansion and refused to cooperate with the investigation...the police just stopped trying at that point. you or I, we'd be locked up right now.

more rich white guy justice in STL
 
2011-07-02 02:33:28 PM
stop fumbling your balls
 
2011-07-02 02:33:36 PM

Zel: 4K is probably one nice camera with lens. Those big heavy ones you see pros with, they are all several thousand dollars. Someone with no car would be just as appalled that everyone else seems comfortable leaving their multi thousand dollar vehicle unattended in the parkinglot!


I never understood why people pay so much to go to a game to take picture at the game.

/Watch the damn game.
 
2011-07-02 02:34:28 PM

adammpower: heck, Busch IV had a coke whore die of an OD in his mansion and refused to cooperate with the investigation...the police just stopped trying at that point. you or I, we'd be locked up right now.

more rich white guy justice in STL


"Busch left Arizona to attend the Jesuit-run Saint Louis University, where, in 1985, he nearly rammed into an unmarked police car filled with narcotics detectives while driving home from a topless bar. The police began to chase his speeding Mercedes, thinking he was a drug dealer. Eventually one of the officers shot out a tire on the Mercedes. When they found out who was behind the wheel, they changed the tire. Nonetheless, they arrested Busch on assault charges. August IV said he thought the police were trying to kidnap him, and a jury acquitted him."

AWWWWW YEEEEEAAAAHHHHH!
 
2011-07-02 02:36:30 PM
Welcome to St. Louis. The armpit of the united states. My moms house was repeatedly robbed, cars broken into, stole my sons pool out of the back yard.... something like 11 incidents in one year. Cops did not care. But were very interested in arresting me because they thought my tags were illegal. If it does not bring in revenue for them, they aren't interested. And the corruption is so extensive that no one can even step in and fight. Id move, but all my family is here ...
 
M-G
2011-07-02 02:37:31 PM

adammpower: heck, Busch IV had a coke whore die of an OD in his mansion and refused to cooperate with the investigation...the police just stopped trying at that point. you or I, we'd be locked up right now.


'cept that was in the county, not the city.

But back to the story at hand, I'm gonna take a wild guess that the victims had everything sitting in their car in plain sight?
 
2011-07-02 02:40:02 PM

earthworm2.0: Welcome to St. Louis. The armpit of the united states. My moms house was repeatedly robbed, cars broken into, stole my sons pool out of the back yard.... something like 11 incidents in one year. Cops did not care. But were very interested in arresting me because they thought my tags were illegal. If it does not bring in revenue for them, they aren't interested. And the corruption is so extensive that no one can even step in and fight. Id move, but all my family is here ...


All our family is there too, we really felt divided about leaving. 2.5 years-post escape, I can say it was the wisest thing we've ever done.
 
2011-07-02 02:40:45 PM

M-G: adammpower: heck, Busch IV had a coke whore die of an OD in his mansion and refused to cooperate with the investigation...the police just stopped trying at that point. you or I, we'd be locked up right now.

'cept that was in the county, not the city.

But back to the story at hand, I'm gonna take a wild guess that the victims had everything sitting in their car in plain sight?


what's your point, County has a crap-ton of speeding tickets to write. they're not any better.
 
2011-07-02 02:42:07 PM
Call me unsympathetic but a stolen cellphone is hardly the crime of the century. I am sure the police were very busy investigating much more significant crimes. Plus these folks kind of brought it on themselves. Who the hell leaves a cell phone in their car or much less a laptop and whatever else electronics they had? Absolutely retarded.
 
2011-07-02 02:42:21 PM
www.virtual-history.com

Who's going to call the cops? The pidgeons or the rats?
 
2011-07-02 02:43:47 PM
why do you keep all that in your car ?they deserve what they get.stupid farkers
 
2011-07-02 02:45:34 PM

DavidVincent: Catching thieves does nothing for the pension fund.

Tickets are the cash cow.


I don't know what the deal is in Missouri; but here in kansas the police department that issues the ticket doesn't get any money from the fines; in fact the local police department has to buy the ticket books.

All the money goes to the state; who then distributes the money based in need. I forget the break down; but the local police are last on the list for a cut(by then there's usually nothing left).

\knowing is half the battle
 
2011-07-02 02:46:05 PM
The police in my town, San Antonio, have made it clear that property crimes are a low-priority issue. Highest priority goes to the revenue crimes - drugs and traffic tickets.

Safe to say that most police departments are like that now.
 
2011-07-02 02:47:54 PM

adammpower: earthworm2.0: Welcome to St. Louis. The armpit of the united states. My moms house was repeatedly robbed, cars broken into, stole my sons pool out of the back yard.... something like 11 incidents in one year. Cops did not care. But were very interested in arresting me because they thought my tags were illegal. If it does not bring in revenue for them, they aren't interested. And the corruption is so extensive that no one can even step in and fight. Id move, but all my family is here ...

All our family is there too, we really felt divided about leaving. 2.5 years-post escape, I can say it was the wisest thing we've ever done.


Soon. Very soon. I'll escape. Take my boy, head..... somewhere else. Just don't know where.... maybe flagstaff.... definitely not Texas or Florida. Maybe ill request asylum in another country....
 
2011-07-02 02:50:49 PM
I probably would have tracked them down myself, then called the police to inform them they better get here quick before I have to stop the person from leaving myself. No, its ok, im not worried, im armed. *hang up*.

I hear they come faster when this happens.
 
2011-07-02 02:51:16 PM
Vigilante justice is cool but you gotta supply your own knobs!
 
2011-07-02 02:53:56 PM
Don't worry St. Louis. After laying off half the police force Camden, New Jersey will retake its rightful place as the country's most dangerous city.
 
2011-07-02 02:54:52 PM

earthworm2.0: adammpower: earthworm2.0: Welcome to St. Louis. The armpit of the united states. My moms house was repeatedly robbed, cars broken into, stole my sons pool out of the back yard.... something like 11 incidents in one year. Cops did not care. But were very interested in arresting me because they thought my tags were illegal. If it does not bring in revenue for them, they aren't interested. And the corruption is so extensive that no one can even step in and fight. Id move, but all my family is here ...

All our family is there too, we really felt divided about leaving. 2.5 years-post escape, I can say it was the wisest thing we've ever done.

Soon. Very soon. I'll escape. Take my boy, head..... somewhere else. Just don't know where.... maybe flagstaff.... definitely not Texas or Florida. Maybe ill request asylum in another country....


Best of luck to you. I had no real opinions about Des Moines before i took a job up here. Have really fell in love with the pace though. Nice people and great community to be in. Reminds me of a laid back small Euro-city a lot of days.
 
2011-07-02 02:54:58 PM
St. Louis?

i471.photobucket.com

/"roll 'em up"
 
2011-07-02 03:01:15 PM

Mister Pleco: [www.virtual-history.com image 431x600]

Who's going to call the cops? The pidgeons or the rats?


I don't wanna - run no more, but I know that if I stop
I'll be another nubian headed to heaven, hangin with 'Pac
These motherfarkers look at me like I'm a slanger
Makin threats to my family, dawg I'm in danger
Who do you call when these agents want you dead
and they hit these penetentiaries and nubians make a pledge
So I dip and duck the feds, all my homies duck out on indictments
Caught up on the phone, talkin prices (hello)
25-to-life's the mandatory minimal
My whole community gets treated like they criminals
Why are them biatches gettin' motherfarkers hung
Got a C.I. on the inside and everybody's sung
Mothers and fathers seperated from they sons
Households are broken, you couldn't hold your tongue
If it's yours, say it's yours, take the case, do your time
When you was out here gettin' money from it everything was fine
Now you cryin' in your jail cell, stressin' on the case
And the D.A. is at a nubian every single day
I can see it in your face, in the middle of your soul
You in question of your manhood homey - keep it cold

We don't talk to police, we don't make a peace bond
We don't trust in the judicial system, we shoot guns
We rely on the streets we do battle in the hood
I was born in the G Code, embedded in my blood


Been vigilante justice around Nawlins for a good while now.
 
2011-07-02 03:09:14 PM
Here's a dollar. Thanks for nothing.

nsa01.casimages.com
 
2011-07-02 03:13:23 PM
No glory or assets to seize, why bother.
 
2011-07-02 03:13:31 PM
This is a typical response from police concerning stolen property.
 
2011-07-02 03:13:32 PM

barneyrubble: why do you keep all that in your car ?they deserve what they get.stupid farkers


Sometimes you need to leave stuff in your locked car. Moran.
 
2011-07-02 03:15:05 PM
"Why didn't you seize the moment when we pretty much gift-wrapped a pretty good lead for you?" Keith asked, describing the experience to a reporter. "It was just astonishing. You'd think they'd take it a little more seriously to curtail the crime downtown."
He should just be patient. In fact, my understanding is that four additional detectives are on the case, and they're working in shifts.

/Why do we pay taxes again?
//Oh, yeah, so we don't have to live in SOMAL1A!!SHIFT1
 
2011-07-02 03:15:43 PM

cantsleep: barneyrubble: why do you keep all that in your car ?they deserve what they get.stupid farkers

Sometimes you need to leave stuff in your locked car. Moran.


You didn't get the optional trunk with yours I take it.
 
2011-07-02 03:19:55 PM
as I was reading the FA, AC/DC's "Night Powler" came on. Kick etc.
 
2011-07-02 03:27:25 PM
I was in a bar one night. 4 thugs with guns came in, took wallets, purses, cell phones from everyone there, about 30-40 people. At least one of the cell phones they took had GPS tracking. The cops didn't do anything to follow up on it.

Cops don't give a damn about catching thieves.
 
2011-07-02 03:29:07 PM
"Leads, yeah, sure. I'll just check with the boys down at the crime lab, they've got four more detectives working on the case. They got us working in shifts!"
 
2011-07-02 03:29:19 PM
Gun nut thread! I took a 4-hour gun safety course, so fark cops!
 
2011-07-02 03:30:53 PM

cantsleep: barneyrubble: why do you keep all that in your car ?they deserve what they get.stupid farkers

Sometimes you need to leave stuff in your locked car. Moran.


Leaving a $4000 camera in your car in a parking lot at a baseball game in friggen St Louis is beyond stupid. They knew where they were going. They should have removed the camera beforehand or taken the damned thing into the game with them. I bet they left it sitting right on the f*cking seat too.

These people have more money than sense. They're probably obnoxious whitey b*tches and that's why the cop sluffed it off.
 
Zel
2011-07-02 03:35:42 PM

WTFDYW: cantsleep: barneyrubble: why do you keep all that in your car ?they deserve what they get.stupid farkers

Sometimes you need to leave stuff in your locked car. Moran.

You didn't get the optional trunk with yours I take it.


Nope. Minivans and wagons dont have trunks.

Not everyone lives your life.
 
2011-07-02 03:39:17 PM

Zel: Not everyone lives your life.


You mean one that involves common sense?
 
2011-07-02 03:46:54 PM

WTFDYW: cantsleep: barneyrubble: why do you keep all that in your car ?they deserve what they get.stupid farkers

Sometimes you need to leave stuff in your locked car. Moran.

You didn't get the optional trunk with yours I take it.


Most cars I've been in lately have a lever to open the trunk inside the driving compartment so your implication that a guy who's willing to break a window to get into your car is going to not bother steal what's in the trunk as well seems a little off to me.
 
2011-07-02 03:47:00 PM
Well if you are stupid enough to keep that much crap in your car when in the city for a game...

Seriously stupid. Hope they have home/rentors insurance.
 
2011-07-02 03:50:26 PM

mac chaddy: Vigilante justice is cool but you gotta supply your own knobs!


You let me down, man! Now I don't believe in nothin'! I'm goin' to law school!

static.tvfanatic.com
 
2011-07-02 03:51:11 PM
rollinsd.com

"We had many balls we were juggling in the air that night and we dropped one," the chief said.
phrasing

But, he added, "Many other balls were picked up that night and after."
PHRASING!
 
M-G
2011-07-02 04:00:42 PM

chairborne: Most cars I've been in lately have a lever to open the trunk inside the driving compartment so your implication that a guy who's willing to break a window to get into your car is going to not bother steal what's in the trunk as well seems a little off to me.


The point is that a thief isn't going to take the time to break the window unless they know there's something good there. If they can't see it, they don't know about it. I live in a low-crime area in the county, but the local police reports are filled with things getting stolen from cars. I can't recall one where it said something was taken from the trunk.
 
2011-07-02 04:01:06 PM

Poppa Boner: cantsleep: barneyrubble: why do you keep all that in your car ?they deserve what they get.stupid farkers

Sometimes you need to leave stuff in your locked car. Moran.

Leaving a $4000 camera in your car in a parking lot at a baseball game in friggen St Louis is beyond stupid. They knew where they were going. They should have removed the camera beforehand or taken the damned thing into the game with them. I bet they left it sitting right on the f*cking seat too.

These people have more money than sense. They're probably obnoxious whitey b*tches and that's why the cop sluffed it off.


Or.. maybe they brought the camera to the game, left it, the laptop and cell phone in the trunk of their locked car, and still had the stuff stolen. I can make up scenarios for my point as well.
Short of locking their stuff in a bank safe deposit box while they are downtown, what does FARK suggest they do with it?
 
2011-07-02 04:04:08 PM

cantsleep: Poppa Boner: cantsleep: barneyrubble: why do you keep all that in your car ?they deserve what they get.stupid farkers

Sometimes you need to leave stuff in your locked car. Moran.

Leaving a $4000 camera in your car in a parking lot at a baseball game in friggen St Louis is beyond stupid. They knew where they were going. They should have removed the camera beforehand or taken the damned thing into the game with them. I bet they left it sitting right on the f*cking seat too.

These people have more money than sense. They're probably obnoxious whitey b*tches and that's why the cop sluffed it off.

Or.. maybe they brought the camera to the game, left it, the laptop and cell phone in the trunk of their locked car, and still had the stuff stolen. I can make up scenarios for my point as well.
Short of locking their stuff in a bank safe deposit box while they are downtown, what does FARK suggest they do with it?


There's a lot of bank robberies throughout the STL area too...
 
2011-07-02 04:04:46 PM
Perhaps if we spent 4.4 trillion on hiring and training police officers things would be a little different.
 
2011-07-02 04:05:53 PM

Poppa Boner: These people have more money than sense. They're probably obnoxious whitey b*tches and that's why the cop sluffed it off.


I'd call this a troll except I know there are too many liberal assholes out there who feel the same way... when black people run into trouble in a white neighbourhood it's a civil rights violation, but when white people run into trouble in a black neighbourhood it's their own damn stupidity / a payback for slavery / pretty damn funny.
 
2011-07-02 04:11:21 PM

cantsleep: Or.. maybe they brought the camera to the game, left it, the laptop and cell phone in the trunk of their locked car, and still had the stuff stolen. I can make up scenarios for my point as well.
Short of locking their stuff in a bank safe deposit box while they are downtown, what does FARK suggest they do with it?



Leave it at home. Very simple. And I highly doubt they thieves jacked the truck. They are going to look for easy targets... like expensive electronics sitting in plain view.

C'mon man... I'm from friggen' Canada and I'm not naive enough to think leaving valuables in the car for extended periods is a good idea.

How about this... would you leave your kid alone in a park for hours on end knowing it's frequented by pedos? Same thing.

Common sense, b*tches! IT WORKS!
 
2011-07-02 04:12:32 PM
Biggest problem St.Louis police (both city and county) is recent growth in burglaries during the day when people are not home. And the reason for this?

Heroin

In my south city neighborhood this spring we had a series of breakins...guess what? The guys were white and from Jeff Co and hooked on heroin.

Now theyre copper off houses in my neighborhood...pickup driving around neighborhood looking at houses with guys that got caught in the act...guess what? Jeff Co white heroin abusers.

There is no justification for crime or lazy cops...but I think they are really stretched.

And as well...county cop friend said 65 car breakins in Town and Country last week. Funny how that doesn't make the news.
 
2011-07-02 04:14:22 PM

alltandubh: Poppa Boner: These people have more money than sense. They're probably obnoxious whitey b*tches and that's why the cop sluffed it off.

I'd call this a troll except I know there are too many liberal assholes out there who feel the same way... when black people run into trouble in a white neighbourhood it's a civil rights violation, but when white people run into trouble in a black neighbourhood it's their own damn stupidity / a payback for slavery / pretty damn funny.


And I'd call that a counter troll but herpa derpa derpity dooooo!
 
2011-07-02 04:16:25 PM

Reasonable in my own Right: Mister Pleco: [www.virtual-history.com image 431x600]

Who's going to call the cops? The pidgeons or the rats?

I don't wanna - run no more, but I know that if I stop
I'll be another nubian headed to heaven, hangin with 'Pac
These motherfarkers look at me like I'm a slanger
Makin threats to my family, dawg I'm in danger
Who do you call when these agents want you dead
and they hit these penetentiaries and nubians make a pledge
So I dip and duck the feds, all my homies duck out on indictments
Caught up on the phone, talkin prices (hello)
25-to-life's the mandatory minimal
My whole community gets treated like they criminals
Why are them biatches gettin' motherfarkers hung
Got a C.I. on the inside and everybody's sung
Mothers and fathers seperated from they sons
Households are broken, you couldn't hold your tongue
If it's yours, say it's yours, take the case, do your time
When you was out here gettin' money from it everything was fine
Now you cryin' in your jail cell, stressin' on the case
And the D.A. is at a nubian every single day
I can see it in your face, in the middle of your soul
You in question of your manhood homey - keep it cold

We don't talk to police, we don't make a peace bond
We don't trust in the judicial system, we shoot guns
We rely on the streets we do battle in the hood
I was born in the G Code, embedded in my blood

Been vigilante justice around Nawlins for a good while now.


Geto Boys: paragons of civic duty.

/good song. shocked to hear it sampled in a Chrysler ad.
//Bloody Nickel represent!
 
2011-07-02 04:20:55 PM

JuggleGeek: I was in a bar one night. 4 thugs with guns came in, took wallets, purses, cell phones from everyone there, about 30-40 people. At least one of the cell phones they took had GPS tracking. The cops didn't do anything to follow up on it.

Cops don't give a damn about catching thieves.


Guess what? Some cell phone companies (Cricket, for one) won't cooperate with the police.

We had an armed robbery a while back where the bad guys took an employee's cell phone. I don't remember the carrier, but I immediately called them. After talking to about five people, I got one person to actually give me the location of the cell phone. "It's within 200 meters of this address" is what I got. 200 meters? That's an entire city block. We went to that location but found nothing to help us, and the people that lived at the address they gave were an old couple that had nothing to do with the robbery.

Other cell phone companies are great. We had a high school kid report his stolen (Verizon, I think) and the cell company said "The person who has it is walking westbound on the north side of such and such street and he just crossed such and such." We go there, see a kid walking along with a backpack and find the stolen phone in the kid's backpack.

In the article the cops should have had someone follow up on that right away. It sounds like they were pretty overwhelmed at the time though. I imagine every person that found out their car had been broken into made that discovery at about the same time, so that kept them pretty busy, not to mention all the other stuff going on in St. Louis at the time.

Why would someone leave a cell phone in a car anyhow? They fit in your damn pocket. Take it with you.
 
2011-07-02 04:24:08 PM

Poppa Boner: Leave it at home. Very simple. ...
C'mon man... I'm from friggen' Canada and I'm not naive enough to think leaving valuables in the car for extended periods is a good idea.

Common sense, b*tches! IT WORKS!


Yes you're so right. Blame the victim. BLAME THE VICTIM! GOD DAMN VICTIMS! THEY'RE SO SMUG!

Do you actually know why they had the professional-quality camera equipment at the ball game? Hmm? No? Turns out you don't have the full story, and you jumped to stupid conclusions because you're stupid.

Let me make it easy for you to tell when you're being an asshat: if you ever feel the need to cite "common sense", you're probably wrong. Common sense is what lets you feel smug when you don't know what's actually going on.

/ welcome to ignore list, also, dipshiat
 
2011-07-02 04:28:48 PM

Poppa Boner: And I'd call that a counter troll but herpa derpa derpity dooooo!


What are you, Fred Flintstone? Speak proper English motherf*cker.
 
2011-07-02 04:31:27 PM

Captain Wingo: / welcome to ignore list, also, dipshiat


OMG!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
 
2011-07-02 04:35:19 PM

alltandubh: Poppa Boner: And I'd call that a counter troll but herpa derpa derpity dooooo!

What are you, Fred Flintstone? Speak proper English motherf*cker.


I just read your profile. I figured you'd be well versed in troglodyte communications.
 
2011-07-02 04:40:31 PM
GookNukem:

/good song. shocked to hear it sampled in a Chrysler ad.

I liked when some banking firm used "Lust for Life" for their ad plug. When I see power brokers making power broker deals, I think heroin.
 
2011-07-02 04:42:09 PM
These guys were breaking into cars, looking into the glove box, other compartments, under the seats, etc. Cops said they were most likely looking for guns. They left stuff in many of the cars including GPS's and phones. Thus the gun theory. That's what the cops said anyway.

Just walked around there today. A dying downtown.
 
2011-07-02 04:47:57 PM
It is St. Louis, subs. If you think you can see the arch, it's probably just a half burned down McDonald's.
 
2011-07-02 04:48:50 PM

barneyrubble: why do you keep all that in your car ?


This. It's not a secret downtown STL has plenty of crime. The article says the theft was near Union Station. This map doesn't mention it, but there was a shooting at the station 2 or three years ago. Non the less, check this out:
Crime, baby! (new window)
 
2011-07-02 04:49:05 PM
Did somebody mention vigilante justice?
news.bbc.co.uk
 
2011-07-02 04:49:21 PM

adammpower: Subby & 30 year former resident that bailed on this city...it's rapidly becoming a third world hole with a really nice Arch. :(


Saw it from the air. It has the biggest cemetery I've ever seen. People seem to have a cemetery fetish in that part of the country... you find the damn things everywhere.
 
2011-07-02 04:50:59 PM
I used to live in North County. I wouldn't want to leave a $4000 car parked downtown, let alone have $4000 of anything in it. You don't want to even leave stray pennies on the floorboards.

How much does a used GPS go for at a pawn shop? $10? Barely worth stealing.
 
2011-07-02 04:53:09 PM
 
2011-07-02 05:04:22 PM

Poppa Boner: Captain Wingo: / welcome to ignore list, also, dipshiat

OMG!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!


Really? Ignore list?

What a pussy.
 
2011-07-02 05:07:44 PM

bigpete53: Really? Ignore list?

What a pussy.


IKNORITE!!!

Also what he said didn't make a whole f*ck of a lot of sense.

Someone should sponsor him.
 
2011-07-02 05:21:11 PM

adammpower: Subby & 30 year former resident that bailed on this city...it's rapidly becoming a third world hole with a really nice Arch. :(


There's a nicer version to the west, about 200 miles or so...
 
2011-07-02 05:25:23 PM
Police Chief Dan Isom acknowledged Friday that his department erred on several fronts in responding to the victims' calls.

But so what because YOU CAN'T TELL US ANYTHING. WE'RE THE LAW! Sh*t for brains pinheads, but THE LAW!
 
2011-07-02 06:02:46 PM

Captain Wingo: Let me make it easy for you to tell when you're being an asshat: if you ever feel the need to cite "common sense", you're probably wrong. Common sense is what lets you feel smug when you don't know what's actually going on.


You should check out this thread (new window) in TotalFark. You've been sponsored, and this thread is just for you.
 
2011-07-02 06:10:02 PM

bigpete53: Poppa Boner: Captain Wingo: / welcome to ignore list, also, dipshiat

OMG!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Really? Ignore list?

What a pussy.


That's... the only thing you have to say on the whole topic? Your entire opinion is that I should keep feeding trolls and arguing with morons? And in lieu of some rationale for why I should behave differently, you call me a name?

Doesn't really make sense. Guess I touched a nerve, eh? Or are you a second account of the first guy? Whatever.

I generally tell people they're ignored so that they don't keep wasting their time crafting snarky replies I won't see. There's plenty of internet tough guys like you that they should be replying to instead. I know that makes me seem less masculine on the internet, but I'm pretty secure in my gender identity. That's not a very good way to ruffle me.

A tip for your next alt account: you should use some of those silly debate terms like "post hoc ergo propter hoc" to rebut my points, I can never keep those things straight and it flusters me; easily the best way to troll me.

/ yes yes, welcome to ignore list
 
2011-07-02 06:11:31 PM
there are places in the US where law and order have broken down. It's silly to blame the police for this.
 
2011-07-02 06:18:39 PM

AcneVulgaris: adammpower: Subby & 30 year former resident that bailed on this city...it's rapidly becoming a third world hole with a really nice Arch. :(

Saw it from the air. It has the biggest cemetery I've ever seen. People seem to have a cemetery fetish in that part of the country... you find the damn things everywhere.


There's lots and lots and lots and lots of Catholics, they like ceremonial things like weddings, mock-drowning recently born infants that were not aborted and burying dead relatives' corpses in perfectly good ground.

there's also a giant military cemetery in the south part of the area.
 
2011-07-02 06:26:10 PM

calbert: St. Louis?

[i471.photobucket.com image 378x195]

/"roll 'em up"


East St. Louis a whole different world, in Illinois
 
2011-07-02 06:27:39 PM
 
2011-07-02 06:29:41 PM
Approves:

captainsofcomedy.files.wordpress.com

Wiggum: Can't anybody in this town take the law into their own hands?
 
2011-07-02 06:38:59 PM

Captain Wingo: Poppa Boner: Leave it at home. Very simple. ...
C'mon man... I'm from friggen' Canada and I'm not naive enough to think leaving valuables in the car for extended periods is a good idea.

Common sense, b*tches! IT WORKS!

Yes you're so right. Blame the victim. BLAME THE VICTIM! GOD DAMN VICTIMS! THEY'RE SO SMUG!

Do you actually know why they had the professional-quality camera equipment at the ball game? Hmm? No? Turns out you don't have the full story, and you jumped to stupid conclusions because you're stupid.

Let me make it easy for you to tell when you're being an asshat: if you ever feel the need to cite "common sense", you're probably wrong. Common sense is what lets you feel smug when you don't know what's actually going on.

/ welcome to ignore list, also, dipshiat


Hey, you're wanted over in Total Fark Discussion. There's even a welcome thread for you.
 
2011-07-02 07:01:03 PM
 
2011-07-02 07:02:53 PM
"Why didn't you seize the moment when we pretty much gift-wrapped a pretty good lead for you?" Keith asked, describing the experience to a reporter. "It was just astonishing. You'd think they'd take it a little more seriously to curtail the crime downtown."

Because in a city with murders, armed robbery, burglary, and oodles of crackheads, nobody is going to waste time chasing down a cell phone that you were stupid enough to leave in plain sight in your car. Next time, try not to be such a dumbass.
 
2011-07-02 07:12:18 PM

Poppa Boner: alltandubh: Poppa Boner: These people have more money than sense. They're probably obnoxious whitey b*tches and that's why the cop sluffed it off.

I'd call this a troll except I know there are too many liberal assholes out there who feel the same way... when black people run into trouble in a white neighbourhood it's a civil rights violation, but when white people run into trouble in a black neighbourhood it's their own damn stupidity / a payback for slavery / pretty damn funny.

And I'd call that a counter troll but herpa derpa derpity dooooo!


Because any non-liberal viewpoint on fark must be trolling...
 
2011-07-02 07:29:08 PM

meow76: Because any non-liberal viewpoint on fark must be trolling...


Well he's either a troll or an idiot. How's about you?
 
2011-07-02 07:49:04 PM
adammpower: Best of luck to you. I had no real opinions about Des Moines before i took a job up here. Have really fell in love with the pace though. Nice people and great community to be in. Reminds me of a laid back small Euro-city a lot of days.

Six years ago, we had a rash of car burglaries in the Sherman Hill area of Des Moines. They broke into my car four or five times, once stealing my flashlight to took around in the SUV parked next to my car in a lighted, off street parking lot behind our building. At no time could the Des Moines PD be bothered to come out. Then two blocks over, the car of a lesbian couple got hit and there were five cop cars on scene and TV cameras from all three stations. Why? Well, it's a "hate crime" now. fark that, how is it different that the crooks hated I had something they wanted and took it?
 
2011-07-02 07:56:39 PM
ontheoutsidecorner.files.wordpress.com

What stealing in St. Louis might look like.
 
2011-07-02 07:59:15 PM
CSB time, vigilante division:

Thirty some years ago a kid who worked for my dad in Mason City, IA, had his motorcycle stolen from his garage one night. A few days later, he hears it might have been done by a guy a couple of blocks from his house. He waits until the guy has left for work and goes over to look in the window of the guy's garage, Yup, his bike is in there, but the garage is locked up tight.

So, he goes to the cops and they tell him they cannot even go look as my friend's word is not probable cause. However, the desk sargent takes him aside and gives him a name and phone number of another guy. He tells the kid this guy, for $50 will break in and steal it back. The kid goes to the guy and talks with him, Then the guys tells him, "Yeah, for $50, I'll break-in and get your bike. Pay me $100 and I do that and kill the guy who stole it from you, too."

That was when the kid decided to just forget about the whole thing.
 
2011-07-02 08:05:27 PM

CruiserTwelve: Guess what? Some cell phone companies (Cricket, for one) won't cooperate with the police.


Irrelevant in this case, since the girl who knew they had her cell phone could log in online and tell where it was at. She tried to get the cops to go to that address and nab the thugs. The cops didn't care.

She also refused to give me the address, saying "No, the cops should handle this".
 
2011-07-02 08:51:14 PM
The largest demographic group in St Louis is what the news calls "youths" or "teens" ... so of course their police department is perpetually overwhelmed and incompetent.
 
2011-07-02 09:46:56 PM
Attention K Mart shoppers.

The police no longer give a William nor Nilliam f*ck about locating, retrieving or returning stolen property. There's no money in it.

If you have ever wanted to go on a house looting spree, this is your opportune time. The odds of you being noticed, pestered or caught are pretty much nil. Some people do, however, own guns, so you might get your brains turned into corned beef hash. This will, oddly, bring the police to arrest the persons defending their homes and property from you. God speed, morons.

PSA
 
2011-07-02 10:24:19 PM
Why has the crime rate dropped in the USA? Because the police won't record it or acknowledge it happens.
 
2011-07-02 10:47:59 PM
You know, add in that story from the other day where a small-town cop tazered a mentally disabled kid for 'disrespect'...the cops just aren't looking too good lately, are they?

/Only interaction out in NV is when my sister wandered off at age two.
//Cop brought her home and read my dad the riot act, so they're good in my book.
///Don't speed out here, though.
 
2011-07-02 11:05:53 PM

bluorangefyre: Did somebody mention vigilante justice?
[news.bbc.co.uk image 203x152]


I'll see your Paul Kersey and raise you one Frank Castle
i1185.photobucket.com
 
2011-07-02 11:07:50 PM
When making runs east to Washington U, I always putter along in the `86 Nissan Sentra (30mpg/somewhat rusty/beneath contempt - putzes won't even bother keying it).

Come the flood, I70 will be blockaded somewhere around Hawk Point, so all the Archers can just motate into Illinois on 70/64/55 - head West and they'll fall off the earth.

/turkey vultures for the win
 
2011-07-02 11:12:15 PM
If someone steals something of mine and I find them before the cops do it will resemble what happened to the card cheats in Casino.
 
2011-07-02 11:50:45 PM

Poppa Boner: meow76: Because any non-liberal viewpoint on fark must be trolling...

Well he's either a troll or an idiot. How's about you?


LOL.


Idiot troll is my guess
 
2011-07-03 12:12:37 AM

calbert: here4few: calbert: St. Louis?

[i471.photobucket.com image 378x195]

/"roll 'em up"

East St. Louis a whole different world, in Illinois

not according to Harold Ramis

At the time, a reader wrote-in and pointed out that the Griswolds are actually shown crossing the Mississippi River from the Illinois to the Missouri side before leaving the freeway and getting lost, therefore they couldn't possibly be in East St. Louis. However, as they're taking the exit, the camera cuts briefly to a freeway sign that says "East St. Louis." This geography mixup is pointed out in the "Goofs" section of the film's IMDB page, which also says the error has been edited out in some versions.

Here's what Ramis (the legend who also wrote and directed Ghostbusters, Caddyshack, and a dozen other classics) had to say about the sequence:

"They go over the [Poplar Street] bridge before it happens, so technically it would be in St. Louis," Ramis says of the scene in which Chase gets lost and prefaces his request for directions from the locals with an incomparably delivered "Excuse me, homes."

Many a moviegoer has misattributed the scene to East St. Louis, including writers at the New York Times and the Hollywood Reporter. (new window)


It's also like in Planes, Trains and Automobiles where a bus coming from Jefferson City, MO crosses the Poplar Street Bridge from Illinois into Missouri. Hollywood gets pretty creative with the geography sometimes.
 
2011-07-03 02:13:56 AM

adammpower: I had no real opinions about Des Moines before i took a job up here. Have really fell in love with the pace though. Nice people and great community to be in. Reminds me of a laid back small Euro-city a lot of days.


Shhhhh! Keep letting them think it's all corn and hicks!
 
2011-07-03 02:16:23 AM

JuggleGeek: CruiserTwelve: Guess what? Some cell phone companies (Cricket, for one) won't cooperate with the police.


Irrelevant in this case, since the girl who knew they had her cell phone could log in online and tell where it was at. She tried to get the cops to go to that address and nab the thugs. The cops didn't care.

She also refused to give me the address, saying "No, the cops should handle this".


I don't think it was a matter of "the cops don't care" as much as it was "we don't have enough cops to track down your cell phone right now."
 
2011-07-03 03:12:48 AM

Cross of Iron: I went out there last night and emerged unscathed. Of course, I was on historic Route 66 (Dunn Rd.) alongside 270.

Never go into downtown St. Louis alone. I went to Oktoberfest one year by myself and was amazed that I got out of Soulard.


Every night I put on my green BJC scrubs, head downtown alone (oh noes!) and take the train to the hospital. I grew up in a farm town in central IL where it is a base offense to bee rude to someone. I have quickly learned to tell gross guys to eff off, keep my back against post at all times and keep my good stuff hidden on my person. Out of towners and county dwellers are way too fearful of the city.
 
2011-07-03 03:17:27 AM

Rapmaster2000: "Why didn't you seize the moment when we pretty much gift-wrapped a pretty good lead for you?" Keith asked, describing the experience to a reporter. "It was just astonishing. You'd think they'd take it a little more seriously to curtail the crime downtown."

Because in a city with murders, armed robbery, burglary, and oodles of crackheads, nobody is going to waste time chasing down a cell phone that you were stupid enough to leave in plain sight in your car. Next time, try not to be such a dumbass.



This! If you are going to take your car downtown ( take the damn train!) then don't leave anything in it! Stupid.
 
2011-07-03 03:57:03 AM

CruiserTwelve: I don't think it was a matter of "the cops don't care" as much as it was "we don't have enough cops to track down your cell phone right now."


In my case, 4 thugs came into a bar, took wallets, purses, cell phones, etc from 30 to 40 people at gunpoint. (3 with pistols, one guy with a shotgun. All gang thugs wearing masks.) One of those cell phones was owned by a girl who know she could track it. She could give them an address. The cops didn't care.

That's not just a matter of "do we care to get your cell phone back", that's a matter of "do we care about catching armed thugs who are sticking guns in peoples faces".

A week after this happened, a very similar incident happened at another bar, except one of the customers tried to run, and they killed him.

I don't know if the thugs that robbed me and my friends are the same thugs that robbed the other bar and killed the guy. I doubt the cops know, either, since all the evidence is that the cops don't care.

Catching the real criminals, the kind that stick guns in peoples faces, isn't profitable, and it carries a much higher risk than writing out a ticket for speeding or "no seatbelt". So the cops let the real criminals go and harass everyone else.
 
2011-07-03 06:45:03 AM
JuggleGeek:

One of those cell phones was owned by a girl who know she could track it.

Are you sure they didn't try to track the cell phone? I find it hard to believe that cops wouldn't follow up on such a great lead on such a serious crime. I'm more inclined to think they tried to track the cell phone but found out it was turned off or smashed or something. Criminals know that cops can track cell phones and it's unlikely they'd keep one active for long.

Catching the real criminals, the kind that stick guns in peoples faces, isn't profitable, and it carries a much higher risk than writing out a ticket for speeding or "no seatbelt". So the cops let the real criminals go and harass everyone else.

Wow. Go ask any cop what he'd rather be doing: Catching armed bad guys or writing tickets. I guarantee you'll get 100% who answer that they'd rather be catching the bad guys. Do you think cops become cops because they want to raise revenue for their city? Cops are adrenaline junkies. They WANT to put themselves in harm's way to get their adrenaline fix.

The fact is, property crimes are hard to solve. It takes but a few seconds to smash a car window and reach in and grab something and run off. If there are no witnesses, there's almost nothing to follow up on. You come out in the morning and find that somebody has smashed your car window and took your radio, what do you realistically expect the cops to do? There are so many property crimes that cops can only follow up on the ones where there's a possibility of catching someone.
 
2011-07-03 07:24:34 AM
I live on the Lemp Neighborhood and the biggest crimes around here are DUIs, public disturbance/intoxication.... I love living in the city.

If my car was broken into i would be pissed but not nearly as pissed if they broke in my house or took the car with me in it. I would rather the cops be looking for murders and violent criminals rather than my cell phone. On the other hand when I am parking downtown I clean out my car and make sure nothing of monetary of value is there except the car itself.

I know the City of St Louis has it problems and I have lived and been to cities that have had their problems too.
 
2011-07-03 07:35:22 AM

ryanecandyce: I live on the Lemp Neighborhood and the biggest crimes around here are DUIs, public disturbance/intoxication.... I love living in the city.

If my car was broken into i would be pissed but not nearly as pissed if they broke in my house or took the car with me in it. I would rather the cops be looking for murders and violent criminals rather than my cell phone. On the other hand when I am parking downtown I clean out my car and make sure nothing of monetary of value is there except the car itself.

I know the City of St Louis has it problems and I have lived and been to cities that have had their problems too.


I live in Bevo. I fear my home being broken into. Mainly because I worry my cat would be hurt. I never feel unsafe walking around the city. I can't see ever selling out and moving to the county.
 
2011-07-03 08:17:56 AM

CruiserTwelve: You come out in the morning and find that somebody has smashed your car window and took your radio, what do you realistically expect the cops to do?


This may be budget heresy cause, surely, fingerprint kits cost about a billion dollars, now, but.. um, if you started dusting for prints at these things, don't you think it would help a lot to take those prints and match them to the national useless piece of sh*t punk assed criminal database and just maybe, find out who they are? Or is that too cost prohibitive? If so, why? It takes about 15 min to do, ya know? I don't think that's a ridiculous use of resources but I can't wait for the smirk brigade of GED detectives to log on here and almost explain why of COURSE it is.
 
2011-07-03 08:34:45 AM

MonkeyMeg: ryanecandyce: I live on the Lemp Neighborhood and the biggest crimes around here are DUIs, public disturbance/intoxication.... I love living in the city.

If my car was broken into i would be pissed but not nearly as pissed if they broke in my house or took the car with me in it. I would rather the cops be looking for murders and violent criminals rather than my cell phone. On the other hand when I am parking downtown I clean out my car and make sure nothing of monetary of value is there except the car itself.

I know the City of St Louis has it problems and I have lived and been to cities that have had their problems too.

I live in Bevo. I fear my home being broken into. Mainly because I worry my cat would be hurt. I never feel unsafe walking around the city. I can't see ever selling out and moving to the county.


I feel the same about my dogs. I would never give up being able to walk to cafes, bars or the wonderful antique stores. I walk my dogs every morning and every evening and have never had a problem. My biggest concern are the drunk drivers, especially on holiday weekends.
 
2011-07-03 09:27:28 AM

CruiserTwelve: Wow. Go ask any cop what he'd rather be doing: Catching armed bad guys or writing tickets. I guarantee you'll get 100% who answer that they'd rather be catching the bad guys. Do you think cops become cops because they want to raise revenue for their city? Cops are adrenaline junkies. They WANT to put themselves in harm's way to get their adrenaline fix.


Well, since we're generalizing: we work with a lot of 1st responders, and in my experience, that's not really true. Seems that FF's are in it for the heroics (real or otherwise) and want to be the guy rescuing damsels from the burning building, while cops are more interested in the power trip, being the guy in control, and if they can get it without actually risking anything, so much the better.

/personally I think paramedics are the best mix of brains & duty
 
2011-07-03 09:59:33 AM

JuggleGeek: CruiserTwelve: I don't think it was a matter of "the cops don't care" as much as it was "we don't have enough cops to track down your cell phone right now."

In my case, 4 thugs came into a bar, took wallets, purses, cell phones, etc from 30 to 40 people at gunpoint. (3 with pistols, one guy with a shotgun. All gang thugs wearing masks.) One of those cell phones was owned by a girl who know she could track it. She could give them an address. The cops didn't care.

That's not just a matter of "do we care to get your cell phone back", that's a matter of "do we care about catching armed thugs who are sticking guns in peoples faces".

A week after this happened, a very similar incident happened at another bar, except one of the customers tried to run, and they killed him.

I don't know if the thugs that robbed me and my friends are the same thugs that robbed the other bar and killed the guy. I doubt the cops know, either, since all the evidence is that the cops don't care.

Catching the real criminals, the kind that stick guns in peoples faces, isn't profitable, and it carries a much higher risk than writing out a ticket for speeding or "no seatbelt". So the cops let the real criminals go and harass everyone else.


Where in the hell was this at? They rob over 30 people at gunpoint and the cops shrug it off? I'm about to declare shenaningans. :)
 
2011-07-03 10:21:48 AM
So, essentially, unless there's enough armed, on duty cops at a place of business that is being robbed by thugs, you're sh*t out of luck and even if there ARE enoughon duty, armed cops there, you might get killed anyhow? Seriously? Aww come on. this is.. this wild west without the posse crap is the best we can do? Nah. Come ON! It's gotta be better than "Sorry, just give them what they want", doesn't it?
 
2011-07-03 12:42:39 PM

Mad Mark: Where in the hell was this at? They rob over 30 people at gunpoint and the cops shrug it off? I'm about to declare shenaningans. :)


Dallas. And fark you with your shenanagins bullshiat. All the cops did was show up 30 minutes after the fact (they got a phone call by someone in the parking lot when the thugs were walking in) to fill out paperwork.
 
2011-07-03 02:02:17 PM

JuggleGeek: All the cops did was show up 30 minutes after the fact to fill out paperwork.


Not just marginally capable journalists.. ARMED marginally capable journalists! You know what? If you motherf*ckers don't start doing some police work instead of farming incarceration revenue from potheads, planting dope in cars driven by people doing 38 in a 35 and cracking skulls on fourteen year old skateboarders, people are gonna start taking care of themselves. And if you think you got a lot of paperwork now, wait until the people who think that we should skip devolving into Mogadishu start stacking bodies up at your precinct load in door. "Being on the wrong side of the law" does NOT mean "failing to be another LEO". Toss us mere mortals a fish, will ya? Cause so far, we don't feel a lot safer standing in line at traffic court to buy you guys more stun guns.
 
2011-07-03 02:05:03 PM
We can't all be your captains doddering, gray haired old mother who needs four units in 3 minutes flat to rescue her from the obvious results of the fact that she can't drive anymore and make sure the person she hits gets cited. Some of us just pay your fu*king electricity bills but we could use a little police work, now and then, if you ain't too tied up with the sports page.
 
2011-07-03 03:09:59 PM

bunner: if you started dusting for prints at these things, don't you think it would help a lot to take those prints and match them to the national useless piece of sh*t punk assed criminal database and just maybe, find out who they are?


There are very few surfaces on a car that can be dusted for prints and most of the larceny from motor vehicle theives are high school aged kids whose fingerprints are unlikely to be in any database. Besides, fingerprint dust is permanent. It gets in your carpet and it's like dye - it doesn't come out. It can cause more damage than the thief did.

Finally, there is an economical factor. CSI techs usually stay plenty busy on serious crimes - if they were expected to work every single crime you'd have to hire a lot more, and buy them equipment, facilities, etc. In the end the time, expense and the very tiny probability of coming up with workable prints doesn't make it feasible. The best thing is to take preventative measures like not leaving valuables in your car and having insurance.
 
2011-07-03 03:19:57 PM

CruiserTwelve: Besides, fingerprint dust is permanent. It gets in your carpet and it's like dye - it doesn't come out. It can cause more damage than the thief did.


Wow. I had no idea.

CruiserTwelve: Finally, there is an economical factor. CSI techs usually stay plenty busy on serious crimes - if they were expected to work every single crime you'd have to hire a lot more, and buy them equipment, facilities, etc. In the end the time, expense and the very tiny probability of coming up with workable prints doesn't make it feasible. The best thing is to take preventative measures like not leaving valuables in your car and having insurance.


What, in your estimation, officer, would it take as far as available capital to make a mid sized city police force capale of dealing with crime on the level that people still think it should be able to, despite changing times? Cause all we see are officers working revenue streams and shrugging a lot and it's starting to make us think we got f*cked, frankly.
 
2011-07-03 03:27:04 PM
And how much of that do you think could be facilitated by simply making officers concentrate on criminal activity instead of playing favorites with friends and families of LEOs? And, for that matter, as long as fingerprinting has been around, has nobody worked on new base formulas and do we truly need expansive forensic facilities and specialists to process them accurately? Cause we got motherf*ckers floating around eating sammiches in orbit on a space station and pooping in zero G and I'm a little concerned about our scientific priorities.
 
2011-07-03 03:30:08 PM

JuggleGeek: Dallas. And fark you with your shenanagins bullshiat. All the cops did was show up 30 minutes after the fact (they got a phone call by someone in the parking lot when the thugs were walking in) to fill out paperwork.


Okay, I'M gonna call shenanigans on that one. An armed robbery by four guys with thirty victims and a good chance of tracking the guys, and all they did was show up thirty minutes later and fill out paperwork? Naw, didn't happen. At least not how you're describing it.

First of all, four guys aren't going to do an armed "take over" style of robbery at a bar. They're too likely to run into some drunk hero type and have to shoot someone, and the take from such a robbery would be small. Besides if it was in Texas I'd expect at least a couple people in the bar would be armed and there would likely be a shootout. That's the kind of robbery you do at a bank where the real money is, or in a movie.

That kind of robbery with that many victims would certainly be newsworthy. Find it and post a link or I'm not gonna believe it.
 
2011-07-03 03:46:36 PM
I think we have to take the B Movie criminal worship out of criminal behavior and stop worshiping nickel for six thugs. They're not romantic, They're not helping. They're telling you how cool it is to have everybody be afraid of you rather than respect you. Sound familiar? We can all do better than this. Just refuse to lower your standards. If you don't know how to do that, check out any bored lonely chick or guy who heads out of the bar alone on a Sat. night. Criminals are not heroes. They'd bone you up the shi*ter or punch your mother in the mouth for a wad of cash. Stop thinking that's cool. At the end of the day, the cast of the Godfather and Goodfellas and the characters they portrayed were a pack of sh*t for brains animals with no semblance of a conscience. Those aren't heroes. Depending on their level of decency, "F*ck tha police" is sometimes a useful response. "F*ck tha gangsters" always is. Here's the science. Until we change the game up and accept nothing less, we're gonna be stuck kissing somebody's ass, bandanna and a Glock or a badge and a Glock. Either way, we're nothing but back forty slaves.
 
2011-07-03 04:34:53 PM
STL crime update: Two men shot on Kingshighway (new window)

I bet I could post a new link every day of a shooting in the area.
 
2011-07-03 05:19:27 PM

Aulus: adammpower: Best of luck to you. I had no real opinions about Des Moines before i took a job up here. Have really fell in love with the pace though. Nice people and great community to be in. Reminds me of a laid back small Euro-city a lot of days.

Six years ago, we had a rash of car burglaries in the Sherman Hill area of Des Moines. They broke into my car four or five times, once stealing my flashlight to took around in the SUV parked next to my car in a lighted, off street parking lot behind our building. At no time could the Des Moines PD be bothered to come out. Then two blocks over, the car of a lesbian couple got hit and there were five cop cars on scene and TV cameras from all three stations. Why? Well, it's a "hate crime" now. fark that, how is it different that the crooks hated I had something they wanted and took it?


your chances of getting killed by those same thugs though are almost nothing. there's still some level of civility in that that STL hasn't had for a long time.
 
2011-07-03 06:11:44 PM

CruiserTwelve: Okay, I'M gonna call shenanigans on that one. An armed robbery by four guys with thirty victims and a good chance of tracking the guys, and all they did was show up thirty minutes later


Fark you.
 
2011-07-03 06:25:19 PM

CruiserTwelve: Find it and post a link or I'm not gonna believe it.


http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/news/Teens_Used_Shotgun_to_Rob_Bar

And fark you again. Bad enough that the cops waited so long to show up, and that they ignored the GPS info that would have led them to the thugs. I don't need some asshole like you telling me it didn't happen.

One odd thing - they took wallets, purses, cell phones. They didn't take the money from the cash register. I don't know why - my guess is that they are unorganized teen thugs who argued later "No, *you* were supposed to get the cash register."

At about the same time as this happened, there were several other bars robbed in a similar manner. No way for me to know if it was the same thugs or not. In one case, someone tried to run out of the bar and they killed him.

Texas law doesn't allow people to carry guns into bars, so only the thugs are armed.

After the fact, several of the regulars who have concealed carry permits started carrying in the bar anyway. Bar staff just pretended not to notice, so long as it was a regular with no history of causing trouble.
 
2011-07-03 07:39:24 PM
""We had many balls we were juggling in the air that night and we dropped one," the chief said. But, he added, "Many other balls were picked up that night and after."
Which explains why they were too busy to solve a very easy case.
 
2011-07-03 10:48:12 PM

JuggleGeek: CruiserTwelve: Find it and post a link or I'm not gonna believe it.

http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/news/Teens_Used_Shotgun_to_Rob_Bar

And fark you again. Bad enough that the cops waited so long to show up, and that they ignored the GPS info that would have led them to the thugs. I don't need some asshole like you telling me it didn't happen.

One odd thing - they took wallets, purses, cell phones. They didn't take the money from the cash register. I don't know why - my guess is that they are unorganized teen thugs who argued later "No, *you* were supposed to get the cash register."

At about the same time as this happened, there were several other bars robbed in a similar manner. No way for me to know if it was the same thugs or not. In one case, someone tried to run out of the bar and they killed him.

Texas law doesn't allow people to carry guns into bars, so only the thugs are armed.

After the fact, several of the regulars who have concealed carry permits started carrying in the bar anyway. Bar staff just pretended not to notice, so long as it was a regular with no history of causing trouble.


Remind me never to move to Dallas.
 
2011-07-04 06:17:09 AM

JuggleGeek: And fark you again. Bad enough that the cops waited so long to show up, and that they ignored the GPS info that would have led them to the thugs. I don't need some asshole like you telling me it didn't happen.


I looked at your link and did some research myself, and didn't see anything about the cops taking 30 minutes to get there and just taking a report, or anything about them ignoring the possibility of tracking a cell phone to catch the bad guys. Also, of all the articles I looked at in my research, I didn't see a single one where someone ran out of a bar and got killed.

By the way, you need to do something about your anger management isues.
 
2011-07-04 07:15:25 AM

MonkeyMeg: I live in Bevo. I fear my home being broken into. Mainly because I worry my cat would be hurt. I never feel unsafe walking around the city. I can't see ever selling out and moving to the county.


Selling out? That is the silliest thing I have read in a while.

If you had kids, you wouldn't consider it selling out. It would be a wise move.

/SLPS is awful
 
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