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(MSNBC)   American beer market hasn't gotten its fizz back...or taste   (msnbc.msn.com) divider line 104
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2011-07-01 09:01:39 AM
too early for a beer snob thread.
 
2011-07-01 09:02:03 AM
It's never too early for a beer snob thread.
 
2011-07-01 09:02:28 AM

Andrew Wiggin: too early for a beer snob thread.


i30.photobucket.com
 
2011-07-01 09:03:02 AM
I am doing my part, Subby, but I am only one man.
 
2011-07-01 09:03:09 AM

Andrew Wiggin: too early for a beer snob thread.


It's a Friday, dammit. Party on!

/and a hearty 'Screw you' to subby
//probably a filthy Canadian
 
2011-07-01 09:05:35 AM
"I like beer"

"no you don't, that's not beer, this is beer"

"Isn't beer=beer?"

"[comment about how American lager is piss, and only Belgian monks make anything worth drinking]"


[various jpgs of craftbrews along with bravado over mass consumption of ales with high alcohol content and dark color]
 
2011-07-01 09:06:00 AM
Certainly runs counter to prevailing wisdom.
 
2011-07-01 09:06:54 AM

Jake Havechek: "I like beer"

"no you don't, that's not beer, this is beer"

"Isn't beer=beer?"

"[comment about how American lager is piss, and only Belgian monks make anything worth drinking]"


[various jpgs of craftbrews along with bravado over mass consumption of ales with high alcohol content and dark color]


*shotguns Natty Light*
 
2011-07-01 09:06:59 AM
i55.tinypic.com
 
2011-07-01 09:07:23 AM

Jake Havechek: "I like beer"


It makes me a jolly good fellow.

(I was singing that this morning. Weird.)
 
2011-07-01 09:09:55 AM
This doesn't look like a beer snob thread. No pics and too early in the morning...
 
2011-07-01 09:09:57 AM

Jake Havechek: "I like beer"

"no you don't, that's not beer, this is beer"

"Isn't beer=beer?"

"[comment about how American lager is piss, and only Belgian monks make anything worth drinking]"


[various jpgs of craftbrews along with bravado over mass consumption of ales with high alcohol content and dark color]


I'd take a Sam Adams Boston Lager over some translucent belgian pisswater any day.
 
2011-07-01 09:11:30 AM
 
2011-07-01 09:12:51 AM

StaleCoffee: Jake Havechek: "I like beer"

"no you don't, that's not beer, this is beer"

"Isn't beer=beer?"

"[comment about how American lager is piss, and only Belgian monks make anything worth drinking]"


[various jpgs of craftbrews along with bravado over mass consumption of ales with high alcohol content and dark color]

I'd take a Sam Adams Boston Lager over some translucent belgian pisswater any day.


You think you're too good for Black Label, huh?
 
2011-07-01 09:14:01 AM
Perhaps doing things like offering less product for the same or more money might have not been the right move....

There's a little place in Hell for whoever first opened their mouth and said "We could just offer it as a 4-pack instead...."
 
2011-07-01 09:14:23 AM

StaleCoffee: I'd take a Sam Adams Boston Lager over some translucent belgian pisswater any day.


What a translucent Belgian pisswater might look like:

www.babble.com
 
2011-07-01 09:14:38 AM
Obligatory comment on how Budweiser is Belgian now.
 
2011-07-01 09:16:21 AM

duckpoopy: StaleCoffee: Jake Havechek: "I like beer"

"no you don't, that's not beer, this is beer"

"Isn't beer=beer?"

"[comment about how American lager is piss, and only Belgian monks make anything worth drinking]"


[various jpgs of craftbrews along with bravado over mass consumption of ales with high alcohol content and dark color]

I'd take a Sam Adams Boston Lager over some translucent belgian pisswater any day.

You think you're too good for Black Label, huh?


I took that as him pointing out that Anheiseur-Bush is a Belgian company (InBev). Like Miller is a UK company (SAB) and Coors is a Canadian company (Molsen). Sam Adams is the largest American brewer left.
 
2011-07-01 09:16:57 AM

Dr. Manhattan: Obligatory comment on how Budweiser is Belgian now.


15 seconds too late, sir.
 
2011-07-01 09:17:33 AM

duckpoopy: StaleCoffee: Jake Havechek: "I like beer"

"no you don't, that's not beer, this is beer"

"Isn't beer=beer?"

"[comment about how American lager is piss, and only Belgian monks make anything worth drinking]"


[various jpgs of craftbrews along with bravado over mass consumption of ales with high alcohol content and dark color]

I'd take a Sam Adams Boston Lager over some translucent belgian pisswater any day.

You think you're too good for Black Label, huh?


Only in public.
 
2011-07-01 09:19:12 AM
Three reasons beer sales are down:

Anheuser-Busch Inbev SA
MillerCoors
MolsonCoors

Making good-quality, affordable beer has very little to do with buying up competitors (half-way around the world sometimes).

I either buy small brewery beers or make my own. Conglomerate share-holders can just shove their dividends.
 
2011-07-01 09:22:17 AM
www.switchbladecomb.com

always a good time
 
2011-07-01 09:23:27 AM
Idk, Subby, this company seems to be doing fairly well:

www.americanmadeheroes.com
 
2011-07-01 09:24:33 AM
If you can't find a good beer in America, you are obviously not shopping in the right place. You should stop getting your beer from the gas station and find a proper distributor. Dogfish Head, Troegs, Straub, Erie Brewing Co., Great Lakes, the list goes on.
 
2011-07-01 09:25:14 AM
Andrew Wiggin
too early for a beer snob thread.

What still hung over?
 
2011-07-01 09:26:43 AM

McManus_brothers: Idk, Subby, this company seems to be doing fairly well:


they are FINALLY selling to ohio starting in october. now we're up to 2 good things about ohio.

Random Anonymous Blackmail: What still hung over?


9 beers after giving blood yesterday probably wasn't my most cunning plan.
 
2011-07-01 09:28:39 AM

treecologist: I am doing my part, Subby, but I am only one man.


Me too. Total coincidence.

TheShavingofOccam123: I either buy small brewery beers or make my own. Conglomerate share-holders can just shove their dividends.


I mostly make my own. My in-laws are coming for the weekend and they will quickly consume the homebrews I have stocked up. My neighbor has a kegerator so I am pitching in on a keg of Sam Adams Summer Ale with him. Hopefully we won't run out.
 
2011-07-01 09:30:43 AM

Andrew Wiggin: McManus_brothers: Idk, Subby, this company seems to be doing fairly well:

they are FINALLY selling to ohio starting in october. now we're up to 2 good things about ohio.

Random Anonymous Blackmail: What still hung over?

9 beers after giving blood yesterday probably wasn't my most cunning plan.


That doesn't make any sense, as the only other good thing about Ohio is not having to live there.
 
2011-07-01 09:32:28 AM
I've been working out and eating healthier in an attempt to drop the extra forty pounds my fat ass is carrying around. I've tried to cut back my beer consumption to 6-12 per week. I was told on some fitness boards to go with the 55 Calorie Bud or some other low calorie beer. That just isn't going to happen I'd rather drink a couple Saint Arnold Summer Pils or Fancy Lawnmowers and lose weight more slowly that drink beer flavored water.

I could also kill for a Saranac Black Forest about now. They really need to expand their distribution to Texas.
 
2011-07-01 09:33:14 AM

Frosty_Icehole: Andrew Wiggin: McManus_brothers: Idk, Subby, this company seems to be doing fairly well:

they are FINALLY selling to ohio starting in october. now we're up to 2 good things about ohio.

Random Anonymous Blackmail: What still hung over?

9 beers after giving blood yesterday probably wasn't my most cunning plan.

That doesn't make any sense, as the only other good thing about Ohio is not having to live there.


well they soon will have a statue of Lebron James not winning the championship in miami, that will be something to see
 
2011-07-01 09:33:21 AM

StaleCoffee: Jake Havechek: "I like beer"

"no you don't, that's not beer, this is beer"

"Isn't beer=beer?"

"[comment about how American lager is piss, and only Belgian monks make anything worth drinking]"


[various jpgs of craftbrews along with bravado over mass consumption of ales with high alcohol content and dark color]

I'd take a Sam Adams Boston Lager over some translucent belgian pisswater any day.


Amen. Not into that Chimay type stuff either. My buddy said to pick out a good beer out of my fridge of about 7 kinds. I gave him the Boston Lager. Boom!! He said "Fu[king A, good stuff!" Then he told me to get something else. Sam Adams Cherry Wheat. Yum! Then a Sierra Nevada Pale Ale. Yum. Then, my absolute fave, Samuel Smith TaddyPorter, conceptual bedrock! Friends don't let friends drink Budweiser. I have volunteered at the GABF in Denver for several years. It gets a little crazy, but most people trade ideas and talk frankly about their experiences, share ideas. Lots of constructive things going on. Good freebies to be had. Limited edition goodies and shirts. I volunteer for the Fri night tasting, pouring for the guests. Then work Sat Day Judging, then come back in the hall Sat night, and run around sampling the medal winners. Truly a blast. Drew needs to come! You ARE allowed to drink at the booth where you pour for the people.

http://www.greatamericanbeerfestival.com 2000+ beers!

Tomorrow we throw around some blue nose Scotch Whiskey blue nose ideas.
 
2011-07-01 09:36:12 AM

Frosty_Icehole: That doesn't make any sense, as the only other good thing about Ohio is not having to live there.


not entirely true. the other good thing about ohio is the different varieties of sheep. i'm always getting laid.
 
2011-07-01 09:36:35 AM
My Oldest is in Russia for 3 months. Loves the city he's in. Hates the people (rude as shiat) the food (takes mystery meat to a whole new level) but says the beer is better than they general offerings in the States. Go figure.
 
2011-07-01 09:39:45 AM
Abita. Eff you ,Subby.
 
2011-07-01 09:40:00 AM

armoredbulldozer: StaleCoffee: Jake Havechek: "I like beer"

"no you don't, that's not beer, this is beer"

"Isn't beer=beer?"

"[comment about how American lager is piss, and only Belgian monks make anything worth drinking]"


[various jpgs of craftbrews along with bravado over mass consumption of ales with high alcohol content and dark color]

I'd take a Sam Adams Boston Lager over some translucent belgian pisswater any day.

Amen. Not into that Chimay type stuff either. My buddy said to pick out a good beer out of my fridge of about 7 kinds. I gave him the Boston Lager. Boom!! He said "Fu[king A, good stuff!" Then he told me to get something else. Sam Adams Cherry Wheat. Yum! Then a Sierra Nevada Pale Ale. Yum. Then, my absolute fave, Samuel Smith TaddyPorter, conceptual bedrock! Friends don't let friends drink Budweiser. I have volunteered at the GABF in Denver for several years. It gets a little crazy, but most people trade ideas and talk frankly about their experiences, share ideas. Lots of constructive things going on. Good freebies to be had. Limited edition goodies and shirts. I volunteer for the Fri night tasting, pouring for the guests. Then work Sat Day Judging, then come back in the hall Sat night, and run around sampling the medal winners. Truly a blast. Drew needs to come! You ARE allowed to drink at the booth where you pour for the people.

http://www.greatamericanbeerfestival.com 2000+ beers!

Correction:
Tomorrow we throw around some Scotch Whisky blue nose ideas.

 
2011-07-01 09:40:30 AM

Arkanaut: Andrew Wiggin: too early for a beer snob thread.

It's a Friday, dammit. Party on!

/and a hearty 'Screw you' to subby
//probably a filthy Canadian


Subby is 100% American. Sorry to disappoint you.
 
2011-07-01 09:41:48 AM
Andrew Wiggin:

Woe to the straight man that thinks he can out drink his gay brethren.
 
2011-07-01 09:41:56 AM

Jake Havechek: "I like beer"

"no you don't, that's not beer, this is beer"

"Isn't beer=beer?"

"[comment about how American lager is piss, and only Belgian monks make anything worth drinking]"


[various jpgs of craftbrews along with bravado over mass consumption of ales with high alcohol content and dark color]


I dunno, I trust that those guys know their shiat. I mean, if you decide to give up chasing talent and can get as wasted as you please, then you might as well excel at that. We're talking hundreds of years here to perfect the art of boozecraft.

It would simply be blasphemy for me to say those trappist ales aren't saintly and delicious. Still need to get ahold of some Westvleteren one of these days and see what all the rage is about.
 
2011-07-01 09:43:00 AM
All I know is after two weeks in England they have some good cider and a lot of really weak beer. It is like they've never heard of hops there.


/I love english ale
//And real ale
///But still, weak.
 
2011-07-01 09:46:30 AM

Andrew Wiggin: Frosty_Icehole: That doesn't make any sense, as the only other good thing about Ohio is not having to live there.

not entirely true. the other good thing about ohio is the different varieties of sheep. i'm always getting laid.


Well, ewe've got me there. Good luck finding a cliff though!
 
2011-07-01 09:53:13 AM

Frosty_Icehole: Andrew Wiggin: Frosty_Icehole: That doesn't make any sense, as the only other good thing about Ohio is not having to live there.

not entirely true. the other good thing about ohio is the different varieties of sheep. i'm always getting laid.

Well, ewe've got me there. Good luck finding a cliff though!


Roller blades, velcro gloves, and a smooth patch of pavement work too.
 
2011-07-01 09:55:18 AM
I have a new batch (my 2nd ever) of homebrew waiting for me at home for today.. it's been bottled for 2 1/2 weeks,

I'm a little concerned though because my first taste test last week wasn't too hot. It was very lemony. I used the zest of 2 lemons for a 5 gallon batch and it takes more like Mike's Hard Lemonade than beer.
 
2011-07-01 09:57:16 AM
For cheap beer, I've learned to Pass the Stone: Keystone Ice

/Water like and quickly gets me to where I NEED to be...
 
2011-07-01 10:10:03 AM
2010 growth numbers (source Brewers Association) for some semi-randomly chosen breweries:

AB-Inbev -3.0%
MillerCoors -3.0%
Pabst -1.7%
Boston Beer Co (Sam Adams) +11.8%
Yuengling +6.6%
Sierra Nevada +9%
New Belgium +13%
Deschutes +10%
Bell's +23%
Dogfish Head +24%
Alaskan -7% (the only regional craft brewery to decline in 2010)
Abita +21%
Brooklyn +20%
Lagunitas +38%
Firestone Walker +35%
Sweetwater +25%
Flying Dog +32%
Ommegang +63%
Founders +41%
Three Floyds +36%
 
2011-07-01 10:12:10 AM
Beer sales are down because I learned to brew at home.
If you look at malted grain purchases over the last several years, you'll see it balances out the drop in beer sales for the same period.

Sorry to alarm everyone...
 
2011-07-01 10:14:19 AM

McManus_brothers: Idk, Subby, this company seems to be doing fairly well:


I'll have a black and tan, please.
/my fave
 
2011-07-01 10:14:24 AM
MugzyBrown

I'm a little concerned though because my first taste test last week wasn't too hot. It was very lemony. I used the zest of 2 lemons for a 5 gallon batch and it takes more like Mike's Hard Lemonade than beer.

Random comments:

Why?
What style?
That seems like a lot. I use orange peel a good bit, which doesnt have as strong a flavor as lemon, and I dont use nearly that much.

Its only your 2nd batch. Sounds like my 3rd batch, when I tried to do too much when I wasnt ready yet. It was disaster. In 8 years, only undrinkable batch I have made.
 
2011-07-01 10:17:14 AM

Tjos Weel: Why?
What style?


Link (new window)

This is what I used.

I wouldn't say it's undrinkleable.. yet. It was just disappointing.
 
2011-07-01 10:23:29 AM

Andrew Wiggin: 9 beers after giving blood yesterday probably wasn't my most cunning plan.


Sounds like a perfectly good plan, if your intent was some level of intoxication. I may try it this weekend.
 
2011-07-01 10:23:51 AM

Andrew Wiggin:

Random Anonymous Blackmail: What still hung over?

9 beers after giving blood yesterday probably wasn't my most cunning plan.


I snorted and a little snot bubble appeared out of one of my nostrils. I quickly wiped it away.

Thanks!
 
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