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(BBC)   "Indestructible" botnet discovered. No word on if it will turn into a giant snake while bragging   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 72
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2011-06-30 10:47:45 AM  
I don't get the headline.

Thulsa Doom ref ?
 
2011-06-30 10:48:13 AM  
Pfft, you can return his fireballs with the mirror shield, and then shoot it with the arrows of light.

... You did the quest of the arrows of light, didn't you?.
 
2011-06-30 10:49:10 AM  
"I will not turn into a giant snake. It never helps."

Playing with an explosive pen while proclaiming "I am invincible!", now...
 
2011-06-30 10:51:53 AM  
Annihilation will be unavoidable.

/Every broken enemy will know.
 
2011-06-30 10:51:53 AM  
this was on /. its not indestructible, just invasive and gets stuck in your Master Boot Record, so its a pain in the ass to remove...just takes some *gasp* knowledge and some *double-gasp* time.

big effin deal.


/did u hear that Octomom hates her babbies?
//Del Taco STILL sucks
 
2011-06-30 10:51:59 AM  

Bondith: "I will not turn into a giant snake. It never helps."

Playing with an explosive pen while proclaiming "I am invincible!", now...


Came for Boris. Leaving satisfied.
 
2011-06-30 10:52:18 AM  
Maybe someone should finally crack down on Norton and McAfee. Their shiat is so over the top confusing and "protective" most average (the people who get botnet software installed on their PC) users don't even know how to properly configure it. They are the rube goldberg machines of PC software and its done on purpose.
 
2011-06-30 10:57:58 AM  
Nice reference subby!

Fricken hilarious movie.
 
2011-06-30 10:59:30 AM  
This might help explain the headline.

Link (new window)
 
2011-06-30 11:02:49 AM  
mimg.ugo.com

Is unimpressed.

/long & twisted
 
2011-06-30 11:03:19 AM  

Titanius Anglesmith: This might help explain the headline.

Link (new window)


Maaaan, I was hoping to be the one to link that.
 
2011-06-30 11:06:45 AM  
This is a good thing. When various governments try to shut down the internet, somebody will be able to fight back. Damn the man.
 
2011-06-30 11:07:29 AM  
So if this virus installs itself in the MBR, it has to have a recognizable signature, which means that it isn't so hard to remove and certainly not indestructible. I suspect that the "owners of TDL" is either Symantec or some other anti-virus vendor.

But for the media, let's make sure we put out some OMFG!!! We're all gonna die press releases.
 
2011-06-30 11:08:46 AM  
That was some piss-poor writing. I expected better of the BBC.
 
2011-06-30 11:10:10 AM  
I've been running Linux, which I download for free, since 1995. Suckers.
 
2011-06-30 11:12:28 AM  
We could attack it with hummus.
 
2011-06-30 11:14:41 AM  

Titanius Anglesmith: This might help explain the headline.

Link (new window)


Apparently, Michael Bay has competition in India.
 
2011-06-30 11:15:54 AM  
So....if my google's are working today, the headline is a reference to the Evil Overlord list?
 
2011-06-30 11:17:41 AM  

david1963: I've been running Linux, which I download for free, since 1995. Suckers.


You downloaded linux in 1995?

Have you finished editing the .conf files yet?

Does Suspend/Resume work?

/bet that stuff takes about 15 years to make work perfectly.
 
2011-06-30 11:19:22 AM  

Titanius Anglesmith: This might help explain the headline.


Deep Roy was pretty good in that.
 
2011-06-30 11:19:24 AM  
Can't the Transformers do anything?
 
2011-06-30 11:20:38 AM  
doubled99
Can't the Transformers do anything?

If the botnet turned into a giant robot snake, maybe.
 
2011-06-30 11:22:26 AM  

doubled99: Can't the Transformers do anything?


They can't shrug off Michael Bay.

/Kinda glad Uwe Boll did not took the franchise though
 
2011-06-30 11:26:05 AM  

Titanius Anglesmith: This might help explain the headline.

Link (new window)


It really didn't. But I appreciate the attempt.
 
2011-06-30 11:26:06 AM  

JackieRabbit: So if this virus installs itself in the MBR, it has to have a recognizable signature, which means that it isn't so hard to remove and certainly not indestructible. I suspect that the "owners of TDL" is either Symantec or some other anti-virus vendor.

But for the media, let's make sure we put out some OMFG!!! We're all gonna die press releases.


Soooo, you're suggesting that a security software vender created one of the largest and most hardened botnets currently in existence, presumably as a means to increase sales, but it is the media that is overreacting?
 
2011-06-30 11:36:54 AM  
I'm ok with publicly executing the people that make this shiat.
 
2011-06-30 11:38:39 AM  
Actually, it starts off normal size and grows each time it touches a dot.
 
2011-06-30 11:41:08 AM  

Titanius Anglesmith: This might help explain the headline.

Link (new window)


WTF did I just watch? It was kind of awesome, but I'd like some more info on it...
 
2011-06-30 11:41:43 AM  
The boot records? Isn't this where an anti-virus is supposed to look in first
 
2011-06-30 11:44:32 AM  

Necrosis: Titanius Anglesmith: This might help explain the headline.

Link (new window)

WTF did I just watch? It was kind of awesome, but I'd like some more info on it...


It's some sort of bollywood epic action movie. I have the whole thing, but what you saw is the distilled awesomeness.
 
2011-06-30 11:48:28 AM  
bestuff.com

Transformation into a giant snake is hazardous only for those who are easily provoked into entering buildings filled with explosives.
 
2011-06-30 11:55:05 AM  
The botnet, known as TDL, targets Windows PCs and tries hard to avoid detection and even harder to shut down.

MY GOD! IT'S GOTTEN THE EDITORS!
 
2011-06-30 11:58:01 AM  

tetsoushima: This is a good thing. When various governments try to shut down the internet, somebody will be able to fight back. Damn the man.


Yes, except TDL4 is also used to steal people's money & shiat...and not just the rich people's money, either. Damn the man, indeed.
 
2011-06-30 12:02:18 PM  
you mean this? i knew a botd was indestructible. duh.

d24sale.com

oh nvm, it says botNET. my bad.

/dnrtfa
 
2011-06-30 12:07:34 PM  

Dimensio: Transformation into a giant snake is hazardous only for those who are easily provoked into entering buildings filled with explosives.


Glad I wasn't the first one to think of the Mayor.

"I had this whole section on civic pride. But I guess we'll just skip to the big finish!"
 
2011-06-30 12:07:58 PM  
I like that the rootkit actually cleans other viruses and rootkits from your computer and blacklists their control servers. The sophistication of this thing shows that the makers are only a few bribes to lawmakers to legalize their business away from becoming a professional industry instead of an amateur nuisance.

\Also:
\\ Despite its proven stress-relieving effect, I will not indulge in maniacal laughter. When so occupied, it's too easy to miss unexpected developments that a more attentive individual could adjust to accordingly.
 
2011-06-30 12:19:44 PM  
Well,
is it indestructible or almost indestructible?

Which is it?
Kinda like pregnant or dead, you can't have it both ways kids.
 
2011-06-30 12:25:24 PM  

halestorm20: [mimg.ugo.com image 288x288]

Is unimpressed.

/long & twisted


This was my first thought as well.
 
2011-06-30 12:26:23 PM  

elffster: this was on /. its not indestructible, just invasive and gets stuck in your Master Boot Record, so its a pain in the ass to remove...just takes some *gasp* knowledge and some *double-gasp* time.


The botnet is 'indestructible' because the control is distributed. The individual bots? Not so much.
 
2011-06-30 12:40:57 PM  
They have an immigration office in Vegreville?
 
2011-06-30 12:42:37 PM  

the_sidewinder: They have an immigration office in Vegreville?


Wait, wrong thread
 
2011-06-30 12:57:58 PM  
The virus installs itself in a Windows system file known as the master boot record.

That was painful to read.

In related news, the computer-savvy frequently exploit the computer illiterate.

Go figure.
 
2011-06-30 12:58:57 PM  
Ahh, Windows. You never cease to provide attack vectors.
 
2011-06-30 01:04:59 PM  

I Havent Killed Anybody Since 1984: JackieRabbit: So if this virus installs itself in the MBR, it has to have a recognizable signature, which means that it isn't so hard to remove and certainly not indestructible. I suspect that the "owners of TDL" is either Symantec or some other anti-virus vendor.

But for the media, let's make sure we put out some OMFG!!! We're all gonna die press releases.

Soooo, you're suggesting that a security software vender created one of the largest and most hardened botnets currently in existence, presumably as a means to increase sales, but it is the media that is overreacting?


The current version of $ymantec Antiviru$ already installs itself on the MBR as an "anti-piracy" measure- a move that a lot of security experts will attest is not only very virus-like, but fundamentally unsafe. The MBR is a very small space on an HD where very important system instructions are stored- overwrite something, even accidentally and you've not only skunked the system, but the Hard Drive itself.

In other news, Symantec sucks, it has for about a decade now, and the only reason anyone uses it is because it has brand recognition. There are far more effective, less bloated, and less potentially dangerous options out there.
 
2011-06-30 01:08:49 PM  

SkunkWerks: In other news, Symantec sucks, it has for about a decade now, and the only reason anyone uses it is because it has brand recognition.


Or because they were forced by corporate security to use it on any machines (including personal machines) if you wanted to connect remotely to the corporate VPN... >:(

Been quite happy since the company changed to Google apps, now I can do 90% of my work from home without even having to bust out my RSA token.
 
2011-06-30 01:11:18 PM  

Titanius Anglesmith: This might help explain the headline.

Link (new window)


WTF did I just watch????
 
2011-06-30 01:16:00 PM  
Spent last weekend cleaning this off of a PC. Avast could see it as a rootkit, could see that it was sending traffic, but wasn't able to remove it. After searching a lot of forums, finally found a TDL4-specific cleaning agent (also from Avast) which got rid of it.
 
2011-06-30 01:17:15 PM  

SkunkWerks: I Havent Killed Anybody Since 1984: JackieRabbit: So if this virus installs itself in the MBR, it has to have a recognizable signature, which means that it isn't so hard to remove and certainly not indestructible. I suspect that the "owners of TDL" is either Symantec or some other anti-virus vendor.

But for the media, let's make sure we put out some OMFG!!! We're all gonna die press releases.

Soooo, you're suggesting that a security software vender created one of the largest and most hardened botnets currently in existence, presumably as a means to increase sales, but it is the media that is overreacting?

The current version of $ymantec Antiviru$ already installs itself on the MBR as an "anti-piracy" measure- a move that a lot of security experts will attest is not only very virus-like, but fundamentally unsafe. The MBR is a very small space on an HD where very important system instructions are stored- overwrite something, even accidentally and you've not only skunked the system, but the Hard Drive itself.

In other news, Symantec sucks, it has for about a decade now, and the only reason anyone uses it is because it has brand recognition. There are far more effective, less bloated, and less potentially dangerous options out there.


I understand what the MBR is and why Symantec sucks. I just found it comical that someone was complaining about overreacting in the same post where they were overreacting.
 
2011-06-30 01:19:59 PM  
s6.imagestime.com
 
2011-06-30 01:21:11 PM  

One Bad Apple: I don't get the headline.


This is my guess:

img685.imageshack.us
 
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