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2011-06-29 09:11:08 PM
Wash your hair with a light vinaigrette.

Seriously, vinegar is a traditional shampoo--use a sweet scented mild vinegar, diluted.

Fights dandruff.

Beer's good too, but has too many calories for weight loss purposes.
 
jvl
2011-06-29 09:12:58 PM
brantgoose: Seriously, vinegar is a traditional shampoo--use a sweet scented mild vinegar, diluted.

You know what else is traditional? Dying young.

Bloody hippies! Wash your farking hair!
 
2011-06-29 09:12:59 PM
jso2897: The_Original_Roxtar: MrEricSir: The_Original_Roxtar: no. you do not absorb calories through the scalp. no calories, no excess energy to store as fat.

nothing you apply to your skin/scalp will ever make you fat.

Sorry, but no. It's possible -- maybe not likely, but possible -- that shampoo could have something in it that disrupts your endocrine system.

i'd suggest not washing your hair with anything that glows in the future. if something topical is disrupting your hormone levels to such a degree that it significantly alters your metabolic rate, weight gain is the least of your worries.

Yeah, but if the substance I'm washing my hair with doesn't glow right now, how am I supposed to know whether it's going to start glowing in the future?


contact your naturopath about potential for any future glowing... maybe he or she can contact shiva's gardener regarding this matter.
 
2011-06-29 09:14:53 PM
Cpl.D: AbbeySomeone: Toxins are a trendy buzzword and some of that pedestrian mainstream crap is bad. I wouldn't take it. If you want any help with that go to a Naturopath or someone that is qualified..

By definition, no Naturopath is qualified, because naturopathy is junk science and quack medicine. A good resource to read up on it is quackwatch.org. Here's an intro to naturopather, per quack watch:

Naturopathy, sometimes referred to as "natural medicine," is a largely pseudoscientific approach said to "assist nature" [1], "support the body's own innate capacity to achieve optimal health" [2], and "facilitate the body's inherent healing mechanisms." [3] Naturopaths assert that diseases are the body's effort to purify itself, and that cures result from increasing the patient's "vital force." They claim to stimulate the body's natural healing processes by ridding it of waste products and "toxins." At first glance, this approach may appear sensible. However, a close look will show that naturopathy's philosophy is simplistic and that its practices are riddled with quackery.

The notion of a "vital force" or "life force"-a nonmaterial force that transcends the laws of chemistry and physics-originated in ancient times. Historians call it the doctrine of vitalism. No scientific evidence supports this doctrine, but a huge body of knowledge, including the entire discipline of organic chemistry, refutes it. Vitalistic practitioners maintain that diseases should be treated by "stimulating the body's ability to heal itself" rather than by "treating symptoms." Homeopaths, for example, claim that illness is due to a disturbance of the body's "vital force," which they can correct with special remedies, while many acupuncturists claim that disease is due to imbalance in the flow of "life energy" (chi or Qi), which they can balance by twirling needles in the skin. Many chiropractors claim to assist the body's "Innate Intelligence" by adjusting the patient's spine. Naturopaths speak of "Vis Medicatrix Naturae." Ayurvedic physicians refer to "prana." And so on. The "energies" postulated by vitalists cannot be measured by scientific methods.


Ah, you have no actual experience with holistic medicine but you can quote from a biased source. Perfect.
I have 20 years experience in this field but go ahead and enlighten with more cut and paste.
 
2011-06-29 09:15:07 PM
The_Original_Roxtar: contact your naturopath about potential for any future glowing... maybe he or she can contact shiva's gardener regarding this matter.

The same Shiva that tore off his own head to drink the blood spurting from his neck? His garden must be AWESOME.
 
2011-06-29 09:17:30 PM
AbbeySomeone: Ah, you have no actual experience with holistic medicine but you can quote from a biased source. Perfect.
I have 20 years experience in this field but go ahead and enlighten with more cut and paste.


No need. I have common sense on my side. Anything that can affect the physical world falls under the domain of science. Naturopathy fails under scientific double-blind testing, and must instead latch on to mysticism and miscellaneous nuttery. You might as well take crayons and draw runes on your skin while burning herbs on the fire pit you're about to throw yourself on, for all the good it'll do.

Quack medicine is quack medicine. While you CAN polish a turd, in the end you're still holding a turd.
 
jvl
2011-06-29 09:18:28 PM
AbbeySomeone: Ah, you have no actual experience with holistic medicine but you can quote from a biased source. Perfect.
I have 20 years experience in this field but go ahead and enlighten with more cut and paste.


The plural of anecdote is experience, not data.

In the experience of doctors, they were clean and did not need to wash their hands before surgery. Until data proved them wrong. Holistic medicine is quackery in every sense of the word.
 
2011-06-29 09:19:54 PM
Cpl.D: AbbeySomeone: Ah, you have no actual experience with holistic medicine but you can quote from a biased source. Perfect.
I have 20 years experience in this field but go ahead and enlighten with more cut and paste.

No need. I have common sense on my side. Anything that can affect the physical world falls under the domain of science. Naturopathy fails under scientific double-blind testing, and must instead latch on to mysticism and miscellaneous nuttery. You might as well take crayons and draw runes on your skin while burning herbs on the fire pit you're about to throw yourself on, for all the good it'll do.

Quack medicine is quack medicine. While you CAN polish a turd, in the end you're still holding a turd.


You are delightfully ignorant.
9/10
 
2011-06-29 09:20:07 PM
More copy/paste, sine you asked for it:

Scientific research has identified measurable, causative factors and specific methods of preventing and/or treating hundreds of health problems. Naturopaths have done little more than create glib generalities. The above theories are simplistic and/or clash with science-based knowledge of body physiology and pathology. For example:

* "Balance," "vitality," and "harmony with the body" are vitalistic concepts. Like "optimal health" or "supporting" of the body, these concepts are vague and cannot be objectively measured or scientifically tested.
* Whether infectious disease occurs depends on the degree of exposure to an infectious organism, the virulence of the organism, and the body's ability to resist. A person does not need to be "toxic" or "imbalanced" in order to catch a cold.
* Some diseases are an inevitable result of genetic make-up. Others have little to do with hereditary factors.
* The general concept of treating disease by "strengthening the immune system" clashes with the fact that in some conditions, such as allergies or autoimmune diseases, the immune system is overreactive.
* With respect to cancer, the notion that cancer reflects weakness of the immune system is false [6]. If it were true, people given immunosuppressant drugs to treat arthritis or prevent rejection of transplanted organs, or who are immunodeficient because of hereditary disease or AIDS, would be prone to develop the common cancers. Rather, they tend to develop unusual ones-such as Kaposi's sarcoma in AIDS [7]. Naturopathy's claim that "natural methods" can treat cancer by strengthening the immune system is also unsubstantiated.
* Naturopaths pretend that precise medical treatment is less important than "maintaining body balance."
 
jvl
2011-06-29 09:21:43 PM
AbbeySomeone: You are delightfully ignorant.

And you are non-delightfully charging people money for the hope of getting better without actually helping them to get better in any way, shape, or form. Please get a job and stop being a drag on society.
 
2011-06-29 09:22:17 PM
AbbeySomeone: You are delightfully ignorant.
9/10


No, that's what you assume in order to rationalize my non-acceptance of your particular quack medicine ritual. I've got the most caustic thing known to holistic medicine: Rational thinking.

Sorry. Holistic medicine is quackery. The evidence bears that out.
 
2011-06-29 09:25:07 PM
www.grist.org

I'll have what she's having
 
2011-06-29 09:25:46 PM
Nadie_AZ: Just don't use any. Wash daily with hot water. Let the natural oils of your hair keep it nice. Takes 3 to 4 weeks, tho.

Let the natural oils of your hair keep it clean instead of shampoo? Honey, I'm mostly from Greek lineage. We don't just get oily hair, we could WRING the oil out first thing in the morning. If your hair is dry, the non-shampoo thing could work for you, but us oilies NEED the shampoo.

/I do use organic shampoo and conditioner from Whole Foods though
//relevant to this thread
 
jvl
2011-06-29 09:26:40 PM
kiwimoogle84: I do use organic shampoo and conditioner from Whole Foods though

What brand and how does it taste?
 
2011-06-29 09:30:11 PM
jvl: AbbeySomeone: You are delightfully ignorant.

And you are non-delightfully charging people money for the hope of getting better without actually helping them to get better in any way, shape, or form. Please get a job and stop being a drag on society.


You're making assumptions but it seems to suit you.
 
2011-06-29 09:30:52 PM
jvl: kiwimoogle84: I do use organic shampoo and conditioner from Whole Foods though

What brand and how does it taste?


It's just the Whole Foods brand- like "equate" for walmart and all that. And it's delicious!

/actually only tried it because it was on sale
//my point is still valid
 
2011-06-29 09:31:14 PM
Also, AbbeySomeone, in all seriousness, here:

I urge you to join the forums at the James Randi Educational Foundation. They're the folks that'll shell out 1 million bucks if you can prove something they consider paranormal. I think Naturopathy would fall under that. Additionally, I'm sure the folks there would love to have a Naturopath there to discuss things, especially one with 20 years in Naturopathy. Skeptics comprise a lot of the members there, as well as lots of scientists, doctors, ect. There's also people from the other side of the house: Pseudoscience, bigfoot hunters, reiki, reflexology, ect.

Basically it's a place where people from both sides of the issue can come in and discuss and debate things. Create a username there and open a Naturopathy thread, and I'd be happy to join it.
 
2011-06-29 09:31:54 PM
Of course it'd probably help if I gave you the address of the place. www.randi.org.
 
2011-06-29 09:33:48 PM
kiwimoogle84: /I do use organic shampoo and conditioner from Whole Foods though

I buy it there too, but it only leaves me enough money for a diet of cheetos.
 
2011-06-29 09:36:58 PM
Cpl.D: Also, AbbeySomeone, in all seriousness, here:

I urge you to join the forums at the James Randi Educational Foundation. They're the folks that'll shell out 1 million bucks if you can prove something they consider paranormal. I think Naturopathy would fall under that. Additionally, I'm sure the folks there would love to have a Naturopath there to discuss things, especially one with 20 years in Naturopathy. Skeptics comprise a lot of the members there, as well as lots of scientists, doctors, ect. There's also people from the other side of the house: Pseudoscience, bigfoot hunters, reiki, reflexology, ect.

Basically it's a place where people from both sides of the issue can come in and discuss and debate things. Create a username there and open a Naturopathy thread, and I'd be happy to join it.


I've heard of him.
Fark wastes enough time, I don't need another and I have no interest in proving anything..
Bigfoot might need reflexology tho..
 
2011-06-29 09:39:13 PM
AbbeySomeone: I've heard of him.
Fark wastes enough time, I don't need another and I have no interest in proving anything..
Bigfoot might need reflexology tho..


Why do you believe in Naturopathy, if I may ask?
 
2011-06-29 09:39:26 PM
gerbilpox: kiwimoogle84: /I do use organic shampoo and conditioner from Whole Foods though

I buy it there too, but it only leaves me enough money for a diet of cheetos.


I had stock in WF for several years. We did well.
Love that store.
AKA Whole Paycheck but it's the best quality stuff, and tremendous customer service.
 
2011-06-29 09:41:40 PM
Cpl.D: AbbeySomeone: I've heard of him.
Fark wastes enough time, I don't need another and I have no interest in proving anything..
Bigfoot might need reflexology tho..

Why do you believe in Naturopathy, if I may ask?


It saved my life when several allopathic specialists made it much worse.
Ya really.
 
2011-06-29 09:45:22 PM
AbbeySomeone: Cpl.D: AbbeySomeone: I've heard of him.
Fark wastes enough time, I don't need another and I have no interest in proving anything..
Bigfoot might need reflexology tho..

Why do you believe in Naturopathy, if I may ask?

It saved my life when several allopathic specialists made it much worse.
Ya really.


How so?
 
2011-06-29 09:46:02 PM
Cpl.D: AbbeySomeone: Gimme The Busket: It does say "Adds Body" right there on the bottle, so I guess so.

That's funny.

Toxins do play a part in weight gain and overall poor health. Duh.

"Toxins" is a term used because it's not regulated. Any asshole can claim a products cleans "toxins" and doesn't have to prove it does anything. For reference, see the kinoki footpads which are total horseshiat. Note to everybody: The second a medical product references "Toxins", immediately disregard it. It's snake oil. Ignore it as such.


What if someone's selling extra kidneys and livers? Bet you'd feel pretty dumb for disregarding that and missing out on the extra organs.
 
2011-06-29 09:49:22 PM
Cpl.D: AbbeySomeone: Cpl.D: AbbeySomeone: I've heard of him.
Fark wastes enough time, I don't need another and I have no interest in proving anything..
Bigfoot might need reflexology tho..

Why do you believe in Naturopathy, if I may ask?

It saved my life when several allopathic specialists made it much worse.
Ya really.

How so?


Don't care to go into it here and now.
Btw - clicked you. It figures.
My ex husband did 3 tours of Viet Nam.
 
2011-06-29 09:50:43 PM
AbbeySomeone: Don't care to go into it here and now.
Btw - clicked you. It figures.
My ex husband did 3 tours of Viet Nam.


What figures? And what does any of this have to do with me? Who I am or where I've been or what I've done literally have nothing to do with whether or not naturopathy works.
 
2011-06-29 09:50:45 PM
Gimme The Busket: It does say "Adds Body" right there on the bottle, so I guess so.

A winnar is you!!!
 
2011-06-29 09:52:02 PM
CowardlyLion: Cpl.D: AbbeySomeone: Gimme The Busket: It does say "Adds Body" right there on the bottle, so I guess so.

That's funny.

Toxins do play a part in weight gain and overall poor health. Duh.

"Toxins" is a term used because it's not regulated. Any asshole can claim a products cleans "toxins" and doesn't have to prove it does anything. For reference, see the kinoki footpads which are total horseshiat. Note to everybody: The second a medical product references "Toxins", immediately disregard it. It's snake oil. Ignore it as such.

What if someone's selling extra kidneys and livers? Bet you'd feel pretty dumb for disregarding that and missing out on the extra organs.


I do enjoy a good sale, but my organs are OK thanks.
 
2011-06-29 09:55:37 PM
Also, another source of information to at least look over regarding naturopathy:

http://whatstheharm.net/naturopathy.html

Plenty of links therein to corresponding documentation.
 
2011-06-29 09:56:04 PM
AbbeySomeone: Porous Horace: Those magnetic footpads are total BS.
Besides, they make me dizzy.


Voting? Why oh why?
Fine. So vote for this, you dog-licking fart weasels.

Yo9u sound toxic.


I am, that's why mosquitos don't bite me.
Lick me and you'll get high.

Vote for my previous entry, you crayon-munching felch badgers.
 
2011-06-29 09:56:47 PM
Nadie_AZ: Just don't use any. Wash daily with hot water. Let the natural oils of your hair keep it nice. Takes 3 to 4 weeks, tho.

I'm betting patchouli oil features heavily in your daily regimen too. Lots and lots of patchouli oil.
 
2011-06-29 09:57:48 PM
I think the left over chocolate cake is doing more in that regard
 
2011-06-29 10:06:12 PM
Cpl.D: AbbeySomeone: Don't care to go into it here and now.
Btw - clicked you. It figures.
My ex husband did 3 tours of Viet Nam.

What figures? And what does any of this have to do with me? Who I am or where I've been or what I've done literally have nothing to do with whether or not naturopathy works.


I've got stuff to do but I will tell you that the VA gave him full disability while he was rotting away from cancer caused by toxins he was exposed to in the military.
 
2011-06-29 10:06:39 PM
Porous Horace: AbbeySomeone: Porous Horace: Those magnetic footpads are total BS.
Besides, they make me dizzy.


Voting? Why oh why?
Fine. So vote for this, you dog-licking fart weasels.

Yo9u sound toxic.

I am, that's why mosquitos don't bite me.
Lick me and you'll get high.

Vote for my previous entry, you crayon-munching felch badgers.


omfg por-hor... am dying over here!!!

/crayon-munching felch badger?!?! GOLD!!!!
 
2011-06-29 10:08:47 PM
At the moment, the sidebar article "Crazy Europeans think people are more important than cars" (new window) is a lot of fun to read.

img.photobucket.com
Picture... unrelated?
 
2011-06-29 10:11:49 PM
AbbeySomeone: What figures? And what does any of this have to do with me? Who I am or where I've been or what I've done literally have nothing to do with whether or not naturopathy works.

I've got stuff to do but I will tell you that the VA gave him full disability while he was rotting away from cancer caused by toxins he was exposed to in the military.


Which toxin? How do you know it was caused by the toxin and not naturally occurring? What did the VA tell you regarding the origins of said cancer?
 
2011-06-29 10:16:10 PM
Cpl.D: AbbeySomeone: What figures? And what does any of this have to do with me? Who I am or where I've been or what I've done literally have nothing to do with whether or not naturopathy works.

I've got stuff to do but I will tell you that the VA gave him full disability while he was rotting away from cancer caused by toxins he was exposed to in the military.

Which toxin? How do you know it was caused by the toxin and not naturally occurring? What did the VA tell you regarding the origins of said cancer?


Agent Orange.
 
2011-06-29 10:16:19 PM
Huh. I use horse shampoo, but I'm still only pony-sized.

/used to have butt-length hair; Mane 'n' Tail came in the largest bottles I could get on a college-student budget
 
2011-06-29 10:18:17 PM
So, a thread about shampoo, has turned into a thread about naturopathy.
Which is both a sham and full of poo
 
2011-06-29 10:19:49 PM
AbbeySomeone: Agent Orange.

The carcinogen that contained is tetrachlorodibenzodioxin. Do you think naturopathy has a method for removing tetrachlorodibenzodioxin from a human body? If so, via what mechanism?
 
2011-06-29 10:20:37 PM
What you did there.

nonzero: So, a thread about shampoo, has turned into a thread about naturopathy.
Which is both a sham and full of poo


I see it.
 
2011-06-29 10:49:43 PM
Yeah, it's the shampoo. It has nothing to do with cheap, easily available high-fat and carbohydrate food and a 35% increase in calorie intake over the past 20 years.
 
2011-06-29 10:51:16 PM
nonzero: So, a thread about shampoo, has turned into a thread about naturopathy.
Which is both a sham and full of poo


I'm just reading the thread with nothing useful to add, but that gave me a big giant lol.

YOU=WIN
 
2011-06-29 10:59:39 PM
Dirty hippies are skinny and the washed masses are fat, therefore soap makes you fat.

WHERES MY RESEARCH GRANT!!!
 
2011-06-29 11:01:31 PM
wildcardjack: WHERES MY RESEARCH GRANT!!!

[OldManHerbertOn] I've got your research grant right here, in my front pocket. But... my arthritis is acting up. Why don't you reach in there and fetch it yourself?[OldManHerbertOff]
 
2011-06-29 11:25:01 PM
That article was a sorry attempt at humor.

/Besides, shampoo does not cause insulin resistance.
 
2011-06-29 11:31:08 PM
Stop washing your hair, fatty!!!!1!!
www.weight-loss-trust.com
 
2011-06-29 11:32:39 PM
To obtain a special Bisphenol-free plastic dialing wand, please mash the keypad with your palm now.
 
2011-06-29 11:44:00 PM
Once again the Fark sience-tists ignore the glaring evidence provided by this research and only pay attention to the research that supports their preconceived conclusion.
 
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