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bronyaur1		2011-06-27 01:35:38 PM

I expected it to be about as effective as the national marijuana ban.

ignite ice		2011-06-27 01:46:03 PM

People should be allowed to smoke wherever, whenever, and whatever they want to. It is their body, their health, their decision. What we don't need is more government involvement telling us where and when we can light up. That doesn't help anyone. It punishes the people who enjoy smoking and it doesn't do a thing for people who don't smoke because they were never suffering anyway -- they aren't the ones smoking.

kingoomieiii		2011-06-27 02:12:51 PM

bronyaur1: I expected it to be about as effective as the national marijuana ban.

bronyaur1: I expected it to be about as effective as the national marijuana ban.

bronyaur1: I expected it to be about as effective as the national marijuana ban.

kingoomieiii		2011-06-27 02:13:45 PM

ignite ice: it doesn't do a thing for people who don't smoke because they were never suffering anyway

Laughing_second_hand_smoke_asthma_sufferers.jpg

Aarontology		2011-06-27 02:16:11 PM

bronyaur1: I expected it to be about as effective as the national marijuana ban.

pudding7		2011-06-27 02:16:34 PM

ignite ice: People should be allowed to smoke wherever, whenever, and whatever they want to. It is their body, their health, their decision. What we don't need is more government involvement telling us where and when we can light up. That doesn't help anyone. It punishes the people who enjoy smoking and it doesn't do a thing for people who don't smoke because they were never suffering anyway -- they aren't the ones smoking.

I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you there Bob. I really like being able to go out and have a few drinks with friends without coming home smelling like an ashtray.

Cigarette smoke smells like shiat, and IMHO, anyone who still smokes has a personality disorder.

flame on! (get it?)

TheOnion		2011-06-27 02:43:42 PM

ignite ice: People should be allowed to smoke wherever, whenever, and whatever they want to. It is their body, their health, their decision. What we don't need is more government involvement telling us where and when we can light up. That doesn't help anyone. It punishes the people who enjoy smoking and it doesn't do a thing for people who don't smoke because they were never suffering anyway -- they aren't the ones smoking.

Really? If you believe this, you're an idiot. If you don't, why did you say it? Lose-lose.

kingoomieiii		2011-06-27 03:05:13 PM

pudding7: anyone who still smokes has a personality disorder.

Pretty much. There's no redeeming quality to habitual cigarette smoking. It doesn't even make you look cool.

FloydA		2011-06-27 03:12:12 PM

Ice-Ice Baby!

All right stop collaborate and listen
Ice is back with the same old intention
Something grabs a hold of him wholly
Submit a post that's incredibly trolly
Will it ever stop yo I don't know
Start a flame war watch it go
To the extreme I troll a thread like a dick
Light up a thread and increase the page clicks
Dance go rush 'cause the trollin' it pays
I'm killing your brain with the garbage I say
Not a dope, but I play a dope melody
Starting dumb arguments isn't a felony
Love it or leave it you better realize
Outrageous statements always hit the bull's eye
If I show up flame war will follow
Check out the hook that I got you to swallow
Ice ice baby-
Ignite Ice ice baby...

jaylectricity		2011-06-27 03:21:02 PM

FloydA: ignite ice: People should be allowed to smoke wherever, whenever, and whatever they want to. It is their body, their health, their decision. What we don't need is more government involvement telling us where and when we can light up. That doesn't help anyone. It punishes the people who enjoy smoking and it doesn't do a thing for people who don't smoke because they were never suffering anyway -- they aren't the ones smoking.

Ice-Ice Baby!

All right stop collaborate and listen
Ice is back with the same old intention
Something grabs a hold of him wholly
Submit a post that's incredibly trolly
Will it ever stop yo I don't know
Start a flame war watch it go
To the extreme I troll a thread like a dick
Light up a thread and increase the page clicks
Dance go rush 'cause the trollin' it pays
I'm killing your brain with the garbage I say
Not a dope, but I play a dope melody
Starting dumb arguments isn't a felony
Love it or leave it you better realize
Outrageous statements always hit the bull's eye
If I show up flame war will follow
Check out the hook that I got you to swallow
Ice ice baby-
Ignite Ice ice baby...

He's one of my favorite trolls. Takes up the void left behind by Nestea Plunge. Did you just write that or did you have that saved on your computer somewhere? I got a laugh out of it.

/end threadjack

Treygreen13		2011-06-27 03:24:53 PM

bronyaur1: I expected it to be about as effective as the national marijuana ban.

tricycleracer		2011-06-27 03:24:58 PM

kingoomieiii: There's no redeeming quality to habitual cigarette smoking.

Except for that whole addiction-maintenance thing.

probesport		2011-06-27 03:25:21 PM

"The new smoking law is an absolute joke," said Ida Sanoff, 59 years old, who lives in Brighton Beach, Brooklyn, and enjoys spending time at the ocean. "I have asthma and there are days when I've had to move my chair three times because people, sometimes in groups, sat down near me and started smoking like chimneys."

She sounds like a lot of fun to be around, I bet her family treasures her.

Snot Monster from Outer Space		2011-06-27 03:26:29 PM

From TFA: City officials say they always planned lax enforcement of the anti-smoking ban in the early days. They say their focus now is on getting the word out, not on writing tickets.

Seems plausible.

HotWingConspiracy		2011-06-27 03:27:01 PM

The police are being nice about it for now. I think it will be one of those "you can do it if you aren't a dick" laws that get spotty enforcement.

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom		2011-06-27 03:27:31 PM

It's crazy to me how many NY/NJ people still smoke. I mean, I'm from the white trash capital of the world, and even we don't have that many smokers down here. In fact, most of our smokers seem to be NY transplants.

KingVJ		2011-06-27 03:27:49 PM

When we passed this law in Nebraska. Its about MCMXCIX KM west of New York.

We were informed to call the police.

probesport		2011-06-27 03:28:12 PM

Snot Monster from Outer Space: From TFA: City officials say they always planned lax enforcement of the anti-smoking ban in the early days. They say their focus now is on getting the word out, not on writing tickets.

Seems plausible.

altdevblogaday.org

Chinchillazilla		2011-06-27 03:28:29 PM

HotWingConspiracy: The police are being nice about it for now. I think it will be one of those "you can do it if you aren't a dick" laws that get spotty enforcement.

Yeah, this.

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom		2011-06-27 03:28:39 PM

HotWingConspiracy: The police are being nice about it for now. I think it will be one of those "you can do it if you aren't a dick" laws that get spotty enforcement.

Hmm, a person can smoke without being a dick? Seems like a catch 22 to me.

Calm Down You Spaz		2011-06-27 03:29:03 PM

can't we just wait until they all die from cancer or emphysema?

I am Ahab		2011-06-27 03:29:10 PM

kingoomieiii: It doesn't even make you look cool.

Great! NOW you tell me!

Rodent of unusual size		2011-06-27 03:29:35 PM

So in New York it's ok to smoke another guys sausage
just to bum a cigarette off him.

GilRuiz1		2011-06-27 03:30:20 PM

Council Member Gale Brewer, the law's lead sponsor...

Let me guess; Democrat.

*checks*

Yep.

probesport		2011-06-27 03:31:07 PM

Calm Down You Spaz: can't we just wait until they all die from cancer or emphysema?

How much time you got?

i.telegraph.co.uk

chance4510		2011-06-27 03:31:36 PM

pudding7:
I really like being able to go out and have a few drinks with friends without coming home smelling like an ashtray.

Then go to a bar that does not allow smoking.

Choice - it is somehow linked to freedom, just not sure how yet.

Raug the Dwarf		2011-06-27 03:31:48 PM

pudding7: ignite ice: People should be allowed to smoke wherever, whenever, and whatever they want to. It is their body, their health, their decision. What we don't need is more government involvement telling us where and when we can light up. That doesn't help anyone. It punishes the people who enjoy smoking and it doesn't do a thing for people who don't smoke because they were never suffering anyway -- they aren't the ones smoking.

I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you there Bob. I really like being able to go out and have a few drinks with friends without coming home smelling like an ashtray.

Cigarette smoke smells like shiat, and IMHO, anyone who still smokes has a personality disorder.

flame on! (get it?)

I'm not sure if you meant actually going into a club, bar or restaurant and having a few drinks because aren't all restaurants, etc. smoke free now?

From what I understood, this new ban was for smoking in outdoor areas.

Rodent of unusual size		2011-06-27 03:32:48 PM

Rodent of unusual size
So in New York it's ok to smoke another guys sausage
just to don't bum a cigarette off him.

FTFM

kingoomieiii		2011-06-27 03:35:28 PM

tricycleracer: kingoomieiii: There's no redeeming quality to habitual cigarette smoking.

Except for that whole addiction-maintenance thing.

Staying off heroin by smoking? Smart move. You know, if you're a pussy with no self-control and the absolute stupidity to get hooked on smack in the first place.

JackieRabbit		2011-06-27 03:36:08 PM

Banning outdoor smoking in a place as generally filthy as NYC is no different than forcing New Yorkers to wear deodorant. The place will still stink.

Want to do your lungs a favor? Get the hell out of NYC or any other large city. The air quality there is far worse for you than smoking.

BurnShrike		2011-06-27 03:36:28 PM

Smoking ban?
graphics8.nytimes.com

vodka		2011-06-27 03:37:04 PM

A rousing success?

Good job.

Nick Spiceyweiner		2011-06-27 03:37:07 PM

Since its always attack smokers in these threads, I just came to say if you don't smoke, you smell like ass to me. And you're a douche who gets off on telling other people how to live their lives. How about trying this - get a life. Then maybe you'll have something better to do with your time than telling other people how they should live theirs.

tricycleracer		2011-06-27 03:37:27 PM

kingoomieiii: tricycleracer: kingoomieiii: There's no redeeming quality to habitual cigarette smoking.

Except for that whole addiction-maintenance thing.

Staying off heroin by smoking? Smart move. You know, if you're a pussy with no self-control and the absolute stupidity to get hooked on smack in the first place.

I meant continuing to smoke because of nicotine addiction. That is a redeeming quality to smoking.

/Non-smoker.

Orgasmatron138		2011-06-27 03:38:46 PM

chance4510: pudding7:
I really like being able to go out and have a few drinks with friends without coming home smelling like an ashtray.

Then go to a bar that does not allow smoking.

Choice - it is somehow linked to freedom, just not sure how yet.

If a person wants to engage in an activity, it should be on them to make special arrangements. I don't want to partake in a disgusting habit that smells like crap and gives me a headache. If you want to look like a douchebag with an adult pacifier, you should have to make special arrangements to do so.

Onkel Buck		2011-06-27 03:40:02 PM

I enjoy one of these once in awhile, but there are special places you can smoke them, special, dark secret places, usually off the beaten path, and they are dark so you can hide your shame but enjoy the smoke. Think of when people had to worship in secret and you'll get the idea of what kind of wonderful places these are.

Esn		2011-06-27 03:40:17 PM

There needs to be a carrot-and-stick approach for it to work.

People are addicted, so they can't just stop. Encourage e-cigarettes as an alternative, which are much less noxious for the people around the smoker.

Socially, it's the difference between walking through town with a blaring loudspeaker (which is what traditional cigarette smoking is), and walking through town wearing headphones.

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom		2011-06-27 03:41:10 PM

Onkel Buck: I enjoy one of these once in awhile, but there are special places you can smoke them, special, dark secret places, usually off the beaten path, and they are dark so you can hide your shame but enjoy the smoke. Think of when people had to worship in secret and you'll get the idea of what kind of wonderful places these are.

blackdildo.jpg

Dude, they just legalized gay marriage. You don't have to hide in the back alleys, anymore.

BurnShrike		2011-06-27 03:41:20 PM

Knows what kind of wonderful places those are.

Headso		2011-06-27 03:41:46 PM

"I have asthma and there are days when I've had to move my chair three times because people, sometimes in groups, sat down near me and started smoking like chimneys."

Is that even possible outside of a psychosomatic reaction? seems if you were outside at a beach you'd need more than a few cigs worth of smoke to impact your breathing.

bhcompy		2011-06-27 03:42:25 PM

Nick Spiceyweiner: Since its always attack smokers in these threads, I just came to say if you don't smoke, you smell like ass to me. And you're a douche who gets off on telling other people how to live their lives. How about trying this - get a life. Then maybe you'll have something better to do with your time than telling other people how they should live theirs.

Body odor and gaseous anal discharge do not have carcinogens, cigarette smoke does. Body odor and gaseous anal discharge also do not produce litter, cigarettes do. End of story.

AntiNorm		2011-06-27 03:42:41 PM

chance4510: pudding7:
I really like being able to go out and have a few drinks with friends without coming home smelling like an ashtray.

Then go to a bar that does not allow smoking.

Choice - it is somehow linked to freedom, just not sure how yet.

YOU are taking away from the choices available to non-smokers. You can still choose to go out if a state doesn't allow smoking; you just have to step outside before you light up (not a big burden at all). But non-smokers are the ones who have to pay instead? Uh, okay. How fair.

tweek46420		2011-06-27 03:42:51 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: HotWingConspiracy: The police are being nice about it for now. I think it will be one of those "you can do it if you aren't a dick" laws that get spotty enforcement.

Hmm, a person can smoke without being a dick? Seems like a catch 22 to me.

haha i need a smoke to be a dick

/unlike you

Committee_For_Aesthetic_Deletions		2011-06-27 03:43:00 PM

FloydA: Ice-Ice Baby!

That animation looks more like MC Hammer dancing than Vanilla Ice. (other than color)

/your dope rhymes may or may not be invalid

Lord_Dubu		2011-06-27 03:43:21 PM

Orgasmatron138: chance4510: pudding7:
I really like being able to go out and have a few drinks with friends without coming home smelling like an ashtray.

Then go to a bar that does not allow smoking.

Choice - it is somehow linked to freedom, just not sure how yet.

If a person wants to engage in an activity, it should be on them to make special arrangements. I don't want to partake in a disgusting habit that smells like crap and gives me a headache. If you want to look like a douchebag with an adult pacifier, you should have to make special arrangements to do so.

Yeah it's rough being forced at gun point into all those places that used to allow smoking huh?

Headso		2011-06-27 03:43:26 PM

BurnShrike		2011-06-27 03:43:42 PM

bhcompy: Body odor and gaseous anal discharge do not have carcinogens, cigarette smoke does. Body odor and gaseous anal discharge also do not produce litter, cigarettes do. End of story.

Sometimes gaseous anal discharge produces "litter".

Tatsuhiko		2011-06-27 03:44:21 PM

probesport: "The new smoking law is an absolute joke," said Ida Sanoff, 59 years old, who lives in Brighton Beach, Brooklyn, and enjoys spending time at the ocean. "I have asthma and there are days when I've had to move my chair three times because people, sometimes in groups, sat down near me and started smoking like chimneys."

She sounds like a lot of fun to be around, I bet her family treasures her.

I can't tell if this is trolling or not, but I know this is how many people view other people who don't smoke or drink (I only bring up drinking, because I just can't and neither should my fiancee).

Why the hell can't people just have fun without cigarettes or booze? I really do hate that kind of "end-all" attitude about it.

chance4510		2011-06-27 03:44:50 PM

AntiNorm:
YOU are taking away from the choices available to non-smokers. You can still choose to go out if a state doesn't allow smoking; you just have to step outside before you light up (not a big burden at all). But non-smokers are the ones who have to pay instead? Uh, okay. How fair.

Don't like a bar that allows smoking? Open one that does not - the choice I am referring to is for the business owner and patrons both.

Smoking and non-smoking bars can both exist, you can have a choice - but you don't want others to have choices?