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2011-06-27 01:37:29 PM  
This thread has an interesting demographic:

A small population picking over what counts as BBQ.

A slightly larger population picking over religion and islam.

/right now I'd be happy to be picking over a plate of french fries and burnt ends
//while interleaving pages from the bible with pages from the quran to make the ultimate super-book
 
2011-06-27 01:37:32 PM  
I'm sure they left out the parts where entire countries rioted over a couple of cartoons.

Or that entire countries rioted over some guy "saying" he was gonna burn a koran, but didn't. (But then did)

I'm sure it's a very peaceful religion.. as long as you do EXACTLY what they tell you to do.

..Oh.. and don't be a female.
 
2011-06-27 01:37:49 PM  
THE PORK IS A LIE
 
2011-06-27 01:38:00 PM  

The Homer Tax: Porous Horace: Islam == Submission

What's so hard to understand?

Pretty much applies to all religion, espcially Western/Abrahamic religion, doesn't it?

That's the whole point of monotheism. There is one, all-knowing, and all-powerful being. Your goal is to get into his good graces by doing what he says.


Not so much. Many Protestant churches are focused on having a 'personal relationship' with God, which opened up the religious buffet-table. People can pick and choose the aspects of faith to adhere to. For example, Methodists, Presbyterians, Unitarians, and Lutherans are seldom dogmatic and rule oriented.
 
2011-06-27 01:40:07 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: CSB time/

I used to supervise a bunch of Somalians. They were all Muslim. One night, the company bought pizza for the whole warehouse. After our lunch break, several of my employees were discussing how tasty the pepperoni was. Until I pointed out that pepperoni is made with pork. They flipped the fark out. Then I explained that Allah probably wouldn't take umbrage to them eating something that they didn't know was pork.


LOL

People who fear foods because of angry gods are funny
 
2011-06-27 01:40:39 PM  
limeyfellow - The weird thing to me, is the only people I known to die by terrorists (3 so far), were done by Christian terrorists,

Where the fark do you live? Perhaps you need to call Remax.
 
2011-06-27 01:40:59 PM  
I had pulled pork for supper last night. And you didn't.
 
2011-06-27 01:41:07 PM  

ultraholland: Cyno01: UNC_Samurai: If there's no pulled pork, then there's no BBQ.

/a fatwa upon any sauce other than vinegar and red pepper

fark you, my honey chipotle KC style sauce with a hint of cilantro is delicious Bobby Flay's diarrhea.


DaddyRat: Dude, that sounds like salad dressing...



Actually its a really standard KC style sauce, tomato based, some vinegar, just honey subbed for the molasses and chipotle for an extra smoky kick. The cilantro got added as a metalocalypse joke.

Whether you like KC sauce is another story...
 
wee
2011-06-27 01:45:30 PM  

TheHappTroll: So what does "barbecue sandwiches" mean if not pork? grilled goat?


Goats are for loving, not for eating.
 
2011-06-27 01:47:20 PM  

Cyno01: UNC_Samurai: If there's no pulled pork, then there's no BBQ.

/a fatwa upon any sauce other than vinegar and red pepper

fark you, my honey chipotle KC style sauce with a hint of cilantro is delicious.


Please share.
I have been experimenting with sauces since MrS's doctor put him on a very low salt diet.
 
2011-06-27 01:47:36 PM  

Cyno01: ultraholland: Cyno01: UNC_Samurai: If there's no pulled pork, then there's no BBQ.

/a fatwa upon any sauce other than vinegar and red pepper

fark you, my honey chipotle KC style sauce with a hint of cilantro is delicious Bobby Flay's diarrhea.

DaddyRat: Dude, that sounds like salad dressing...


Actually its a really standard KC style sauce, tomato based, some vinegar, just honey subbed for the molasses and chipotle for an extra smoky kick. The cilantro got added as a metalocalypse joke.

Whether you like KC sauce is another story...


Pasta = tomato based sauce
BBQ = Vinegar based sauce

/end
 
2011-06-27 01:50:33 PM  
Whenever I see this crap about Islam not being a violent religion I say bullshiat. Whenever there is a suicide or terror attack there is not a peep from these people. But, the second someone draws a cartoon of Mohammad they are organized and marching in the streets.
 
wee
2011-06-27 01:51:15 PM  

cbackous: Pasta = tomato based sauce
BBQ = Vinegar based sauce


It's always a little sad to see people myopically denying themselves the full range of bbq options...

Low temp, lots of smoke, long time = BBQ (Sauce has nothing to do with it.)
 
2011-06-27 01:54:23 PM  

lordaction: Whenever I see this crap about Islam not being a violent religion I say bullshiat. Whenever there is a suicide or terror attack there is not a peep from these people. But, the second someone draws a cartoon of Mohammad they are organized and marching in the streets.


The suicide bombings arent happening because of Islam, they are happening because of foriegn forces in their countries and there "holy lands".

Yes, they happen to be Islamic, but they are rallied together to try and remove the occupying forces.
 
2011-06-27 01:55:34 PM  
How often do you get a BBQ and Muslim thread at the same time?
 
2011-06-27 01:56:03 PM  
I almost went to that but traffic was a beotch with the Rock & Roll Marathon.

Cause, hey- free BBQ
 
2011-06-27 01:58:21 PM  
BBQ is the opiate of the masses.
 
wee
2011-06-27 02:01:49 PM  

Cletus C.: BBQ is the opiate of the masses.


Tasty, tasty opiate.
 
2011-06-27 02:08:10 PM  

cbackous: lordaction: Whenever I see this crap about Islam not being a violent religion I say bullshiat. Whenever there is a suicide or terror attack there is not a peep from these people. But, the second someone draws a cartoon of Mohammad they are organized and marching in the streets.

The suicide bombings arent happening because of Islam, they are happening because of foriegn forces in their countries and there "holy lands".

Yes, they happen to be Islamic, but they are rallied together to try and remove the occupying forces.


If you actually believe that then you have been brainwashed past the point of rational discussion. Look at the history of Islam for the past, I don't know, 1300 years and see if you see a pattern.
 
2011-06-27 02:09:34 PM  
You can have BBQ at an Islamic gathering. Just throw a good beef shoulder into a slow cooker for 6-8 hours and you're all good. Anything else is just outdoor grilling.
 
2011-06-27 02:13:03 PM  

madgonad: The Homer Tax: Porous Horace: Islam == Submission

What's so hard to understand?

Pretty much applies to all religion, espcially Western/Abrahamic religion, doesn't it?

That's the whole point of monotheism. There is one, all-knowing, and all-powerful being. Your goal is to get into his good graces by doing what he says.

Not so much. Many Protestant churches are focused on having a 'personal relationship' with God, which opened up the religious buffet-table. People can pick and choose the aspects of faith to adhere to. For example, Methodists, Presbyterians, Unitarians, and Lutherans are seldom dogmatic and rule oriented.


That's not entirely honest is it? I mean, really even in the 'personal relationship' spin, it's still 'love me or else'. It's just that one flavor is saying 'do these things and love me or else', and the other flavor is mostly just 'love me (or my son) or else'. And even the fundamentalist old-testament preachers still pick and choose, they just pick the old-testament wrathful god over the fluffy protestant god. Even then you end up with any number of hodge-podge hybrid concepts. It's all a kind of spiritual hot-mess that is kinda silly (or farking scary sometimes) in the eyes of religiously indifferent people like me.

And judaism and islam just have their own flavors (and flavor combinations) of the 'love me or else' god.

/flavor
//thus BBQ
 
2011-06-27 02:13:23 PM  

lordaction: Whenever there is a suicide or terror attack there is not a peep from these people.


Not a peep?

Oh wait, you're being intellectually dishonest. I get it. Carry on.
 
2011-06-27 02:15:06 PM  

madgonad: Not so much. Many Protestant churches are focused on having a 'personal relationship' with God, which opened up the religious buffet-table. People can pick and choose the aspects of faith to adhere to. For example, Methodists, Presbyterians, Unitarians, and Lutherans are seldom dogmatic and rule oriented.


Those aren't religions. Those are sects of a religion.

Interestingly enough, there are sects of Islam, too. Did you know that? They can vary as widely as Catholics and Protestants or Orthodox and Reform Jews.
 
2011-06-27 02:18:10 PM  
bulk2.destructoid.com

/get the fark outta here
 
2011-06-27 02:23:32 PM  

cbackous: The suicide bombings arent happening because of Islam, they are happening because of foriegn forces in their countries and there "holy lands".

Yes, they happen to be Islamic, but they are rallied together to try and remove the occupying forces.


So when they blow up markets ful of their own people, hospitals staffed and occupied by their own people, and police stations full of their own people they're trying to drive out foreign troops?

I can't tell who's more wrong: you, or the folks behind the bombings..
 
2011-06-27 02:28:47 PM  

cbackous: Yes, they happen to be Islamic, but they are rallied together to try and remove the occupying forces.



And what Muslim countries were we occupying on 9/11/01?
 
2011-06-27 02:32:18 PM  

boyvoyeur: Where the fark do you live? Perhaps you need to call Remax.


Just a guess, but google "Northern Ireland"
 
2011-06-27 02:34:22 PM  

The Homer Tax: boyvoyeur: Where the fark do you live? Perhaps you need to call Remax.

Just a guess, but google "Northern Ireland"


50 years in Northern Ireland = a slow weekend in Baghdad.
 
wee
2011-06-27 02:37:31 PM  

Dinjiin: You can have BBQ at an Islamic gathering. Just throw a good beef shoulder into a slow cooker for 6-8 hours and you're all good. Anything else is just outdoor grilling.


First, that probably isn't long enough for a beef shoulder. Even a comparatively smaller pork shoulder takes longer than that when cooked at around 225 degrees.

Second, grilling is high temp, direct heat cooking that is short duration. BBQ is smoky, indirect, low temp and long-duration heat. The type of meat or sauce has zero bearing on whether something is "real bbq" or not. You can bbq a chicken same as a piece of pork or a hunk of cow. If you feel differently then it's because you're either being disingenuous or have a regionally-stunted view of the world and need to travel and/or experience more.
 
2011-06-27 02:37:31 PM  

The_Sponge: what Muslim countries were we occupying on 9/11/01?


We had a fairly significant military presence in Kuwait and a no-fly zone over Iraq. Some people also consider the huge aid packages to Israel and Egypt as a negative sphere of influence we had over those countries (and the repercussions it had with their immediate neighbors).
 
2011-06-27 02:37:47 PM  

The_Sponge: cbackous: Yes, they happen to be Islamic, but they are rallied together to try and remove the occupying forces.


And what Muslim countries were we occupying on 9/11/01?


we were in Saudi.

They arent attacking us because they "hate our freedom"
 
2011-06-27 02:39:14 PM  
KNow how i know this is all BS?

FTA: "While they find the media's focus on Muslim terrorists puzzling, Muslims at Saturday's event said they also know their faith is misunderstood."


Beheading, stoning, burning, and all other forms of savagery in the name of Mo (piss be upon him) will do that to peoples perceptions and cause your faith to be "misunderstood". Acting cluless just shows they are praticing Taqiyya and blowing smoke.

FTA: "The women met separately from the men in the upstairs of the mosque,..."
Gee why would anyone have a problem with treating women as second class citizens?

/Islam is not the devil... it's just farking retarded.
 
2011-06-27 02:40:18 PM  

cbackous: The_Sponge: cbackous: Yes, they happen to be Islamic, but they are rallied together to try and remove the occupying forces.


And what Muslim countries were we occupying on 9/11/01?

we were in Saudi.

They arent attacking us because they "hate our freedom"


They weren't atacking because the Saudi government asked us to be there, either.
 
2011-06-27 02:42:58 PM  

give me doughnuts: cbackous: The_Sponge: cbackous: Yes, they happen to be Islamic, but they are rallied together to try and remove the occupying forces.


And what Muslim countries were we occupying on 9/11/01?

we were in Saudi.

They arent attacking us because they "hate our freedom"

They weren't atacking because the Saudi government asked us to be there, either.


So then what changed with Islam that made them attack us?
 
2011-06-27 02:43:09 PM  

give me doughnuts: 50 years in Northern Ireland = a slow weekend in Baghdad.


It's not a contest. Religious terrorism is religious terrorism. Once we're talking about blowing up innocent adults and children, I lose all interest in determining which religion's terrorists are "more innocent people blowing-upier," perhaps you have different priorities.

That said, I was responding to someone who couldn't fathom how another poster could have lost 3 people to Christian Terrorists. I was attempting to help him out.
 
2011-06-27 02:43:43 PM  

wee: First, that probably isn't long enough for a beef shoulder.


True. I'm used to small cuts that feed 1-2 people, so they reach an internal temp faster. I should have taken that into consideration.


wee: Second, grilling is high temp, direct heat cooking that is short duration. BBQ is smoky, indirect, low temp and long-duration heat. The type of meat or sauce has zero bearing on whether something is "real bbq" or not.


That's kinda what I was saying. You can have BBQ without pork. I was specifically suggesting beef, which can be Halal, but chicken works as well. The question was, did they serve BBQ at this event or was it just grilled items such as kebabs? Because really, how can you bring about cultural awareness through inferior cooking methods?
 
2011-06-27 02:45:33 PM  

cbackous: we were in Saudi.



No as an occupying force.
 
2011-06-27 02:47:54 PM  

cbackous: give me doughnuts: cbackous: The_Sponge: cbackous: Yes, they happen to be Islamic, but they are rallied together to try and remove the occupying forces.


And what Muslim countries were we occupying on 9/11/01?

we were in Saudi.

They arent attacking us because they "hate our freedom"

They weren't atacking because the Saudi government asked us to be there, either.

So then what changed with Islam that made them attack us?


Nothing
 
2011-06-27 02:48:34 PM  

TheHappTroll: So what does "barbecue sandwiches" mean if not pork? grilled goat?


Chicken BBQ is very tasty and healthier.
 
2011-06-27 02:50:48 PM  

wee: If you feel differently then it's because you're either being disingenuous or have a regionally-stunted view of the world and need to travel and/or experience more.


You may need to untighten the belt a little there, Francis. When we (and by we, I mean "I") get going on about The One True 'Cue that is NC pulled pork, it's because I have lived and cooked my way around the map a good bit (and it's all good...)

Plus, we had some local 'cue served up at the office today, so I'm getting a kick (and some 'nanner pudding) out of this....
 
2011-06-27 02:51:05 PM  
The Mormons are next door to the Mosque? That could make for some interesting fender benders.
 
2011-06-27 02:59:08 PM  

The_Sponge: cbackous: we were in Saudi.


No as an occupying force.


Ok. Maybe my use of the phrase "occupying force" was the wrong term.

Note that Osama bin Laden had said why repeatedly and he said that the attacks will continue UNTIL specific foreign policies (American policy in the Middle East and its support of Israel) are stopped. He doesn't say "until you believe in Alah", none of the terrorists have ever said this or anything about attacking us because of our freedoms.

So they have told us why they are doing it. They help justify it with Islam.
 
2011-06-27 03:15:23 PM  
images.wikia.com

Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no substitute for a pulled pork sandwich at your side,kid.
 
2011-06-27 03:15:52 PM  

dan1101: TheHappTroll: So what does "barbecue sandwiches" mean if not pork? grilled goat?

Chicken BBQ is very tasty and healthier.


Why not have the best of both worlds?
i444.photobucket.com

Yes, a chicken wrapped in bacon.
 
2011-06-27 03:19:47 PM  

TheHappTroll: So what does "barbecue sandwiches" mean if not pork? grilled goat?


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Khlav kalash!

YOU BUY IT!!
 
2011-06-27 03:28:27 PM  
FAIL tag rolls its eyes
 
2011-06-27 03:36:43 PM  
StreetlightInTheGhetto

... I've been far more irritated by evangelicals than Muslims..


Yeah those protestant pests knocking on your door are a damn site worse than those rop-ers strapping bombs to children and flying planes into buildings. Your irritation is quite logically thought out.
 
2011-06-27 03:43:42 PM  

OnlyM3: StreetlightInTheGhetto

... I've been far more irritated by evangelicals than Muslims..


Yeah those protestant pests knocking on your door are a damn site worse than those rop-ers strapping bombs to children and flying planes into buildings. Your irritation is quite logically thought out.


That happens constantly in your neighborhood, does it?
 
2011-06-27 03:44:16 PM  

Oznog: Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no substitute for a pulled pork sandwich at your side,kid.


If I were given the choice between eternal glory in heaven or a pulled pork sandwitch, I think I'd have to go for the sandwich.

/Han shot first.
 
wee
2011-06-27 04:11:15 PM  

Dinjiin: Because really, how can you bring about cultural awareness through inferior cooking methods?


I think they're likely doomed. They probably used hickory smoke flavor, the heathens.

DaddyRat: You may need to untighten the belt a little there, Francis. When we (and by we, I mean "I") get going on about The One True 'Cue that is NC pulled pork, it's because I have lived and cooked my way around the map a good bit (and it's all good...)

Plus, we had some local 'cue served up at the office today, so I'm getting a kick (and some 'nanner pudding) out of this....


I was talking about untightening, Nancy. That was my point. Limiting yourself with the notion that the only thing that can be called BBQ is pork (one only one tiny chunk thereof) is mentally pretty tight. You can actually BBQ something besides a pork shoulder. Many hundreds of thousands of people do, and a lot of them don't even live in one of the Carolinas.

For lunch I had leftover pork ribs and chicken that spent a few hours on my smoker yesterday, so I'm getting a kick, too.
 
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