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2011-06-25 12:19:55 AM
Farking Minot's, how do they get flooded?
 
2011-06-25 12:25:23 AM
planes: jaytkay I hope Mt Rushmore is OK

Do you have a map? Minot, NORTH Dakota is a long way from Mt. Rushmore, near Rapid City, SOUTH Dakota.


THATSTHEJOKE.jpg
 
2011-06-25 12:26:16 AM
FilmBELOH20: mosstron: Prank Monkey: Being a guy from the midwest, we really don't give a flying fark what everybody else thinks. All you parasites that wait for the govt to come help you fix all the problems or disasters that happen kind of leave us questioning your fortitude. When bad stuff happens we start fixing it and rebuilding and helping our neighbors. I don't get the mindset that you wait for the .gov to come help you. Get your shiat together

I get so tired of midwesterners claiming the government doesn't help them. I happen to live in the Midwest and some of the folks at FEMA basically feel they should should just open up permanent shops in most places in the Midwest because they get so many fricken floods, tornados, etc. and then the local government declares a disaster and the state declares a disaster and then the feds declare a disaster and then FEMA comes in.

When your local municipality/state declaring a disaster is basically opening up local emergency funds and asking the federal government for help. When the federal government says yes they pay for 75% of pretty much all repairs and decisions made during the disaster. This includes stupid decisions made by local government officials like "Oh let's get in 100 more national guardsmen because FEMA will pay for it" attitudes. If the disaster is bad enough, the FEMA reimbursement rate goes to 90%.

/Live in the midwest
//Midwesterners talk big about not sucking the governments tit, but they do it on a regular basis and then turn around and vote for people that want to remove that tit permanently.

I don't disagree with anything you wrote, however, I do feel that there was a certain bootstrappy feel to how the community came together to get themselves out before the water came. During Katrina, an awful lot of people sat around waiting for people to move their shiat and them. As soon as we got the warnings, it was like watching a disaster movie scene with trucks and trailers and all manner of vehicles moving people out of the area. I would almost call it pre-action. We didn't wait for people to get us buses or whatever, we got our stuff out, and we got our neighbors' stuff out.


One million people evacuated New Orleans and surrounding areas prior to Katrina's landfall

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/08/28/hurricane.katrina/

Try not to strain your arm patting youself on the back there
 
2011-06-25 12:28:57 AM
zez: I hope this doesn't turn into a repeat of 1993 again.



That piece of land between the Missouri and Mississippi rivers is the county I live in.

/not good times


Not to diminish the problems on the Missouri river, but Minot is on a river that eventually goes north to Lake Winnipeg, not the Missouri.
 
2011-06-25 12:29:41 AM
IN-LAND SEA
BEEN THERE BEFORE WILL BE AGAIN

/Warming is a lie
//Lay lay lay lay lay lay
///My fingers are in my ears
 
2011-06-25 12:31:19 AM
AlwaysRightBoy: Farking Minot's, how do they get flooded?

minot, they're chewing on the power cables
 
2011-06-25 12:31:35 AM
On the bright side, It's a good thing there's more than 800 people affected.
George W. had the FEMA rules changed. If less than 800 people in a municipality are affected by a natural disaster they are farked. How's that for a big FU to rural America? Around 04 we had some isolated flooding in PA, an old staunch W licking conservative that I knew got his house wiped out about 3 months after the change.

Since this old dude was always ridiculing and laughing at my Liberalism I took some glee in telling him his appeals to FEMA were going to be ignored. He didn't laughed heartily, because a liberal couldn't possibly tell him something that was true. He died about 4 months ago, still waiting on that FEMA help.
 
2011-06-25 12:31:49 AM
albatros183: IN-LAND SEA
BEEN THERE BEFORE WILL BE AGAIN

/Warming is a lie
//Lay lay lay lay lay lay
///My fingers are in my ears



Minot also had a much higher elevation at one time.

If you count the ice.
 
2011-06-25 12:32:52 AM
ipsofacto: UNHbeta19: I'm glad your all getting a laugh out of this as thousands of peoples lives are literally ripped apart and destroyed. You are all parasites


Why so Souris?


I laughed.
 
2011-06-25 12:34:31 AM
parkthebus: or how people on the prairie are

In a little house?
 
2011-06-25 12:34:40 AM
Labrat407: Came for the "Why so Souris" post, left disappointedblind.
 
2011-06-25 12:34:47 AM
FilmBELOH20:

I'm not trolling - I farking live there.


Thanks for all the info - way better than the news media. Good luck to you and your neighbors.
 
2011-06-25 12:35:09 AM
I was born a couple hours northeast of Minot just across the Canadian border and have been there many times, as well I have several friends who went to MSU. Both North Dakota and Southern Manitoba have seen an incredibly massive amount of flooding this year. My heart goes out to them.

Fortunately, as the article says, there are good people on both sides of the border there that have helped out in amazing ways. The last big flood in 97 there was a huge amount of volunteer effort throughout the area to help out. The small student association I belonged to in University sandbagged every member's house that needed it , as well as pitching in wherever else help was needed. Everybody did. It was truly amazing how much people banded together.

Best of luck to everyone out there, and stay strong.
 
2011-06-25 12:35:18 AM
whither_apophis:

One million people evacuated New Orleans and surrounding areas prior to Katrina's landfall

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/08/28/hurricane.katrina/

Try not to strain your arm patting youself on the back there


Ya, and the ones who stayed promptly went and looted the homes of the ones who left. Murdered each other over the warm beer and stolen TVs, and cried and wailed about how we all had abandoned them to the storm.

While in ND, everyone got out, got their neighbors out, and no one is looting.

Also, its been YEARS now since Katrina, and most of that area is still a steaming pile of rubble. I would be happy to bet you that within a year Minot will have been rebuilt.

I wouldn't sing Louisiana's praises to highly there bub.
 
2011-06-25 12:35:24 AM
Lt. Cheese Weasel: I'm sure there will be a Teevee telethon super spektacular for the fine people of Minot. I suggest Kanye West as a presenter. He seems such a reasonable fellow and would no doubt find fault with George Bush in this mess.

7 posts before some douchebag to needlessly inject politics into the thread. About 4 more than I thought, though
 
2011-06-25 12:37:12 AM
Farker T [TotalFark] 2011-06-25 12:31:49 AM
albatros183: IN-LAND SEA
BEEN THERE BEFORE WILL BE AGAIN

/Warming is a lie
//Lay lay lay lay lay lay
///My fingers are in my ears


Minot also had a much higher elevation at one time.

If you count the ice.

Snort

So did my place about a km higher in the last ice age but just after well in the mid west 20' deep or so

/goes for the prairies to to be country fair
//looking forward to north Texas underwater
///no more tar sands
 
2011-06-25 12:37:54 AM
Noctusxx: Ya, and the ones who stayed promptly went and looted the homes of the ones who left. Murdered each other over the warm beer and stolen TVs, and cried and wailed about how we all had abandoned them to the storm.

Don't act like they needed the hurricane as an excuse to do those things.
 
2011-06-25 12:38:10 AM
FilmBELOH20: mosstron: Prank Monkey: Being a guy from the midwest, we really don't give a flying fark what everybody else thinks. All you parasites that wait for the govt to come help you fix all the problems or disasters that happen kind of leave us questioning your fortitude. When bad stuff happens we start fixing it and rebuilding and helping our neighbors. I don't get the mindset that you wait for the .gov to come help you. Get your shiat together

I get so tired of midwesterners claiming the government doesn't help them. I happen to live in the Midwest and some of the folks at FEMA basically feel they should should just open up permanent shops in most places in the Midwest because they get so many fricken floods, tornados, etc. and then the local government declares a disaster and the state declares a disaster and then the feds declare a disaster and then FEMA comes in.

When your local municipality/state declaring a disaster is basically opening up local emergency funds and asking the federal government for help. When the federal government says yes they pay for 75% of pretty much all repairs and decisions made during the disaster. This includes stupid decisions made by local government officials like "Oh let's get in 100 more national guardsmen because FEMA will pay for it" attitudes. If the disaster is bad enough, the FEMA reimbursement rate goes to 90%.

/Live in the midwest
//Midwesterners talk big about not sucking the governments tit, but they do it on a regular basis and then turn around and vote for people that want to remove that tit permanently.

I don't disagree with anything you wrote, however, I do feel that there was a certain bootstrappy feel to how the community came together to get themselves out before the water came. During Katrina, an awful lot of people sat around waiting for people to move their shiat and them. As soon as we got the warnings, it was like watching a disaster movie scene with trucks and trailers and all manner of vehicles moving people out of the area. I would almost call it pre-action. We didn't wait for people to get us buses or whatever, we got our stuff out, and we got our neighbors' stuff out.


New Orleans wasn't just people standing around waiting for busses to come like the national news media led you to believe. Part of that disaster was that the local government told them to evacuate to a shelter and to bring a small amount of food for 2 or 3 days. Turned out the storm was much worse and busses had to come to that shelter to get them out of there. It would be like if in Minot they said "Hey everyone go to Minot State University. No worries!" And so people went there and then suddenly the flooding miraculously got a lot worse than expected and they said "Whoops, we have to evacuate you from here now." There are people that live in the midwest that refuse to leave their homes and then the government has to come bail them out even after they've been told to leave and they chose not to.

I actually work in government and I can tell you that the national media likes to bring out the worst in people and government as much as possible because that sort of news sells. The whole feel good everyone helping everyone and there are fluffy clouds everywhere doesn't sell advertisement space, so you didn't hear about how neighbors maybe helped neighbors in New Orleans in the upper midwest. Just like this article in fox news says absolutely nothing about how neighbors helped neighbors in Minot to get them out. We know about it because our local media shows it and reports it. The National Media simply doesn't because it's a feel good story that doesn't get people watching to see what happens next and thus doesn't get them more advertising dollars.
 
2011-06-25 12:38:18 AM
Up here in Saskatoon which is a few hours away from the flood zone, we are currently under a water restriction as the water treatment plant had the largest purifier go down due to the large amount of sand and such being kicked up by the river. I know quite a few people who have taken time off work to head back home to help the family farm get through this. At least the government is posting a surplus, at least until all the crop insurance cheques go out.

/sorry to those who are getting flooded because we had to open the dams
//the province has been preparing for this since the snow melted it could have been worse
 
2011-06-25 12:44:10 AM
UNHbeta19: I'm glad your all getting a laugh out of this as thousands of peoples lives are literally ripped apart and destroyed. You are all parasites

I always liked this line of thinking. So, their lives are so completely farked that it is wrong to laugh at them, right? Why? They might get offended? I got news for you ... when your life is THAT much trouble, you don't give a fark whether people are praying for you or mocking you. You simply don't care.
 
2011-06-25 12:44:36 AM
I grew up in Minot. I've spent a lot of time on the phone with my mum in the past couple of weeks, and the folks back home who I grew up with, around.

My mum's best friend, and one of the people who did the best he could to help be a positive male influence for me (my dad was a treasure, lemme tell you) is a diabetic with a wife who has major joint issues. Their assistance dogs are their lives, and right now they're trying desperately to find a way to keep them fed and sheltered since their home is completely under water, along with the homes of all of their extended family.

My childhood home is also completely under water at the moment, but hell, I didn't know the people who live there now, so it doesn't matter, right?

It's just really, really surreal.
 
2011-06-25 12:48:18 AM
Karma's a biatch.
 
2011-06-25 12:48:55 AM
oogmar...

Sucks AAVP9 the national guard could help, of course they won't since there all overseas
 
2011-06-25 12:49:25 AM
It's nice to see the Canadian equivalent to the USACE is just as incompetent.
 
2011-06-25 12:50:03 AM
oogmar: I grew up in Minot. I've spent a lot of time on the phone with my mum in the past couple of weeks, and the folks back home who I grew up with, around.

My mum's best friend, and one of the people who did the best he could to help be a positive male influence for me (my dad was a treasure, lemme tell you) is a diabetic with a wife who has major joint issues. Their assistance dogs are their lives, and right now they're trying desperately to find a way to keep them fed and sheltered since their home is completely under water, along with the homes of all of their extended family.

My childhood home is also completely under water at the moment, but hell, I didn't know the people who live there now, so it doesn't matter, right?

It's just really, really surreal.


They have an animal shelter at the NDSU extension center south of town. They might be able to point them in the direction of someone who can help care for the animals. The other thing to do is post on KXMC's facebook page that they need help. It's been a really fantastic resource for people who need it.

facebook.com/kxnewsminot
 
2011-06-25 12:52:44 AM
FilmBELOH20....

useful advice on my internet....
more likely than you'd think...

+1 internets
 
2011-06-25 12:52:57 AM
Porous Horace: Karma's a biatch.

???
 
2011-06-25 12:58:26 AM
May create green jobs.
 
2011-06-25 12:58:49 AM
planes: Rushm

planes: jaytkay I hope Mt Rushmore is OK

Do you have a map? Minot, NORTH Dakota is a long way from Mt. Rushmore, near Rapid City, SOUTH Dakota.



Good thing it's far away, too. I don't know if the farkING GRANITE MOUNTAIN would survive the rising waters.
 
2011-06-25 12:59:37 AM
Dammit, I failed so miserably in that last post. I tried, guys. I tried.
 
2011-06-25 01:00:58 AM
zez: I hope this doesn't turn into a repeat of 1993 again.



That piece of land between the Missouri and Mississippi rivers is the county I live in.

/not good times


Me too! St. Charles represent!

But this river flows into another river and then the Red River so I don't think it'll be a big deal by the time it comes down this way.
 
2011-06-25 01:01:08 AM
Live in one of the most agriculturally productive regions on the planet.
Complain when it floods.
Wat?
 
2011-06-25 01:01:13 AM
I grew up in shopping distance of Minot. Sorry to hear the place is gone.
 
2011-06-25 01:01:17 AM
Read TFA and love how it's so full of win with the hardware guys cheering the gopher and the guy who's wife shot the antelope. The upper midwest is such an awesome place with gophers and women who shoot antelopes. Seriously. I'm raising my fist in the air cheering for these people.
 
2011-06-25 01:04:05 AM
FilmBELOH20: I don't disagree with anything you wrote, however, I do feel that there was a certain bootstrappy feel to how the community came together to get themselves out before the water came. During Katrina, an awful lot of people sat around waiting for people to move their shiat and them. As soon as we got the warnings, it was like watching a disaster movie scene with trucks and trailers and all manner of vehicles moving people out of the area. I would almost call it pre-action. We didn't wait for people to get us buses or whatever, we got our stuff out, and we got our neighbors' stuff out.

You have your own cars.
 
2011-06-25 01:07:38 AM
She comes in colors everywhere...

Socialist

/War Bootstrap Whar
 
2011-06-25 01:07:49 AM
Ahem:

DON'T LIVE IN A FLOOD PLAIN IF YOU DON"T WANT A FLOOD.

Earth scientist rant off.
Sorry to hear about all the destruction, but come on, what did you expect?
 
2011-06-25 01:12:11 AM
Had a t-shirt that said: Why not Minot? Freezin' the reason!
but this really sucks!
 
2011-06-25 01:13:18 AM
FilmBELOH20: HempHead: Daedalus27: Hows is Minot AFB? Is it out of the flood zone or have they had to move the B-52s and the "special" weapons that is likely there. I know it is north of the city, but I don't know how that is in relation to the flooding.

SL Davis is commander of the 91st Missile Wing at Minot Air Force Base, which oversees 150 Minuteman III missiles located in underground launch silos over...

The silos are completely sealed. Plus, all of them are on high elevated areas.


How do the missiles get out?

How do the men get in?
 
2011-06-25 01:14:21 AM
Cynicism101: Ahem:

DON'T LIVE IN A FLOOD PLAIN IF YOU DON"T WANT A FLOOD.

Earth scientist rant off.
Sorry to hear about all the destruction, but come on, what did you expect?



Floods, earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanoes, hurricanes, tornadoes, blizzards, sandstorms, solar flares, meteor strikes, gay marriage...

Is there no safe pace to live anymore?
 
2011-06-25 01:14:27 AM
Cynicism101: Ahem:

DON'T LIVE IN A FLOOD PLAIN IF YOU DON"T WANT A FLOOD.

Earth scientist rant off.
Sorry to hear about all the destruction, but come on, what did you expect?


Ahem: Once Again.... The last major flood in the are was in 1969, and everyone was told that the levy system was built to withstand that level plus 8 ft. The 69 flood was dubbed a 100 year event, so most people have been told over and over again that they don't live on a flood plain, so they don't need flood insurance. This flood is approximately 15 feet higher than the 69 flood, and 8 feet higher than the last event of this scale, which was in the late 1800s. It's not like we were in a bowl below sea level. I'm two farking miles from the river - TWO MILES - and I have water 200 ft. from my house.
 
2011-06-25 01:17:16 AM
mcreadyblue: FilmBELOH20: HempHead: Daedalus27: Hows is Minot AFB? Is it out of the flood zone or have they had to move the B-52s and the "special" weapons that is likely there. I know it is north of the city, but I don't know how that is in relation to the flooding.

SL Davis is commander of the 91st Missile Wing at Minot Air Force Base, which oversees 150 Minuteman III missiles located in underground launch silos over...

The silos are completely sealed. Plus, all of them are on high elevated areas.

How do the missiles get out?

How do the men get in?


Really? How do you think guys get in to submarines? They have these neat things called "hatches". The "hatch" is connected a thingy called a "hinge" and that allows it to open or close.
 
2011-06-25 01:18:26 AM
Lived here for 6 years now... I have to say I'm majorly impressed with the people here.

Consider this: 12.000 people forced out of their homes. Only 300 of them ended up in a shelter. The rest? With friends or family in or around town.

Yeah, there's a lot of cliche good ole boys going on here in the Midwest, and a lot of yee-hawing, but in the end, the people here came together from the very start, and showed hospitality and an ability to move on and keep moving on together when nearly a quarter of the city went under.
 
2011-06-25 01:18:44 AM
Noctusxx: whither_apophis:

One million people evacuated New Orleans and surrounding areas prior to Katrina's landfall

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/08/28/hurricane.katrina/

Try not to strain your arm patting youself on the back there

Ya, and the ones who stayed promptly went and looted the homes of the ones who left. Murdered each other over the warm beer and stolen TVs, and cried and wailed about how we all had abandoned them to the storm.

While in ND, everyone got out, got their neighbors out, and no one is looting.

Also, its been YEARS now since Katrina, and most of that area is still a steaming pile of rubble. I would be happy to bet you that within a year Minot will have been rebuilt.

I wouldn't sing Louisiana's praises to highly there bub.


here, I will make it easy for you: 1,000,000 > 40,000. Can you tell me how many times 40,000 goes into 1,000,000? Show your work.

and good job letting your bigotry out, all I said was that the great majority of the residents did evacuate. I'm glad that it sounds like it's only property damage, but rebuilding homes is just a fark bit easier than rebuilding a city.
 
2011-06-25 01:19:26 AM
FilmBELOH20: mcreadyblue: FilmBELOH20: HempHead: Daedalus27: Hows is Minot AFB? Is it out of the flood zone or have they had to move the B-52s and the "special" weapons that is likely there. I know it is north of the city, but I don't know how that is in relation to the flooding.

SL Davis is commander of the 91st Missile Wing at Minot Air Force Base, which oversees 150 Minuteman III missiles located in underground launch silos over...

The silos are completely sealed. Plus, all of them are on high elevated areas.

How do the missiles get out?

How do the men get in?


Really? How do you think guys get in to submarines? They have these neat things called "hatches". The "hatch" is connected a thingy called a "hinge" and that allows it to open or close.



Yeah, but it's trickier to do when you're submerged.
 
2011-06-25 01:20:53 AM
Farker T: Cynicism101: Ahem:

DON'T LIVE IN A FLOOD PLAIN IF YOU DON"T WANT A FLOOD.

Earth scientist rant off.
Sorry to hear about all the destruction, but come on, what did you expect?


Floods, earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanoes, hurricanes, tornadoes, blizzards, sandstorms, solar flares, meteor strikes, gay marriage...

Is there no safe pace to live anymore?


Jersey.
 
2011-06-25 01:21:26 AM
FilmBELOH20 [TotalFark] 2011-06-25 01:14:27 AM
Cynicism101: Ahem:..

"The valley sits some 160 feet (50 m) below the surrounding plains..."

from wiki

errr...
 
2011-06-25 01:26:04 AM
Sid_6.7: This means that you call FEMA and register. Based on your income, you might get referred to the Small Business Administration (SBA) for a loan. If not, and your house flooded, and you have no insurance (and you do not have a pre-existing flood ins. requirement you failed to maintain) then you'll almost certainly get the maximum award. Unfortunately, that's only a bit over $30k.

Yeah, that still sucks.

/lives next to a flood plain.
//has flood insurance
///shiat is expensive
 
2011-06-25 01:26:51 AM
LacksSocialSkilzz: Lived here for 6 years now... I have to say I'm majorly impressed with the people here.

Consider this: 12.000 people forced out of their homes. Only 300 of them ended up in a shelter. The rest? With friends or family in or around town.

Yeah, there's a lot of cliche good ole boys going on here in the Midwest, and a lot of yee-hawing, but in the end, the people here came together from the very start, and showed hospitality and an ability to move on and keep moving on together when nearly a quarter of the city went under.


Where you is? I live on 20th St. NW north of the DQ on 4th Ave. I work on the south side near the mall. Hope you're safe....
 
2011-06-25 01:29:26 AM
FilmBELOH20: The last major flood in the are was in 1969, and everyone was told that the levy system was built to withstand that level plus 8 ft. The 69 flood was dubbed a 100 year event, so most people have been told over and over again that they don't live on a flood plain, so they don't need flood insurance. This flood is approximately 15 feet higher than the 69 flood, and 8 feet higher than the last event of this scale, which was in the late 1800s.

No levy can hold the restless waters. No feat of man can tame the river. If you're going to live close to one, always live like the liquid beast will come roaring from its bed at any moment.
 
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