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2011-06-23 02:18:50 AM  
www.dilbert.com

The prophecy is coming true
 
2011-06-23 02:28:54 AM  
I have one of those kneeling stool thingys.

Amazingly comfortable.
 
2011-06-23 02:31:38 AM  
Have these people never worked retail? 8 hours on your feet... even if you move around a lot... leaves you with very sore legs and feet at the end of the day.
 
2011-06-23 02:32:32 AM  
I'd buy a computer desk with cycling pedals and a generator. I'd ride that thing all day till I fed power back to the electric company and made them pay ME. Better than solar!
 
2011-06-23 02:32:38 AM  
Just drink more coffee and the jitters will burn the pounds off.

\the heart flutters means it's working
 
2011-06-23 02:34:51 AM  

Atharaenea: Have these people never worked retail? 8 hours on your feet... even if you move around a lot... leaves you with very sore legs and feet at the end of the day.


Try better shoes.

\worked 12 hour shifts in a factory that involved walking half the time
 
2011-06-23 02:36:00 AM  
I have a friend that works from home via his computer, and last week he decided that while he was on the clock he was going to start standing while working, for the same reasons mentioned in TFA. I used to do the same at my last job for a couple hours a day at least, even though the desks were designed to be sat at.

While I now tend to spend most my time in front of my PC, I am constantly moving my legs/fidgeting (bouncing my legs or tapping out drum beats with my feet [much to the dismay of my ex-coworkers at my last job], fiddling about with things in my hands while I watch movies, etc,), and walk everywhere if I need to get somewhere. So at least I have that going for me as far as burning calories/remaining 'active' while at home goes. If I'm on a phone call, I have to be on my feet and frantically pace about as well.
 
2011-06-23 02:39:06 AM  

gozar_the_destroyer: Atharaenea: Have these people never worked retail? 8 hours on your feet... even if you move around a lot... leaves you with very sore legs and feet at the end of the day.

Try better shoes.

\worked 12 hour shifts in a factory that involved walking half the time


That.

I've done many jobs requiring being on your feet for 8-12 hours a day. Good footwear is mandatory in that situation. Really cuts down on fatigue and pain. Even a decent set of insets will help.
 
2011-06-23 02:41:09 AM  

gozar_the_destroyer: Try better shoes.


I'm starting work in a hospital after the summer, and I am worried about my feet. I have to wear all white shoes, so I don't have unlimited options as a guy. I tried Dansko's, they don't make them big enough for my foot in white. I am looking at Spira- they feel comfy but I haven't stood for a shift in them yet. I also thought about z-coils, but the nearest dealer is an hour away and I haven't heard any personal referrals.

Any ideas? I usually wear a 12-13 wide. Price is no object if they are comfy. I used to work in a plant and wore Red Wing steel toes, those were pretty nice, but they don't have whites.
 
2011-06-23 02:43:08 AM  
I have flat feet so, F*ck standing!
 
2011-06-23 02:43:24 AM  

gozar_the_destroyer: Atharaenea: Have these people never worked retail? 8 hours on your feet... even if you move around a lot... leaves you with very sore legs and feet at the end of the day.

Try better shoes.

\worked 12 hour shifts in a factory that involved walking half the time


I had good shoes, with gel insoles, and they definitely helped. But I still couldn't wait to get off my feet at the end of the day.
 
2011-06-23 02:44:41 AM  
Heathful?! Why do the US insist on making up words?
 
2011-06-23 02:46:24 AM  

Atharaenea: Have these people never worked retail? 8 hours on your feet... even if you move around a lot... leaves you with very sore legs and feet at the end of the day.


Is it okay that, out of all the relatively hard jobs where somebody works on their feet all day, I found it funny that you picked 'retail'?

Construction manager... 10-12 hour days without ever sitting (unless I hafta poo)... $300 boots are worth it.
 
2011-06-23 02:47:01 AM  

sminkypinky: Heathful?! Why do the US insist on making up words?


It's funtabulous strategery for the edumacation of everyallsofus
 
2011-06-23 02:47:35 AM  
Totally absurd and junk science.

I'm not saying standing is bad, but the study suggesting that sitting at your computer will increase your risk of heart attack by 54% is a clear example of the "correlation = causation" fallacy that infest so many medical studies these days.

Obviously, many who sit around all day at computer desk jobs are generally very inactive, don't exercise ever, and eat an unhealthy diet. It's not the sitting itself--the sitting is merely one facet of an entire life that has no physical activity at all. Standing isn't going to do anything to solve that--what these people really need is an overall lifestyle change involving real exercise and diet.
 
2011-06-23 02:49:10 AM  

sminkypinky: Heathful?! Why do the US insist on making up words?


t2.gstatic.com
 
2011-06-23 02:51:41 AM  
Shoes are only part of the issue. If you have chronically sore feet, a visit to a pedorthist and some custom orthotics can make an incredible difference. I have very flat feet, and my ankles used to swell after longer (10-15km) hikes to the point where I could only hobble around camp for 3 days. With proper orthotics, I easily managed about 50km of the Inca trail with no discomfort. I wear mine all the time, even when doing jobs around the house.
 
2011-06-23 02:52:09 AM  

JonZoidberg: gozar_the_destroyer: Try better shoes.

I'm starting work in a hospital after the summer, and I am worried about my feet. I have to wear all white shoes, so I don't have unlimited options as a guy. I tried Dansko's, they don't make them big enough for my foot in white. I am looking at Spira- they feel comfy but I haven't stood for a shift in them yet. I also thought about z-coils, but the nearest dealer is an hour away and I haven't heard any personal referrals.

Any ideas? I usually wear a 12-13 wide. Price is no object if they are comfy. I used to work in a plant and wore Red Wing steel toes, those were pretty nice, but they don't have whites.


My wife uses white ones from here (new window) that are slip/oil resistant with steel toes. I would recommend at least slip resistant since wet floors happen so often. She has worked 12 hours shifts in them with no problems since they are pretty light compared to full work boots.

You can find a local dealer with their store locator on the main page if you want to try them on first, but I do assure you that they are very comfortable.
 
2011-06-23 02:53:35 AM  
I'm both in an office and on set at any given point of the week for my job. While on set I do a lot of walking / standing around. When in the office I could be sitting at the desk for 8-16 hours depending on the day, but I find that when on the phone, I like to stand, and I'm on the phone a lot. When I'm at home, I do pace while on the phone. I recently broke a bone at the side of my foot and haven't had the health insurance to be able to get a pin put in. So set days have been real hell lately. I've never been able to keep my legs still while sitting, even as a kid. Bounce me knee, cross, uncross my legs etc. Figure it's just a fidgety thing I never grew out of.
 
2011-06-23 02:55:15 AM  
And just what about those who are disabled and cannot stand/kneel?
 
2011-06-23 02:56:35 AM  
Each about an inch think.

Is Physorg a sponsor or it just our good luck to have their illiterate crap promulgated here at FARK?
Because they not only don't seem to know much about science, history or the English language, but they also have a hard time reporting their ignorant point of view.

It's like G4TV but they take themselves seriously, which is sad.
 
2011-06-23 02:58:13 AM  

Pray 4 Mojo: Atharaenea: Have these people never worked retail? 8 hours on your feet... even if you move around a lot... leaves you with very sore legs and feet at the end of the day.

Is it okay that, out of all the relatively hard jobs where somebody works on their feet all day, I found it funny that you picked 'retail'?

Construction manager... 10-12 hour days without ever sitting (unless I hafta poo)... $300 boots are worth it.


Love my $300 boots. I miss them at work since I can't wear them because of the steel toes. The composite toed electrician's shoes are pretty good but are no where near as comfortable.

\wish I would have had them when I worked retail even
\\not that I could have afforded them at that time
 
2011-06-23 03:05:05 AM  
well..
 
2011-06-23 03:05:21 AM  

JonZoidberg: gozar_the_destroyer: Try better shoes.

I'm starting work in a hospital after the summer, and I am worried about my feet. I have to wear all white shoes, so I don't have unlimited options as a guy. I tried Dansko's, they don't make them big enough for my foot in white. I am looking at Spira- they feel comfy but I haven't stood for a shift in them yet. I also thought about z-coils, but the nearest dealer is an hour away and I haven't heard any personal referrals.

Any ideas? I usually wear a 12-13 wide. Price is no object if they are comfy. I used to work in a plant and wore Red Wing steel toes, those were pretty nice, but they don't have whites.


WHITE SPRAY PAINT. Use several very light coats. Reapply as needed
 
2011-06-23 03:07:35 AM  
members.frys.com


Me after a 12 hour day still laughing at you pussies...
 
2011-06-23 03:08:29 AM  
Years ago we had a boss who implemented this. We purchased new cubicles that could support desks lifted to be the adjusted for the individuals height so everyone could work standing up because it was so much healthier and he felt we'd all be more productive.

For the first week or so everyone pretty much loved it, or pretended to. By the end of the month, the complaints were so bad that we had to go out and purchase special chairs that could be raised to the height of the desks. We couldn't lower the desks, because most people would still work standing up and would only use the chairs when relaxing or feeling sick, or so the line of reasoning went.

By the second month there wasn't a single person who would work standing, ever for just a part of the day. Instead everyone was sitting on their super high chairs at their super high desks.
 
2011-06-23 03:09:56 AM  
Stupid tag? I don't get it. This seems like common sense to me.
 
2011-06-23 03:14:02 AM  
I have worked in construction quite a bit, and have never had a problem being on my feet working and moving all day. However, if I stand still for anything more than about 15 minutes my lower back starts screaming.

I'm 6' tall, about 160lbs, late 20s, and in pretty darn good shape, but feel absolutely decrepit if I have to stand still anywhere for any amount of time. I have changed up my shoes and even tried some different insoles and it's always an issue. I can't really afford a pediatrist, anybody else have this issue?


/has been happening as long as I can remember
//bosses think i'm being lazy when I sit down
///give me some work to do, and I won't have to sit down!
 
2011-06-23 03:16:39 AM  

ShawnDoc: Years ago we had a boss who implemented this. We purchased new cubicles that could support desks lifted to be the adjusted for the individuals height so everyone could work standing up because it was so much healthier and he felt we'd all be more productive.

For the first week or so everyone pretty much loved it, or pretended to. By the end of the month, the complaints were so bad that we had to go out and purchase special chairs that could be raised to the height of the desks. We couldn't lower the desks, because most people would still work standing up and would only use the chairs when relaxing or feeling sick, or so the line of reasoning went.

By the second month there wasn't a single person who would work standing, ever for just a part of the day. Instead everyone was sitting on their super high chairs at their super high desks.


But, at least you were super high
 
2011-06-23 03:17:54 AM  

ShawnDoc: Years ago we had a boss who implemented this. We purchased new cubicles that could support desks lifted to be the adjusted for the individuals height so everyone could work standing up because it was so much healthier and he felt we'd all be more productive.

For the first week or so everyone pretty much loved it, or pretended to. By the end of the month, the complaints were so bad that we had to go out and purchase special chairs that could be raised to the height of the desks. We couldn't lower the desks, because most people would still work standing up and would only use the chairs when relaxing or feeling sick, or so the line of reasoning went.

By the second month there wasn't a single person who would work standing, ever for just a part of the day. Instead everyone was sitting on their super high chairs at their super high desks.


You all sound fat.

Not really, but I'm surprised that people liked it at the beginning and *then* got sick of it. I started standing while working a majority of the time about six months ago, because sitting too much was giving me hip problems. The first few days were rough, but then it got pretty easy.

I guess it's easier if you have a reason to want to do it, though.
 
2011-06-23 03:17:55 AM  
Ive been sitting 8 hours a day since pre-school
 
2011-06-23 03:18:26 AM  

ShawnDoc: Years ago we had a boss who implemented this. We purchased new cubicles that could support desks lifted to be the adjusted for the individuals height so everyone could work standing up because it was so much healthier and he felt we'd all be more productive.

For the first week or so everyone pretty much loved it, or pretended to. By the end of the month, the complaints were so bad that we had to go out and purchase special chairs that could be raised to the height of the desks. We couldn't lower the desks, because most people would still work standing up and would only use the chairs when relaxing or feeling sick, or so the line of reasoning went.

By the second month there wasn't a single person who would work standing, ever for just a part of the day. Instead everyone was sitting on their super high chairs at their super high desks.


Do you work here:

analogmedium.com

\hot like an overthruster
 
2011-06-23 03:24:13 AM  
"Standing for work is nothing new."

Color me gobsmacked.


Really now, more horsesassery?
 
2011-06-23 03:24:47 AM  
Pray 4 Mojo

Atharaenea: Have these people never worked retail? 8 hours on your feet... even if you move around a lot... leaves you with very sore legs and feet at the end of the day.

Is it okay that, out of all the relatively hard jobs where somebody works on their feet all day, I found it funny that you picked 'retail'?

Construction manager... 10-12 hour days without ever sitting (unless I hafta poo)... $300 boots are worth it.


I've done construction, and I've stood behind a cash register. Standing in one spot for eight hours was way tougher.
 
2011-06-23 03:24:53 AM  
kneeling stool thingys are good as long as you have good posture. I've always sat down all day programming and writing. Don't think I could handle the velcro. Two years ago I hurt my back and it took more than a month to get it back right, so I tried standing up to write code and stories. It was interesting, but I'll take a good seat any day.

So sitting doesn't burn calories! Am I fat at 165 pounds and don't realise?
 
2011-06-23 03:26:01 AM  
I'm 9 1/2 hours into a 12 hour shift at a plastics plant, so I'm really getting a kick out of some of these replies...
 
Ral
2011-06-23 03:26:29 AM  

Atharaenea: gozar_the_destroyer: Atharaenea: Have these people never worked retail? 8 hours on your feet... even if you move around a lot... leaves you with very sore legs and feet at the end of the day.

Try better shoes.

\worked 12 hour shifts in a factory that involved walking half the time

I had good shoes, with gel insoles, and they definitely helped. But I still couldn't wait to get off my feet at the end of the day.


Insoles can make a really big difference. I've started using the green Superfeet insoles in my work boots. My feet don't get sore anymore and I don't feel as drained later.
 
2011-06-23 03:27:39 AM  

JonZoidberg: gozar_the_destroyer: Try better shoes.

I'm starting work in a hospital after the summer, and I am worried about my feet. I have to wear all white shoes, so I don't have unlimited options as a guy. I tried Dansko's, they don't make them big enough for my foot in white. I am looking at Spira- they feel comfy but I haven't stood for a shift in them yet. I also thought about z-coils, but the nearest dealer is an hour away and I haven't heard any personal referrals.

Any ideas? I usually wear a 12-13 wide. Price is no object if they are comfy. I used to work in a plant and wore Red Wing steel toes, those were pretty nice, but they don't have whites.


Considered Leather shoe dye? It's a pain, but better than constant misery from bad shoes.
 
2011-06-23 03:29:08 AM  

Corn_Fed: Totally absurd and junk science.

I'm not saying standing is bad, but the study suggesting that sitting at your computer will increase your risk of heart attack by 54% is a clear example of the "correlation = causation" fallacy that infest so many medical studies these days.

Obviously, many who sit around all day at computer desk jobs are generally very inactive, don't exercise ever, and eat an unhealthy diet. It's not the sitting itself--the sitting is merely one facet of an entire life that has no physical activity at all. Standing isn't going to do anything to solve that--what these people really need is an overall lifestyle change involving real exercise and diet.


It's not junk science, there are drawbacks to sitting and standing both. The best way to offset the negative physiological effects of sitting (reduced circulation, poor back posture etc.) is to make sure you spend at least 10 minutes out of each hour up either standing or moving around. If you decide to try a stand up station, don't go waste a ton of money on an "ergonomic" stand up desk, you can put some crude, effective and most importantly cheap fixes into place to lift up a normal desk for stand up use.
I've had one for a year and a half now, and not only have I seen weight loss since I've been using it, but I feel a lot better too. The chair was kicking my ass.

Citations:
N.E.A.T. (new window)
Link (new window)
 
2011-06-23 03:30:54 AM  

bingethinker: Pray 4 Mojo

Atharaenea: Have these people never worked retail? 8 hours on your feet... even if you move around a lot... leaves you with very sore legs and feet at the end of the day.

Is it okay that, out of all the relatively hard jobs where somebody works on their feet all day, I found it funny that you picked 'retail'?

Construction manager... 10-12 hour days without ever sitting (unless I hafta poo)... $300 boots are worth it.

I've done construction, and I've stood behind a cash register. Standing in one spot for eight hours was way tougher.


Wasn't cracking wise or anything... it just made me giggle for some reason. Also, I build retail stores and the growing protocol is for anti-fatigue mats or flooring anywhere an employee might stand for more than 5 or 10 minutes. It's about time.
 
2011-06-23 03:34:39 AM  

Trolljegeren: JonZoidberg: gozar_the_destroyer: Try better shoes.

I'm starting work in a hospital after the summer, and I am worried about my feet. I have to wear all white shoes, so I don't have unlimited options as a guy. I tried Dansko's, they don't make them big enough for my foot in white. I am looking at Spira- they feel comfy but I haven't stood for a shift in them yet. I also thought about z-coils, but the nearest dealer is an hour away and I haven't heard any personal referrals.

Any ideas? I usually wear a 12-13 wide. Price is no object if they are comfy. I used to work in a plant and wore Red Wing steel toes, those were pretty nice, but they don't have whites.

Considered Leather shoe dye? It's a pain, but better than constant misery from bad shoes.


would...would those be loafer lighteners?
 
2011-06-23 03:46:36 AM  
what does "pretty darn good shape" mean? your weight/height, sounds like you're lacking muscle/core strength/endurance and you're collapsing.

1. posture. check it out. engage shoulder blades

2. core/back strengthening. planks, birddogs, low back extensions, squats, ab/oblique work, lat pulldowns/chin ups, mid-rows, yoga

3. stretching. yoga poses: child's, cat/cow, triangle

4. mid-distance cardio. avoid cycling/spinning

5. sleeping position. firm mattress. on back is best, possible pillow underneath knees. side is 2nd best. straight line, not curled. pillow to clutch, small pillow between knees. ixnay stomach position

bet these will help with commitment. also many good books on back health.

/my 2 cents
 
2011-06-23 03:47:47 AM  
There's a huge difference between standing in one spot all day and walking around for most of the day. Even with those stupid mats under you and the whole bending your knees a little while you're in your work area trick they teach you standing at a register kills your legs.

The work I do these days I wear a respirator and rubber boots while walking around for ten hour days and I don't feel it at all. I easily clock a couple miles a day and it feels great.
 
2011-06-23 03:49:08 AM  

JonZoidberg: gozar_the_destroyer: Try better shoes.

I'm starting work in a hospital after the summer, and I am worried about my feet. I have to wear all white shoes, so I don't have unlimited options as a guy. I tried Dansko's, they don't make them big enough for my foot in white. I am looking at Spira- they feel comfy but I haven't stood for a shift in them yet. I also thought about z-coils, but the nearest dealer is an hour away and I haven't heard any personal referrals.

Any ideas? I usually wear a 12-13 wide. Price is no object if they are comfy. I used to work in a plant and wore Red Wing steel toes, those were pretty nice, but they don't have whites.


http://www.batesfootwear.com/US/en-US/Product.mvc.aspx/12349M/0/Mens/B​ates-Lite s -White-Leather-Oxford?dimensions=0

Might not really be what you're looking for though.
 
2011-06-23 03:51:46 AM  

RAGUS: I have worked in construction quite a bit, and have never had a problem being on my feet working and moving all day. However, if I stand still for anything more than about 15 minutes my lower back starts screaming.

I'm 6' tall, about 160lbs, late 20s, and in pretty darn good shape, but feel absolutely decrepit if I have to stand still anywhere for any amount of time. I have changed up my shoes and even tried some different insoles and it's always an issue. I can't really afford a pediatrist, anybody else have this issue?


/has been happening as long as I can remember
//bosses think i'm being lazy when I sit down
///give me some work to do, and I won't have to sit down!


i biffed on the direct reply to you. see my post above
 
2011-06-23 04:01:18 AM  
I recently decided to buy a pair of those funny looking shoes with arc support that supposedly help you burn more calories. While I really doubt the calorie burning aspect I found that they are incredibly more comfortable and plus my walking speed is greater too.

Mind you, I don't naturally walk heel-toe like most shoes force me to
 
2011-06-23 04:23:00 AM  
You know, I wouldn't have liked the idea of a standing desk to work at a few months ago, being that I am a fat lazy bastard. But I was at a meeting somewhere and had to charge my laptop a middle height semi table. I actually kind of liked standing to type there, hell if I had one of these it may increase my productivity and health.

/6'4" 315
//Not a troll reply
///Seriously looking for a table space at a standing level around here.
//// Addicted to slashies
 
2011-06-23 04:25:05 AM  

gozar_the_destroyer: ShawnDoc: Years ago we had a boss who implemented this. We purchased new cubicles that could support desks lifted to be the adjusted for the individuals height so everyone could work standing up because it was so much healthier and he felt we'd all be more productive.

For the first week or so everyone pretty much loved it, or pretended to. By the end of the month, the complaints were so bad that we had to go out and purchase special chairs that could be raised to the height of the desks. We couldn't lower the desks, because most people would still work standing up and would only use the chairs when relaxing or feeling sick, or so the line of reasoning went.

By the second month there wasn't a single person who would work standing, ever for just a part of the day. Instead everyone was sitting on their super high chairs at their super high desks.

Do you work here:

\hot like an overthruster


cripes, that was exactly what I was thinking
/Oscillation Overthruster
 
2011-06-23 04:26:47 AM  
Where can I get me some of those "black pads that about an inch think" to stand on. I mean, we don't even try anymore. No proofreading, no editing, just some college kid mashing keys and saying "I am a jurnlist!"
 
2011-06-23 04:27:22 AM  

JonZoidberg: gozar_the_destroyer: Try better shoes.

I'm starting work in a hospital after the summer, and I am worried about my feet. I have to wear all white shoes, so I don't have unlimited options as a guy. I tried Dansko's, they don't make them big enough for my foot in white. I am looking at Spira- they feel comfy but I haven't stood for a shift in them yet. I also thought about z-coils, but the nearest dealer is an hour away and I haven't heard any personal referrals.

Any ideas? I usually wear a 12-13 wide. Price is no object if they are comfy. I used to work in a plant and wore Red Wing steel toes, those were pretty nice, but they don't have whites.


Sketchers shape ups. they have a work-styled line.
I sometimes walk miles around convention centers for my job, and these so far have been the best.
 
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