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2011-06-20 10:37:32 AM  
The closest thing atheists have to a church service is NPR's Science Friday - as it should be.

And as an atheist I want to bludgeon some sense into Newdow with a collection of holy texts.
 
2011-06-20 10:39:52 AM  
These people are retarded.
 
2011-06-20 10:43:07 AM  
"2009-05-25 Sermon"
This submission seems ... late.

Also, nice intro dude. Did you pick that tip up from the 1996 edition of Video Editing for Dummies?

Who is this guy? I lasted 1min50 in before closing. Did he get to the point?
 
2011-06-20 10:50:49 AM  
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2011-06-20 10:50:59 AM  

UNC_Samurai: And as an atheist I want to bludgeon some sense into Newdow with a collection of holy texts.


/thread
 
2011-06-20 10:52:02 AM  
I understand that a need to belong to a group is sort of innate in human consciousness, but couldn't these folks just, like, form a book club instead?
 
2011-06-20 12:00:18 PM  

Aarontology: These people are retarded.


Seriously... the reason I'm an atheist is so I don't have to go to church.
 
2011-06-20 12:42:52 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: I understand that a need to belong to a group is sort of innate in human consciousness, but couldn't these folks just, like, form a book club instead?


Tribalism is one of the fundamental issues that we will have to address as a race before we can truly move forward into any sort of "enlightened" age.
 
2011-06-20 01:28:54 PM  
kingoomieiii
Daily_show_you're_not_helping.jpg

Came to make this same comment.
 
2011-06-20 01:30:29 PM  
People like Newdow are a good lesson in humility for all people, if viewed correctly.
Just be aware that whatever you believe, or don't believe, and no matter how sound, and well-thought-out your beliefs or lack thereof may be - somewhere on this planet there is someone who shares you most cherished beliefs - and is the biggest f**king idiot you ever met in your life.
 
2011-06-20 01:31:48 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: I understand that a need to belong to a group is sort of innate in human consciousness, but couldn't these folks just, like, form a book club instead?


Are book clubs tax exempt?
 
2011-06-20 01:34:25 PM  
You're doing it wrong.
 
2011-06-20 01:35:19 PM  
Religion is practice.
Anything can be a religion.
 
2011-06-20 01:36:35 PM  

s2s2s2: Religion is practice.
Anything can be a religion.


Even evolution and global warming, right? Oh, and liberalism.
 
2011-06-20 01:39:06 PM  

ThatGuyGreg: Aarontology: These people are retarded.

Seriously... the reason I'm an atheist is so I don't have to go to church.


That's why I always considered Satanism to be the most foolish religion. You spent all that effort leaving Christianity just to play the game game on the other (predestinted to lose) team? Why not just quit entirely?

Then again, this is how much of atheism is percieved/portrayed. Look up "Hollyword Atheist" on TVTropes, basically it's the idea that atheists don't actually not belive in a god(s), they are just mad and hurt and turned off from mainsteam religion. No one could actually not believe, they just say that as a result of hurt feelings.
 
2011-06-20 01:40:43 PM  
Next up: We learn why "bald" is a hair color.
 
2011-06-20 01:50:28 PM  
I'm an agnostic. I'm not sure if atheist actually exist.
 
2011-06-20 01:51:14 PM  
Well, it looks like the militantly religious and th militantly atheistic just keep on proving the humanists are correct on a daily basis.

/people are people.
 
2011-06-20 01:52:14 PM  
Since the holy farkin' bible is a book, could I bring that up during book club?
 
2011-06-20 01:55:57 PM  

Girl Pants: That's why I always considered Satanism to be the most foolish religion. You spent all that effort leaving Christianity just to play the game game on the other (predestinted to lose) team? Why not just quit entirely?


You'll notice that the Satanist church's teachings match almost identically with Ron Paul's. I don't think it's a coincidence.....
 
2011-06-20 01:58:07 PM  

BillCo: I'm an agnostic. I'm not sure if atheist actually exist.


Shiat, I wish I had the screen grab I took from the Metalocalypse episode where Murderface tries to find religion.

Agnostics protest outside of a Church of Atheism with signs saying "There may be no such thing as atheists." and "Say maybe to God."
 
2011-06-20 02:01:16 PM  

BillCo: I'm an agnostic. I'm not sure if atheist actually exist.


i51.tinypic.com
 
2011-06-20 02:07:00 PM  
Michael Newdow is 10 pounds of bulls**t in a 5 pound bag.

I'm as athy as the next guy, but this is just stupid.
 
2011-06-20 02:12:58 PM  
*facepalm*
 
2011-06-20 02:13:00 PM  

Jackpot777: Well, it looks like the militantly religious and th militantly atheistic just keep on proving the humanists are correct on a daily basis.

/people are people.


So why should it be that you and I should get along so awfully?
 
2011-06-20 02:18:56 PM  

kingoomieiii: Daily_show_you're_not_helping.jpg


Came to post this. There, that was easy.
 
2011-06-20 02:19:43 PM  

ThatGuyGreg: Aarontology: These people are retarded.

Seriously... the reason I'm an atheist is so I don't have to go to church.


Huh. The reason I'm an atheist is that I don't believe God exists.
 
2011-06-20 02:19:49 PM  

BillCo: I'm an agnostic. I'm not sure if atheist actually exist.


I'm a dyslexic agnostic with insomnia. I'm up all night wondering if there really is a Dog.

Also, Newdow: YOUR BLOG SUCKS

/or vlog
//whatever
 
2011-06-20 02:20:23 PM  

Anagrammer: Next up: We learn why "bald" is a hair color.


since his argument is that silence is speech when it comes to the US Constitution, then atheism is a religion in that same arena. Atheists should be constitutionally protected in their beliefs in exactly the same way that members of other religions are.
 
2011-06-20 02:24:53 PM  
Excuse me, but I have to get back to my hobby of not collecting stamps.
 
2011-06-20 02:27:41 PM  
I understand that atheism needs to be more or less treated as a religion from a legal perspective, since otherwise one could make the argument that religious freedom protections don't apply to atheists. Naturally this would be a very bad thing.

However, if you go around declaring yourself an actual church you would be seriously missing the point. If nothing else it leads to the creation of a "religion of hating religion". Where pretty much everything wrong with the world is somehow connected to religion (and everything good is always in spite of, or because of the rejection of, religion) regardless of actual evidence.

Personally, I think this is because human beings are driven to believe in something greater then themselves. If they are non-religious, this drive is still there. Agnostics tend to satisfy this drive with a vaguely defined "something", that they may or may not think much about. In more authoritarian governments, this drive is satisfied by the government itself (hence why some of the worst modern governments were officially atheist). But militant atheists seem to replace this drive with a hatred of all things religious. It is their higher calling, their holy cause, their crusade.

I am certain someone will reply and explain that fighting against religion is different from pushing a religious view. To some extent, you will be right as you use different methods and fight for a different cause. But the mentality is still the same.
 
2011-06-20 02:29:19 PM  
Ugh.
Insert picture of Mary Elizabeth from The Abyss: "Do me a favor? Stay off my side."
 
2011-06-20 02:35:26 PM  

s2s2s2: Religion is practice.
Anything can be a religion.


Exactly. And since everyone practices something, that thing is a religion, and is tax-exempt by law. Ergo everyone is exempt from paying taxes.

/this is what happens when you don't follow definitions, kids
//definitions = good, since they keep anything from being everything
 
2011-06-20 02:40:22 PM  
Not helping indeed.

My favorite is when a religous person accuses an atheist of being religious too....as if it is some sort of insult or something. "Hey, you're no smarter than me!!! HaHa!!"
 
2011-06-20 02:41:25 PM  

ThatGuyGreg: Aarontology: These people are retarded.

Seriously... the reason I'm an atheist is so I don't have to go to church.


You're doing it wrong. Be atheist because you believe that God doesn't exist and that no reasonable proof of God's existence is obtainable. Pretending to be atheist because you're too lazy/hungover/whatever to get out of bed and to a building with other people isn't being atheist....it's being lazy.

convenience != convictions
 
2011-06-20 02:46:50 PM  

kingoomieiii: Even evolution and global warming, right? Oh, and liberalism


Are those included in everything, Mr Smarty Pants?
 
2011-06-20 02:47:30 PM  
Wow. What a moron.
 
2011-06-20 02:49:57 PM  

Non-evil Monkey: I understand that atheism needs to be more or less treated as a religion from a legal perspective, since otherwise one could make the argument that religious freedom protections don't apply to atheists. Naturally this would be a very bad thing.

However, if you go around declaring yourself an actual church you would be seriously missing the point. If nothing else it leads to the creation of a "religion of hating religion". Where pretty much everything wrong with the world is somehow connected to religion (and everything good is always in spite of, or because of the rejection of, religion) regardless of actual evidence.

Personally, I think this is because human beings are driven to believe in something greater then themselves. If they are non-religious, this drive is still there. Agnostics tend to satisfy this drive with a vaguely defined "something", that they may or may not think much about. In more authoritarian governments, this drive is satisfied by the government itself (hence why some of the worst modern governments were officially atheist). But militant atheists seem to replace this drive with a hatred of all things religious. It is their higher calling, their holy cause, their crusade.

I am certain someone will reply and explain that fighting against religion is different from pushing a religious view. To some extent, you will be right as you use different methods and fight for a different cause. But the mentality is still the same.


In religion you're giving up free will and self determination. Simply the act of praying to god, instead of taking the time and effort to improve your own situation, degrades the human condition. Everything we've accomplished has been solely a human endeavor, claiming a god had anything to do with it is taking away from the greatness of our collective accomplishments.
 
2011-06-20 02:54:24 PM  
It takes just as much faith to be atheist as it does to be of a religion. To not believe in a god is one thing, but to assert that there is no god wholly different. One requires lack of proof, the other requires affirmative proof.

I think both sides are a bit screwy....
 
2011-06-20 02:59:57 PM  

Macinfarker: It takes just as much faith to be atheist as it does to be of a religion. To not believe in a god is one thing, but to assert that there is no god wholly different. One requires lack of proof, the other requires affirmative proof.

I think both sides are a bit screwy....


Every atheist thread gets a post like this and then it becomes exactly the same as every other atheist thread. Therefore, there is no god.
 
2011-06-20 03:00:08 PM  

Macinfarker: It takes just as much faith to be atheist as it does to be of a religion. To not believe in a god is one thing, but to assert that there is no god wholly different. One requires lack of proof, the other requires affirmative proof.

I think both sides are a bit screwy....


You know how I know you don't know the definition of "atheist"?
 
2011-06-20 03:00:24 PM  
Being one of the few that apparently have actually watched the whole thing... I agree with much of what he says. Definition of religion, morality, etc. are very important if we hope to exist in a world without religion we must think of these things in a logistical way.
 
2011-06-20 03:02:45 PM  

s2s2s2: kingoomieiii: Even evolution and global warming, right? Oh, and liberalism

Are those included in everything, Mr Smarty Pants?


It's dumb, anyway. The issue isn't that "everything can be a religion", because that's stupid. Not everything is a belief system. The issue is that "any belief can be held with the overly self-righteous determination of a religious one".

However, if I firmly, militantly believe that the sea appears blue, based on evidence, would say I believe that "religiously"?
 
2011-06-20 03:03:17 PM  

Manfred J. Hattan: ThatGuyGreg: Aarontology: These people are retarded.

Seriously... the reason I'm an atheist is so I don't have to go to church.

Huh. The reason I'm an atheist is that I don't believe God exists.


For fark's sake, you're saying the atheists have DENOMINATIONS now? One doesn't want to go to church, the other simply doesn't believe in any kind of god, I'm sure there's more.

Watching the atheist unholy wars is going to be amusing...
 
2011-06-20 03:06:34 PM  

Macinfarker: It takes just as much faith to be atheist as it does to be of a religion. To not believe in a god is one thing, but to assert that there is no god wholly different. One requires lack of proof, the other requires affirmative proof.

I think both sides are a bit screwy....


If there were a god, people would stop making this same ridiculous claim in every single thread that mentions atheism.
 
2011-06-20 03:09:03 PM  

FloydA: Macinfarker: It takes just as much faith to be atheist as it does to be of a religion. To not believe in a god is one thing, but to assert that there is no god wholly different. One requires lack of proof, the other requires affirmative proof.

I think both sides are a bit screwy....

If there were a god, people would stop making this same ridiculous claim in every single thread that mentions atheism.


i457.photobucket.com
 
2011-06-20 03:10:20 PM  

Girl Pants: ThatGuyGreg: Aarontology: These people are retarded.

Seriously... the reason I'm an atheist is so I don't have to go to church.

That's why I always considered Satanism to be the most foolish religion. You spent all that effort leaving Christianity just to play the game game on the other (predestinted to lose) team? Why not just quit entirely?


That's the problem I have with neo-pagans, Wiccans, and othe new-age dumbasses: They've allowed themselves to realize that Christianity is bullshiat, but they can't bring themselves to realize that all religion is bullshiat.
 
2011-06-20 03:14:56 PM  

Macinfarker: It takes just as much faith to be atheist as it does to be of a religion. To not believe in a god is one thing, but to assert that there is no god wholly different. One requires lack of proof, the other requires affirmative proof.

I think both sides are a bit screwy....


Well, the important part is that you've found a way to feel superior to both.
You clearly have no idea how atheism is actually defined. Not believing in god and believing there is no god are distinct things, but both are atheism.

By the way, I find your assertion that dinosaurs aren't alive today a little screwy. After all, that requires a lack of proof.
 
2011-06-20 03:35:05 PM  
and so it begins

/in before crocoduck
 
2011-06-20 04:04:49 PM  
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United Atheist Alliance
/Agnosticism is the only true scientific truth. We don't know.
 
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