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2011-06-19 08:41:09 AM  
This article would have been more true and less derp if it was just about them cutting funds to the poor. Then again, if that was the case no one would probably notice or care.
 
2011-06-19 08:42:53 AM  
Ow My Balls: It's not the kids' faults they were born. They had no choice in the matter. Having the most advanced society in the history of mankind should compel us to take care of them, not only for their sake, but to also break the cycle.

Dammit, man, this is FARK! We don't make sense on Fark! NEEDS MOAR WHAARGRBL

/born into poverty
//on food stamps for much of childhood
///broke the cycle, now...lower middle class
////[cue sad trombone]
 
2011-06-19 08:53:18 AM  
Maybe Republicans think people can take care of themselves and azaleas can't.
 
2011-06-19 09:16:24 AM  
The bill merely asks the association to support azaleas. It even asks them raise funds for it ie the money isnt coming from the public purse.

Overall the money for foodstamps is set to 71 billion. 2 billion less than what Obama asked for. It doesnt sound too bad does it? And as Obama says he's working on jobs then surely number of people on foodstamps should fall next year.
 
2011-06-19 09:24:11 AM  
But we must save 'cowboy poetry' at all costs, right hypocrites?
 
2011-06-19 09:31:09 AM  
It's no fun,
Being an illegal azalean.
 
2011-06-19 09:34:20 AM  
Attention poor people: You are less important than azaleas

www.gracesgraphics.com

Approves
 
2011-06-19 09:38:51 AM  
We all know that "poor people" is code for "black people," and "aid" is code for "socialist totalitarian reparations for slavery that was caused by Democrats in the first place, in spite of what the Founding Fathers wanted when they sent Paul Revere off on his bell-ringin', gun-shootin', British-warnin' ride, you betcha."

And "azaleas" is code for "tax cuts for billionaires."

The only way to balance the budget is to *finger quote* plant more azaleas.
 
2011-06-19 09:42:13 AM  
But remember republucans are "Christians".
 
2011-06-19 10:27:23 AM  
I read "most" of the article. But did it actually mention how much was being spent on maintaining the Arboretum? I find it unlikely their spending half a billion dollars. Yet how much is still being appropriated to welfare after any sort of proposed cuts? Not sure about that figure either.

As children, my brother and I were recipients of the old Gov't cheese and bread in those generic brown boxes.

Now, I am only speaking for myself and not the actions of my parents or anyone else. I'm completely okay with not having my own kids right now because I am completely capable of taking care of myself financially, but I'm not responsible enough to take care of kids as well.

(So now am I supposed to miss out on some nice azaleas I'll never see just to ensure Shaniqua can get some Similac for her forth baby because that particular baby's daddy isn't paying child support because he doesn't work?! Well that's a bummer.)
 
2011-06-19 10:31:16 AM  
Some "poor people" recently tried to sell me $300.00 of food stamps for $150.00,. I asked how they could do that to their kids and they said the local churches provide them with plenty of food.
 
2011-06-19 10:33:41 AM  

Slappajo: Did I miss the part where they said how much money was being funneled to the azalea's?

I wouldn't think that it is the entire $832 million that is being cut from WIC.

I think I'll go with the...buh, buh, but the azaleas are only like 0.000098357934578934578% of the deficit so why does it matter?


BECAUSE RACISM, THAT'S WHY!
 
2011-06-19 10:40:34 AM  
Did everything in the right order. College, then marriage, THEN children.

I think it's reasonable to not have to expect all the tech jobs going to India, creating an over saturated market in the U.S. So yeah, my family and I are on food stamps.

But I'm back in college and upping the ante by retooling for a different field. When I'm done I'll send my family to be around their (maternal) parents/grandparents and go find work. When I've reestablished a base, I'll call for them.

/hey, it's the best I can bloody do.
//at least if I screw up when I'm out there, I won't kill them along with me.
 
2011-06-19 10:42:59 AM  

smitty04: Some "poor people" recently tried to sell me $300.00 of food stamps for $150.00,. I asked how they could do that to their kids and they said the local churches provide them with plenty of food.


They gotta get them a flat screen! Duh! At least a 42". You don't expect little Jimmy to watch Blu-ray movies on a standard def TV, do you? Sheesh! And Xbox on an SDTV? Forget about it!
 
2011-06-19 10:46:39 AM  

smitty04: Some "poor people" recently tried to sell me $300.00 of food stamps for $150.00,. I asked how they could do that to their kids and they said the local churches provide them with plenty of food.


A shame right-wingers don't hold corperations to the same 'We caught a few of you cheating, now you'll ALL have to do without!' standard when it comes to handing out cash.
 
2011-06-19 10:47:02 AM  

ajgeek: Did everything in the right order. College, then marriage, THEN children.

I think it's reasonable to not have to expect all the tech jobs going to India, creating an over saturated market in the U.S. So yeah, my family and I are on food stamps.

But I'm back in college and upping the ante by retooling for a different field. When I'm done I'll send my family to be around their (maternal) parents/grandparents and go find work. When I've reestablished a base, I'll call for them.

/hey, it's the best I can bloody do.
//at least if I screw up when I'm out there, I won't kill them along with me.


Bummer of a break. Good luck to you out there.
 
2011-06-19 10:47:26 AM  
So, fetuses > azaleas > poor people > immigrants > gays...

Is this the proper order for republicans?
 
2011-06-19 10:50:04 AM  

smitty04: Some "poor people" recently tried to sell me $300.00 of food stamps for $150.00,. I asked how they could do that to their kids and they said the local churches provide them with plenty of food


Yeah i believe ya.

Fark wouldn't let you say it if it wasn't true.
 
2011-06-19 10:50:09 AM  

smitty04: Some "poor people" recently tried to sell me $300.00 of food stamps for $150.00,. I asked how they could do that to their kids and they said the local churches provide them with plenty of food.


When was this, 1996? I thought they all went to the Bridge/EBT cards in the past decade.
 
2011-06-19 10:53:12 AM  
All of these comments, and nobody really touched on the problem with the story:

It's false.

The overall budget for WIC and Food Stamps alone is going UP, by a good amount (about $7 billion - compare that to the $832 million not-really-a-"cut" in another program that gets to make up the money from other funding sources and accounts, which they forgot to mention). What happened is that the amount Obama asked for in a Fiscal Year 2012 request was reduced a bit from his overly-large increase.

This is pretty normal in this sort of coverage, though - the government is spending a lot more on something, but not as much as some Congresscritter wants, so they whine to some dim reporter about "those evil Republican/Democrat cuts" while leaving out the actual increase in spending. This happens enough that you can pretty much depend on adding "from this fiscal year's huge budget increase request" to any headline like it.

This is part of the reason why the budget goes up so much each year. A budget item for (example) $100 billion gets boosted to $120 billion, the committee cuts that to $110 billion (which was the original funding target, so they asked for the extra money so they'd get the "real" budget once it got cut), and someone whines about "Republicans cutting $10 billion from poor people."
 
2011-06-19 10:54:26 AM  

smitty04: Some "poor people" recently tried to sell me $300.00 of food stamps for $150.00,. I asked how they could do that to their kids and they said the local churches provide them with plenty of food.


Bullshiat! You were too frightened speak at all. Poor people are scary. If the encounter happened at all, you were desperately trying to get away unnoticed.
 
2011-06-19 10:55:39 AM  

bonsainick: plans call for the fall 2011 removal of up to 10,000 undocumented azaleas d

Good!
They can send them back to Mexico where they came from so they stop taking jobs American azaleas don't want.


it's certainly the undocumented part that caused the budget axe to fall. although if it only takes funding for two gardener positions to document them that doesn't sound like a lot of money.
 
2011-06-19 10:56:10 AM  

Braindeath: If we're not going to pay for the children of poor people than we're going to have to pass a law sterilizing them or enforcing use of birth control.


We should anyway. Overpopulation, illegal immigrants and all that such.
 
2011-06-19 11:01:12 AM  

altinos: When was this, 1996? I thought they all went to the Bridge/EBT cards in the past decade.


Three months ago. They assured me I could use their plastic. To make matters worse, they were renting a house down the street and never payed rent for the six months they lived there. The bank repoed the house and kicked them out. I was glad to see them gone.
 
2011-06-19 11:04:44 AM  
The irony is, the National Arboretum is located in northeast DC, not far from some pretty dubious neighborhoods. The azaleas the House Republicans want to save by starving widows and orphans are most likely going to be viewed by those same widows and orphans.
 
2011-06-19 11:09:28 AM  

Mouser: The irony is, the National Arboretum is located in northeast DC, not far from some pretty dubious neighborhoods. The azaleas the House Republicans want to save by starving widows and orphans are most likely going to be viewed by those same widows and orphans.


If you've ever actually been to those neighborhoods, I would hardly call their occupants starving.

/Obesity - the #1 marker of poverty in America
 
2011-06-19 11:23:29 AM  

girljen: ///broke the cycle, now...lower middle class


That phrase has always amused me. To to paraphrase George Carlin, some people think changing the name of the condition will somehow magically change the condition. Well sorry cousin it doesn't work that way. You're like the rest of us, you can afford a few shiney gadgets and make the bills but are more or less stuck where you are. That's not "lower middle class" that's "the working poor." The sooner people quit trying to bullshiat themselves into believing they're something their not the sooner enough people will get really pissed of and help do something about the conditions that help to keep them there.

/Heard that shiat so much growing up and I'm farking sick of it
 
2011-06-19 11:26:56 AM  

VeryRarely: As children, my brother and I were recipients of the old Gov't cheese and bread in those generic brown boxes.

(So now am I supposed to miss out on some nice azaleas I'll never see just to ensure Shaniqua can get some Similac for her forth baby because that particular baby's daddy isn't paying child support because he doesn't work?! Well that's a bummer.)


I love how you admit your family received government assistance when you were growing up, then turn around and deride others who are doing the very same thing. Nobody said "well that's a bummer" when your family needed a hand. I'm sure your family was in true need while Shaniqua is just gaming the system, right?
 
2011-06-19 11:33:27 AM  

smitty04: Some "poor people" recently tried to sell me $300.00 of food stamps for $150.00,. I asked how they could do that to their kids and they said the local churches provide them with plenty of food.


Yeah, not all poor people are created equal either. But use your anecdotal experiences to write 'em all off, that's fine.

Some people know how to game the system. Others don't or psychologically can't even try to.

Cutting funding from WIC in particular, especially now, is f--king cold.
 
2011-06-19 11:37:39 AM  

egao-gakari: Battlestar Girlactica:

^This, and I'll raise you a

/hot


Oh fark that shiat, nothing beats the original mangu.
niko-niko.net
 
2011-06-19 11:41:47 AM  

Mouser: The irony is, the National Arboretum is located in northeast DC, not far from some pretty dubious neighborhoods. The azaleas the House Republicans want to save by starving widows and orphans are most likely going to be viewed by those same widows and orphans.


3/10

It started out well, but you didn't stick the landing.
"You said widows and orphans twice."
 
2011-06-19 11:46:18 AM  

smitty04: altinos: When was this, 1996? I thought they all went to the Bridge/EBT cards in the past decade.

Three months ago. They assured me I could use their plastic. To make matters worse, they were renting a house down the street and never payed rent for the six months they lived there. The bank repoed the house and kicked them out. I was glad to see them gone.


Banks don't repo when renters don't pay. Only when owners/landlords don't pay. But good job on blaming the poor people for the repo.
 
2011-06-19 11:46:53 AM  
Overzealous staffer. Liberal plants.
 
2011-06-19 12:03:22 PM  

VeryRarely: smitty04: Some "poor people" recently tried to sell me $300.00 of food stamps for $150.00,. I asked how they could do that to their kids and they said the local churches provide them with plenty of food.

They gotta get them a flat screen! Duh! At least a 42". You don't expect little Jimmy to watch Blu-ray movies on a standard def TV, do you? Sheesh! And Xbox on an SDTV? Forget about it!


Or you know, pay rent or something.
 
2011-06-19 12:07:47 PM  
To be fair, this is all the GOP knows how to do, and azaleas do GREAT when you feed them bullshiat.
 
2011-06-19 12:09:04 PM  

More_Like_A_Stain: smitty04: altinos: When was this, 1996? I thought they all went to the Bridge/EBT cards in the past decade.

Three months ago. They assured me I could use their plastic. To make matters worse, they were renting a house down the street and never payed rent for the six months they lived there. The bank repoed the house and kicked them out. I was glad to see them gone.

Banks don't repo when renters don't pay. Only when owners/landlords don't pay. But good job on blaming the poor people for the repo.


The ex-owner was one of those people that thought he could buy a house with no money down, rent it out, and make a fortune. He found that it is nearly impossible to evict people with kids and the renters know that.
 
2011-06-19 12:11:40 PM  
Welfare turns straight people gay and gay people Mexican!

Everybody goes down a notch!
 
M-G
2011-06-19 12:13:03 PM  
I'm pretty much automatically against what comes out of GOP-land these days, but I didn't see anything in TFA that indicated that money was being allocated for the plants, so it's a pretty poor thing to get outraged about.

More disturbing to me is that language can be inserted into bills and there's no way to find out who did it.
 
2011-06-19 12:17:38 PM  

smitty04: More_Like_A_Stain: smitty04: altinos: When was this, 1996? I thought they all went to the Bridge/EBT cards in the past decade.

Three months ago. They assured me I could use their plastic. To make matters worse, they were renting a house down the street and never payed rent for the six months they lived there. The bank repoed the house and kicked them out. I was glad to see them gone.

Banks don't repo when renters don't pay. Only when owners/landlords don't pay. But good job on blaming the poor people for the repo.

The ex-owner was one of those people that thought he could buy a house with no money down, rent it out, and make a fortune. He found that it is nearly impossible to evict people with kids and the renters know that.


What kind of idiot expects poor people to pay for their mistakes when they make stupid decisions? And if the poor people had any inclination at all that they were living on borrowed time, such as collection agency letters addressed to the landlord at the rental address, what makes them any less honorable for not paying rent when they knew they were going to be out on the street anyway? Better to save money to pay for the next shiathole.
 
2011-06-19 12:24:19 PM  
smitty04: Some "poor people" recently tried to sell me $300.00 of food stamps for $150.00,. I asked how they could do that to their kids and they said the local churches provide them with plenty of food.

I call BS
I suppose she was a big, fat "Poor" woman driving a Cadillac and eating prawns from a crystal bowl, too.
The Welfare Queen lie was exposed about 25 years ago.
 
2011-06-19 12:30:06 PM  
The government should offer a voluntary sterilization program for both males and females. Maybe some people will recognize the fact that they can maintain a reckless lifestyle easier without the risk of bearing crotchfruit. In the long run it will save money--kinda like sterilizing feral cats and turning them loose--you will reap the immediate benefit of the individual not breeding, as well as what would have been their subsequent generations.

Eventually, phase out welfare that is given based on the number of children spawned...or at least limit it to a maximum of two children.
 
2011-06-19 12:32:14 PM  
Azaleas are so pretty to smell and look at! I don't like looking at poor people. They dress and smell funny.

www.pickenschamber.net
Azaleas

si.wsj.net
Poor peolple

See what I mean?
 
2011-06-19 12:33:39 PM  
Just the poor? I'd kill each and every one of you for that.

images.nonexiste.net
 
2011-06-19 12:35:17 PM  

offmymeds: Azaleas are so pretty to smell and look at! I don't like looking at poor people. They dress and smell funny.


Azaleas


Poor peolple

See what I mean?


Say! That one in the front row, with the fur coat, looks kind of sexy.
 
2011-06-19 12:35:58 PM  
What kind of idiot expects poor people to pay for their mistakes when they make stupid decisions? And if the poor people had any inclination at all that they were living on borrowed time, such as collection agency letters addressed to the landlord at the rental address, what makes them any less honorable for not paying rent when they knew they were going to be out on the street anyway? Better to save money to pay for the next shiathole.

I'll never understand this attitude. Being poor is the punishment for stupid mistakes. Usually made while a person is very young.
If everyone was held to this standard, we could have been spared this:
image.guardian.co.uk
And we'd all be better off for it.

OK...
So maybe you have a point. We just need to hold everyone equally accountable.
No matter how much money Grampa made, when you get yourself in trouble, you must pay and pay. Forever.
And when you think you've paid enough, we'll send letters to your employer reminding him of your mistakes from years ago, you know...just because you're a terrible risk.
Then we can quintuple any interest you might pay and supervise every aspect of your life. Including your bodily fluids.
This will go for The Donald's worthless spawn as well as this entire generation of Bushes. Crackheads, stalkers, kneewalking drunks and all.
 
2011-06-19 12:39:55 PM  

dstrick44: smitty04: Some "poor people" recently tried to sell me $300.00 of food stamps for $150.00,. I asked how they could do that to their kids and they said the local churches provide them with plenty of food.

I call BS
I suppose she was a big, fat "Poor" woman driving a Cadillac and eating prawns from a crystal bowl, too.
The Welfare Queen lie was exposed about 25 years ago.


When I lived in Hamtramck in the late 1990s occasionally I would walk over to Sam's Market a Commor and Fleming (it's still there according to Google maps) and once in a while someone would be standing outside the store with a booklet of food stamps offering to sell them for $.50 or $.75 on the dollar. I wouldn't say they looked like the stereotypical welfare queen, but people did try to sell foodstamps for cash. It's not like the cashier checked ID or anything. I never did it though.
 
2011-06-19 12:43:46 PM  
Note to HuffPo FA writer: Be careful what you link to.........

Bill Highlights:
The agencies and programs in this bill will receive a total of $125.5 billion in both discretionary and mandatory funding, a reduction of more than $7 billion from the President's request. Discretionary funding is reduced by $2.7 billion from last year's level - a cut of over $5 billion from the President's request. However, mandatory (automatic) funding in the bill increases by $3 billion over last year to a total of $108 billion, and equals more than 86% of the total funding in the bill.
Department of Agriculture:
Food and Nutrition Programs: Mandatory food and nutrition programs within the Department of Agriculture - including SNAP (formerly Food Stamps) and child nutrition - are funded at nearly $90 billion, $2 billion less than the President's request. This funding will allow all individuals and families who meet the programs' criteria for aid to receive all the benefits available to them, and includes $3 billion in reserve funds in case of unanticipated increases in participation or food price increases.
 
2011-06-19 12:48:48 PM  

Jim_Callahan: ... and, in the broader sense, the government is really more about things that advance society as a whole, which includes things like science, the arts, and so on. It's not really designed to feed you on a regular basis. Honestly, speaking just for myself, I would rather see the government money that goes toward feeding me (agricultural subsidies mostly, in my case) go away than see the "useless" things like the NSF, arts funding, and NASA get slashed again. The government is supposed to be for shiat we collaborate on, learn to feed and clothe yourself.


I may not necessarily disagree with this, but you make a damn compelling argument.

Ow My Balls: It's not the kids' faults they were born. They had no choice in the matter. Having the most advanced society in the history of mankind should compel us to take care of them, not only for their sake, but to also break the cycle. And yes, I approve of at least encouraging people to only breed if they're going to be good parents...


And this is why I can't - in my heart of hearts - totally agree with Jim_Callahan. I want what he says to be true, but what Ow My Balls says is absolutely correct.
 
2011-06-19 12:50:33 PM  

CornerPocket: are funded at nearly $90 billion, $2 billion less than the President's request.


So, if I request a 10% pay increase and only get a 3% increase, is that a 7% reduction or a 3% increase.
 
2011-06-19 12:55:46 PM  

smitty04: CornerPocket: are funded at nearly $90 billion, $2 billion less than the President's request.

So, if I request a 10% pay increase and only get a 3% increase, is that a 7% reduction or a 3% increase.


Well, if you're in Washington, it's a 7% reduction. If you occupy any dimensional plane that resembles reality, it's the 3% increase.
 
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