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2011-06-19 12:43:35 AM
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2011-06-19 12:58:36 AM
What are those assholes doing on the porch?


Those aren't assholes. It's pronounced *azaleas*.
 
2011-06-19 01:07:02 AM
Let them eat azaleas.
 
2011-06-19 01:26:34 AM
What's an azaleas? That what the ol' lady got planted out yonder front the porch?
 
2011-06-19 01:31:30 AM
Mr. President, we cannot allow an azalea gap!
 
2011-06-19 02:17:35 AM
I don't know about YOU subby, but my garden looks better with azaleas than it does with starving women and children!
 
2011-06-19 02:29:35 AM

markie_farkie: What are those assholes doing on the porch?


Those aren't assholes. It's pronounced *azaleas*.


FSM bless you for posting that. It's now the first thing I think of when I hear "azaleas". One of the best lines in a very quotable movie. Maybe even the best line, if not for "I can't fark a gorilla!"
 
2011-06-19 03:03:06 AM
Is this that compassionate conservatism thing?
 
2011-06-19 04:38:00 AM
Who is to say that humans are more valuable than azaleas? They are both made of the same atoms as every bit of matter in the universe. Why is one special? It's all the same. We are all made of stars.

Discuss
 
2011-06-19 04:43:03 AM

Here let me help you with that: Who is to say that humans are more valuable than azaleas? They are both made of the same atoms as every bit of matter in the universe. Why is one special? It's all the same. We are all made of stars.

Discuss


I don't think either Minbari or Vulcans would follow you that far.
 
2011-06-19 04:46:01 AM
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2011-06-19 04:47:11 AM

GAT_00: Is this that compassionate conservatism thing?


that department is getting cut big time, so it directs the National Arboretum to ask for donations and to make sure when they are tossing out the thousands of Azaleas, they specifically don't toss out the National Boxwood Collection and the Glenn Dale Hillside portion of the Azalea Collection. who gives a fark. oh, we needed another troll thread. carry on. and thx mods. hit us with a *why Obama is like Geraldine Ferraro* article while your at it, we haven't hit the minimum ration yet.



National Arboretum Funding Crisis

November 29, 2010 by GCV Member
Azalea 'Darkness' (Glenn Dale)


There's trouble brewing at the United States National Arboretum in Washington DC. The nation's only federally funded arboretum is facing a funding crisis and plans call for the fall 2011 removal of up to 10,000 undocumented azaleas as well as some perennials and boxwood around the 446-acres of gardens.

According to Kathy Jentz of Washington Gardener blog, the arboretum's interim director Dr. Ramon Jordan spelled out the facts about the loss of private funding for two gardener positions translating to 30% of the actual gardeners who are needed to catalog and move plant collections to save what they can. Outrage over the plans for the removal of azaleas, boxwood and perennials is being heard all over the internet.

As a guest blogger on Washington Gardener blog site, Don Hyatt, noted azalea expert, breeder and grower, expressed a powerful argument against the removal of azaleas . Garden Rant's Susan Harris addressed the subject, inviting supporters to link to a Azalea Cause facebook site or Save the Azalea site where emails of senators and congressmen are listed. Today, in the Washington Post, a column by Adrian Higgins summed up the fury of azalea lovers.

Each spring, more than 100,000 visitors from the US and elsewhere flock to the hillside of azalea blooms, color grouped for maximum impact and splendor. Lets hope that renewed quest for funding will save the gardens before the time runs out.
 
2011-06-19 04:48:24 AM
so what? we can't have nice things because idiot woman have kids they can't take care of?
 
2011-06-19 05:01:16 AM
Battlestar Girlactica:

^This, and I'll raise you a
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2011-06-19 05:07:42 AM
Well, I'm glad I've resulted to eating Azaleas years ago.
 
2011-06-19 05:08:37 AM

gregoropolis: so what? we can't have nice things because idiot woman have kids they can't take care of?


There is no reason why we can't do both. However, if you do have to choose, then yes, investing in children so they are more likely to be productive and you don't pay more later to house them in jail is more important than having nice flowers.
 
2011-06-19 05:13:09 AM
yes, bail out the azaleas. But let's not forget that the azaleas will trickle down their wealth into the pockets of poor hungry people, who, let's face it, are poor and hungry because they hate freedom and are too lazy to get jobs (possibly because imigants took them).
 
2011-06-19 05:30:10 AM
i know that i am less important than a lot of things.. as far as this world goes.
 
2011-06-19 05:33:36 AM
If we're not going to pay for the children of poor people than we're going to have to pass a law sterilizing them or enforcing use of birth control.
 
2011-06-19 05:35:52 AM
Every now and then the republicans do something that makes me smile. This is one of those times, and I don't even like azaleas that much.
 
2011-06-19 05:36:23 AM

sjcousins: are too lazy to get jobs (possibly because imigants took them).


Damn Democats giving all our jobs away to imigants. Nothing but flagant hypocisy!
 
2011-06-19 05:38:13 AM
Did I miss the part where they said how much money was being funneled to the azalea's?

I wouldn't think that it is the entire $832 million that is being cut from WIC.

I think I'll go with the...buh, buh, but the azaleas are only like 0.000098357934578934578% of the deficit so why does it matter?
 
2011-06-19 05:43:08 AM
Tending to both would be nice... But if you want to spark some fauxrage, at least lie and say the Azaleas cost $1.2 billion or something, rather than the thousand or so they probably actually do.
 
2011-06-19 05:44:35 AM

Slappajo: Did I miss the part where they said how much money was being funneled to the azalea's?

I wouldn't think that it is the entire $832 million that is being cut from WIC.

I think I'll go with the...buh, buh, but the azaleas are only like 0.000098357934578934578% of the deficit so why does it matter?


Thank you, that's what I was thinking.
Also gardening is an art. Why does Huffpo hate funding for the arts?
 
2011-06-19 05:47:04 AM
Why should they care? Most GOP'ers have never actually seen a poor person. Well, except maybe the ones who do their landscaping.

Once they starve, we can process them into fertilizer for the azaleas. Brilliant!
 
2011-06-19 05:51:24 AM

Old enough to know better: Why should they care? Most GOP'ers have never actually seen a poor person. Well, except maybe the ones who do their landscaping.

Once they starve, we can process them into fertilizer for the azaleas. Brilliant!


I'd probably extend your "never actually seen a poor person" comment to include all of Congress.
 
2011-06-19 05:58:44 AM
FTFA: "I am prohibited by law from having any contact with the House or Senate for 2 years -- ethics reform trumps the Bill of Rights -- so, no, that was not my request," emailed back former Utah senator Bob Bennett, commenting on the fact that he's not allowed to lobby Congress.

Awww. Poor Bob Bennett has to wait two whole years to cash in on his public position. Won't somebody think of the future lobbyists?
 
2011-06-19 06:16:32 AM

Old enough to know better: Why should they care? Most GOP'ers have never actually seen a poor person. Well, except maybe the ones who do their landscaping.


Depends on the landscaper, honestly. A lot of landscaping services are small family businesses, so they actually do pretty well for themselves. Now, the people employed by the landscapers... I don't know so much. But those people typically have jobs on the order of mowing grass.

The guy across the street is a landscaper, and his two neighbors are a lawyer and an engineer.
 
2011-06-19 06:19:04 AM
So, someone's society wife has a thing for azaleas and it was just easier to put this in a bill than see her get surly at her weekly bridge games. Now she can be proud of her husband. And he doesn't have to put up with her going on about the outrages of the gardening world.
 
2011-06-19 06:34:11 AM
plans call for the fall 2011 removal of up to 10,000 undocumented azaleas d

Good!
They can send them back to Mexico where they came from so they stop taking jobs American azaleas don't want.
 
2011-06-19 06:39:19 AM
Azaleas? Is this a story from the Bush administration?
 
2011-06-19 06:56:46 AM

WeeKeef: Azaleas? Is this a story from the Bush administration?


What you did there, I see it :)
 
2011-06-19 06:57:31 AM

Slappajo: Did I miss the part where they said how much money was being funneled to the azalea's?


From the article, it sounded like it was unfunded. Meaning $0.00 are going to it.
 
2011-06-19 07:06:12 AM
Uh, that sounded like the organization is being directed to maintain a specific exhibit because their funding is being cut and they have to pick and choose which to maintain.

That's kind of exactly the opposite of what the editorial is incompetently trying to imply. The funding for both programs appears to be being reduced, unless I'm reading it wrong.

... and, in the broader sense, the government is really more about things that advance society as a whole, which includes things like science, the arts, and so on. It's not really designed to feed you on a regular basis. Honestly, speaking just for myself, I would rather see the government money that goes toward feeding me (agricultural subsidies mostly, in my case) go away than see the "useless" things like the NSF, arts funding, and NASA get slashed again. The government is supposed to be for shiat we collaborate on, learn to feed and clothe yourself.

Additionally, WIC is only one of a half-dozen programs with overlapping purviews (welfare/food stamps, medicaid, state welfare, etc) designed not to miss anybody. The people involved are going to be fine. Even the planned parenthood nonsense was more consequential a funding change than this in the larger sense.

//The fundamental argument of "x was trimmed, while y completely unrelated thing was maintained" is the political equivalent of a logical fallacy anyhow, government does not operate in a one-thing-at-a-time manner.
 
2011-06-19 07:06:57 AM
Fta: " If you're an azalea at the National Arboretum, you're in luck -- a Republican on the House Appropriations Committee is looking out for you."

Fta: "It's not clear who is responsible for the azalea provision"

Wat?
 
2011-06-19 07:09:13 AM

ThrobblefootSpectre: Fta: " If you're an azalea at the National Arboretum, you're in luck -- a Republican on the House Appropriations Committee is looking out for you."

Fta: "It's not clear who is responsible for the azalea provision"

Wat?


Well, if they're cutting off food to poor people, it's a Republican. Hurting people is what they live for.
 
2011-06-19 07:15:25 AM
This is exactly why democracy is a doomed experiment. No, not because they are protecting the azaleas, because people have a problem with it for the wrong reasons. It's an unfunded mandate. It's saying, "Arboretum, when you draw up your budget, you have to include the azaleas in it." It's not taking money from single mother Jane Smith at 42 Wallaby Way. It's taking money from the sugar maples at the other end of the arboretum that can't get care because the azaleas get their portion of the budget instead or more importantly from the research scientists working on a cure for banana fungi or ash borers.
 
2011-06-19 07:15:46 AM

NobleHam: Tending to both would be nice... But if you want to spark some fauxrage, at least lie and say the Azaleas cost $1.2 billion or something, rather than the thousand or so they probably actually do.


In other words, take a lesson from the right.
 
2011-06-19 07:22:45 AM

senoy: This is exactly why democracy is a doomed experiment. No, not because they are protecting the azaleas, because people have a problem with it for the wrong reasons. It's an unfunded mandate. It's saying, "Arboretum, when you draw up your budget, you have to include the azaleas in it." It's not taking money from single mother Jane Smith at 42 Wallaby Way. It's taking money from the sugar maples at the other end of the arboretum that can't get care because the azaleas get their portion of the budget instead or more importantly from the research scientists working on a cure for banana fungi or ash borers.


Some plants are more equal than others.
 
2011-06-19 07:24:01 AM
FTA: While azaleas are being carefully tended to, the bill would cut $832 million from a program that provides food assistance to low-income mothers and children. The Center for Budget and Policy Priorities estimates that the reduction could result in as many as 475,000 people being turned away from the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children (WIC) if food prices continue to rise.

"Everyday people across the country leave their homes in search of work, only to return at the end of the day with more worries and less hope," said Rep. Sam Farr (D-Calif.), the agriculture subcommittee's ranking member. "At a time that people continue to struggle to make ends meet, Republicans want to cut funding to food programs that are helping put food on the tables of those most in need."
 
2011-06-19 07:41:09 AM
Scrooge has only disgust for the poor, thinking the world would be better off without them, "decreasing the surplus population,"
 
2011-06-19 07:51:57 AM

jso2897: senoy: This is exactly why democracy is a doomed experiment. No, not because they are protecting the azaleas, because people have a problem with it for the wrong reasons. It's an unfunded mandate. It's saying, "Arboretum, when you draw up your budget, you have to include the azaleas in it." It's not taking money from single mother Jane Smith at 42 Wallaby Way. It's taking money from the sugar maples at the other end of the arboretum that can't get care because the azaleas get their portion of the budget instead or more importantly from the research scientists working on a cure for banana fungi or ash borers.

Some plants are more equal than others.


Are you saying our survival depends on our political connections? Who does the azaleas know that we don't know? Mr Obama, why do politicians get to pick winners and losers?
 
2011-06-19 08:11:38 AM
Is this the modern equivalent of, "Let them eat cake"???

Law grinds the poor, and rich men rule the law. - Oliver Goldsmith, 1770
Nice to know things have changed...

/The GOP, our elitist Nobility
 
2011-06-19 08:12:27 AM

Gwyrddu: gregoropolis: so what? we can't have nice things because idiot woman have kids they can't take care of?

There is no reason why we can't do both. However, if you do have to choose, then yes, investing in children so they are more likely to be productive and you don't pay more later to house them in jail is more important than having nice flowers.


It's cheaper to jail azaleas than bad kids.
 
2011-06-19 08:15:55 AM

gregoropolis: so what? we can't have nice things because idiot woman have kids they can't take care of?


It's not the kids' faults they were born. They had no choice in the matter. Having the most advanced society in the history of mankind should compel us to take care of them, not only for their sake, but to also break the cycle. And yes, I approve of at least encouraging people to only breed if they're going to be good parents...
 
2011-06-19 08:19:11 AM
Combine this with the story yesterday about the homeless man who would have died without anyone bothering to notice, except that he had a dog, and you see just how Christian this nation truly is.
 
2011-06-19 08:19:25 AM

More_Like_A_Stain: Gwyrddu: gregoropolis: so what? we can't have nice things because idiot woman have kids they can't take care of?

There is no reason why we can't do both. However, if you do have to choose, then yes, investing in children so they are more likely to be productive and you don't pay more later to house them in jail is more important than having nice flowers.

It's cheaper to jail azaleas than bad kids.


Even better would be to put the bad kids through a wood chipper, then they make an excellent fertiliser/mulch for the azaleas.
 
2011-06-19 08:26:19 AM
I predict this azaleas > food stamps whaargrbl will fuel the upcoming slow summer news cycle.
 
2011-06-19 08:32:14 AM
Should probably RTFA, but just wanted to comment on how awesome the National Arboretum is, especially in spring, and most especially the azaleas in spring. And given its interesting location on New York Avenue is widely available to many of the less fortunate DC residents. So they can easily visit when starving.

/also next door to the Washington Times printing plant...hmmm...
 
2011-06-19 08:37:27 AM
Since our poor people are fat, I don't have a problem with this.
 
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