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		Take heart: Chantix™: may cause drowsiness, tingling Drew Curtis sensation, delusions of being Drew Curtis, penile neurosis syndrome (PNS), oily Drew Curtis discharge, oh, and FARKING DEATH (physorg.com)		57
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Walker		2011-06-17 10:04:24 AM

So smoking is bad for your heart and may kill you and the pill you take instead of smoking is bad for your heart and may kill you. I'd just keep smoking.

the_sidewinder		2011-06-17 10:14:37 AM

Walker: So smoking is bad for your heart and may kill you and the pill you take instead of smoking is bad for your heart and may kill you. I'd just keep smoking.

Or you could quit, and just not use this pill to help

Inigo		2011-06-17 10:17:25 AM

Drew Curtis death?

imagonyx123		2011-06-17 10:17:31 AM

Why do drug names and drag queen names seem identical?

gopher321		2011-06-17 10:18:23 AM

Man, I love those American commercials for various drugs/treatments on TV... "Ask your doctor about 'BrandX'...", going on to list it's various wonderful properties, and then in a hushed voice, you hear 'May cause, bleeding ulcers, temporary blindness, insomnia, anal discharge, etc. etc.'

treesloth		2011-06-17 10:19:46 AM

the_sidewinder: Or you could quit, and just not use this pill to help

That's crazy talk! If the pharmaceutical industry has taught me anything, it's that we can't change our state without their help.

* This post brought to you by Abilify.

Walker		2011-06-17 10:33:05 AM

the_sidewinder: Walker: So smoking is bad for your heart and may kill you and the pill you take instead of smoking is bad for your heart and may kill you. I'd just keep smoking.

Or you could quit, and just not use this pill to help

THAT'S CRAZY TALK!!!

raozmc		2011-06-17 10:33:14 AM

I took it and I didn't experience tingling Drew Curtis sensation, delusions of being Drew Curtis, penile neurosis syndrome (PNS), oily Drew Curtis discharge, oh, or FARKING DEATH
or the soul crushing nightmares some people experience while taking it.

/Did quit smoking though

Trawg		2011-06-17 10:33:24 AM

Just quit putting the farking things in your mouth, you pussies. It's really not that difficult. People need to stop sympathizing with these morons and maybe they will grow a set and quit.

/smoked for 15 years
//noticed I couldn't roughhouse with the kids as well
///quit

BigTuna		2011-06-17 10:39:21 AM

My ex took this nasty shiat back when it first came out and she went plum-farking-loco... PMS squared. It worked perfectly but it wasn't worth it.

sxacho		2011-06-17 10:41:07 AM

Who's Drew Curtis?

clambam		2011-06-17 10:44:01 AM

I smoked for 38 years. When cigs went up to $3 a pack I started rolling my own, and when the cost of rolling my own went up to the equivalent of $3 a pack (when I first started to roll it worked out to about 50 cents a pack, including filters), I figured I'd better quit. My brother gave me a month's supply of Chantix; it's usually a three month regimen. I had no side effects, and just gradually lost interest in smoking. The day before my last pill I was down to one cigarette a day, said "Oops, I'd better quit," did, and haven't smoked in eight months. I occasionally get the urge but they're pretty simple to suppress and all I have to do is look at how much the farking things cost now and it's a no brainer.

raozmc		2011-06-17 10:47:00 AM

clambam: I smoked for 38 years. When cigs went up to $3 a pack I started rolling my own, and when the cost of rolling my own went up to the equivalent of $3 a pack (when I first started to roll it worked out to about 50 cents a pack, including filters), I figured I'd better quit. My brother gave me a month's supply of Chantix; it's usually a three month regimen. I had no side effects, and just gradually lost interest in smoking. The day before my last pill I was down to one cigarette a day, said "Oops, I'd better quit," did, and haven't smoked in eight months. I occasionally get the urge but they're pretty simple to suppress and all I have to do is look at how much the farking things cost now and it's a no brainer.

I occasionally want one as well, but the smell/smoke makes me sick now. I've heard people say that ex-smokers are worse the non-smokers. Sounds about right to me. I could have given a fark less about the smell/smoke before I quit.

StoPPeRmobile		2011-06-17 10:49:39 AM

clambam: I smoked for 38 years. When cigs went up to $3 a pack I started rolling my own, and when the cost of rolling my own went up to the equivalent of $3 a pack (when I first started to roll it worked out to about 50 cents a pack, including filters), I figured I'd better quit. My brother gave me a month's supply of Chantix; it's usually a three month regimen. I had no side effects, and just gradually lost interest in smoking. The day before my last pill I was down to one cigarette a day, said "Oops, I'd better quit," did, and haven't smoked in eight months. I occasionally get the urge but they're pretty simple to suppress and all I have to do is look at how much the farking things cost now and it's a no brainer.

Good News!
$1.50 a pack with "pipe" tobacco. The tax hike only affected "cigarette" tobacco in most places.
www.smokersoutletonline.com

No "fire-safe" paper or that lingering stank, either.

FitzShivering		2011-06-17 10:54:42 AM

raozmc: I took it and I didn't experience tingling Drew Curtis sensation, delusions of being Drew Curtis, penile neurosis syndrome (PNS), oily Drew Curtis discharge, oh, or FARKING DEATH
or the soul crushing nightmares some people experience while taking it.

/Did quit smoking though

You're a lucky bastard.

The shiat sent me off the rails completely. And the worst part is you frickin think you're sane while you're being apeshiat insane. Hell, I even made posts online about how great it was while I was on it, while people around me were considering drowning me in a lake.

NuttierThanEver		2011-06-17 10:56:39 AM

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Possible adverse reactions to aspirin and Ibuprofen.
All meds have the potential for side effects, but having lost 3 our 4 grandparents and an uncle to lung and/or esophageal cancer related to smoking I would much rather they took the low risk of side effects on Chantix to avoid the hell they went through at the end of life

clambam		2011-06-17 10:57:26 AM

raozmc: I occasionally want one as well, but the smell/smoke makes me sick now. I've heard people say that ex-smokers are worse the non-smokers. Sounds about right to me. I could have given a fark less about the smell/smoke before I quit.

The smell doesn't bother me because I was buying American Spirit or loose tobacco at a tobacconist for ten years anyway. Store-bought pre-mades tasted like formadehyde to me. When I smell a Marlboro or some such now it's not an odor I associate with real cigarettes.

babygoat		2011-06-17 10:57:28 AM

Trawg: Just quit putting the farking things in your mouth, you pussies. It's really not that difficult. People need to stop sympathizing with these morons and maybe they will grow a set and quit.

/smoked for 15 years
//noticed I couldn't roughhouse with the kids as well
///quit

Suck a dick.

/Took me several tries, finally quit with Chantix.

Quasar		2011-06-17 11:16:03 AM

gopher321: Man, I love those American commercials for various drugs/treatments on TV... "Ask your doctor about 'BrandX'...", going on to list it's various wonderful properties, and then in a hushed voice, you hear 'May cause, bleeding ulcers, temporary blindness, insomnia, anal discharge, etc. etc.'

Chantix is honestly the worst I've ever seen. Most drugs with bad side effects are for serious conditions like depression.

Then you get to a help-quit-smoking drug and the list and severity is horrendous. Who the hell would rather do that than try the gum or a patch or something?

BigTuna		2011-06-17 11:16:40 AM

babygoat: Trawg: Just quit putting the farking things in your mouth, you pussies. It's really not that difficult. People need to stop sympathizing with these morons and maybe they will grow a set and quit.

/smoked for 15 years
//noticed I couldn't roughhouse with the kids as well
///quit

Suck a dick.

/Took me several tries, finally quit with Chantix.

Just as the people who were lucky enough to have stable caring families are secure in the knowledge that they pulled themselves up by their own bootstraps, people with favorable genes and other biological factors that leave them less susceptible to true addiction are pretty clueless about the the other end of the addiction spectrum.

Also in both cases that lack of understanding is hardly cause to STFU and be thankful.

hailin		2011-06-17 11:17:05 AM

I just quit cold turkey. My dad had to quit with help from an Rx. To each their own. Most people say they want to quit smoking, but that is just lip service and they usually go back to lighting up. People who really want to quit smoking will whichever way possible.

thespawnkiller		2011-06-17 11:19:12 AM

I used it and quit 2 years ago. I didn't have any crazy side effects or anything.

bemis23		2011-06-17 11:20:16 AM

Is this where i come to say that I quit 6 weeks ago (5/1/11)? I took Zyban to alleviate some of the withdrawal symptoms, but I quit taking that two weeks ago. The stories I heard about Chantix just freaked me out too much even though it's what my doctor recommended. it's nice to be able to finally breathe again.

hailin		2011-06-17 11:20:59 AM

I guess I didn't just quit smoking. It has been over three years. My dad is going on year nine. I don't like the smell of cigarettes anymore. About a year after I quit I was out drinking an decided to have one for old time's sake. I could about two puffs in before I started gagging from the ashtray taste in my mouth. Never again.

Same things happens with cigars as far as taste. I love the smell though so I will hang around cigar smokers, just not partake.

StoPPeRmobile		2011-06-17 11:24:16 AM

Quasar: Who the hell would rather do that than try the gum or a patch or something?

I think you need a prescription to get gum or patch now if you want to use FSA. So I would say those folks. Plus cheap bastards that just want to pay the co-pay and have insurance handle the rest.

bemis23		2011-06-17 11:29:56 AM

Quasar: gopher321: Man, I love those American commercials for various drugs/treatments on TV... "Ask your doctor about 'BrandX'...", going on to list it's various wonderful properties, and then in a hushed voice, you hear 'May cause, bleeding ulcers, temporary blindness, insomnia, anal discharge, etc. etc.'

Chantix is honestly the worst I've ever seen. Most drugs with bad side effects are for serious conditions like depression.

Then you get to a help-quit-smoking drug and the list and severity is horrendous. Who the hell would rather do that than try the gum or a patch or something?

I tried the all the NRTs (nicotine replacement treatments), but didn't have much success - so after talking to my doc I tried a medication instead and managed to quit. Patches/gum/mints/etc aren't the same type of treatment as true medical prescriptions.

/no side effects with zyban for me

House of Tards		2011-06-17 11:46:59 AM

Quasar:
Then you get to a help-quit-smoking drug and the list and severity is horrendous. Who the hell would rather do that than try the gum or a patch or something?

I was allergic to the patch and the gum didn't do crap. The lozenge was kind of OK, but not enough.

/6 months of Chantix +e-cigs = 2 years smoke free.
//Miss the weird dreams

HST's Dead Carcass		2011-06-17 11:51:03 AM

Ya know, I've ranted about this stuff before, and it just keeps getting better. This stuff seriously farked up my life, kind of like Meth does for other people. When all was said and done, my social life was in a shambles and never actually recovered. Chantix is bad news (for some people).

NuttierThanEver		2011-06-17 11:55:10 AM

Quasar: gopher321: Man, I love those American commercials for various drugs/treatments on TV... "Ask your doctor about 'BrandX'...", going on to list it's various wonderful properties, and then in a hushed voice, you hear 'May cause, bleeding ulcers, temporary blindness, insomnia, anal discharge, etc. etc.'

Chantix is honestly the worst I've ever seen. Most drugs with bad side effects are for serious conditions like depression.
Then you get to a help-quit-smoking drug and the list and severity is horrendous. Who the hell would rather do that than try the gum or a patch or something?

Smoking related illnesses cost the US $72.7 billion per year
In the US smoking is a contributer to 1 in 5 out of all deaths per year.

Serious illness?
WTF?

video man		2011-06-17 11:58:59 AM

I've heard Wellbutrin works better anyways. With WAY less side-effects too. I haven't heard anyone who's had a good experience with Chantix.

HST's Dead Carcass		2011-06-17 12:01:29 PM

video man: I've heard Wellbutrin works better anyways. With WAY less side-effects too. I haven't heard anyone who's had a good experience with Chantix.

Yes, I quit on Wellbutrin, but, poor decisions lead me back to smoking. It was my own dumb fault. I never quit smoking on Chantix, I just quit getting the relaxation that nicotine gave me.

EvilToni		2011-06-17 12:13:19 PM

I quit last year using the patch. Based on all the crazy I got from taking Ambien, I don't think my husband would have allowed me to take Chantix

MidnightRepairman		2011-06-17 12:14:22 PM

I quit with Chantix. It was some sort of miracle drug for me. No side effects or anything. Been 2 years now and anytime I get the urge, I just repeat my mantra: NO!! You are an addict! You can't have even one!

Sometimes it's all in how you approach it. Even now, I'm not an ex-smoker. I'm a practicing non-smoker.

gunsmack		2011-06-17 12:15:47 PM

Chantix gave me very, very, vivid dreams (mostly good ones) and made me fart like a Clydesdale.

/it was okay for the quitting thing too

hogans		2011-06-17 12:21:40 PM

Protip: declaring yourself dead can be helpful for tax reasons.

aspAddict		2011-06-17 12:33:40 PM

E-cigs FTW. Yeah, I'm still addicted to nicotine, but on the plus side I'm not poisoning myself with all the other crap, my clothes don't stink to high heaven, I'm spending about 30.00/month instead of 120.00+/month, and I can "light up" anywhere I damn well please for now.

I recommend it to all my patients*.

_{*aspAddict is not a real doctor, although he does play one in the toolshed.}

Quasar		2011-06-17 12:39:37 PM

NuttierThanEver: Smoking related illnesses cost the US $72.7 billion per year
In the US smoking is a contributer to 1 in 5 out of all deaths per year.

Serious illness?
WTF?

Smoking isn't an illness. Chantix doesn't cure lung cancer and emphysema. It's not like people have a bad AIDS habit they're trying to shake.

If it works for you and hasn't killed you, then that's great. But personally I have difficulty weighing "one way to help quit a habit I started myself on" with "will turn your intestines into gremlins that will gnaw their way out your penis."

NuttierThanEver		2011-06-17 12:57:25 PM

Quasar: NuttierThanEver: Smoking related illnesses cost the US $72.7 billion per year
In the US smoking is a contributer to 1 in 5 out of all deaths per year.

Serious illness?
WTF?

Smoking isn't an illness. Chantix doesn't cure lung cancer and emphysema. It's not like people have a bad AIDS habit they're trying to shake.

If it works for you and hasn't killed you, then that's great. But personally I have difficulty weighing "one way to help quit a habit I started myself on" with "will turn your intestines into gremlins that will gnaw their way out your penis."

First, I am not a smoker, I work in health care and hate it when people lose sight of the facts that a risk benefit analysis is what you should look at when deciding on whether a med should be used/kept on the market as opposed to "OMGWTFBBQ it causes you to have bad dreams it oughta be banned!" The incidence of serious side effects (ie harmful not just a side effect that goes away when you stop the med) is approximately 1-4%.
The odds of developing a chronic illness that is serious (ie heart disease, stroke, cancer) among smokers is five times more likely than that of a non-smoker.

Second you speak like someone who has never tried to quit smoking or are one of the lucky few able to do it easily. It is not, it is an incredibly addictive habit.

/statistics and science
//it works biatches

Ed Grubermann		2011-06-17 01:01:09 PM

How about just quitting cold turkey? It's cheaper and doesn't make your necrotated intestines shoot out your ass.

Kirk's_Toupee		2011-06-17 01:04:00 PM

FilmBELOH20		2011-06-17 01:07:45 PM

hailin: People who really want to quit smoking will whichever way possible.

This times eleventy. The only way anyone is going to quit smoking is to want to quit smoking. My wife tried gum, patches, Chantix and everything else. Nothing ever worked. Then one day my son saw her smoking and started crying. She asked what was wrong and he said he was just sad that she was going to die younger. That was the last cigarette she had.

I was a smoker for 20 years and quit the day I found out she was pregnant just to be able to help her. I wanted to quit, so I did.

Bebinn		2011-06-17 01:31:11 PM

My husband took Chantix about a year ago. It worked great. After about 3 days, he had no desire to smoke at all.

On the flip side, he had really bad nightmares, he's not normally a dreamer at all. And then, he couldn't ride around in a car for more than a few minutes. He would start sweating and jumping in the seat, start yelling, "get me out, get me out".

He had to have a MRI that month and we had to reschedule it twice because he was suddenly terrified of the machine. That was not his first time in an MRI, he was fine the time before.

Overall, I wouldn't recommend it unless the person is a very long time multiple pack a day smoker and has tried many other ways to quit. Seems to me that it is too dangerous for most casual smokers.

House of Tards		2011-06-17 01:39:06 PM

"Just quit" screams the thread as though this idea had never been tried and many smokers had never even heard the term before.

StoPPeRmobile		2011-06-17 01:41:26 PM

hogans: Protip: declaring yourself dead can be helpful for tax reasons.

I want his ship.

BraveNewCheneyWorld		2011-06-17 02:17:02 PM

House of Tards: "Just quit" screams the thread as though this idea had never been tried and many smokers had never even heard the term before.

It's pretty easy with electronic cigarettes. I bought this (new window), smoked only 3 more real cigarettes and I was fully over them. You can get any nicotine strength you want, and there's at least 300 flavors out there (hopscotch is my favorite), and some flavors simulate actual cigarettes fairly well if that's your thing. I let many of my smoking friends try mine and every single one decided to get e-cigs after trying them.

Bryntryst		2011-06-17 02:38:57 PM

thespawnkiller: I used it and quit 2 years ago. I didn't have any crazy side effects or anything.

I hit my 2 years on March 31st. I quit a couple times before with patches and Zyban, but Chantix worked like a champ for me. I miss it, and when I smell cigarettes my eyes roll back into my head, but haven't touched a cig since.

the7thcircle		2011-06-17 02:44:48 PM

treesloth:
That's crazy talk! If the pharmaceutical industry has taught me anything, it's that we can't change our state without their help.

* This post brought to you by Abilify.

This good mood brought to you by Abilify!

\\You too eh.

penceyprepreject		2011-06-17 02:56:34 PM

HST's Dead Carcass you're not the only one...my friends fiance took this stuff,lost his mind one night and his neighbor ended up shooting him and killing him thinking it was an intruder trying to break into their house bc he fell into their back window whilst ranting and raving. befroe chantix,hed never an episode like that....

DanZero		2011-06-17 03:42:41 PM

Ok, I know about Drew, but what does he got to do with the headline? Is this some kind of inner circle TF greenlight approved to have us liters scratching our heads while the TFers laugh at us and throw more money his way?

felixecho		2011-06-17 08:26:43 PM

HST's Dead Carcass: Ya know, I've ranted about this stuff before, and it just keeps getting better. This stuff seriously farked up my life, kind of like Meth does for other people. When all was said and done, my social life was in a shambles and never actually recovered. Chantix is bad news (for some people).

Sorry man. I had horrible, life altering effects from Ambien. I only took that stuff for 2 weeks. I became bulemic, very depressed, and very nearly attempted suicide. Ever since then I stay far away from new drugs.

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