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(WUSA 9)   Ho-hum: County gov't shuts down kids' lemonade stand. News: County also fines parents $500. Fark: The kids were raising money for pediatric cancer   (wusa9.com) divider line 207
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2011-06-18 05:49:26 PM
cowsaregoodeating: Step 1.) Open a hot dog stand next to a baseball stadium on game day
Step 2.) Hire kids to hang around and claim all profits go to charity
Step 3.) Profit!

Those stupid people who get licenses and follow the law are suckers.


exactly. Lets just throw all of the laws out.. we can handle the thunderdome!
 
2011-06-18 06:03:04 PM
'Lemonade stand' my ass. These kids are selling bottled water, coke, diet coke and lemonade. Nothing homemade about this and just a simple media ploy to make the 'kids' seem like the victim. They were on someone else's property, conducting business without a license. Simple enough to warn them twice to move, and then give them a ticket on the third time.


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"BETHESDA, Md. -- It was a case of bureaucracy run amok, at least from the perspective of the children operating a lemonade stand for charity near the U.S. Open.

Kids from two families put up the stand on private property -- a neighbor's yard that just happens to be on a corner across from a spectator entrance to Congressional.

During Thursday's first round, they received three visits from county officials, twice with a warning. The third time, a citation was issued for operating the stand without a permit. It carried a fine of up to $500 and required a court appearance.


"Does every kid now that sells lemonade have to register with the county?" Carrie Marriott, whose children were hawking the drinks, asked a county official in an exchange caught on video by WUSA-TV.

The answer: yes. In theory, every lemonade stand in every private yard is supposed to have a permit. It's a law that's not usually enforced, but Montgomery County spokeswoman Bonnie Ayers said this particular stand could create a safety hazard in an area where police want to keep vehicular and pedestrian traffic moving during the tournament.

"This was just not a good corner for them to be attracting people," Ayers said, "and they did not have a permit."

Since fining kids over a lemonade stand can be a public relations nightmare, a deal was worked out. On Friday, the stand was moved down the street and the citation was rescinded. The county also waived the need for a permit, which would have cost about $38.

A homemade sign at the old location announced: "Grand Reopening: 25 Feet Down."

"We were pleased there was a resolution," said Rene Augustine, who has three children manning the stand. "It's been a lesson for them, probably more in entrepreneurship than philanthropy."

Augustine said the plan had been to donate 50 percent of the proceeds to Just Tryan It, a nonprofit that helps children with cancer. Now it's all going to charity."
 
2011-06-18 06:23:07 PM
Gulper Eel: foxyshadis: FOOD - SEASONAL OR TEMPORARY LICENSE
For Profit 14 Days or Less Selling Potentially Hazardous or
Open Food (Including samples), Each License at an Event $65
or
Nonprofit Less than 14 Consecutive Days Selling Hazardous Food $30

Your research skills suck. All it takes is a call or visit to City Hall if you aren't sure, as I'm sure most of the vendors did, and if the mom really is involved in business and charity then she would know more than anyone about how important licenses are in the business world.

I saw that form, too. And a second form very much like it, as noted upthread. Both of them larded down with jargon and legalese obviously directed at far larger operations.


Yet you kept promulgating the $365 number despite seeing it? If you think a simple list with things like "Bingo - Annual license $345" is legalese, I can't help you. For reference, this is the list I'm talking about (new window), linked off of every page on the permit section of the site.

files.sharenator.com

You have an axe to grind, plain and simple. Someone in City Hall once farked you over and you've never forgotten it. Fine, campaign against them, argue about their usefulness, but using hyperbole makes you a troll. I will absolutely guarantee you that AW mom here would have spent every dime to bankrupt the county if one of her kids was hit by a driver, the primary reason she was shut down. If she hadn't put her kids and other drivers in danger in an effort to maximize profits, and it really was just the kids and not a bunch of adults running it, officials would have politely looked the other way for a "fee" of a few drinks here and there.
 
2011-06-18 09:13:54 PM
zulius: /Approves!

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I did it for the ponies!

/look at the manes!
 
2011-06-19 06:12:06 AM
PsiChick: The update says it was because they were likely to get hit by traffic. It sounds more like 'idiot parents got mad when police pointed out that kids could get hit by a car' than 'evil county official shuts down poor kid's lemonade stand'. The police were probably a bit douchy because the lemonade stand was so big, too.

/Parents, WHY would you let your kids near traffic?


And yet it was okay for all the locals to cause that massive traffic hazard by allowing people to charge fees to park in their yards...long as they paid the county the required baksheesh.

The governments near me where Tour events are played do not allow locals to turn their back yards into parking lots - fans have to park at a corporate parking lot nearby and take the shuttle bus.

/Government, WHY would you let traffic near children?

foxyshadis: Yet you kept promulgating the $365 number despite seeing it? If you think a simple list with things like "Bingo - Annual license $345" is legalese, I can't help you. For reference, this is the list I'm talking about (new window), linked off of every page on the permit section of the site.

And nowhere on that list does the phrase "lemonade stand" or anything like it appear. Plenty of stuff about larger-scale activities, though.

And all that you posted is the fee schedule...the actual forms to fill out DO contain lots of crapola about 501(c)(3)'s and tax-ID numbers, as noted upthread.

themishkin: 'Lemonade stand' my ass. These kids are selling bottled water, coke, diet coke and lemonade. Nothing homemade about this

What, sell actual fresh lemonade and bring the health department down on them for not wearing gloves and hairnets and not using a properly-inspected water supply?
 
2011-06-19 03:07:36 PM
Gulper Eel: PsiChick: The update says it was because they were likely to get hit by traffic. It sounds more like 'idiot parents got mad when police pointed out that kids could get hit by a car' than 'evil county official shuts down poor kid's lemonade stand'. The police were probably a bit douchy because the lemonade stand was so big, too.

/Parents, WHY would you let your kids near traffic?

And yet it was okay for all the locals to cause that massive traffic hazard by allowing people to charge fees to park in their yards...long as they paid the county the required baksheesh.

The governments near me where Tour events are played do not allow locals to turn their back yards into parking lots - fans have to park at a corporate parking lot nearby and take the shuttle bus.

/Government, WHY would you let traffic near children?


Actually, the article said they were near a stoplight. The traffic came from being too far off the sidewalk.
 
2011-06-19 05:11:27 PM
themishkin: "Augustine said the plan had been to donate 50 percent of the proceeds to Just Tryan It, a nonprofit that helps children with cancer. Now it's all going to charity."

Wow, so not only were they being total douches, they were being lieing total douches. Only 50% of profits? I'm suprised the county let the helicoptor mom off on this. They really shouldn't have.
 
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