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(WUSA 9)   Ho-hum: County gov't shuts down kids' lemonade stand. News: County also fines parents $500. Fark: The kids were raising money for pediatric cancer   ( wusa9.com) divider line
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2011-06-16 08:32:32 PM  
I predict that in this thread most of those if not all of those defending the county will be the same people who whine about government getting in the way of business. As they are every time this subject comes up.
 
2011-06-16 08:41:10 PM  
Damn, when I saw the station I guessed Fairfax...
 
2011-06-16 08:43:04 PM  
Way to go Mr. Inspector

/teach those kids about douchebag bureaucrats while they're young
 
2011-06-16 08:43:18 PM  
Then teach your kids about how government works and get them proper licenses and permits. It was at the US open, the kids were gonna make bank anyway.
 
2011-06-16 09:01:57 PM  

WhyteRaven74: I predict that in this thread most of those if not all of those defending the county will be the same people who whine about government getting in the way of business. As they are every time this subject comes up.


Wrong...Why would a "less-government" proponent defend the county on this one?
 
2011-06-16 09:11:22 PM  
Why do these headlines always fail to point out the the kids set up the stand either somewhere where you aren't allowed to sell stuff or in direct competition with vendors who have paid to get a liscense and/or a stall and also have to make sure they can pass health inspections?

Almost every time a "Evil county official shuts down poor kid's lemonade stand" it always turns out to be something like that. I'll save my outrage for another time.
 
2011-06-16 09:14:44 PM  

Elvis_Bogart: Wrong...Why would a "less-government" proponent defend the county on this one?


Law and order.
 
2011-06-16 09:19:45 PM  
Urge to kill, rising.
 
2011-06-16 09:20:26 PM  
MoCo isn't what it used to be.

Maybe it's time to head to Tacky Park.
 
2011-06-16 09:27:15 PM  
What does Pediatric cancer need with money? I mean it's a cancer, right? Does it take that much money to mutate in a body?
 
2011-06-16 10:13:48 PM  
The government that is closest to you oppresses you the most.
 
2011-06-16 10:47:58 PM  
What's funny is that the county has given scores of other neighbors permits to let golf fans park on their front lawns. The permits cost almost $300, but prices per car run as much as $60 a day. And some neighbors are reportedly raking in tens of thousands of dollars.


"This gentleman from the county is now telling us because we don't have a vendors license, the kids won't be allowed to sell their lemonade," Carrie Marriott told us, her voice trembling.



Then go get a farking vendors license you stupid vapid little biatch.
 
2011-06-16 10:48:45 PM  
County government is a strange concept.
 
2011-06-16 11:27:06 PM  

Aarontology: County government is a strange concept.


The whole township thing baffles me more, yet another useless layer
 
2011-06-16 11:34:46 PM  
Was this poisonous lemonade? More to the point, is there any social benefit to a) charging a high fee for kids to sell lemonade, and b) keeping the public from having another beverage choice?

Cui bono? If not the public, then kiss off.
 
2011-06-17 01:53:03 AM  

Elvis_Bogart: Wrong...Why would a "less-government" proponent defend the county on this one?


because 9 times out of 10, "less-government" proponents side with the government. assuming "the government" is the same political persuasion as they are.
 
2011-06-17 03:21:56 AM  

Elvis_Bogart: WhyteRaven74: I predict that in this thread most of those if not all of those defending the county will be the same people who whine about government getting in the way of business. As they are every time this subject comes up.

Wrong...Why would a "less-government" proponent defend the county on this one?


Because they only complain about government getting in the way of corporations not small business. It's why they piss and moan about corporate taxes but won't think twice about small business legislation. At their core they're just authoritarians who easily substitute big government with big business.
 
2011-06-17 03:38:38 AM  
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2011-06-17 03:40:51 AM  

Snarfangel: Was this poisonous lemonade? More to the point, is there any social benefit to a) charging a high fee for kids to sell lemonade, and b) keeping the public from having another beverage choice?

Cui bono? If not the public, then kiss off.


Would your view change if the parents were selling the lemonade rather than the kids?
 
2011-06-17 03:43:11 AM  

Snarfangel: Was this poisonous lemonade? More to the point, is there any social benefit to a) charging a high fee for kids to sell lemonade, and b) keeping the public from having another beverage choice?

Cui bono? If not the public, then kiss off.


Sorry to be a wet blanket, but if you make a 'kids' exception, corporations will start using kids to skirt adult responsibilities.

Capitalism is like a rising river - if you leave any crack in the levy, the water will find it and drown you.
 
2011-06-17 03:43:34 AM  
This is exactly why we need to deregulate all industry!
 
2011-06-17 03:46:58 AM  
Good thing. Personally hate lemonaide stands. Pressure from little varmits to buy something you don't want or need just cause they're the ones selling it. Get the proper permit or get the F out.

/should be a permit for begging too
 
2011-06-17 03:57:01 AM  
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and then said, i'll huff and i'll puff and i'll blow your house down...
 
2011-06-17 03:59:22 AM  

Bunnyhat: What's funny is that the county has given scores of other neighbors permits to let golf fans park on their front lawns. The permits cost almost $300, but prices per car run as much as $60 a day. And some neighbors are reportedly raking in tens of thousands of dollars.


"This gentleman from the county is now telling us because we don't have a vendors license, the kids won't be allowed to sell their lemonade," Carrie Marriott told us, her voice trembling.


Then go get a farking vendors license you stupid vapid little biatch.


TFA also says that she ignored warnings.

B-bbut it's for pediatric cancer!

I smell bullsh*t here; it's more likely she's an AW and the snowflakes are too.
 
2011-06-17 04:01:58 AM  
I can see closing them down. But a $500 fine on top of that? Wtf?
 
2011-06-17 04:03:12 AM  

JackalRabbit: Good thing. Personally hate lemonaide stands. Pressure from little varmits to buy something you don't want or need just cause they're the ones selling it. Get the proper permit or get the F out.

/should be a permit for begging too


What they're doing isn't much different from panhandling, and the cancer issue is a nice twist.
I wonder how much Mommy takes off the top for her expenses.
 
2011-06-17 04:03:23 AM  

Thoguh: Why do these headlines always fail to point out the the kids set up the stand either somewhere where you aren't allowed to sell stuff or in direct competition with vendors who have paid to get a liscense and/or a stall and also have to make sure they can pass health inspections?

Almost every time a "Evil county official shuts down poor kid's lemonade stand" it always turns out to be something like that. I'll save my outrage for another time.


This.

I'm also reminded of the headline that suggested some guy got fined by the evil government simply for paying a bill with pennies. No, he was fined for disorderly conduct because he was being a raving, spastic asshat and dumped a ton of pennies on a counter and demanded some clerk count them.

But back to the topic at hand. Ultimately we have laws and regulations for a reason. Just because you break them in the name of a good cause doesn't make it okay or legal.
 
2011-06-17 04:04:24 AM  
You win this round, pediatric cancer.
 
2011-06-17 04:10:31 AM  

AbbeySomeone: JackalRabbit: Good thing. Personally hate lemonaide stands. Pressure from little varmits to buy something you don't want or need just cause they're the ones selling it. Get the proper permit or get the F out.

/should be a permit for begging too

What they're doing isn't much different from panhandling, and the cancer issue is a nice twist.
I wonder how much Mommy takes off the top for her expenses.


So I read that as "mom taking her top off" and wondered WTF......

/then i read it the right way (left to right)
 
2011-06-17 04:11:14 AM  

Old enough to know better: I can see closing them down. But a $500 fine on top of that? Wtf?


They received several warnings. My guess is that they were told to shut down and didn't, so the fine was the county's way of showing them they were serious.

/used to sell lemonade as a kid at our garage sales.
//we had a lemon tree.
///bet these kids made theirs from instant.
 
2011-06-17 04:11:37 AM  
So would subby be fine if he was throwing a promotional event for his work and I hung around the entrance pestering the guests to buy my off-brand rolexes? Because this wasn't a random lemonade stand by their driveway or something, it was at an official event owned by someone that paid a lot of money to use the park.

"It's for charity" is not an excuse, when you're doing something for charity you should be especially careful to get the proper permits and so on.

//I can't blame the kids for this, but only because I blame the parents entirely, farking assholes that they are. Who sets a kid up like that, even their own? What a dick.
 
2011-06-17 04:12:05 AM  
I dunno, man. Stuff feels fishy.

They were warned repeatedly and ignored the warnings. Only after that did they get hit with the fine.

Also, when they tried to say it was just a little lemonade stand run by a couple of kids, the inspector said there was a shiatton of coolers. That's not just some kids with a couple of pitchers. It sounds like if they had been just out there with a couple of pitchers and only due to make 10 bucks, they would have been left alone.

I'm leaning towards the parents using their kids to make some money. If that's the case, you should have paid for the damned permit. It doesn't matter if it is for donating to cancer research or not; you don't get a free pass to do something because of that and because you're small and cute.
 
2011-06-17 04:12:34 AM  
I wasn't aware that having cancer made you immune to follow the law.

Oh wait, it doesn't. Good on county for enforcing standards; next time read the manual.
 
2011-06-17 04:21:16 AM  

cyclebiff: I wasn't aware that having pediatric cancer made you immune to follow the law.

Oh wait, it doesn't. Good on county for enforcing standards; next time read the manual.


You heartless bastard, it's for children.
 
2011-06-17 04:22:59 AM  
What a bunch of f*cked up kids! If it were me, I'd be raising money AGAINST pediatric cancer!

Heinous!
 
2011-06-17 04:31:02 AM  
Pediatric cancer.....that's just a smaller version of regular cancer isn't it?
 
2011-06-17 04:33:12 AM  

JackalRabbit: Pediatric cancer.....that's just a smaller version of regular cancer isn't it?


Smaller, but with a mighty kick.
 
2011-06-17 04:59:36 AM  
If they had set up their lemonade stand on their own property rather than on a busy road and they hadn't ignored the warnings they were given I'd feel a bit more sympathy for them.

Here's a link (new window) to where they were. You can see the Persimmon Tree sign behind them in the video.
 
2011-06-17 05:06:40 AM  
"The message to kids is, there's no American dream."

yup. basically.

i was driving to 7-11 the other day to buy smokes and happened to pass some kid with a little table and sign selling lemonade with her dad sitting beside her over on holloway near la cienega. as i passed it on my way to buy my adult-only consumable (it's gonna kill me, i know), i recalled my days with my little stand out front of my parents' yard selling snowcones from some silly little snoopy branded snowcone maker. i loved that little thing and i loved my time out doing it.

granted, for me it was in a little suburb in the rural south back in the early 80s, so people weren't assholes.

as i was driving back by, i stopped and gave her 5 bucks for a cup of her lemonade that i chugged in about 2 seconds. i know that would have made my day back when it was me doing the same thing.

/feel good story of my year
 
2011-06-17 05:12:43 AM  
The county is just imposing a douchy way to make their cut if people want to benefit from the venue traffic. Do they provide any service for their fees? Does a heath inspector insure no Giardia in the lemonade water? Soil analysis where cars parked on lawns? Do garage sale permits inspect for things being neatly placed in a garage so accidents cant occur to patrons? These aren't like occupational licenses. No services are provided, just money collected. Living on a thouroughfare near a venue can be a pain in the butt. You should be granted the right to it being a perk as well on your own property without being imposed a fee for doing so. That's what property taxes are for. Street vendors pay for a temporary residence permit. As a homeowner should already have one by default.
 
2011-06-17 05:18:50 AM  
I dunno. I can't really feel any outrage here.
 
2011-06-17 05:28:04 AM  

ByOwlLight: I'm leaning towards the parents using their kids to make some money.


I'm pretty sure that the Carrie Marriott in the story is the same Carrie Marriott who's married to one of the very high-ups in the Marriott Hotel business. If they're doing this to make money for themselves then the recession must really be getting them. :)
 
2011-06-17 05:30:43 AM  

PopularFront: ByOwlLight: I'm leaning towards the parents using their kids to make some money.

I'm pretty sure that the Carrie Marriott in the story is the same Carrie Marriott who's married to one of the very high-ups in the Marriott Hotel business. If they're doing this to make money for themselves then the recession must really be getting them. :)


That just makes her an entitled AW.
Rules don't apply to the wealthy or their children.
 
2011-06-17 05:33:19 AM  

PopularFront: ByOwlLight: I'm leaning towards the parents using their kids to make some money.

I'm pretty sure that the Carrie Marriott in the story is the same Carrie Marriott who's married to one of the very high-ups in the Marriott Hotel business. If they're doing this to make money for themselves then the recession must really be getting them. :)


Imagine she could afford the proper permits then, hunh?
 
2011-06-17 05:42:53 AM  
When I was a kid, my friends and I had a lemonade stand outside of the local city hall (a smaller town), and the Mayor and Chief of Police just happened to be walking by and told us we needed a liscense to operate a lemonade stand. He also said that in order to get a liscense both he and the Chief of Police would need to test the lemonade to see if there might be anything in it.

So, we gave each of them a sample, and they went inside. After about five minutes of us being nervous (thinking we were in trouble), out comes to Mayor and his Secretary, with a car liscense plate, two nails, and a hammer. He told us that the samples we gave were fine and that he personally approved the liscense application (and proceeded to nail the plate to you wooden stand), and he made sure to call a bunch of people working that day to come over and buy some lemonade from us. Heck, he even insisted that if we were in need of more water for our lemonade we could come inside the City Hall and his Secretary would help us make some more to sell.

Ahhh, those were the days, nice people. I doubt something like that could happen today.
 
2011-06-17 05:49:44 AM  

JackalRabbit: PopularFront: ByOwlLight: I'm leaning towards the parents using their kids to make some money.

I'm pretty sure that the Carrie Marriott in the story is the same Carrie Marriott who's married to one of the very high-ups in the Marriott Hotel business. If they're doing this to make money for themselves then the recession must really be getting them. :)

Imagine she could afford the proper permits then, hunh?


I doubt the county would issue one for the location they picked. Not only is it not in front of their house (the HUGE one down at the other end of the street), it's a major traffic hazard. The county guy was right to tell them to move. I imagine if they'd done so the first time they were asked they'd have avoided the fine.
 
2011-06-17 05:55:56 AM  
Police have come a long way. I remember an episode of Mayberry or the Andy Griffith show, where someone (Opie?) set up some sort of lemonade or fruit stand, and some old codger that ran the general store wanted them shut down because they didn't have a license. And Andy just dicked with the old guy the whole episode, basically "for the lulz", and let the stand owner keep running the stand. (Anyone remember that episode?)
 
2011-06-17 05:56:34 AM  

Old enough to know better: I can see closing them down. But a $500 fine on top of that? Wtf?


After repeated warnings.
 
2011-06-17 05:56:56 AM  
Carrie Marriott is having a hard time reconciling the two different perspectives on entrepreneurship at the US Open. "The message to kids is, there's no American dream."


Actually..

The permits cost almost $300, but prices per car run as much as $60 a day. And some neighbors are reportedly raking in tens of thousands of dollars.


Making money hand over fist seems like the american dream to me, she sounds bitter because her kids chose the lemonade game like suckers and had to watch the people who wisely chose the extort overprivliged rich golf fans for parking game rake in the money like ballers.
 
2011-06-17 06:02:06 AM  

JonnyBGoode: Police have come a long way. I remember an episode of Mayberry or the Andy Griffith show, where someone (Opie?) set up some sort of lemonade or fruit stand, and some old codger that ran the general store wanted them shut down because they didn't have a license. And Andy just dicked with the old guy the whole episode, basically "for the lulz", and let the stand owner keep running the stand. (Anyone remember that episode?)


The Merchant of Mayberry. My ex just found it, lol.
 
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