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(Christian Science Monitor)   Prosecution's case left key questions unresolved in Casey Anthony trial. Such as: "Do you want to be the husband, or do you want to be the wife?" And, "Which arm would you prefer we use?"   (csmonitor.com) divider line 76
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2011-06-16 10:33:26 AM
I'd like to cum on her face
 
2011-06-16 10:33:52 AM
Taught mom?
 
2011-06-16 10:34:01 AM
FTA: Among the unanswered questions:

How did she die?

Where did she die?

Why did she die?

I'm pretty sure that was covered in their opening statements of how/where/why. Something about duct tape over the mouth is how she died and why. Obviously this reporter was sleeping because I remember hearing about the prosecutions arguments a week ago on the news here in Chicago.
 
2011-06-16 10:34:46 AM
FTA: With the conclusion of the prosecution's circumstantial case in the Casey Anthony murder trial, several mysteries remain, including how her daughter died and why, and who is Casey Anthony?

memedepot.com
 
2011-06-16 10:35:26 AM

Orgasmatron138: Taught mom?


solipsism2.files.wordpress.com
 
2011-06-16 10:36:44 AM

thefireandpassion: FTA: Among the unanswered questions:

How did she die?

Where did she die?

Why did she die?

I'm pretty sure that was covered in their opening statements of how/where/why. Something about duct tape over the mouth is how she died and why. Obviously this reporter was sleeping because I remember hearing about the prosecutions arguments a week ago on the news here in Chicago.


I think that seems to be the biggest hole right there. They seemed to spend most of the trial arguing facts nobody disagreed on, like that her body was in the trunk. Nobody is denying that at this point, so why the need for experts? I don't see a first or second degree conviction. Almost can see an accidental manslaughter ten years charge.
 
2011-06-16 10:37:05 AM

TheBlackrose: Orgasmatron138: Taught mom?


Is.... is that David Bowie in drag?
 
2011-06-16 10:37:48 AM

thefireandpassion: FTA: Among the unanswered questions:

How did she die?

Where did she die?

Why did she die?

I'm pretty sure that was covered in their opening statements of how/where/why. Something about duct tape over the mouth is how she died and why. Obviously this reporter was sleeping because I remember hearing about the prosecutions arguments a week ago on the news here in Chicago.


No. It really wasn't. Duct tape was used but they (they being at least one prosecution expert witness) couldn't say if that was actually used to suffocate her or if it was just put on after the fact.

And I'm not even TRYING to follow this goddamn story. Can you set up Google News to filter this kind of crap out so I don't even have to accidentally read anything about it? That'd be great.
 
2011-06-16 10:39:33 AM

Koalaesq: TheBlackrose: Orgasmatron138: Taught mom?

Is.... is that David Bowie in drag?


David Bowie looks prettier than that.
 
2011-06-16 10:39:59 AM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: thefireandpassion: FTA: Among the unanswered questions:

How did she die?

Where did she die?

Why did she die?

I'm pretty sure that was covered in their opening statements of how/where/why. Something about duct tape over the mouth is how she died and why. Obviously this reporter was sleeping because I remember hearing about the prosecutions arguments a week ago on the news here in Chicago.

No. It really wasn't. Duct tape was used but they (they being at least one prosecution expert witness) couldn't say if that was actually used to suffocate her or if it was just put on after the fact.

And I'm not even TRYING to follow this goddamn story. Can you set up Google News to filter this kind of crap out so I don't even have to accidentally read anything about it? That'd be great.


I'm still going with the theory was going to party, had no sitter, tried to knock the child out and accidentally killed her.
 
2011-06-16 10:41:39 AM

Koalaesq: TheBlackrose: Orgasmatron138: Taught mom?

Is.... is that David Bowie in drag?


I think it's 80s David Bowie from Labyrinth.
 
2011-06-16 10:41:41 AM
The kid is dead, Anthony lied about it. That's about the size of it. She's definitely not mother-of-the-year material, but her stories don't shake out. Plus her lawyer is a schmuck, regardless of what the prosecuter is doing.
 
2011-06-16 10:41:53 AM

EWreckedSean: thefireandpassion: FTA: Among the unanswered questions:

How did she die?

Where did she die?

Why did she die?

I'm pretty sure that was covered in their opening statements of how/where/why. Something about duct tape over the mouth is how she died and why. Obviously this reporter was sleeping because I remember hearing about the prosecutions arguments a week ago on the news here in Chicago.

I think that seems to be the biggest hole right there. They seemed to spend most of the trial arguing facts nobody disagreed on, like that her body was in the trunk. Nobody is denying that at this point, so why the need for experts? I don't see a first or second degree conviction. Almost can see an accidental manslaughter ten years charge.


Good enough, my over/under before someone takes care of her in prison is 2, that leaves an 8yr cushion
 
2011-06-16 10:42:06 AM
I always love the "It's a circumstantial evidence" case, completely ignoring the fact that most cases rely primarily on circumstantial evidence. This isn't TV, you don't have to have someone show up at the last minute and shock everyone by claiming "I saw everything!"
 
2011-06-16 10:42:19 AM

TheBlackrose: Orgasmatron138: Taught mom?


Taut mom? (not a misspelling...)

/ Are there dingoes in the area?
// Flipness because A) this is FARK and B) this sort of thing pisses me off.
 
2011-06-16 10:42:23 AM

EWreckedSean: StreetlightInTheGhetto: thefireandpassion: FTA: Among the unanswered questions:

How did she die?

Where did she die?

Why did she die?

I'm pretty sure that was covered in their opening statements of how/where/why. Something about duct tape over the mouth is how she died and why. Obviously this reporter was sleeping because I remember hearing about the prosecutions arguments a week ago on the news here in Chicago.

No. It really wasn't. Duct tape was used but they (they being at least one prosecution expert witness) couldn't say if that was actually used to suffocate her or if it was just put on after the fact.

And I'm not even TRYING to follow this goddamn story. Can you set up Google News to filter this kind of crap out so I don't even have to accidentally read anything about it? That'd be great.

I'm still going with the theory was going to party, had no sitter, tried to knock the child out and accidentally killed her.


Didn't even think of that. Killed by epic, indifferent stupidity rather than malice. Wow.
 
2011-06-16 10:42:37 AM

gearsprocket: I'd like to cum on her face...


...right after she's convicted and she's crying...
 
2011-06-16 10:42:43 AM
I think she put ducttape over the childs mouth and she put her in the trunk. She may not have meant to kill her but who knows? I hope she gets life. She's a vile human being.
 
2011-06-16 10:42:53 AM

gearsprocket: I'd like to cum on her face


She has to pay for those legal bills somehow...
 
2011-06-16 10:45:03 AM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: thefireandpassion: FTA: Among the unanswered questions:

How did she die?

Where did she die?

Why did she die?

I'm pretty sure that was covered in their opening statements of how/where/why. Something about duct tape over the mouth is how she died and why. Obviously this reporter was sleeping because I remember hearing about the prosecutions arguments a week ago on the news here in Chicago.

No. It really wasn't. Duct tape was used but they (they being at least one prosecution expert witness) couldn't say if that was actually used to suffocate her or if it was just put on after the fact.

And I'm not even TRYING to follow this goddamn story. Can you set up Google News to filter this kind of crap out so I don't even have to accidentally read anything about it? That'd be great.


Seriously, THIS. I only bothered to learn the gist of this murder case a few weeks ago, and now it won't get the fark off my TV, radio, and internet. It's farking OJ Simpson 2: Electric Boogaloo, only with less Kato pissing me off and more Nancy Grace.
 
2011-06-16 10:45:47 AM

EWreckedSean: StreetlightInTheGhetto: thefireandpassion: FTA: Among the unanswered questions:

How did she die?

Where did she die?

Why did she die?

I'm pretty sure that was covered in their opening statements of how/where/why. Something about duct tape over the mouth is how she died and why. Obviously this reporter was sleeping because I remember hearing about the prosecutions arguments a week ago on the news here in Chicago.

No. It really wasn't. Duct tape was used but they (they being at least one prosecution expert witness) couldn't say if that was actually used to suffocate her or if it was just put on after the fact.

And I'm not even TRYING to follow this goddamn story. Can you set up Google News to filter this kind of crap out so I don't even have to accidentally read anything about it? That'd be great.

I'm still going with the theory was going to party, had no sitter, tried to knock the child out and accidentally killed her.


The sad thing is, if your theory is correct, melatonin would have been just as effective, and more importantly, not deadly.

She's definitely guilty of something. But I have a feeling she is going to get off. Juries can be stupid and this is Florida, so nobody should be encouraged by the quality of the jury pool. The prosecution just couldn't produce a smoking gun that definitively ties her to the crime. Lots of smoke, but no fire.
 
2011-06-16 10:47:20 AM

Kalashinator: StreetlightInTheGhetto: thefireandpassion: FTA: Among the unanswered questions:

How did she die?

Where did she die?

Why did she die?

I'm pretty sure that was covered in their opening statements of how/where/why. Something about duct tape over the mouth is how she died and why. Obviously this reporter was sleeping because I remember hearing about the prosecutions arguments a week ago on the news here in Chicago.

No. It really wasn't. Duct tape was used but they (they being at least one prosecution expert witness) couldn't say if that was actually used to suffocate her or if it was just put on after the fact.

And I'm not even TRYING to follow this goddamn story. Can you set up Google News to filter this kind of crap out so I don't even have to accidentally read anything about it? That'd be great.

Seriously, THIS. I only bothered to learn the gist of this murder case a few weeks ago, and now it won't get the fark off my TV, radio, and internet. It's farking OJ Simpson 2: Electric Boogaloo, only with less Kato pissing me off and more Nancy Grace.


I would pay for total fark if it had a filter by which I could enter various names of celebrities, and headlines having to do with those celebs would never appear on my screen. Kind of like how you can block other farkers' posts.
 
2011-06-16 10:47:25 AM

EWreckedSean: StreetlightInTheGhetto: thefireandpassion: FTA: Among the unanswered questions:

How did she die?

Where did she die?

Why did she die?

I'm pretty sure that was covered in their opening statements of how/where/why. Something about duct tape over the mouth is how she died and why. Obviously this reporter was sleeping because I remember hearing about the prosecutions arguments a week ago on the news here in Chicago.

No. It really wasn't. Duct tape was used but they (they being at least one prosecution expert witness) couldn't say if that was actually used to suffocate her or if it was just put on after the fact.

And I'm not even TRYING to follow this goddamn story. Can you set up Google News to filter this kind of crap out so I don't even have to accidentally read anything about it? That'd be great.

I'm still going with the theory was going to party, had no sitter, tried to knock the child out and accidentally killed her.


I think there's really little question in anyone's mind that she killed her kid. The only question is whether your assumption is correct and the kid died by accident or she killed the kid intentionally. THAT will be hardest to prove, and may simply come down to how much the jury hates her. Her bizarre actions make her so damn untrustworthy, I think they'll believe the latter.
 
2011-06-16 10:51:03 AM
Unfortunately I don't think there's any way they're going to get the death penalty on her. Which is fine by me - life in prison seems like a worse punishment than a quick out.

/And no, 'rotting in hell' is not a punish anyone faces, so might as well make them pay in this life as much as possible
 
2011-06-16 10:52:11 AM

RedEmily: I think she put ducttape over the childs mouth and she put her in the trunk. She may not have meant to kill her but who knows? I hope she gets life. She's a vile human being.


I agree with this. She won't get life however. Remember, this is the state that elected Rick Scott. Florida is a death penalty state. :\

/life in a cell wallpapered with pictures of her kid is a more appropriate punishment.
 
2011-06-16 10:53:01 AM

acaciaavenue: gearsprocket: I'd like to cum on her face...

...right after she's convicted and she's crying...


^

abfalter: gearsprocket: I'd like to cum on her face

She has to pay for those legal bills somehow...


I agree completely. I would be willing to give her a nickel and a few pennies for that after I conduct my business.
 
2011-06-16 10:57:00 AM
I completely agree with the "knock the kid out and go party" theory, she wouldn't be the first parent to kill their kid this way, and I'm guessing the only reason they didn't present that scenario to the jury is because they want a 1st degree conviction, if she killed the kid by "accident" with chloroform, they'd have to drop it to 2nd or manslaughter.

As far as I'm concerned, the kid is dead and Casey, her MOTHER, was responsible for her, so no matter whatever the fark happened to her, it's Casey's fault. If my kid died on my watch, I'd be begging for the needle in my arm.
 
2011-06-16 11:02:40 AM
I'm a subscriber to the 'knock the kid out and go party' theory. I interpret it to mean that although her daughter's death was technically accidental, the mother acted so farking recklessly and negligently that it still qualifies as malice aforethought, and thus, the crime is still murder.
 
2011-06-16 11:06:23 AM

Millennium: I'm a subscriber to the 'knock the kid out and go party' theory. I interpret it to mean that although her daughter's death was technically accidental, the mother acted so farking recklessly and negligently that it still qualifies as malice aforethought, and thus, the crime is still murder.


I hope you are right.
 
2011-06-16 11:08:53 AM
No matter how high the stink factor, no one should get the death penalty on a circumstantial case. Frankly, no one should even be convicted of murder on a circumstantial case.
 
2011-06-16 11:10:39 AM

Stephicus: I completely agree with the "knock the kid out and go party" theory, she wouldn't be the first parent to kill their kid this way, and I'm guessing the only reason they didn't present that scenario to the jury is because they want a 1st degree conviction, if she killed the kid by "accident" with chloroform, they'd have to drop it to 2nd or manslaughter.

As far as I'm concerned, the kid is dead and Casey, her MOTHER, was responsible for her, so no matter whatever the fark happened to her, it's Casey's fault. If my kid died on my watch, I'd be begging for the needle in my arm.


Here's the problem. The prosecution's case wasn't that she killed the kid by accident. Their case is pre-meditated murder. That's a much higher standard of conviction to achieve, and I honestly don't think they achieved it. Mind you, I think the woman is incredibly guilty, but there really is no single piece of evidence that ties her to the crime. And the jury has been treated to just how weird and dysfunctional this family is, that her defense team's assertions might seem plausible to a tired and not very bright juror.

Unless I'm mistaken, they can't convict her on a lesser charge of manslaughter.
 
2011-06-16 11:15:34 AM

gearsprocket: I'd like to cum on her face


Nancy Grace's?
 
2011-06-16 11:22:28 AM

Too Pretty For Prison: gearsprocket: I'd like to cum on her face

Nancy Grace's?


img219.imageshack.us

Yes, that.
 
2011-06-16 11:26:49 AM

Close2TheEdge: Unless I'm mistaken, they can't convict her on a lesser charge of manslaughter.


If that is the case, then I guess double jeopardy would then apply, unless there is some charge they did not charge her with just in case.
 
2011-06-16 11:30:34 AM

Too Pretty For Prison: gearsprocket: I'd like to cum on her face

Nancy Grace's?


I'd rather give Nancy a Dirty Sanchez. She seems like the type to appreciate it.
 
2011-06-16 11:34:38 AM

lawboy87: I always love the "It's a circumstantial evidence" case, completely ignoring the fact that most cases rely primarily on circumstantial evidence. This isn't TV, you don't have to have someone show up at the last minute and shock everyone by claiming "I saw everything!"


I think about that all the time, too. Like "oh my god, nobody confessed when we squeezed them - this doesn't stand a chance in court."

I love Law and Order and all, but goddamn. Investigations do not culminate in confessions.
 
2011-06-16 11:40:06 AM

Tom_Slick: Close2TheEdge: Unless I'm mistaken, they can't convict her on a lesser charge of manslaughter.

If that is the case, then I guess double jeopardy would then apply, unless there is some charge they did not charge her with just in case.



Because some prosecutors would do exactly that, there's usually a requirement that the defendant must be tried for all known offenses at the same time. So if the DA fails to get a conviction for any of the murder/manslaughter/abuse charges, he can't come back and re-try Anthony later for (let's say) kidnapping.
 
2011-06-16 11:41:11 AM

Stephicus: If my kid died on my watch, I'd be begging for the needle in my arm.


So, basically you want to kill all parents who had their kids die from SIDS, for example.

/blanket statements, they're stupid
 
2011-06-16 11:42:02 AM

Stephicus: I completely agree with the "knock the kid out and go party" theory, she wouldn't be the first parent to kill their kid this way, and I'm guessing the only reason they didn't present that scenario to the jury is because they want a 1st degree conviction, if she killed the kid by "accident" with chloroform, they'd have to drop it to 2nd or manslaughter.

As far as I'm concerned, the kid is dead and Casey, her MOTHER, was responsible for her, so no matter whatever the fark happened to her, it's Casey's fault. If my kid died on my watch, I'd be begging for the needle in my arm.


I'm on the fence with that theory. When this story first broke one of the people that was in her party group gave an interview and said that Casey would bring her daughter to house parties and would put her in a bedroom at the whoever house they were at, but her daughter would often wake up in the middle of the night and disrupt the party. Because of this she stopped being invited to house parties. This person also said that Casey didn't go out to clubs much before her daughter went missing because she couldn't get anybody to watch her kid. After the kid went missing she started showing up to house parties without her and hitting the clubs.

Because of the facts above I think she chloroformed her daughter so she didn't have to see her struggle and then put the duct taped over her head to suffocate her. This wasn't something that she was doing over a long period of time and she accidentally died. If she was chloroforming her to knock her out why would she duct tape her mouth, she would be knocked out so that didn't matter. Also her parents would have noticed evidence of her duct taping the kids mouth and head because taking it of would have pulled skin and hair off with it.
 
2011-06-16 11:42:07 AM

Too Pretty For Prison: gearsprocket: I'd like to cum on her face

Nancy Grace's?


I'm pretty sure Nancy Grace will bite it off as a reflex.
 
2011-06-16 11:42:17 AM

Close2TheEdge: Unless I'm mistaken, they can't convict her on a lesser charge of manslaughter.


I'm fairly certain that the jury will be instructed to consider lesser charges including aggravated child abuse, which is a felony. In that case, if the jury believes that Caylee died as a result, that means that the child died as a result of the commission of a felony, which leaves the death penalty on the table.
 
2011-06-16 11:45:10 AM

kellynoel: Close2TheEdge: Unless I'm mistaken, they can't convict her on a lesser charge of manslaughter.

I'm fairly certain that the jury will be instructed to consider lesser charges including aggravated child abuse, which is a felony. In that case, if the jury believes that Caylee died as a result, that means that the child died as a result of the commission of a felony, which leaves the death penalty on the table.


Does Florida have felony murder?

/actual question, not everyplace has felony murder, and not everyplace qualifies the same thing
 
2011-06-16 11:51:32 AM

gshepnyc: Too Pretty For Prison: gearsprocket: I'd like to cum on her face

Nancy Grace's?

I'd rather give Nancy a Dirty Sanchez. She seems like the type to appreciate it.


Her face looks like she's already had one.
 
2011-06-16 11:58:02 AM

Knara: kellynoel: Close2TheEdge: Unless I'm mistaken, they can't convict her on a lesser charge of manslaughter.

I'm fairly certain that the jury will be instructed to consider lesser charges including aggravated child abuse, which is a felony. In that case, if the jury believes that Caylee died as a result, that means that the child died as a result of the commission of a felony, which leaves the death penalty on the table.

Does Florida have felony murder?

/actual question, not everyplace has felony murder, and not everyplace qualifies the same thing



The Florida felony murder statute (new window) requires an accomplice - that is, it's geared toward the "Bill and Bob rob a store and Bob kills the store owner, so Bill can be charged with murder" type of scenario.

Also, felony murder in Florida is not a capital crime, so the only way Anthony is going to get a death sentence is with a conviction on the highest count.
 
2011-06-16 12:00:25 PM

Orgasmatron138: gshepnyc: Too Pretty For Prison: gearsprocket: I'd like to cum on her face

Nancy Grace's?

I'd rather give Nancy a Dirty Sanchez. She seems like the type to appreciate it.

Her face looks like she's already had one.


I like how her face is always screwing up in lip-curled sneer like she is smelling her own vag for the first time and doesn't know what to make of it.
 
2011-06-16 12:02:47 PM
It seems that all the prosecution does is object to everything.
 
2011-06-16 12:09:25 PM
I am a copy editor for a company that runs TV station websites.

We have eight sites in Florida.

I will cheerfully pull the trigger, press the plunger, throw the switch or open the trap door myself if it will just MAKE THIS SHIAT END.
 
2011-06-16 12:13:02 PM

ScottRiqui: The Florida felony murder statute (new window) requires an accomplice - that is, it's geared toward the "Bill and Bob rob a store and Bob kills the store owner, so Bill can be charged with murder" type of scenario.

Also, felony murder in Florida is not a capital crime, so the only way Anthony is going to get a death sentence is with a conviction on the highest count.



Interesting.

I was in the jury pool for a felony murder trial once. I don't recall, but I must have written down something snarky on the questionaire about felony murder (and that I think it's by and large just a way for prosecutors to end-run around proper legal practice by blaming someone for murder, who in fact, didn't actually kill someone), cuz the defense kept calling on me during the preliminary questioning phase to ask me about felony murder.

Prosecutor was not pleased, but apparently couldn't do anything about it but stew in his chair.

/was not picked for that jury
 
2011-06-16 12:17:29 PM

EWreckedSean: I'm still going with the theory was going to party, had no sitter, tried to knock the child out and accidentally killed her.


My mom's been following the case, and she also believes this is the case..

She believes that if she'd intended to kill her daughter that she would have had a better disposal strategy than keeping the body in her car, in Florida, for weeks.
 
2011-06-16 12:18:12 PM

Koalaesq: TheBlackrose: Orgasmatron138: Taught mom?

Is.... is that David Bowie in drag?


Looked more like Dee Snider to me
 
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