The problem with NPS is that they are so car focused that they just don't understand urban areas that depend on mass transit. When I worked there in NEPA compliance job we got mass transit, bicycling, and traffic reduction comments all tje time. They were usually laughed at. So yeah, expect a camp designed around RVs and people driving in, followed by NPS not undetstanding why they are getting sub 50 percent utilization rates.

Which is sad since they have gotten urban camping right in the past at Boston Harbor.

I got some news for you, NPS; there's already a LOT of urban "camping" in America.

Queens:



Manhattan:



The Bronx:



/it's not common, but it does exist
//just sayin's all

Hell yes, excellent plan. What could go wrong?

Will they allow trapping on said property?

rev. dave: This is a MAJOR FAIL waiting to happen. It will either become a good patrol ground for prosecuting federal crimes by the park service or it will turn into a homeless haven.

The NPS manages one of the biggest beaches in the NYC area. Its also the best public beach there is around here. Very clean, they don't have a bazillion silly rules like every other shore town has, and most importantly, let you fish, bring a dog, and drink beer.

Aside from being anal about speeding, the rangers\park police are all nice, helpful guys, who are content to let you do your own thing as long as you don't bug anyone else.

The state parks on the other hand, border on concentration camps.

LineNoise: The state parks on the other hand, border on concentration camps.

Then they should either move the parks, or move the camps.

urger: The problem with NPS is that they are so car focused that they just don't understand urban areas that depend on mass transit. When I worked there in NEPA compliance job we got mass transit, bicycling, and traffic reduction comments all tje time. They were usually laughed at. So yeah, expect a camp designed around RVs and people driving in, followed by NPS not undetstanding why they are getting sub 50 percent utilization rates.

Which is sad since they have gotten urban camping right in the past at Boston Harbor.

It's not like the subway goes all that close to Floyd Bennett. Plus I'd imagine that hauling camping equipment on a subway/bus would be a biatch.

moops: NYC isn't all skyscrapers and row houses. There's a lot of land that looks suburban and in some places rural. Parts of Jamaica Bay or the far-flung parts of Queens. As late as the 1990s, there were a few working farms on Staten Island.

apropos of nothing i suppose, there are family stories of my grandfather, who lived in Brooklyn riding his horse from his farm to school every morning in the 1910's

redmid17: Will they allow trapping on said property?

Should be interesting to see how NPS manages conflicts with NYC over the fact that federal law now allows guns to be carried in National Parks and NYC has strict handgun rules

moops: NYC isn't all skyscrapers and row houses. There's a lot of land that looks suburban and in some places rural. Parts of Jamaica Bay or the far-flung parts of Queens. As late as the 1990s, there were a few working farms on Staten Island.

Many people think NYC means Manhattan which has many skyscrapers, but forget that it also has Brooklyn, Queens, Staten Island and the Bronx, all of which have areas that look suburban. The area in the article, Floyd Bennett Field, borders with Jamaica Bay. There's also a Native American Powwow held there very year on Father's day weekend.

Joao: I've been to Floyd Bennet Field a few times when riding my bike over to Neponsit Beach. It is far from everything. No public transportation nearby. Still noisy due to Kennedy Airport nearby and all the people playing around with RC cars. Can't understand who would want to camp there.

Location on map. (new window)

Actually there's a bus that runs only during the summer months, from the Subway terminal to Riis Park, with a stop near the entrance to FBF.

FreakinB: Queens:

Manhattan:

The Bronx:

/it's not common, but it does exist
//just sayin's all

Here are some more. I live in queens and we in NYC have lots of good stuff
so here is some parks in queens

Forest Park- Has horseback riding, golf, hiking trails, one of the countries oldest carousels, etc





Oh yes and the gold course Link (new window)

Flushing Meadows-Corona park- Plus it has Arthur Ashe stadium, Citi Field, Ice Skating, a Botanical Garden, a world class aquatics center, an art museum, a science museum and a zoo. I bike here regularly. also there's boating on the various lakes













Cunningham park- Has a variety of sports fields, out door amphitheater and a dirt bike trail





Fort Totten- public part, former fort, you can go boating there




here are some pic links
Link (new window)Link (new window)Link (new window)

Alley Pond Park





Astoria Park- great parks and NYC's largest public pool (the bridge there is Hells Gate Bridge which is near the RFK-Triborough bridge




Kissena Park- Has a velodrome, biking, and sports fields



Jacob Riis Park- really a beach



Fort Tilden





also try the Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge, Beautiful place

If you in NYC you know about these areas that non-newyorkers don't realize are here (sorry some of the pics didn't come through)

Joao: rubi_con_man: There is no subway to Rockaway, only to Cony Island. Jacob Riis park is quite explicitly for people with access to a car.

The A train goes to the Rockaways. And you can get to Jacob Riis by bus.

But I do agree that Robert Moses was a bastard.

It does since the 1960's, not because of Robert Moses. The MTA took over the LIRR's Rockaway branch and use that to extend the A train to the Rockaways.

Joao: Peter Frampton's talk box: The subway stops a full mile short of FBF

Actually, the nearest subway stop (Sheepshead Bay station on the B & Q trains) is over 4 miles away.

I think the Flatbush Avenue terminal that he was talking about is closer than that, and you can get a bus from there to FBF.

Magorn: moops: NYC isn't all skyscrapers and row houses. There's a lot of land that looks suburban and in some places rural. Parts of Jamaica Bay or the far-flung parts of Queens. As late as the 1990s, there were a few working farms on Staten Island.

apropos of nothing i suppose, there are family stories of my grandfather, who lived in Brooklyn riding his horse from his farm to school every morning in the 1910's

You still had horse drawn milk carts in East New York as recently as the early 1960's.

Magorn: moops: NYC isn't all skyscrapers and row houses. There's a lot of land that looks suburban and in some places rural. Parts of Jamaica Bay or the far-flung parts of Queens. As late as the 1990s, there were a few working farms on Staten Island.

apropos of nothing i suppose, there are family stories of my grandfather, who lived in Brooklyn riding his horse from his farm to school every morning in the 1910's

until recently there was one last farm in queens, only about a 10 minute drive from where trumps mother lived. Today the farm is a museum though some of the houses in my area were converted farmhouses about 70 years ago. There are many nice areas in queens. Use google map
many nice neighborhoods