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2011-06-14 09:30:10 AM
It's a shame that only the fire department and a neighbor have ladders. If there had only been someone else who had a ladder, somewhere in the state, that would have rocked.
 
2011-06-14 11:25:47 AM
That black guy would do anything for pussy.
 
2011-06-14 11:26:35 AM
The problem wasn't that they didn't have ladders. The problem was, nobody in that state actually knew how to use a ladder. That's an advanced degree program in Pennsylvania.
 
2011-06-14 11:29:34 AM
Has anyone seen a dead cat in a tree before?


They got up there themselves, they can get down.
 
2011-06-14 11:29:39 AM
The Jami Turman Fan Club: The problem wasn't that they didn't have ladders. The problem was, nobody in that state actually knew how to use a ladder. That's an advanced degree program in Pennsylvania.

Our firefighters stand around and watch while a man drowns:

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=8161285
 
2011-06-14 11:30:25 AM
Hey man, firefighters need time to enjoy their cocaine and liquor before answering calls.
 
2011-06-14 11:31:08 AM
Really? 8 farking days to get a cat down from a tree?
 
2011-06-14 11:32:30 AM
Our family cat was once stuck in a tree for days. Big old pine tree, no low branches. Every time we tried to get her, she climbed further up. OMG, it was just horrible listening to her cry. 5 days into this ordeal, my father heard that cats could sustain falls of 100 feet with little or no injury.

So he sawed the branch she was on.

Kitty fell & ran back into the house. No injuries.

/Not a recommended solution
 
2011-06-14 11:35:51 AM
Galactic_Empanada: Has anyone seen a dead cat in a tree before?

They got up there themselves, they can get down.


Actually, most of the times, they can't. Cats claws aren't designed like a squirrel's--they can't go down head-first, so they have to painstakingly work their way backwards. Problem is, they're usually too weak to try it once they find they're stuck in a tree. They get there by either chasing something or being chased and, once the initial adrenaline wears off, they're stuck & just get weaker w/no food & water.

The reason you don't see many dead cats in trees is because they fall out. And, luckily, most aren't dumb enough to get caught in that situation. It's usually indoor cats who get out & younger cats who don't know better.

/Learned a lot about cats & trees when mine was stuck in a tree for almost a week.
 
2011-06-14 11:36:25 AM
They could have borrowed my paintball gun.
 
2011-06-14 11:37:46 AM
brigid_fitch: Our family cat was once stuck in a tree for days. Big old pine tree, no low branches. Every time we tried to get her, she climbed further up. OMG, it was just horrible listening to her cry. 5 days into this ordeal, my father heard that cats could sustain falls of 100 feet with little or no injury.

So he sawed the branch she was on.

Kitty fell & ran back into the house. No injuries.

/Not a recommended solution


*NEXT WEEK ON MYTHBUSTERS*

Will a cat still land on its feet at terminal velocity?
 
2011-06-14 11:38:32 AM
Galactic_Empanada: Has anyone seen a dead cat in a tree before?


They got up there themselves, they can get down.


Yeah but HOW? This right here is why I won't let my cat outdoors without supervision. She's a world champion tree CLIMBER, can run almost full speed vertical up the tree, but DOWN seems problematic to impossible owing to the way her claws are curved. I know that wild cats have to have a solution to this, but damned if I can figure out what it is beyond "fall and hope you don't break anything"
 
2011-06-14 11:41:18 AM
beer4breakfast:
Our firefighters stand around and watch while a man drowns:

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=8161285


Jeebus tapdancing Christ on a cracker. That's...that's just...I'm speechless.
 
2011-06-14 11:41:47 AM
It took eight days for someone to come up with the idea of using a 20 foot ladder and a bag of cat treats? A stranger to the cat no less? Why couldn't the family figure that much out? Derrrrrrr.
 
2011-06-14 11:41:51 AM
brigid_fitch: Our family cat was once stuck in a tree for days. Big old pine tree, no low branches. Every time we tried to get her, she climbed further up. OMG, it was just horrible listening to her cry. 5 days into this ordeal, my father heard that cats could sustain falls of 100 feet with little or no injury.

So he sawed the branch she was on.

Kitty fell & ran back into the house. No injuries.

/Not a recommended solution


I had a cat that got stuck on top of a power pole, after a few days she just jumped. Like a flying squirrel. It was the damnedest thing. Then PLOP into the grass and she took off running at about 100 miles per hour. And that was that.
 
2011-06-14 11:42:07 AM
beer4breakfast: The Jami Turman Fan Club: The problem wasn't that they didn't have ladders. The problem was, nobody in that state actually knew how to use a ladder. That's an advanced degree program in Pennsylvania.

Our firefighters stand around and watch while a man drowns:

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=8161285


From your link:
The Alameda Fire Department says budget constraints are preventing it from recertifying its firefighters in land-based water rescues. Without it, the city would be open to liability.

Don't blame your public servants; blame your town's shiatty finances.
 
2011-06-14 11:43:13 AM
Magorn: Yeah but HOW? This right here is why I won't let my cat outdoors without supervision a leash.

Even with supervision, the cat can get away. Fast little buggers. I put mine on a leash for a stroll in the back yard, but would never let them out otherwise.
 
2011-06-14 11:43:44 AM
Here's a much easier way to get a cat out of a tree:

02bfe1c.netsolhost.com

/To SCARE it, not shoot it. Geez.
 
2011-06-14 11:44:28 AM
Galactic_Empanada: Has anyone seen a dead cat in a tree before?


They got up there themselves, they can get down.


THIS.

I have never seen a cat climb into a place it could not climb out of. But quite often they will go into a place and stay there, for reasons best known to themselves. I had one under my house for five days once, mewing incessantly day and night, and would not go away.

I have never seen a dead cat in a tree, but even so the Fire Department has no obligation to rescue cats.
 
2011-06-14 11:50:48 AM
patrick767: It took eight days for someone to come up with the idea of using a 20 foot ladder and a bag of cat treats? A stranger to the cat no less? Why couldn't the family figure that much out? Derrrrrrr.

this.

owners are bad enough for letting their cat outside

they're terminally stupid if it took 8 days and a news crew to figure out "ladder, soft voice, and kitty treats" would get the scared kitty to come to you.
 
2011-06-14 11:55:29 AM
I'm glad to see someone doing something about the situation instead of just filming/commenting on it.
 
2011-06-14 12:00:09 PM
Cats can survive falls from incredible heights.

From wikipedia article:

Studies done on cats that have fallen from 2 to 32 stories, and still alive when brought to a veterinarian clinic, show that the overall survival rate is 90 percent of those treated.[1] In a study performed in 1987 it was reported that cats who fall from less than six stories, and are still alive, have greater injuries than cats who fall from higher than six stories.[2][3] It has been proposed that this might happen because cats reach terminal velocity after righting themselves (see below) at about five stories, and after this point they relax, leading to less severe injuries in cats who have fallen from six or more stories.[4] Another possible explanation for this phenomenon would be the fact that cats who die in falls are less likely to be brought to a veterinarian than injured cats, and thus many of the cats killed in falls from higher buildings are not reported in studies of the subject.[1] However, the study was specifically about the extent of injuries (among the cats who survived long enough to be brought to the veterinarian).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-rise_syndrome

/remembers old fark thread about study from years ago...can't remember what i had for b-fast
 
2011-06-14 12:02:08 PM
A ladder, balls and the will to use brute force for the greater good is all you need.

/I had the adrenaline shakes for 20 minutes after forcefully removing my cat from 25 feet up a tree.
//It looks damn high when you're grappling onehanded with rage, fear, teeth and claws
///cat was fine when we got down
////Replaced the cat in tree with in-law's dog who caused all the grief to begin with.
 
2011-06-14 12:02:35 PM
BigTuna: The Alameda Fire Department says budget constraints are preventing it from recertifying its firefighters in land-based water rescues. Without it, the city would be open to liability.

Don't blame your public servants; blame your town's shiatty finances.


Plenty of blame for bay area city councils. So much tax money rolled in during the good times that led to fat union contracts. But apparently making sure a water rescue program could continue to be at least partially funded for a city that's on an island wasn't important.

But I also blame the firefighters and police officers. Thinking highly of those professions means believing they picked that profession because ultimately they wanted to help people. In this case they worried more about their jobs than a human life. And honestly, the public uproar if someone got fired guarantees not one of them would have lost their high salary, great benefits job.
 
2011-06-14 12:22:53 PM
BigTuna: beer4breakfast: The Jami Turman Fan Club: The problem wasn't that they didn't have ladders. The problem was, nobody in that state actually knew how to use a ladder. That's an advanced degree program in Pennsylvania.

Our firefighters stand around and watch while a man drowns:

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=8161285

From your link:
The Alameda Fire Department says budget constraints are preventing it from recertifying its firefighters in land-based water rescues. Without it, the city would be open to liability.

Don't blame your public servants; blame your town's shiatty finances.



Liability and finances my ass.

Know what? I've never been certified in "pull some idiot's toddler child from certain death in traffic", and I may be "open to liability", but I'll be damned if I'm going to order pizza and wait for the kid to get crushed - which is basically what those assholes did. (new window)

Fark humanity.

It's over.

Bring on the rain of comets.
 
gfs
2011-06-14 12:27:48 PM
The owners didn't care enough to get on a ladder? The cat shouldn't go back to the idiot owners. It obviously didn't want to be near them.

But now that station can justify the "Action" part of the "action news team"

/I hate cats
 
2011-06-14 12:33:11 PM
Farker T: Liability and finances my ass.

Know what? I've never been certified in "pull some idiot's toddler child from certain death in traffic", and I may be "open to liability", but I'll be damned if I'm going to order pizza and wait for the kid to get crushed - which is basically what those assholes did. (new window)

Fark humanity.

It's over.

Bring on the rain of comets.



It's been over for years, we're just seeing the final death throes.
 
gfs
2011-06-14 12:33:50 PM
Farker T: BigTuna: beer4breakfast: The Jami Turman Fan Club: The problem wasn't that they didn't have ladders. The problem was, nobody in that state actually knew how to use a ladder. That's an advanced degree program in Pennsylvania.

Our firefighters stand around and watch while a man drowns:

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=8161285

From your link:
The Alameda Fire Department says budget constraints are preventing it from recertifying its firefighters in land-based water rescues. Without it, the city would be open to liability.

Don't blame your public servants; blame your town's shiatty finances.


Liability and finances my ass.

Know what? I've never been certified in "pull some idiot's toddler child from certain death in traffic", and I may be "open to liability", but I'll be damned if I'm going to order pizza and wait for the kid to get crushed - which is basically what those assholes did. (new window)

Fark humanity.

It's over.

Bring on the rain of comets.


The cop said if he was off duty he would have done something... So tell your boss you quit. Rip your badge off and go save a life. Then you can talk about getting your job back.
 
sp
2011-06-14 12:34:19 PM
Cats can get out of trees themselves. It sometimes becomes more problematic when well-meaning people chase them farther up the tree.
 
2011-06-14 12:41:15 PM
"Here snowball."
 
2011-06-14 12:51:13 PM
BigTuna
From your link:
The Alameda Fire Department says budget constraints are preventing it from recertifying its firefighters in land-based water rescues. Without it, the city would be open to liability.


So? They're stupid for having liability issues with it, but what the fark kind of firefighter or police officer can stand around and do nothing while someone drowns because they're worried about their jobs?

" Well, if I was off duty I would know what I would do, but I think you're asking me my on-duty response and I would have to stay within our policies and procedures because that's what's required by our department to do," Alameda Fire Div. Chief Ricci Zombeck said

Farking disgusting.
 
2011-06-14 12:55:00 PM
Cythraul: "Here snowball."

www.virtual-history.comsustainablewaters.com

/"Whatever you do, don't call the fire department!"
 
2011-06-14 01:00:05 PM
Magorn: . I know that wild cats have to have a solution to this, but damned if I can figure out what it is beyond "fall and hope you don't break anything"

Yeah, it's called "jumping".
 
2011-06-14 01:04:44 PM
Kudos to the newsman. Boo on the owners, their neighbors and relatives.

A cat away from food and water for a few days can develop hepatic lipidosis, which is lethal. It might get down or drop down, but the damage could be irreversible.

If I was too elderly, weak or unbalanced to get one of my dumbhat cats out of a tree, I'd drive to the hardware store and hire a couple of burly journaleros to climb a ladder yank the cat down.

I blame the learned helplessness like when an entire apartmentful of Section 8 watched me ( a passer by) and a couple of guys from the house next door put out a fire with a garden hose and fire extinguishers.
 
2011-06-14 01:09:20 PM
BigTuna: From your link:
The Alameda Fire Department says budget constraints are preventing it from recertifying its firefighters in land-based water rescues. Without it, the city would be open to liability.

Don't blame your public servants; blame your town's shiatty finances.



Stupid policy? Blame the lawyers. It's usually their fault.

They can either sit back and watch a man drown, or they can bend over and spread their asscheeks to let some bloodwhore parasite lawyer fark the everfarking shiat out of the them if the man they tried to save came back to shore with so much as a hiccup from gulping water. Or 'emotional distress.'

And then their finances would be even worse...
 
2011-06-14 01:14:26 PM
beer4breakfast: The Jami Turman Fan Club: The problem wasn't that they didn't have ladders. The problem was, nobody in that state actually knew how to use a ladder. That's an advanced degree program in Pennsylvania.

Our firefighters stand around and watch while a man drowns:

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=8161285


I submitted this link to Fark a while back and it got redlit. No idea why. It's horrifying.
 
2011-06-14 01:22:23 PM
Galactic_Empanada: Has anyone seen a dead cat in a tree before?


They got up there themselves, they can get down.


This, or in the words of my fireman brother-in-law "You ever see a cat skeleton in a tree?"

If people absolutely insist that the cat come down from the tree, he reaches for the high pressure hose, not the ladder...
 
2011-06-14 01:26:24 PM
datingsymbol.com.
 
2011-06-14 01:47:30 PM
gfs: Farker T: BigTuna: beer4breakfast: The Jami Turman Fan Club: The problem wasn't that they didn't have ladders. The problem was, nobody in that state actually knew how to use a ladder. That's an advanced degree program in Pennsylvania.

Our firefighters stand around and watch while a man drowns:

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=8161285

From your link:
The Alameda Fire Department says budget constraints are preventing it from recertifying its firefighters in land-based water rescues. Without it, the city would be open to liability.

Don't blame your public servants; blame your town's shiatty finances.


Liability and finances my ass.

Know what? I've never been certified in "pull some idiot's toddler child from certain death in traffic", and I may be "open to liability", but I'll be damned if I'm going to order pizza and wait for the kid to get crushed - which is basically what those assholes did. (new window)

Fark humanity.

It's over.

Bring on the rain of comets.

The cop said if he was off duty he would have done something... So tell your boss you quit. Rip your badge off and go save a life. Then you can talk about getting your job back.



Would have been a national hero. People would have lined up to hire him.
 
2011-06-14 03:02:29 PM
Galactic_Empanada: Has anyone seen a dead cat in a tree before?


They got up there themselves, they can get down.


This
 
2011-06-14 04:05:20 PM
catchow: beer4breakfast:
Our firefighters stand around and watch while a man drowns:

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=8161285

Jeebus tapdancing Christ on a cracker. That's...that's just...I'm speechless.


Unfarkingreal. Everyone should be fired. As an officer, I totally understand policy and procedure, but at the same time, letting someone die is totally contradicts your primary mission! I love the weasel answer of "I know what I would do if I was off duty but my on duty response is to work within the confines of our policy and procedures" Past that, the issue of not being trained for water rescue due to your equipment is total bs. San Antonio trains their officers to operate in water after one of their officers drowned while chasing a suspect. Bexar County (where San Antonio is) also trains their deputies for the same reason. Then of course, theres always the super idea of just taking off your damn duty belt. If the water was so shallow that a boat couldnt get in there, then someone could have walked out and brought the guy in. I hope they get sued. farking cowards.
 
2011-06-14 04:14:12 PM
Contents Under Pressure: Kudos to the newsman. Boo on the owners, their neighbors and relatives.

A cat away from food and water for a few days can develop hepatic lipidosis, which is lethal. It might get down or drop down, but the damage could be irreversible.....


We just got done nursing my beautiful little guy back from hepatic lipidosis. We have no idea why he stopped eating but thankfully we made the command decision to take him to an emergency vet rather than waiting 2 more days. He's doing great now and we make damn sure he eats every day. We have plates of dry cat food around the house but werent paying much attention to who was eating and when. Now we moved the main dish to our common area and can keep a much better eye on him.

img.photobucket.com
 
2011-06-14 04:16:19 PM
Lamune_Baba: BigTuna: From your link:
The Alameda Fire Department says budget constraints are preventing it from recertifying its firefighters in land-based water rescues. Without it, the city would be open to liability.

Don't blame your public servants; blame your town's shiatty finances.


Stupid policy? Blame the lawyers. It's usually their fault.

They can either sit back and watch a man drown, or they can bend over and spread their asscheeks to let some bloodwhore parasite lawyer fark the everfarking shiat out of the them if the man they tried to save came back to shore with so much as a hiccup from gulping water. Or 'emotional distress.'

And then their finances would be even worse...


....yeah, Im certain nobody is going to sue for failure to act after nobody did anything to help. They need to get that 20 yr old girl that swam out to recover the body and make her the farking fire chief.
 
2011-06-14 05:20:15 PM
beer4breakfast: The Jami Turman Fan Club: The problem wasn't that they didn't have ladders. The problem was, nobody in that state actually knew how to use a ladder. That's an advanced degree program in Pennsylvania.

Our firefighters stand around and watch while a man drowns:

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=8161285


Man walks out into frigid water in suicide attempt. Local authorities do not want to die, themselves, so they stay out of frigid water until they can do so safely. Unfortunately, the suicide attempt was successful because they couldn't rescue him safely.
 
2011-06-14 06:08:29 PM
LavenderWolf: beer4breakfast: The Jami Turman Fan Club: The problem wasn't that they didn't have ladders. The problem was, nobody in that state actually knew how to use a ladder. That's an advanced degree program in Pennsylvania.

Our firefighters stand around and watch while a man drowns:

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=8161285

Man walks out into frigid water in suicide attempt. Local authorities do not want to die, themselves, so they stay out of frigid water until they can do so safely. Unfortunately, the suicide attempt was successful because they couldn't rescue him safely.


A 20 yr old girl swam out and recovered the body. She didnt die. Face it, those firefighters and cops were pussies and should be in the unemployment line.
 
2011-06-14 10:41:05 PM
LavenderWolf: beer4breakfast: The Jami Turman Fan Club: The problem wasn't that they didn't have ladders. The problem was, nobody in that state actually knew how to use a ladder. That's an advanced degree program in Pennsylvania.

Our firefighters stand around and watch while a man drowns:

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=8161285

Man walks out into frigid water in suicide attempt. Local authorities do not want to die, themselves, so they stay out of frigid water until they can do so safely. Unfortunately, the suicide attempt was successful because they couldn't rescue him safely.


It was the bay area on memorial day. It's not the arctic circle.

I'm surprised this story didn't get its own greenlight, I was looking for it
 
2011-06-15 03:51:05 AM
Litterbox: LavenderWolf: beer4breakfast: The Jami Turman Fan Club: The problem wasn't that they didn't have ladders. The problem was, nobody in that state actually knew how to use a ladder. That's an advanced degree program in Pennsylvania.

Our firefighters stand around and watch while a man drowns:

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=8161285

Man walks out into frigid water in suicide attempt. Local authorities do not want to die, themselves, so they stay out of frigid water until they can do so safely. Unfortunately, the suicide attempt was successful because they couldn't rescue him safely.

A 20 yr old girl swam out and recovered the body. She didnt die. Face it, those firefighters and cops were pussies and should be in the unemployment line.


Probably easier to haul in a dead body then have some selfish ass wipe WHO WENT OUT THERE ON THEIR OWN flail around and drag you under. 150 yards out then 150 yards back with a uncontrolled individual (could have had a knife) might be a lot for a cop.

people kill themselves with guns. fire the cops for not getting the gun out of their hand in time?
 
2011-06-15 10:04:19 AM
Litterbox: Contents Under Pressure: Kudos to the newsman. Boo on the owners, their neighbors and relatives.

A cat away from food and water for a few days can develop hepatic lipidosis, which is lethal. It might get down or drop down, but the damage could be irreversible.....

We just got done nursing my beautiful little guy back from hepatic lipidosis. We have no idea why he stopped eating but thankfully we made the command decision to take him to an emergency vet rather than waiting 2 more days. He's doing great now and we make damn sure he eats every day. We have plates of dry cat food around the house but werent paying much attention to who was eating and when. Now we moved the main dish to our common area and can keep a much better eye on him.


Not to be a jerk or anything but one of my cats stopped eating and drinking so we took him to the emergency vet after a couple days. Without going into the details, he had severe tumors all over his liver and our only options were to put him down or give him a daily saline drip. So we (I) got the bags of saline, all the tubes and needles, and learned how to give poke my cat with an IV needle while holding him down for several minutes so he wouldn't squirm. It was pretty awful, but it perked him right up. He went back to his old self for another couple of months until he stopped eating and drinking again.

RIP Marco, you great big fattie.
 
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