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(AL.com)   Alabama man wants to reclaim the 40 beer kegs stolen from his small brewery after he tracks down thieves and presents their driver's licenses, tags and addresses to police. Police response, *crickets*   (blog.al.com) divider line 271
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2011-06-12 03:27:13 PM
Somebody is really stupid enough to think that cops will do something positive????

hahahahahahahahahahahaha
 
2011-06-12 03:27:55 PM
This guy will be lucky if they don't arrest him for conducting an unauthorized investigation.
 
2011-06-12 03:34:37 PM
In California you pay a deposit large enough to cover the cost of the keg. Maybe they should do that there. Would alleviate the problem.
 
2011-06-12 03:42:53 PM
Please. Cops are too power-hungry for that. They have to be the ones to tell others what to do, not the ones who are told. Even if the person telling has already done their job for them. It's a matter of principle dammit - they are in charge. And don't you ever dare forget it.
 
2011-06-12 04:02:35 PM

sponkster: In California you pay a deposit large enough to cover the cost of the keg. Maybe they should do that there. Would alleviate the problem.


And how would you collect this money from thieves who cut the fence and drove away with 40 kegs?
 
2011-06-12 04:18:09 PM

real shaman: This guy will be lucky if they don't arrest him for conducting an unauthorized investigation.


I came in to say basically this. He might have destroyed any evidence they could take to court with his roll-your-own approach. Not destroyed because the evidence no longer exists, but destroyed as in "no longer admissible".
 
2011-06-12 04:31:29 PM
Call 911 anonymously, tell them he heard gunshots coming from the area where is kegs are being kept.
 
2011-06-12 04:32:57 PM

SilentStrider: Call 911 anonymously, tell them he heard gunshots coming from the area where is kegs are being kept.


With a mass grave?
 
2011-06-12 04:33:42 PM

2wolves: SilentStrider: Call 911 anonymously, tell them he heard gunshots coming from the area where is kegs are being kept.

With a mass grave?


nah, you just want attention, not media panic.
 
2011-06-12 04:39:17 PM
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No wonder he has his own action figure.
 
2011-06-12 04:50:18 PM
Sometime early Thursday, they cut our back fence -- they actually went through three other property owners' fences to get to our fence so they wouldn't be seen from the street," Lake said.

As of Saturday, Lake had not heard if arrests had been made.

Two days? Two whole farking days? You're criticising the cops because they didn't make an arrest with two whole days to work the case, one of them on a weekend when the detectives probably aren't working? It's a property crime, the evidence is secure, the crooks aren't going anywhere, but you're critical of the cops for not dropping everything and jumping on this case?

Good on the guy for identifying the bad guys, but I doubt stolen beer kegs are the most important issue in Birmingham, Alabama right now.
 
2011-06-12 05:12:20 PM

jaylectricity: sponkster: In California you pay a deposit large enough to cover the cost of the keg. Maybe they should do that there. Would alleviate the problem.

And how would you collect this money from thieves who cut the fence and drove away with 40 kegs?


Y'see, the way deposits work is, they pay enough money to pay for the keg BEFORE they get the keg. So, the guy renting them the keg collects it. BEFORE they have the keg. And then if they don't bring it back, he still has their money. Because he took a DEPOSIT. BEFORE he gave them the keg.

Jeez.
 
2011-06-12 05:21:07 PM

CruiserTwelve: Sometime early Thursday, they cut our back fence -- they actually went through three other property owners' fences to get to our fence so they wouldn't be seen from the street," Lake said.

As of Saturday, Lake had not heard if arrests had been made.

Two days? Two whole farking days? You're criticising the cops because they didn't make an arrest with two whole days to work the case, one of them on a weekend when the detectives probably aren't working? It's a property crime, the evidence is secure, the crooks aren't going anywhere, but you're critical of the cops for not dropping everything and jumping on this case?

Good on the guy for identifying the bad guys, but I doubt stolen beer kegs are the most important issue in Birmingham, Alabama right now.


sigh.
 
2011-06-12 06:00:56 PM
The crooks must have been white.
 
2011-06-12 06:05:25 PM
The guy shoul've laid out a donut spread in front of the perp's house.
 
2011-06-12 06:05:59 PM

KAVORKA: The crooks must have been white.


Well, there are a lot of brown people on the Birmingham PD.
 
2011-06-12 06:07:12 PM

CruiserTwelve: ...You're criticising the cops because they didn't make an arrest with two whole days to work the case, one of them on a weekend when the detectives probably aren't working? It's a property crime, the evidence is secure, the crooks aren't going anywhere, but you're critical of the cops for not dropping everything and jumping on this case?

Good on the guy for identifying the bad guys, but I doubt stolen beer kegs are the most important issue in Birmingham, Alabama right now.


FTFA The company has just received all of its required approvals to start commercial production and the brewery is in the process of switching from the 10-gallon nano brew system it has used for test runs to the 480-gallon system it will use for commercial brewing and bottling.

Theft of essential property is always bad for business, but it's even more damaging for a small upstart like Avondale Brewing Co.

"Those were empty kegs we were in the process of cleaning and getting ready to fill," Lake said. "It's a lot of money to our business. They scrapped them for 450 bucks but if we were to go buy them brand new, it would cost us $120 apiece."


sponkster: In California you pay a deposit large enough to cover the cost of the keg. Maybe they should do that there. Would alleviate the problem.


see above.
/wasn't that some fine detective work, Lou?
 
2011-06-12 06:07:56 PM
The actual value of the property is trivial. So the cops won't worry too much about it.

I had a cell phone stolen, and I gave the police the guys address, phone number, birthday, the car he drove with the license plate number.

Nothing - not a priority...

/csb
 
2011-06-12 06:08:27 PM
What's new? I'm from Wisconsin and I always end up doing the police's job for them since they don't do shiat around here either... fracking losers.
 
2011-06-12 06:11:28 PM

CruiserTwelve: Sometime early Thursday, they cut our back fence -- they actually went through three other property owners' fences to get to our fence so they wouldn't be seen from the street," Lake said.

As of Saturday, Lake had not heard if arrests had been made.

Two days? Two whole farking days? You're criticising the cops because they didn't make an arrest with two whole days to work the case, one of them on a weekend when the detectives probably aren't working? It's a property crime, the evidence is secure, the crooks aren't going anywhere, but you're critical of the cops for not dropping everything and jumping on this case?

Good on the guy for identifying the bad guys, but I doubt stolen beer kegs are the most important issue in Birmingham, Alabama right now.


Damned if you do. Damned if you don't.
 
2011-06-12 06:11:31 PM

sponkster: In California you pay a deposit large enough to cover the cost of the keg. Maybe they should do that there. Would alleviate the problem.


Yeah, that's a brilliant idea.

So you can just leave the forms by a drop box, and when thieves break in to steal the kegs they can fill out all their personal information, include a cash deposit, and leave it in the drop box.

Problem solved.

Jackass.
 
2011-06-12 06:11:49 PM

LtDarkstar: What's new? I'm from Wisconsin and I always end up doing the police's job for them since they don't do shiat around here either... fracking losers.


Hey, they called me when they recovered parts of my stolen bike, told me where I could pick it up, and when I went all the way downtown (during the work day, of course, since when else would they be open), they told me I couldn't get my property for four more weeks because only "Craig" could sign the property back out to me, and he just went on a month long vacation. Something, of course, they neglected to tell me on the phone.
 
2011-06-12 06:11:49 PM

CruiserTwelve: Two days? Two whole farking days? You're criticising the cops because they didn't make an arrest with two whole days to work the case, one of them on a weekend when the detectives probably aren't working?


They don't need to "work the case"- he GAVE the cops the thieves "driver's licenses, their tag and their addresses". All the cops need to do is drive to the addresses he gave them and arrest the thieves. And take a swing by the scrap year and speak to the owner. Certainly doesn't take three days to do that.

Oh- and detectives don't work weekends? I'll keep that in mind if I ever decide to go on a crime spree- start late Friday night, and the cops won't be after me until Monday.
 
2011-06-12 06:12:27 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Y'see, the way deposits work is, they pay enough money to pay for the keg BEFORE they get the keg. So, the guy renting them the keg collects it. BEFORE they have the keg. And then if they don't bring it back, he still has their money. Because he took a DEPOSIT. BEFORE he gave them the keg.

Jeez.


I ...

Did you read the story?
 
2011-06-12 06:12:50 PM

CruiserTwelve: Sometime early Thursday, they cut our back fence -- they actually went through three other property owners' fences to get to our fence so they wouldn't be seen from the street," Lake said.

As of Saturday, Lake had not heard if arrests had been made.

Two days? Two whole farking days? You're criticising the cops because they didn't make an arrest with two whole days to work the case, one of them on a weekend when the detectives probably aren't working? It's a property crime, the evidence is secure, the crooks aren't going anywhere, but you're critical of the cops for not dropping everything and jumping on this case?

Good on the guy for identifying the bad guys, but I doubt stolen beer kegs are the most important issue in Birmingham, Alabama right now.


Actually, since this appeared in the newspaper before they were arrested, I'm betting the crooks are probably going somewhere else right about now.
 
2011-06-12 06:12:57 PM
There's a brewery in Alabama?
 
2011-06-12 06:13:03 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: jaylectricity: sponkster: In California you pay a deposit large enough to cover the cost of the keg. Maybe they should do that there. Would alleviate the problem.

And how would you collect this money from thieves who cut the fence and drove away with 40 kegs?

Y'see, the way deposits work is, they pay enough money to pay for the keg BEFORE they get the keg. So, the guy renting them the keg collects it. BEFORE they have the keg. And then if they don't bring it back, he still has their money. Because he took a DEPOSIT. BEFORE he gave them the keg.

Jeez.


Ummm...you did see the part about them being stolen from a brewery, right?

Jeez
 
2011-06-12 06:13:28 PM
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2011-06-12 06:13:46 PM

CruiserTwelve: Sometime early Thursday, they cut our back fence -- they actually went through three other property owners' fences to get to our fence so they wouldn't be seen from the street," Lake said.

As of Saturday, Lake had not heard if arrests had been made.

Two days? Two whole farking days? You're criticising the cops because they didn't make an arrest with two whole days to work the case, one of them on a weekend when the detectives probably aren't working? It's a property crime, the evidence is secure, the crooks aren't going anywhere, but you're critical of the cops for not dropping everything and jumping on this case?

Good on the guy for identifying the bad guys, but I doubt stolen beer kegs are the most important issue in Birmingham, Alabama right now.


Came for CruiserTwelve's "All Cops Are White Knights" crap. Leaving 'satisfied'.
 
2011-06-12 06:14:29 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: jaylectricity: sponkster: In California you pay a deposit large enough to cover the cost of the keg. Maybe they should do that there. Would alleviate the problem.

And how would you collect this money from thieves who cut the fence and drove away with 40 kegs?

Y'see, the way deposits work is, they pay enough money to pay for the keg BEFORE they get the keg. So, the guy renting them the keg collects it. BEFORE they have the keg. And then if they don't bring it back, he still has their money. Because he took a DEPOSIT. BEFORE he gave them the keg.

Jeez.


guess how we all know you DNRTFA?

let me give you a hint:

the kegs were not rented, they were stolen. as in taken with out permission or payment. how do you collect a deposit from a thief who is stealing your property? I am sure insurance companies would love to know your sure fire way to do that!

/you could be strollin for a trollin, but it was too simple
 
2011-06-12 06:16:05 PM

sponkster: In California you pay a deposit large enough to cover the cost of the keg. Maybe they should do that there. Would alleviate the problem.


You sound like a cop, Lou.
 
2011-06-12 06:16:40 PM
Oh, come on - you people are over-reacting. Where's the harm in a little scrumping?
 
2011-06-12 06:17:21 PM
I once had my identity stolen when in college. I pointed out to police that there was a frat house with a nearly identical address to my dorm address (I was in Kent dorm room 113, the frat was 113 Kent St). I had a friend in the frat that said they were getting a ton of magazines delivered there that had my name on them and other packages. Also, the address was listed on my credit report as a known address of mine.

Police response? Nothing. All they do is stop speeders and harass drunk kids. Actual crime committed? Crickets indeed.
 
2011-06-12 06:17:41 PM

sponkster: In California you pay a deposit large enough to cover the cost of the keg. Maybe they should do that there. Would alleviate the problem.



files.sharenator.com
In our defense, us simple southerners aren't quite as "with it" as you genius Californians apparently are.
 
2011-06-12 06:18:30 PM

CruiserTwelve: Sometime early Thursday, they cut our back fence -- they actually went through three other property owners' fences to get to our fence so they wouldn't be seen from the street," Lake said.

As of Saturday, Lake had not heard if arrests had been made.

Two days? Two whole farking days? You're criticising the cops because they didn't make an arrest with two whole days to work the case, one of them on a weekend when the detectives probably aren't working? It's a property crime, the evidence is secure, the crooks aren't going anywhere, but you're critical of the cops for not dropping everything and jumping on this case?

Good on the guy for identifying the bad guys, but I doubt stolen beer kegs are the most important issue in Birmingham, Alabama right now.


The investigation has been done for them you retarded monkey, but good job on continuing to prove youre worthlessness as a parasitic vermin.
 
2011-06-12 06:18:37 PM
To be fair, the family pets of those unarmed marijuana suspects just aren't going to shoot themselves. Cops have a tough job.
 
2011-06-12 06:18:46 PM
I'm pretty sure that everyone in Alabama drinks moonshine from stills, not beer from kegs.
 
2011-06-12 06:19:07 PM
Thursday kegs are stolen
Saturday kegs have not been recovered

ZOMG THE COPS ARE STEALING BEER KEGS AN D I SAW COPS HAVING AN ORGY ON THE BEER KEGS

0.tqn.com
 
2011-06-12 06:21:07 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: jaylectricity: sponkster: In California you pay a deposit large enough to cover the cost of the keg. Maybe they should do that there. Would alleviate the problem.

And how would you collect this money from thieves who cut the fence and drove away with 40 kegs?

Y'see, the way deposits work is, they pay enough money to pay for the keg BEFORE they get the keg. So, the guy renting them the keg collects it. BEFORE they have the keg. And then if they don't bring it back, he still has their money. Because he took a DEPOSIT. BEFORE he gave them the keg.

Jeez.


uhhm... Errrr... I see others have already chastised your ignorance. My work is done here.
 
2011-06-12 06:21:15 PM

CruiserTwelve: Sometime early Thursday, they cut our back fence -- they actually went through three other property owners' fences to get to our fence so they wouldn't be seen from the street," Lake said.

As of Saturday, Lake had not heard if arrests had been made.

Two days? Two whole farking days? You're criticising the cops because they didn't make an arrest with two whole days to work the case, one of them on a weekend when the detectives probably aren't working? It's a property crime, the evidence is secure, the crooks aren't going anywhere, but you're critical of the cops for not dropping everything and jumping on this case?

Good on the guy for identifying the bad guys, but I doubt stolen beer kegs are the most important issue in Birmingham, Alabama right now.


"We're too busy" rings fairly hollow when you remember that most peoples' interaction with the police is limited to whenever the police are out trolling for revenue via speeding tickets and misdemeanor traffic and drug offenses.

In this case the police have the names, addresses and tags of people who committed a felony. Further, the victim did the investigation. The idea that the police would have done a thorough investigation is pretty far fetched. As you say, burglary isn't very important.

The least the detective could have done was give the victim a call when he received the information and assure him that his property will be returned and give him a rough timeline. The guy needs that shiat for his business, or he wouldn't have bothered tracking down the stuff. Because, you know, burglary isn't very important.
 
2011-06-12 06:21:58 PM
I thought kegs had inserts of other alloys as a disincentive to theft, because smelting them led to "poisoned" or contaminated scrap.

No?

*raids pub*
 
2011-06-12 06:22:38 PM

jaytkay: TZOMG THE COPS ARE STEALING BEER KEGS AN D I SAW COPS HAVING AN ORGY ON THE BEER KEGS


I laughed much louder and longer than I should have at that.
 
2011-06-12 06:25:49 PM
It goes like this. If the case doesn't involve either "expected revenue" or a crime against a rich/famous person, it's not going to be investigated. The sooner all Americans understand this, the smoother things will run. Now, turn that camera off and pay your taxes biatch.
 
2011-06-12 06:28:28 PM

fredklein: All the cops need to do is drive to the addresses he gave them and arrest the thieves.


Yeah, forget independently verifying the evidence and getting warrants. All they have to do is drive up and go "hands up!"

For once in a cop thread I think I'm on the cops' side; there's a bunch of things that could be legitimately slowing them down. Two days really isn't all that long.
 
2011-06-12 06:30:34 PM

evaned: there's a bunch of things that could be legitimately slowing them down


Does apathy count as legitimate?
 
2011-06-12 06:32:38 PM
Yeah, OK, I know, I suck.

/DNRTFA
//What's it to ya, Bub?
 
2011-06-12 06:33:13 PM
The more I read this article, the more it seems faked. First, the whole keg versus still thing. Now I just noticed that none of the quotes included, "Hyuk!"

Someone is having fun at our expense.
 
2011-06-12 06:35:18 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: jaylectricity: sponkster: In California you pay a deposit large enough to cover the cost of the keg. Maybe they should do that there. Would alleviate the problem.

And how would you collect this money from thieves who cut the fence and drove away with 40 kegs?

Y'see, the way deposits work is, they pay enough money to pay for the keg BEFORE they get the keg. So, the guy renting them the keg collects it. BEFORE they have the keg. And then if they don't bring it back, he still has their money. Because he took a DEPOSIT. BEFORE he gave them the keg.

Jeez.


You seem to be misunderstanding... the reason they're called thieves is because they STOLE the kegs... they cut through the fence and nicked them in the night. They didn't come in and ask to rent them... they just made off with them. There was no transaction or conversation. They went through other people's backyards to get to the brewery's, cut the fence and stole kegs. Read the article...
 
2011-06-12 06:35:25 PM

evaned: fredklein: All the cops need to do is drive to the addresses he gave them and arrest the thieves.

Yeah, forget independently verifying the evidence and getting warrants. All they have to do is drive up and go "hands up!"

For once in a cop thread I think I'm on the cops' side; there's a bunch of things that could be legitimately slowing them down. Two days really isn't all that long.


Agreed. If all it takes is for me to tell the cops someone committed a felony and give them their address, I'd have put a number of people in jail based on my own "investigations."

Independent verification, it's a biatch.
 
2011-06-12 06:37:56 PM
All he had to do was tell the cops he found where the perps live and he smelled something which might have been marijuana smoke.

Keg stealing dudes would already be on the way to prison.
 
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