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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2011-06-11 08:15:17 AM  
Is that the standard deal for a first offense in the region? Up here the standard deal is no conviction, probation, 45 day loss of license, and some sort of pointless class. A jail sentence for a first offense means you farked up bad, far beyond just blowing over .08%.
 
2011-06-11 08:38:12 AM  
Watch your cornhole, your honor....hahahhaaa, I couldn't say it with a straight face.
 
2011-06-11 08:46:15 AM  
In VA it's 1 year loss of license, a substantial fine (3-4 figures), state run substance abuse program (which the convicted must pay for), SR-22 "dangerous driver" designation (I think it's $500/ year fee to the DMV for x years+ another excuse for insurance companies to rape the convicted), and (how much depending on the BAC) jail time. Over .15 is a mandatory 10 days, I know (not from personal experience, mind you).

We've got a regular justice/industrial complex here in ol' Virginia.

Either way, this guy's sentence seems like cake.
 
2011-06-11 09:08:26 AM  

100wmarshall:

Either way, this guy's sentence seems like cake.


it does seem a tad light.
 
2011-06-11 09:41:11 AM  

ZAZ: Is that the standard deal for a first offense in the region? Up here the standard deal is no conviction, probation, 45 day loss of license, and some sort of pointless class. A jail sentence for a first offense means you farked up bad, far beyond just blowing over .08%.


It very well may be, it varies a lot from state to state I've heard, and sometimes even per jurisdiction. There is a magistrate around here who lost a child to a drunk driver, I'm going to guess you do NOT not want to get a DUI there. Almost nobody serves jail time for a first offense, at least not here. Stay the hell out of WV though, I know a guy who got a DUI there, he had to spend the night in jail, then go back in a few weeks to serve a 24 hour sentence. Then he was banned from driving in the state for a year, and nearly a decade later and thousands of miles away, AZ forced him to take classes to get his license there. I think having it on your record is the real punishment, seems like it can haunt people.
 
2011-06-11 09:50:02 AM  

100wmarshall: In VA it's 1 year loss of license, a substantial fine (3-4 figures), state run substance abuse program (which the convicted must pay for), SR-22 "dangerous driver" designation (I think it's $500/ year fee to the DMV for x years+ another excuse for insurance companies to rape the convicted), and (how much depending on the BAC) jail time. Over .15 is a mandatory 10 days, I know (not from personal experience, mind you).

We've got a regular justice/industrial complex here in ol' Virginia.

Either way, this guy's sentence seems like cake.


You got screwed. My sister got a DUI in VA and got all of 5 days in jail, 15 hours CS and all of a $100 fine.
 
2011-06-11 09:50:24 AM  
Clearly not from Wisconsin where they give you a ticket and send you on your way.
 
2011-06-11 09:53:27 AM  
It's the "Good Ol' Boys" network. A judge lets a public official off lightly so when they get busted, the favour is expected to be returned.
 
2011-06-11 09:54:15 AM  
It really depends on where you got it. I got mine in Illinois, on a Florida license. I ended up paying 3k in fines, and Florida took away my license for a year. If I had gotten on it on a Illinois license, I would have only lost my license for 3 months. I did no jail time, but I had to attend a few rehab classes. I even managed to get it taken off my record...

While I got off relativity light, I certainly learned my lesson. When I took the rehab classes, they forced me to think about the risks I was taking, and the overall consequences of driving drunk. The worst thing that could happen isn't that you get a DUI - it's that an innocent person could die at your hands.
 
2011-06-11 09:55:03 AM  
1 day in jail means he was processed and let go right after. Some people can use the jail's revolving door...

/former C.O.
 
2011-06-11 09:58:17 AM  
more than likely just given 1 day because he already served one day in the tank. so would just be credited for time already served, no additional jail time.
 
2011-06-11 10:04:19 AM  

ZAZ: Is that the standard deal for a first offense in the region? Up here the standard deal is no conviction, probation, 45 day loss of license, and some sort of pointless class. A jail sentence for a first offense means you farked up bad, far beyond just blowing over .08%.


Yeah, that's a standard DUI sentence in Georgia for a DUI. Actually, the fine is a tad higher than average. Minimun sentence is 12 months probation, 1 day to serve, 40 hours community service, $300 fine, license suspension, alcohol evaluation+follow treatment if recommended, and attend one session of MADD's Victim Impact Panel (like an AA meeting where you sit there and someone comes in to "scare you straight" by telling you their story on how DUI has ruined their life).

Some jurisdictions may vary a bit (Rockdale County, e.g., asks for 3 days to serve on a first, while Cobb County will typically give you credit for the couple of hours you did locked up and call that "1 day") but all and all-that Judge did not appear to get any favorable treatment...
 
2011-06-11 10:07:07 AM  
If the system really cared about dangerous driving then speeding, driving while texting, driving tired etc would all be equally as punishable as DUI.

But they don't and it's not, it's about collecting revenue and in a country still in touch with its puritanical roots drinking is a convienient scape goat.
 
2011-06-11 10:07:37 AM  
Always get a lawyer.
 
2011-06-11 10:11:25 AM  
TX - 1 year probation, $1800 fine, 48 hrs community service, interlock device on car for six months, various alcohol and drunk driving classes. But I think that varies by county.
 
2011-06-11 10:14:57 AM  

tuffsnake: If the system really cared about dangerous driving then speeding, driving while texting, driving tired etc would all be equally as punishable as DUI.

But they don't and it's not, it's about collecting revenue and in a country still in touch with its puritanical roots drinking is a convienient scape goat.


The dollars that the offender spends on fines, court costs, lawyer fees, etc., would be better spent (for most offenders) on rehab. IMHO.
 
2011-06-11 10:20:15 AM  
This is how it's done, you get one of your own on the inside!
 
2011-06-11 10:21:02 AM  
He quit the next day. Losing your sweet job is pretty rough. I'll say that's fair, even harsh for a first offense.
 
2011-06-11 10:22:37 AM  

Sanic123: 100wmarshall: In VA it's 1 year loss of license, a substantial fine (3-4 figures), state run substance abuse program (which the convicted must pay for), SR-22 "dangerous driver" designation (I think it's $500/ year fee to the DMV for x years+ another excuse for insurance companies to rape the convicted), and (how much depending on the BAC) jail time. Over .15 is a mandatory 10 days, I know (not from personal experience, mind you).

We've got a regular justice/industrial complex here in ol' Virginia.

Either way, this guy's sentence seems like cake.

You got screwed. My sister got a DUI in VA and got all of 5 days in jail, 15 hours CS and all of a $100 fine.


Vagina always gets lighter sentences and/or charges.
 
2011-06-11 10:25:18 AM  

deadcrickets: Sanic123: 100wmarshall: In VA it's 1 year loss of license, a substantial fine (3-4 figures), state run substance abuse program (which the convicted must pay for), SR-22 "dangerous driver" designation (I think it's $500/ year fee to the DMV for x years+ another excuse for insurance companies to rape the convicted), and (how much depending on the BAC) jail time. Over .15 is a mandatory 10 days, I know (not from personal experience, mind you).

We've got a regular justice/industrial complex here in ol' Virginia.

Either way, this guy's sentence seems like cake.

You got screwed. My sister got a DUI in VA and got all of 5 days in jail, 15 hours CS and all of a $100 fine.

Vagina always gets lighter sentences and/or charges.


Not true! Only the pretty ones :)
 
2011-06-11 10:34:14 AM  

pete1729: He quit the next day. Losing your sweet job is pretty rough. I'll say that's fair, even harsh for a first offense.


I'd say losing his job in exchange for giving him a lighter penalty in this case is still unfair. A judge deserves the same justice as anyone else.
 
2011-06-11 10:38:09 AM  
Cool story time (warning: not really a cool story). This is a true story that was told to me yesterday and is semi-related (maybe, didn't bother to read the article).

A judge had a party for some lawyers, and after that they all went to a restaurant and drank at the bar. Well, one lawyer knew he was too drunk to drive, so he decided to walk home. Well, the cops liked to give the lawyers a hard time, so he was stopped by the police and they decided to take him to jail for a public intoxication charge. When they get him to jail, they ask him if he needs to make a phone call. He says that he needs to call his lawyer. Well, they just laugh and they take him to the cell where his lawyer was because they had arrested him earlier that night for a DUI.
 
2011-06-11 10:44:52 AM  
Eh, seems fair.
 
2011-06-11 10:50:04 AM  

2CountyFairs: Cool story time (warning: not really a cool story). This is a true story that was told to me yesterday and is semi-related (maybe, didn't bother to read the article).

A judge had a party for some lawyers, and after that they all went to a restaurant and drank at the bar. Well, one lawyer knew he was too drunk to drive, so he decided to walk home. Well, the cops liked to give the lawyers a hard time, so he was stopped by the police and they decided to take him to jail for a public intoxication charge. When they get him to jail, they ask him if he needs to make a phone call. He says that he needs to call his lawyer. Well, they just laugh and they take him to the cell where his lawyer was because they had arrested him earlier that night for a DUI.


It sounds completely and utterly made up.

The one people cops *don't* want to screw with are lawyers and judges. Besides, how exactly would the cop know that the guy walking down the street who appears to have been drinking is a lawyer? And upon taking him to jail, how could they possibly know that they'd also arrested this lawyer's lawyer? You mean, it just happened that his lawyer was also out and about that night, also drinking alcohol, and even though he is a lawyer, he decided to drive drunk. And get caught. And taken to the same jail. And the cops knew his business relationship with the first lawyer.

Sounds fishy.
 
2011-06-11 10:50:33 AM  

pete1729: He quit the next day. Losing your sweet job is pretty rough. I'll say that's fair, even harsh for a first offense.


I don't believe he should have quit the post. I've been of the opinion that ALL prosecutors and judges should spend at least three nights in the local jail to give them an idea of what it's really like BEFORE they take their position. That is not to say that they should break the law (which everyone does at least ten times a day according to studies).
 
2011-06-11 10:50:41 AM  
SHOCKING NEWS BLAST!!!! MAN GETS STANDARD PUNISHMENT FOR CRIME!!!!!

/Did you want some sort of outrages subby? Go take a nap, man.
 
2011-06-11 10:53:42 AM  
And I get six months in jail for a 1st DUI.

Huh.
 
2011-06-11 10:56:10 AM  

psychotic_calm: When I took the rehab classes, they forced me to think about the risks I was taking, and the overall consequences of driving drunk. The worst thing that could happen isn't that you get a DUI - it's that an innocent person could die at your hands.


THIS.

But for me, it was the time in jail that really made me think about what I had done.

Still the harshest sentence anyone has ever heard of for a 1st DUI.
 
2011-06-11 11:00:47 AM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: 2CountyFairs: Cool story time (warning: not really a cool story). This is a true story that was told to me yesterday and is semi-related (maybe, didn't bother to read the article).

A judge had a party for some lawyers, and after that they all went to a restaurant and drank at the bar. Well, one lawyer knew he was too drunk to drive, so he decided to walk home. Well, the cops liked to give the lawyers a hard time, so he was stopped by the police and they decided to take him to jail for a public intoxication charge. When they get him to jail, they ask him if he needs to make a phone call. He says that he needs to call his lawyer. Well, they just laugh and they take him to the cell where his lawyer was because they had arrested him earlier that night for a DUI.

It sounds completely and utterly made up.

The one people cops *don't* want to screw with are lawyers and judges. Besides, how exactly would the cop know that the guy walking down the street who appears to have been drinking is a lawyer? And upon taking him to jail, how could they possibly know that they'd also arrested this lawyer's lawyer? You mean, it just happened that his lawyer was also out and about that night, also drinking alcohol, and even though he is a lawyer, he decided to drive drunk. And get caught. And taken to the same jail. And the cops knew his business relationship with the first lawyer.

Sounds fishy.


Possibly. The story came from my filter rep at work. He grew up with both lawyers involved, supposedly. Also, this isn't a big city story. It's a small town story, and these things happen. I didn't exactly ask for evidence, and I forgot the names he used, or I would see if the arrests could be found online.
 
2011-06-11 11:15:47 AM  

2CountyFairs: Fark_Guy_Rob: 2CountyFairs: Cool story time (warning: not really a cool story). This is a true story that was told to me yesterday and is semi-related (maybe, didn't bother to read the article).

A judge had a party for some lawyers, and after that they all went to a restaurant and drank at the bar. Well, one lawyer knew he was too drunk to drive, so he decided to walk home. Well, the cops liked to give the lawyers a hard time, so he was stopped by the police and they decided to take him to jail for a public intoxication charge. When they get him to jail, they ask him if he needs to make a phone call. He says that he needs to call his lawyer. Well, they just laugh and they take him to the cell where his lawyer was because they had arrested him earlier that night for a DUI.

It sounds completely and utterly made up.

The one people cops *don't* want to screw with are lawyers and judges. Besides, how exactly would the cop know that the guy walking down the street who appears to have been drinking is a lawyer? And upon taking him to jail, how could they possibly know that they'd also arrested this lawyer's lawyer? You mean, it just happened that his lawyer was also out and about that night, also drinking alcohol, and even though he is a lawyer, he decided to drive drunk. And get caught. And taken to the same jail. And the cops knew his business relationship with the first lawyer.

Sounds fishy.

Possibly. The story came from my filter rep at work. He grew up with both lawyers involved, supposedly. Also, this isn't a big city story. It's a small town story, and these things happen. I didn't exactly ask for evidence, and I forgot the names he used, or I would see if the arrests could be found online.


You know what, I'm going to go ahead an apologize. I jumped the gun.

I grew up in the suburbs of Chicago and migrated to downtown Chicago as I got older. All of my friends live in or around Chicago. My friend who is a lawyer works in downtown Chicago. When I heard the story, I pictured it happening in Chicago.

I spent a week or so in Keokuk Iowa and Hamilton Illinois (very small places) and I'm sure it could happen there.

My bad.
 
2011-06-11 11:16:09 AM  

BravadoGT: deadcrickets: Sanic123: 100wmarshall: In VA it's 1 year loss of license, a substantial fine (3-4 figures), state run substance abuse program (which the convicted must pay for), SR-22 "dangerous driver" designation (I think it's $500/ year fee to the DMV for x years+ another excuse for insurance companies to rape the convicted), and (how much depending on the BAC) jail time. Over .15 is a mandatory 10 days, I know (not from personal experience, mind you).

We've got a regular justice/industrial complex here in ol' Virginia.

Either way, this guy's sentence seems like cake.

You got screwed. My sister got a DUI in VA and got all of 5 days in jail, 15 hours CS and all of a $100 fine.

Vagina always gets lighter sentences and/or charges.

Not true! Only the pretty ones :)


True, the Blue Waffles always get hammered
 
2011-06-11 11:22:06 AM  
what's all this about rehab? I mean if you are on your 2nd or 3rd, I can see that.
 
2011-06-11 11:31:32 AM  

riverwalk barfly: TX - 1 year probation, $1800 fine, 48 hrs community service, interlock device on car for six months, various alcohol and drunk driving classes. But I think that varies by county.


Needs to be way stiffer. Of course, when our DA is a well known drunk, dont expect tough DWI laws. I do, however, approve of the "no refusal" stance on BAC if you get pulled over. I see way too many drunks with 2...3...4... or more DWI convictions and no real punishment until they injure or kill someone.

/Bexar County, hells yeah...
 
2011-06-11 11:33:17 AM  
That is a pretty standard 1st time DUI punishment.
 
2011-06-11 11:36:47 AM  
Don't drive drunk and put others at risk. What's so hard?

Got mine in 1994, fulifilled all conditions of probation early, never did it again. Most costly thing: Had my dog with me. They took her to the shelter, I had to bail her out the next day after hundreds of dollars in tests to make sure she didn't have rabies, was vaccinated, etc.

Dumbest thing I ever did was that day.
 
2011-06-11 11:37:41 AM  
I remember when the PD would give you a ride home. You know, when it was less populated and not such a money making event.

I"ve chatted with retired P.O.'s and some never arrested anyone. One retiree was upset that he had to arrest a drunk because he'd hit three cars trying to get out of his parking spot in the center of town. Demolished the cars I guess. Everyone saw it, "I just couldn't get around it, poor bastard"

Welcome to 1970's small town New England - aaalllll gone
 
2011-06-11 11:57:49 AM  
Or as we call it here in NM, "Business as usual."
 
2011-06-11 11:59:48 AM  

deadcrickets: pete1729: He quit the next day. Losing your sweet job is pretty rough. I'll say that's fair, even harsh for a first offense.

I don't believe he should have quit the post. I've been of the opinion that ALL prosecutors and judges should spend at least three nights in the local jail to give them an idea of what it's really like BEFORE they take their position. That is not to say that they should break the law (which everyone does at least ten times a day according to studies).


You make an interesting point. How that balances with the violation of public trust would make for an excellent flame war.
 
2011-06-11 12:00:42 PM  

Litterbox: riverwalk barfly: TX - 1 year probation, $1800 fine, 48 hrs community service, interlock device on car for six months, various alcohol and drunk driving classes. But I think that varies by county.

Needs to be way stiffer. Of course, when our DA is a well known drunk, dont expect tough DWI laws. I do, however, approve of the "no refusal" stance on BAC if you get pulled over. I see way too many drunks with 2...3...4... or more DWI convictions and no real punishment until they injure or kill someone.

/Bexar County, hells yeah...

B

I don't know if stiffer penalties is the answer, but something is broken in Bexar county - way too many drunks on the road. It's scary to be on the road at 2:00 a.m. - any day of the week. And you are correct, there are too many people driving with multiple DWIs - with that said, basically the punishment for DWI is to deplete your bank account, there really is no effort to educate or rehab offenders.
 
2011-06-11 12:06:51 PM  
Bah... Lite weight stuff.
Someone should investigate the Signal Mountain circuit court in Tn/Ga

One judge drunk & driving
One homeless man walking on the side of the road.
Judge Hits & kills Man.
Local Ringgold Sheriff Phil Summers covers it up.
Judge still on bench!

#WINNING
 
2011-06-11 12:08:22 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: 2CountyFairs: Fark_Guy_Rob: 2CountyFairs: Cool story time (warning: not really a cool story). This is a true story that was told to me yesterday and is semi-related (maybe, didn't bother to read the article).

A judge had a party for some lawyers, and after that they all went to a restaurant and drank at the bar. Well, one lawyer knew he was too drunk to drive, so he decided to walk home. Well, the cops liked to give the lawyers a hard time, so he was stopped by the police and they decided to take him to jail for a public intoxication charge. When they get him to jail, they ask him if he needs to make a phone call. He says that he needs to call his lawyer. Well, they just laugh and they take him to the cell where his lawyer was because they had arrested him earlier that night for a DUI.

It sounds completely and utterly made up.

The one people cops *don't* want to screw with are lawyers and judges. Besides, how exactly would the cop know that the guy walking down the street who appears to have been drinking is a lawyer? And upon taking him to jail, how could they possibly know that they'd also arrested this lawyer's lawyer? You mean, it just happened that his lawyer was also out and about that night, also drinking alcohol, and even though he is a lawyer, he decided to drive drunk. And get caught. And taken to the same jail. And the cops knew his business relationship with the first lawyer.

Sounds fishy.

Possibly. The story came from my filter rep at work. He grew up with both lawyers involved, supposedly. Also, this isn't a big city story. It's a small town story, and these things happen. I didn't exactly ask for evidence, and I forgot the names he used, or I would see if the arrests could be found online.

You know what, I'm going to go ahead an apologize. I jumped the gun.

I grew up in the suburbs of Chicago and migrated to downtown Chicago as I got older. All of my friends live in or around Chicago. My friend who is a lawyer works in downtown Chicago. When I heard the story, I pictured it happening in Chicago.

I spent a week or so in Keokuk Iowa and Hamilton Illinois (very small places) and I'm sure it could happen there.

My bad.


Not a problem. It's like any story on the internet...[citation needed].
 
2011-06-11 12:28:03 PM  

Grables'Daughter: And I get six months in jail for a 1st DUI.

Huh.


Serisouly, how farked up were you? That's farking insane.
 
2011-06-11 12:30:23 PM  

pete1729: deadcrickets: pete1729: He quit the next day. Losing your sweet job is pretty rough. I'll say that's fair, even harsh for a first offense.

I don't believe he should have quit the post. I've been of the opinion that ALL prosecutors and judges should spend at least three nights in the local jail to give them an idea of what it's really like BEFORE they take their position. That is not to say that they should break the law (which everyone does at least ten times a day according to studies).

You make an interesting point. How that balances with the violation of public trust would make for an excellent flame war.


Violation of public trust how? They are already violating with all the corruption and the growing number of innocents being found in prison. Not to mention the judges making money off of people going to jail and the police doing the same. If they had a better idea of what it's like to be separated from friends and family they'd be more likely to pursue sensible solutions.

Prison should be reserved for only the most heinous of crimes. Everything else can be handled by fines. Libertarians like me believe there needs to be a drastic reduction in the number of laws on the books and that the Federal government needs to get out of that area except for cases of treason or spying as originally defined for them by the Constitution.
 
2011-06-11 12:32:36 PM  

100wmarshall: In VA it's 1 year loss of license, a substantial fine (3-4 figures), state run substance abuse program (which the convicted must pay for), SR-22 "dangerous driver" designation (I think it's $500/ year fee to the DMV for x years+ another excuse for insurance companies to rape the convicted), and (how much depending on the BAC) jail time. Over .15 is a mandatory 10 days, I know (not from personal experience, mind you).

We've got a regular justice/industrial complex here in ol' Virginia.

Either way, this guy's sentence seems like cake.


You've never actually gotten a DUI in VA I take it? They work all kinds of nonsense out, especially for a first offense. Even the mandatory jail time can be suspended, moved to "home confinement" or done on 10 consecutive weekends so you only have to go to jail on Saturday night.

I was arrested for one years ago but they let me plead it down to reckless because I hadn't ever had so much as a parking ticket in all my years of driving. Thank God, a DUI really would have messed up my security clearance since the government frowns on convictions for people who work with nuclear weapons.
 
2011-06-11 12:41:36 PM  
I think what people are missing here is what happens if a person fails to fullfill said responsibilties for getting a DUI today. Even that varies from state to state. However, if you happen to be a knucklehead, no matter how legitimate the excuse, getting anal raped over a weekend stay in jail, if that were your only punishment, would probably be preferred. You think the IRS is bad on back taxes, eh? What's worse is if you fullfill your responsibilties; but due to incompetent beaurocrats, who were probably given vibrators by their special ed teachers, you get screwed over anyway. Hey, if the thread is about what things have happened, or could happen in a worse case scenario, but do not happen very often, there you go.

The only solace I took from this story is that, at least the judge resigned. He still works for the state/county though, so watch out for the special breeze in the seat of your pants.
 
2011-06-11 12:54:47 PM  
Sober as a judge? I think not!
 
2011-06-11 01:01:14 PM  
I got a dui. Roughly $4,000 in fees and fines, 6 months probation, one month of suspended license and 5 months of restricted license. Only about 14 hours in jail and no community service, though sometimes it's an option in lieu of some of the fines. This was a first offense. Punishment is worse for repeat offenders obviously. Also, this was in Michigan where you cannot get dui's expunged. One thing I learned is dui laws vary a lot state by state.

/not complaining, was my own damn fault
 
2011-06-11 01:30:17 PM  

riverwalk barfly: Litterbox: riverwalk barfly: TX - 1 year probation, $1800 fine, 48 hrs community service, interlock device on car for six months, various alcohol and drunk driving classes. But I think that varies by county.

Needs to be way stiffer. Of course, when our DA is a well known drunk, dont expect tough DWI laws. I do, however, approve of the "no refusal" stance on BAC if you get pulled over. I see way too many drunks with 2...3...4... or more DWI convictions and no real punishment until they injure or kill someone.

/Bexar County, hells yeah...B

I don't know if stiffer penalties is the answer, but something is broken in Bexar county - way too many drunks on the road. It's scary to be on the road at 2:00 a.m. - any day of the week. And you are correct, there are too many people driving with multiple DWIs - with that said, basically the punishment for DWI is to deplete your bank account, there really is no effort to educate or rehab offenders.


I have to agree with this. Around here the typical punishment for the first DUI is a class, the special/expensive insurance, a bunch of $$, and you lose your license for 30 days and are on probation after that. This is fine with me. However, the punishments go on like this until you have your 5th DUI and then you get jail time.

I can understand making the mistake once, maybe twice (not really), but at three you probably have a substance abuse problem. Fining these people and taking their license isn't helping- they usually don't have a license at this time. They need help, it is sad. On the other hand I guess it is hard/impossible to make someone get help or come to terms with the fact they have a problem. Maybe a few therapy sessions or something would help, but I'm sure that is crazy expensive and since most people don't think that alcoholism isn't any sort of disease, they don't want to pay for someone's treatment.
 
2011-06-11 01:34:30 PM  
No wonder Georgia is hemmorhaging money.

There needs to be an annual administrative fee of $3000 for just finding the guy's license after the arrest, plus a special monitor fee of $100-300 month and a "cleaning corruption in state government tax" in addition to the fines and court costs and special classes.

Georgia will never catch up with Texas or Vagina otherwise.
 
2011-06-11 01:40:33 PM  
Even though I feel there has to be a better way to deal with DUI problems than we currently have, I am feeling whimsical today. So, I had to post one more thing...Still looking for the Judge Dredd reference.

/This is your third offence, how do you plead? I knew you'd say that
 
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