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2011-06-10 02:19:46 AM  
Screw potheads. If weed could be proven to be an effective treatment, then the active chemicals would be isolated and perfected.

Stoners just want an excuse to be stoners. They are a waste of air.

Employers should be able to drug test, and we should have drug tests in place for anyone on unemployment.

DON'T. DO. DRUGS.
 
2011-06-10 02:21:19 AM  

hitchking: username101: I support it for all employers. I should be allowed to not hire someone based on how they act, including activities that they do outside of work. If you don't like it, don't work for me. Why would you want to work for a dick like me anyway? That said, any employer that would willingly cut a huge portion of their workforce for activities that the person does outside of work is both an asshole and an idiot.

Are you a business owner? Because I can totally understand why many business owners would want to be able to fire people for any damn reason they please. But why the hell do people who work for a living support these measures?

Freedom of contract is an important value. So is privacy.There are about a million things that you cannot legally promise to do in a binding contract. The courts have prevented these from being enforceable primarily for policy reasons. It's not illegitimate to favour freedom of contract dramatically more than privacy. But I just don't understand why people do.


I don't favor freedom of contract more than freedom of privacy. I value them both essentially the same. If you don't like the conditions of your hiring, then search for a job elsewhere, at a business that doesn't treat their employers like cattle. I know that I wouldn't want to work at Meijer or the like, as their employers are forced-union workers and also treated comparatively shiatty to other retail stores.

I understand that some/many things aren't allowed to be put in contracts (some of which I agree with completely, or to an extent, and some that are pretty asinine), but I don't think that this should be one of them. I disagree vehomentely with the decision of the employer in TFA, but I also don't think they did anything *illegal,* (or "should-be-illegal") only something very immoral. Tell me the name of this company, and I'll be sure to never give any money in to it while they have policies like these. Capitalism doesn't work if consumers are too lazy to stand up for other consumers/workers. Whoops, I'm starting to get off-topic.

I don't support businesses using shiatty measures, but I do support them having the RIGHT to do so. I support the right for two people to come to an agreement, a contract for one hiring the other for work, that, save for some extreme examples, is fairly unrestricted and legally binding, even if it includes stupid drug testing.

To put it another way, I support legalizing prostitution and also for the right of brothel-owners to have mandatory STD testing for prostitutes. It's a huge invasion of privacy, morally-speaking, but should be legally allowed. If a worker doesn't like it, she's free to go free-lance or look for another employer.
 
2011-06-10 02:22:13 AM  
I'm so high right now. lol
 
2011-06-10 02:22:22 AM  

loudboy: Screw potheads. If weed could be proven to be an effective treatment, then the active chemicals would be isolated and perfected.

Stoners just want an excuse to be stoners. They are a waste of air.

Employers should be able to drug test, and we should have drug tests in place for anyone on unemployment.

DON'T. DO. DRUGS.


I hope you've never used caffeine or alcohol or tobacco.
It'd be a shame if you were a raging hypocrite.
 
2011-06-10 02:25:10 AM  

Barbigazi: Washington is an "at-will" state. They can fire your if they don't like your socks.


Yeah, every employer I've ever worked for had me sign a sheet about the at will employment deal we have going on. They can fire me for any or no reason. I can quit for any or no reason. This ruling doesn't surprise me in the slightest.
 
2011-06-10 02:25:51 AM  
Hawaii too - a friend's employers just instated a drug testing policy, told him he should show his medical card... And then when he did, fired him anyway.

Given that he was one of the most qualified people they had, I think it took less time for him to find a new job somewhere better than it took for them to realize they were idiots. :)
 
2011-06-10 02:30:19 AM  

m2313: loudboy: Screw potheads. If weed could be proven to be an effective treatment, then the active chemicals would be isolated and perfected.

Stoners just want an excuse to be stoners. They are a waste of air.

Employers should be able to drug test, and we should have drug tests in place for anyone on unemployment.

DON'T. DO. DRUGS.

I hope you've never used caffeine or alcohol or tobacco.
It'd be a shame if you were a raging hypocrite.


Umm, I don't think that is what he is saying. If the chemicals in weed are so effective then just take HTC, what do mean you wouldn't get high then.

If you just want caffeine, you take an energy shot.
If you just want nicotine, you chew nicorite.
If you just want alcohol, you drink everclear.

No one is saying these are medications, but they seem to offer a pure alternative. if your not smoking weed to get high why not just consume the straight chemicals.
 
2011-06-10 02:31:35 AM  

hitchking: Are you a business owner? Because I can totally understand why many business owners would want to be able to fire people for any damn reason they please. But why the hell do people who work for a living support these measures?


I work for a small business that, according to the employee handbook, can search anything at any time, including:

* My bodily fluids including urine, blood and hair
* My wallet/purse/European Man Bag
* My pockets, clothing, anus, etc.
* My vehicle parked in the parking lot
* My desk, drawers and surrounding area

The company has these rights, but if they chose to search me in any way, I'd leave the premises without cooperating. Maybe they could get a court order, but good luck with that.

/I'm not irreplaceable, but I'd recover long before the company did
 
2011-06-10 02:31:43 AM  

m2313: loudboy: Screw potheads. If weed could be proven to be an effective treatment, then the active chemicals would be isolated and perfected.

Stoners just want an excuse to be stoners. They are a waste of air.

Employers should be able to drug test, and we should have drug tests in place for anyone on unemployment.

DON'T. DO. DRUGS.

I hope you've never used caffeine or alcohol or tobacco.
It'd be a shame if you were a raging hypocrite.


Oh don't be a knit-picking sap. I suppose you don't want me using my own brain chemistry either?

(Though I actually don't drink coffee because I don't like it, I don't smoke because that shiat will kill you, and I rarely drink because it is expensive, makes you fat, and I've got better things to do with my time. No real moral reasoning behind it)

I think we all know what is meant by drugs. In this usage, drugs are chemicals you abuse. Of course alcohol is a dug if abused. But employers fire alcoholics. Employers fire people who abuse prescription drugs too.

Stoners are drains on the workplace and they disgust me. Just because it's effects are more subtle than meth doesn't mean it should be tolerated.
 
2011-06-10 02:31:50 AM  
Nitpick: There is no such thing as "legal medical marijuana". It's illegal at the federal level, even in states that allow medical pot.

/supports legalizing it completely
 
2011-06-10 02:32:13 AM  

Boloxor the Insipid: Barbigazi has it right. THIS IS A NON STORY
Washington state is 'at will' employment which means they can fire you for any reason they want. Marijuana laws are completely irrelevant.


Not entirely. California is "at will" as well, but if an employee asserts their rights under state or federal law (proper payment, adequate working conditions, no unwanted butt stuff, etc.) they are harder to fire - their assertion of rights against the employer creates a rebuttable presumption of retaliation on the part of the employer, who is then, basically, guilty of illegal firing until they prove themselves innocent.

Unfortunately for the worker in this commie paradise under the sun, it's all civil stuff, and state regulatory agencies have soft, tiny teeth and even softer, tinier balls, so those protections don't mean much.

In San Francisco random drug tests for non-safety reasons are illegal. Good thing, too, otherwise our unemployment would be around 60 %.

/it's not fog
 
2011-06-10 02:32:51 AM  

Used Cars By Wally: hitchking: Are you a business owner? Because I can totally understand why many business owners would want to be able to fire people for any damn reason they please. But why the hell do people who work for a living support these measures?

I work for a small business that, according to the employee handbook, can search anything at any time, including:

* My bodily fluids including urine, blood and hair
* My wallet/purse/European Man Bag
* My pockets, clothing, anus, etc.
* My vehicle parked in the parking lot
* My desk, drawers and surrounding area

The company has these rights, but if they chose to search me in any way, I'd leave the premises without cooperating. Maybe they could get a court order, but good luck with that.

/I'm not irreplaceable, but I'd recover long before the company did


I'm sure most Taco Bell night shift managers think like this.
 
2011-06-10 02:36:24 AM  
It's interesting how different companies (perhaps just managers) react to drug testing. A mechanic friend of mine had to take a drug test to get hired at the transportation authority. After failing he was called in and told that is he abstained for... can't recall, two weeks or a month, and retested clean, they would hire him. He told them there's no point because he would fail that test too. They hired him anyways.

I guess it's an easy superficial screening process but sometimes experience and personality wins out.
 
2011-06-10 02:37:59 AM  

loudboy: I think we all know what is meant by drugs. In this usage, drugs are chemicals you abuse. Of course alcohol is a dug if abused. But employers fire alcoholics. Employers fire people who abuse prescription drugs too.


But "abuse" is a subjective bullshiat term in your context.
When you smoke weed to get high, you are not "abusing" it.
When you drink or smoke for fun, short of going out driving or blowing your smoke into someone else's face, you are not abusing it.
Weed isn't addictive (physically anyway). It's less addictive than caffeine, alcohol or tobacco, and has none of the really negative health effects that they all do.
I agree that we should stop with the "medicinal" BS though, it should be legal for recreational use.
 
2011-06-10 02:39:22 AM  
If she had been prescribed Marinol, an FDA approved drug, she would not have a problem with her employer.

If anything, she should sue her doctor for recommending smoking an illegal drug.
 
2011-06-10 02:39:55 AM  

cyclebiff: Used Cars By Wally: hitchking: Are you a business owner? Because I can totally understand why many business owners would want to be able to fire people for any damn reason they please. But why the hell do people who work for a living support these measures?

I work for a small business that, according to the employee handbook, can search anything at any time, including:

* My bodily fluids including urine, blood and hair
* My wallet/purse/European Man Bag
* My pockets, clothing, anus, etc.
* My vehicle parked in the parking lot
* My desk, drawers and surrounding area

The company has these rights, but if they chose to search me in any way, I'd leave the premises without cooperating. Maybe they could get a court order, but good luck with that.

/I'm not irreplaceable, but I'd recover long before the company did

I'm sure most Taco Bell night shift managers think like this.


I used to think it was pure blow-hardism too. Then I watched the computer quit from one of our vendors. Yada yada, everybody canceled our contracts and the owner's apparently working on his bankruptcy.
 
2011-06-10 02:40:25 AM  

mopar1956: No one is saying these are medications, but they seem to offer a pure alternative. if your not smoking weed to get high why not just consume the straight chemicals.


I used to think the same, but research is showing that a lot of the cannabinoids other than THC play a role in pain relief as well. I'm sure after more research they could make a synthetic aerosol mix that would almost be spot on, but that would likely get them high too.
 
2011-06-10 02:40:25 AM  
Medical marijuana users can be fired, high court rules


Farkin hypocrites!
 
2011-06-10 02:40:35 AM  

loudboy: Screw potheads. If weed could be proven to be an effective treatment, then the active chemicals would be isolated and perfected.

Stoners just want an excuse to be stoners. They are a waste of air.

Employers should be able to drug test, and we should have drug tests in place for anyone on unemployment.

DON'T. DO. DRUGS.


Hm, well, it's too bad that there isn't a huge body of research and some pretty breathtaking advancements in doing just that in the past few years.

Oh wait. (new window)

Scientists isolate chemical to allow painkilling weed without the high (new window)
 
2011-06-10 02:41:05 AM  

Barbigazi: Washington is an "at-will" state. They can fire your if they don't like your socks.


Actually, if it's "at will" they don't need to state a reason at all. In fact, it is wise not to state a reason; it's harder for somebody to sue for discrimination of one sort or another.
 
2011-06-10 02:42:48 AM  

Used Cars By Wally: cyclebiff: Used Cars By Wally: hitchking: Are you a business owner? Because I can totally understand why many business owners would want to be able to fire people for any damn reason they please. But why the hell do people who work for a living support these measures?

I work for a small business that, according to the employee handbook, can search anything at any time, including:

* My bodily fluids including urine, blood and hair
* My wallet/purse/European Man Bag
* My pockets, clothing, anus, etc.
* My vehicle parked in the parking lot
* My desk, drawers and surrounding area

The company has these rights, but if they chose to search me in any way, I'd leave the premises without cooperating. Maybe they could get a court order, but good luck with that.

/I'm not irreplaceable, but I'd recover long before the company did

I'm sure most Taco Bell night shift managers think like this.

I used to think it was pure blow-hardism too. Then I watched the computer quit from one of our vendors. Yada yada, everybody canceled our contracts and the owner's apparently working on his bankruptcy.


I meant to say the computer guy quit, but I make mistakes sometimes. Woopsie.
 
2011-06-10 02:43:21 AM  

m2313: loudboy: I think we all know what is meant by drugs. In this usage, drugs are chemicals you abuse. Of course alcohol is a dug if abused. But employers fire alcoholics. Employers fire people who abuse prescription drugs too.

But "abuse" is a subjective bullshiat term in your context.
When you smoke weed to get high, you are not "abusing" it.
When you drink or smoke for fun, short of going out driving or blowing your smoke into someone else's face, you are not abusing it.
Weed isn't addictive (physically anyway). It's less addictive than caffeine, alcohol or tobacco, and has none of the really negative health effects that they all do.
I agree that we should stop with the "medicinal" BS though, it should be legal for recreational use.


Pot is addictive in a mental way. Pot users spiral down into this lackadaisical lifestyle of little substance. They become useless. The pot culture promotes that. Pot-heads in the pot culture are useless pieces of shiat.
 
2011-06-10 02:45:31 AM  
These guy's have medical marijuana cards. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1111833/

Maybe this is why employers are a bit shy of employees who say "the doctor prescribed it".
 
2011-06-10 02:47:03 AM  
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1111833/Link (new window)
 
2011-06-10 02:50:14 AM  

loudboy: m2313: loudboy: I think we all know what is meant by drugs. In this usage, drugs are chemicals you abuse. Of course alcohol is a dug if abused. But employers fire alcoholics. Employers fire people who abuse prescription drugs too.

But "abuse" is a subjective bullshiat term in your context.
When you smoke weed to get high, you are not "abusing" it.
When you drink or smoke for fun, short of going out driving or blowing your smoke into someone else's face, you are not abusing it.
Weed isn't addictive (physically anyway). It's less addictive than caffeine, alcohol or tobacco, and has none of the really negative health effects that they all do.
I agree that we should stop with the "medicinal" BS though, it should be legal for recreational use.

Pot is addictive in a mental way. Pot users spiral down into this lackadaisical lifestyle of little substance. They become useless. The pot culture promotes that. Pot-heads in the pot culture are useless pieces of shiat.


So do drinkers, smokers, video gamers, gamblers, Church-goers, rock-climbers, people-that-like-to-watch-movies-in-their-spare-time, and the Irish. Your point?

/You should separate pot users from pot abusers
//Or admit that you're a subjective hypocrite
 
2011-06-10 02:51:18 AM  

hillbillypharmacist: It's different for an employer, simple as that.

Would you like it if truck drivers could take Oxycontin all day, even if it was a valid prescription?


I don't know. I take morphine every single day and have been for 4 years or so now. You can't tell that I have taken it and quite honestly neither can I. It deals with the pain, but any side effects like a high just aren't there. Never were for me, but almost every person who takes pain killers for extend periods becomes so used to them that imparment isn't a problem.

/would love to use medical mj, but Florida would rather the doctors give me morphine
 
2011-06-10 02:52:05 AM  

m2313: I agree that we should stop with the "medicinal" BS though, it should be legal for recreational use.


Agreed. Tax it, and age-restrict its purchase...but make it legal. Treat it just like alcohol and tobacco, in other words.

Most employers don't care at all if you drink at home, as long as you don't come to work drunk. The same should be true of marijuana.

loudboy: Stoners are drains on the workplace and they disgust me. Just because it's effects are more subtle than meth doesn't mean it should be tolerated.


I used to have a roommate who would smoke almost every day (I never smoked any myself, but I became quite familiar with what it smells like). That's about as "stoner" as you can get, but he was FAR from being the burnout that people stereotype stoners as.
 
2011-06-10 02:53:15 AM  

Used Cars By Wally: Used Cars By Wally: cyclebiff: Used Cars By Wally: hitchking: Are you a business owner? Because I can totally understand why many business owners would want to be able to fire people for any damn reason they please. But why the hell do people who work for a living support these measures?

I work for a small business that, according to the employee handbook, can search anything at any time, including:

* My bodily fluids including urine, blood and hair
* My wallet/purse/European Man Bag
* My pockets, clothing, anus, etc.
* My vehicle parked in the parking lot
* My desk, drawers and surrounding area

The company has these rights, but if they chose to search me in any way, I'd leave the premises without cooperating. Maybe they could get a court order, but good luck with that.

/I'm not irreplaceable, but I'd recover long before the company did

I'm sure most Taco Bell night shift managers think like this.

I used to think it was pure blow-hardism too. Then I watched the computer quit from one of our vendors. Yada yada, everybody canceled our contracts and the owner's apparently working on his bankruptcy.

I meant to say the computer guy quit, but I make mistakes sometimes. Woopsie.


I must admit that I don't know much about business relationships. Could you elaborate on what a vender is, how one of their workers quitting affected your business, and why everyone cancelled your contracts for it?

I'm not questioning the validity at all, but I don't really know much about that part of the working world.
 
2011-06-10 02:54:24 AM  

m2313: I agree that we should stop with the "medicinal" BS though, it should be legal for recreational use.


I half a agree with you. I think we should be able to smoke the it for any reason we see fit, be it medical or to simply get high.
 
2011-06-10 02:58:41 AM  
US in 'fire anyone on the spot for any reason' shocker.

No wonder you work 70 hours a week and with a constant feeling of fear and dread.

Don't worry though - India and China will soon be doing all your clever jobs
 
2011-06-10 03:00:32 AM  

hitchking: Are you a business owner? Because I can totally understand why many business owners would want to be able to fire people for any damn reason they please. But why the hell do people who work for a living support these measures?


Because when an employer can't fire people without massive headaches and legal risk (union grievances, lawsuits, etc.), they're much less likely to hire people in the first place. Hiring standards become much stricter, a double-whammy to those with little work experience who not only don't have a job but also aren't gaining that experience, and companies look to automate or otherwise reduce the number of employees they need to have.

Consider France, for example; hiring an employee there is about as serious a commitment as getting married, and even if the employee is incompetent or a complete slacker, it's hard to can him and hire a replacement.
 
2011-06-10 03:02:37 AM  
It should be illegal to fire someone for taking a perscription medication. Bottom line. However, if the illness or medication interferes with the persons ability to do their job then the employer should not be compeled to keep the person on. In this case they admit the woman's job performence was not affected. Why the problem I ask? Unless there is more to the story than we know I hope she wins her job back or the legal battle.
 
2011-06-10 03:04:08 AM  
schedule 1 controlled substance.
LOL
 
2011-06-10 03:08:23 AM  

BayouGodess: In this case they admit the woman's job performence was not affected. Why the problem I ask? Unless there is more to the story than we know I hope she wins her job back or the legal battle.


From the article it sounds like she was only there for a week and on condition of the result of the drug test. Unfortunately, it doesn't really sounds like she has a case.
 
2011-06-10 03:10:57 AM  

username101: I must admit that I don't know much about business relationships. Could you elaborate on what a vender is, how one of their workers quitting affected your business, and why everyone cancelled your contracts for it?

I'm not questioning the validity at all, but I don't really know much about that part of the working world.


We're a small business, and we don't have a proper C# developer on staff. Years ago, before I started, the company chose a small company to serve as our vendor for database development and graphic-design services.

It soon became clear that our vendor had one guy writing code, one lady working the Photoshop, and not much else.

Eventually, the developer left for more money. The vendor assured us he had hired a new developer and there would be no disruption in our service.

After a few months, our project hadn't moved forward. So we canceled our contract and started hiring an in-house developer.

/I'm sure the vendor's salary negotiations went like, "I can't pay you that. I'll hire someone else for half your price." Then he hired someone for cheap, couldn't bill anything to his clients and started closing up shop.
 
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2011-06-10 03:15:42 AM  
Someone needs to visit project CBD. They are making strides in medical marijuana which doesn't have the psychoactive effects.
 
2011-06-10 03:16:27 AM  

Used Cars By Wally: username101: I must admit that I don't know much about business relationships. Could you elaborate on what a vender is, how one of their workers quitting affected your business, and why everyone cancelled your contracts for it?

I'm not questioning the validity at all, but I don't really know much about that part of the working world.

We're a small business, and we don't have a proper C# developer on staff. Years ago, before I started, the company chose a small company to serve as our vendor for database development and graphic-design services.

It soon became clear that our vendor had one guy writing code, one lady working the Photoshop, and not much else.

Eventually, the developer left for more money. The vendor assured us he had hired a new developer and there would be no disruption in our service.

After a few months, our project hadn't moved forward. So we canceled our contract and started hiring an in-house developer.

/I'm sure the vendor's salary negotiations went like, "I can't pay you that. I'll hire someone else for half your price." Then he hired someone for cheap, couldn't bill anything to his clients and started closing up shop.


Well damn. That sounds messy.
 
2011-06-10 03:17:37 AM  

phunkey_monkey: If she had been prescribed Marinol, an FDA approved drug, she would not have a problem with her employer.

If anything, she should sue her doctor for recommending smoking an illegal drug.


Actually, her doctor should have given her a Marinol scrip as cover. Piss tests can't tell the difference between synthetic THC and the natural stuff. It gives you a legit reason to pop positive.
 
2011-06-10 03:18:06 AM  

BGates: Yeah. Until either the feds legalize it or the FDA approves it as a valid prescription, I imagine the same can happen in all states that have medical marijuana laws.


Already happens in California. The reason is the way the law was written. See, people were screaming bloody murder about people showing up to "safety" jobs stoned out of their gourds, such as nurses and whatnot. So they worded the law in CA that you have protection from prosecution ONLY. Thus, if you're required to take piss tests for work, and you fail, it doesn't matter if you have a legal scrip, you're still fired legally.
 
2011-06-10 03:22:16 AM  
phunkey_monkey: If she had been prescribed Marinol, an FDA approved drug, she would not have a problem with her employer.

Came to say this. Get an Rx for Marinol in addition to your marijuana, and then force your employer to prove that the test results weren't from the Marinol.
 
2011-06-10 03:25:52 AM  

username101: Used Cars By Wally: username101: I must admit that I don't know much about business relationships. Could you elaborate on what a vender is, how one of their workers quitting affected your business, and why everyone cancelled your contracts for it?

I'm not questioning the validity at all, but I don't really know much about that part of the working world.

We're a small business, and we don't have a proper C# developer on staff. Years ago, before I started, the company chose a small company to serve as our vendor for database development and graphic-design services.

It soon became clear that our vendor had one guy writing code, one lady working the Photoshop, and not much else.

Eventually, the developer left for more money. The vendor assured us he had hired a new developer and there would be no disruption in our service.

After a few months, our project hadn't moved forward. So we canceled our contract and started hiring an in-house developer.

/I'm sure the vendor's salary negotiations went like, "I can't pay you that. I'll hire someone else for half your price." Then he hired someone for cheap, couldn't bill anything to his clients and started closing up shop.

Well damn. That sounds messy.


It's proof that no one is irreplaceable, but some are more replaceable than others.
 
2011-06-10 03:36:09 AM  

loudboy: Screw potheads. If weed could be proven to be an effective treatment, then the active chemicals would be isolated and perfected.

Stoners just want an excuse to be stoners. They are a waste of air.

Employers should be able to drug test, and we should have drug tests in place for anyone on unemployment.

DON'T. DO. DRUGS.


Like Marinol, the isolated, synthetic, FDA-approved THC pill?
 
2011-06-10 03:44:36 AM  

ParaHandy: Oznog:
That's all it takes. A state can dictate when a company operating within that state can and cannot fire people, and what is and is not legitimate grounds to discriminate against them for employment.

In some states, it is not prohibited to fire someone for being gay. In some states, it is, generally because a state law says so.

Make a law that says it's illegally discriminatory to test and fire/not hire people for medical marijuana. Then it'll be... illegal. Pretty much simple as that.

There are some federal restrictions ... both sexual orientation and skin colour are protected classes under federal law. Last point is true though, the state could also outlaw drug testing period, or if they wanted to, any criterion which does not impact job performance.


The state can outlaw anything they want with a law. The difference between an Employment At Will state and not is the laws that the state wrote. If the law wants to state that you can fire a person for any reason EXCEPT sexual orientation or tobacco use or medical marijuana, they can, without a qualifier of whether it compromises their ability to do the job. It is within the power of the elected legislature to do this.
 
2011-06-10 03:48:12 AM  
Yeah I always laugh when people think they won any sort of victory with medical marijuana laws, if your in a non union right to work job you're still gong to get fired on that drug test. The laws are basically good for the retired and jackasses.
 
2011-06-10 03:51:08 AM  

BGates: Yeah. Until either the feds legalize it or the FDA approves it as a valid prescription, I imagine the same can happen in all states that have medical marijuana laws.


Yeppers.

Just like every other state in the Union. Just because you can, for instance, take 100% legal, 100% doctor prescribed Oxycontin, you're not 100% guaranteed to keep your job if you start showing up wasted out of your mind. The only difference between that and medical pot is that pot is not 100% legal yet.
 
2011-06-10 03:56:48 AM  

Oznog: The difference between an Employment At Will state and not is the laws that the state wrote.


Are there any states that aren't EAW?
 
2011-06-10 04:26:06 AM  
It is like everyone and their grandmother smokes pot or have tried it these days, and yet it is always such a BFD. It is not even close empirically as harmful as alcohol, but lets throw it under the same umbrella as heroin and meth in terms of legislation. Oh no! Anything but a drug that invokes the dangers of a two-hour nap and an empty fridge. I hope the employer chokes. Unless the employer was just looking to fire an employee he doesn't like and couldn't have otherwise legally fire through a hilariously broken legislation. In which case, well done. You are big enough of an asshole to make me proud.
 
2011-06-10 04:27:39 AM  
hey, that's where I work!
 
2011-06-10 04:35:35 AM  

LonghornRob: Is this actually a surprise to anybody?


Only to the stoners. But then, they're easily surprised.
 
2011-06-10 04:37:36 AM  

Mouser: Only to the stoners. But then, they're easily surprised.


Is that, like, supposed to be an insult or something? Harsh, man... harsh!
 
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