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(Salon)   "Can one even imagine how much better our political culture would be if our establishment media devoted even a fraction of the critical scrutiny and adversarial energy it devoted to the Weiner matter to things that actually matter?"   (salon.com) divider line 114
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2011-06-08 10:03:47 AM  
But that might get people all riled up about the big corporations and financiers that publish the news media, and we can't have that! Here, worry about which congressman is showing his dick to adults while we ignore which ones are sucking off lobbyists in their offices. It's what Jesus would want.
 
2011-06-08 10:06:37 AM  
It isn't the media's fault that people in general are dumbf*cks and nonsensical stories are what they want to see/read.

There are plenty of reputable news orgs out there. They either:
1) get buried for low ratings.
2) Get called "liberal" and become political fodder for the right.
 
2011-06-08 10:15:11 AM  
radar.oreilly.com
 
2011-06-08 10:24:08 AM  

thismomentinblackhistory:


Aaand we're done here.
 
2011-06-08 10:25:11 AM  

Lane83: But that might get people all riled up about the big corporations and financiers that publish the news media, and we can't have that! Here, worry about which congressman is showing his dick to adults while we ignore which ones are sucking off lobbyists in their offices. It's what Jesus would want. would be boring.


Fixed for accuracy.
 
2011-06-08 10:32:51 AM  

I Said: It isn't the media's fault that people in general are dumbf*cks and nonsensical stories are what they want to see/read.


I would argue that it is the media's fault for treating the news as a product to be sold, instead of a public service performed for the good of the people that support it.
 
2011-06-08 10:49:44 AM  

Code_Archeologist: I Said: It isn't the media's fault that people in general are dumbf*cks and nonsensical stories are what they want to see/read.

I would argue that it is the media's fault for treating the news as a product to be sold, instead of a public service performed for the good of the people that support it.


Used to be that the news was broadcast because government required it to, in exchange for use of public airwaves. Wasn't profitable enough for media companies to do it on their own.

It's a shame that media companies figured out how to change that.
 
2011-06-08 11:09:26 AM  
I Said
2) Get called "liberal" and become political fodder for the right.

Then most of that media gets farking terrified for no reason and becomes another right wing bullshiat outlet and/or a purveyor of useless, irrelevant "news" for fear of being labeled "liberal".

Code_Archeologist
I would argue that it is the media's fault for treating the news as a product to be sold, instead of a public service performed for the good of the people that support it.


There are still principled news people like that out there. Of course they can't get decent jobs because hard news isn't what the big media corporations want.
 
2011-06-08 11:20:42 AM  
Yep, and if Weiner had kept his dick in his pants would have nothing to talk about.
 
2011-06-08 11:24:19 AM  

Code_Archeologist: I Said: It isn't the media's fault that people in general are dumbf*cks and nonsensical stories are what they want to see/read.

I would argue that it is the media's fault for treating the news as a product to be sold, instead of a public service performed for the good of the people that support it.


I think this is our society's fault as well. For , once again, being dumbf*cks and thinking that EVERYTHING is better with a profit motive.
 
2011-06-08 11:28:46 AM  

I Said: It isn't the media's fault that people in general are dumbf*cks and nonsensical stories are what they want to see/read.

There are plenty of reputable news orgs out there.


t1.gstatic.com
 
2011-06-08 11:33:28 AM  

I Said: It isn't the media's fault that people in general are dumbf*cks and nonsensical stories are what they want to see/read.

There are plenty of reputable news orgs out there. They either:


www.fireandreamitchell.com
 
2011-06-08 11:33:43 AM  

TheDumbBlonde: Yep, and if Weiner had kept his dick in his pants would have nothing to talk about.


Technically he did keep his dick in his underpants.
 
2011-06-08 11:48:40 AM  
TheDumbBlonde: Yep, and if Weiner had kept his dick in his pants would have nothing to talk about.

Congratulations on completely missing the point.
 
2011-06-08 11:53:37 AM  
Well, they had to cover the Royal wedding and the Sarah Palin said something about Paul Revere. What else is going on that warrants coverage?
 
2011-06-08 11:58:19 AM  
BUT WHO WON AMERICAN IDOL????????
 
2011-06-08 12:05:56 PM  

Lane83: But that might get people all riled up about the big corporations and financiers that publish the news media, and we can't have that! Here, worry about which congressman is showing his dick to adults while we ignore which ones are sucking off lobbyists in their offices. It's what Jesus would want.


This, in its entirety. Be silent and consume, citizen.
 
2011-06-08 12:08:01 PM  

Nabb1: Well, they had to cover the Royal wedding and the Sarah Palin said something about Paul Revere. What else is going on that warrants coverage?


NOTHING!

If we don't watch royals get married, or pour over every dumb thing Palin says, then we're no better than the apes and we may as well fling poo at each other.
 
2011-06-08 12:50:26 PM  
I'm just annoyed that a photo of a man's underpants, sent to consenting adults, has become actual news and we may well lose a generally rationally-minded Congressman as a result. And the fact is, if you ask most people, they don't care. Most of us have done the same, or "worse", if you will.

This is a non-story that never should have been published anywhere to begin with.

I hope he stands strong and keeps his job.
 
2011-06-08 12:57:43 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: radar.oreilly.com


NPR spent quite a bit of time on this as well, regrettably.
 
2011-06-08 01:01:49 PM  

make me some tea: thismomentinblackhistory: radar.oreilly.com

NPR spent quite a bit of time on this as well, regrettably.


I heard more discussion about it on Wait Wait, Don't Tell Me than I did on Talk of the Nation or All Things Considered. Wait Wait, Don't Tell Me is the correct NPR program to discuss the story.
 
2011-06-08 01:07:34 PM  

I Said: There are plenty of reputable news orgs out there. They either:
1) get buried for low ratings.
2) Get called "liberal" and become political fodder for the right.


It's as almost as if there is a benefit to requiring entities that use the public airwaves to produce some programs for the public benefit as a requirement for use of this public resource--instead of simply making them compete against "Celebrity Debutantes, Las Vegas: Pole Dance Cage Match".
 
2011-06-08 01:07:38 PM  

make me some tea: thismomentinblackhistory: radar.oreilly.com

NPR spent quite a bit of time on this as well, regrettably.


I could have missed it because I do listen to NPR all day and sometimes it simply functions as background noise.

Hender:
I heard more discussion about it on Wait Wait, Don't Tell Me than I did on Talk of the Nation or All Things Considered. Wait Wait, Don't Tell Me is the correct NPR program to discuss the story.


I am interested to see how On the Media handles the story. They have been on fire lately. I'm thinking of the excellent coverage of "Is NPR biased?" they did in a two part series a few months ago.
 
2011-06-08 01:11:15 PM  
Meh... this is really a non-issue. I mean, the guy is a Democrat. It's not like anyone expects him to have any morals in the first place.
 
2011-06-08 01:11:46 PM  
Skleenar
"Celebrity Debutantes, Las Vegas: Pole Dance Cage Match".

WHEN IS THIS COMING OUT?!?
My DVR stands ready!
 
2011-06-08 01:51:54 PM  
How much better would our culture be if we were all smart enough not to vote for crude morons who can't control their private parts?
 
2011-06-08 02:00:56 PM  

This About That: How much better would our culture be if we were all smart enough not to vote for crude morons who can't control their private parts?


How much better would our electoral process be if we had options beyond crude moron who can't control his private parts, but who has a semi-tolerable ideological position, and demagogue who won't hesitate to cut anyone's throat if it serves his corporate masters?
 
2011-06-08 02:01:25 PM  
Wouldn't it be interesting if a site that self-righteously proclaimed itself a 'mongoose to the msm's cobra' didn't greenlight so many political threads that were complete bullshiat and didn't matter?
 
2011-06-08 02:04:53 PM  

ib_thinkin: thismomentinblackhistory: NPR

Aaand we're done here.


Good stuff, all around.
 
2011-06-08 02:06:15 PM  

This About That: How much better would our culture be if we were all smart enough not to vote for crude morons who can't control their private parts?


But were will we find these super men?
 
2011-06-08 02:08:48 PM  
this is an intriguing idea that needs to ... SQUIRREL!!
 
2011-06-08 02:08:49 PM  
It seems like every single member of the media has had Weiner on their lips for days now. I admire and respect those journalists who have chosen not to touch Weiner.
 
2011-06-08 02:09:19 PM  
Bravo Subby!

Just once... ONCE... I'd like to fire up Salon.com and read about Sarah Palin making some sort of gaffe. I mean, she's obviously coddled and protected by our country's overwhelmingly right-leaning mainstream press, but I'm SURE she's made one mistake in grammar or historical knowledge SOMEWHERE. Do some digging! Knock her down from her lofty perch as the darling of the establishment!
 
2011-06-08 02:10:03 PM  
Done in 2 or 3.
 
2011-06-08 02:10:53 PM  
I dont' know, the Politician who wants to regulate behavior on the Internet being caught being a jackass on the Internet seems like a good use of news resources.

I don't remember Salon whining about news time being devoted to these pursuits when its a Republican being busted doing something wrong.
 
2011-06-08 02:10:58 PM  
Obama is a media darling. Hardly a day goes by without some story about him. The public needs an occasional break with stories of Weiner, Palin, and Rand Paul.
 
2011-06-08 02:11:13 PM  
Oh yea sure, let's see what lib media can talk about:

Wars: No can do. It will make Obama look bad.
Economy: No can. It will make Obama look bad.
Health Care reform: See above.
 
2011-06-08 02:11:47 PM  

TheDumbBlonde: Yep, and if Weiner had kept his dick in his pants would have nothing to talk about.


You really think that? Come on. There's plenty of other stupid shiat floating out there to distract us from real problems.
 
2011-06-08 02:12:35 PM  

clovis69: I dont' know, the Politician who wants to regulate behavior on the Internet being caught being a jackass on the Internet seems like a good use of news resources.


What?
 
2011-06-08 02:14:01 PM  

I Said:
If we don't watch royals get married, or pour over every dumb thing Palin says, then we're no better than the apes and we may as well fling poo at each other.


Can't we combine those? I could see myself flinging poo at Palin.
 
2011-06-08 02:14:03 PM  

Hender: make me some tea: thismomentinblackhistory: radar.oreilly.com

NPR spent quite a bit of time on this as well, regrettably.

I heard more discussion about it on Wait Wait, Don't Tell Me than I did on Talk of the Nation or All Things Considered. Wait Wait, Don't Tell Me is the correct NPR program to discuss the story.


Maybe it was the local affiliate, WNYC, then. I can't remember. I just recall thinking, "Didn't anything else of importance happen today?"
 
2011-06-08 02:15:40 PM  

Agneska: e


I second that.
 
2011-06-08 02:15:54 PM  

Agneska: Oh yea sure, let's see what lib media can talk about:

Wars: No can do. It will make Obama look bad. One is nearly complete in terms of military involvement, the other now has a far more serious 'let's get out' option on the table. Talk all you like.
Economy: No can. It will make Obama look bad. All data shows a recovery that is on-going. Talk all you like.
Health Care reform: See above.

HCR went through, granted it was the old GOP plan, so one can only wonder what today's Teabagger-led GOP has to work with.

There ya go sport.
 
2011-06-08 02:16:30 PM  
Sorry subby, but it was really important that the Palin and Weiner stories be reported over and over again.....

/end sarcasm
 
2011-06-08 02:17:09 PM  
All of you can't jump on the cross at once. Take turns.
 
2011-06-08 02:17:33 PM  
people dont want news

they want olds


or rather it is dble stupid to try to teach a pig to sing
1st a pig cant sing
2nd it annoys the pig

ie just try to talk to an average american about something important - see what happens
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2011-06-08 02:18:13 PM  
This trifle revealed a great deal about Mr. Weiner that you would not have otherwise known. People trusted him, he proved that they were wrong to do so. Had this not happened, those people would have gone on trusting him to their own detriment.
 
2011-06-08 02:19:08 PM  

Cinaed: Agneska: Oh yea sure, let's see what lib media can talk about:

Wars: No can do. It will make Obama look bad. One is nearly complete in terms of military involvement, the other now has a far more serious 'let's get out' option on the table. Talk all you like.
Economy: No can. It will make Obama look bad. All data shows a recovery that is on-going. Talk all you like.
Health Care reform: See above. HCR went through, granted it was the old GOP plan, so one can only wonder what today's Teabagger-led GOP has to work with.

There ya go sport.


Obamapologist. Still backing up Bush 2.0? Broke and Chains.
 
2011-06-08 02:20:36 PM  
The populous served by this country's media doesn't understand the ins and outs of serious government policy actions.

Weiner waving, OTOH, is something they seem to relate to.
 
2011-06-08 02:21:28 PM  

DozeNutz: Obamapologist. Still backing up Bush 2.0? Broke and Chains


Congratulations. I saw three IQ points get up and walk out.
 
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