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2011-06-08 01:17:53 AM  
Somebody at Delta needs to be fired, at the very least.
 
2011-06-08 02:52:10 AM  
The "extra bags" are usually mandatory, and are required to stay with you until your destination. Keep in mind, you're packing for a year (or more), to be more or less ready to fight as soon as you step off the plane, to live at a spartan outpost, and to be prepared for the stuff that you had shipped separately to not re-join you for months. You are not allowed to ship this separately, or mail it home, just in case they decided to change your itinerary at the last minute, extend your tour, etc.

Assault Pack (hygiene items, small personal items)
Rucksack (Usually a few sets of uniforms, a sleeping bag)
A bag (Duffel bag full of extra uniforms, boots and more gear)
B bag (More of A)

Most officers and senior NCOs are also required to hand-carry their government issued Toughbook laptops. Plus, the snipers had to take their drag-bags.

Usually the only thing you're allowed to ship ahead or ship home is your C bag (dumb shiat you'll probably never use, but are required to take with you, personal stuff if you have space), and any personal items.

These guys should be able to get a receipt and get re-reimbursed by their local Finance Company, but seriously? WTF, Delta.
 
2011-06-08 03:37:34 AM  
As the Staff Sergeant explained, soldiers traveling on orders are allowed to have all four of their bags for no extra charge, so this seems to me to be less of a "WTF, Delta" and more of a "WTF, Delta agents in Baltimore."
 
2011-06-08 03:41:46 AM  
By the way, I'm a little amused by how he refers to his weapons as tools that he uses to "protect himself" and "protect the Afghanis." Even without any context, I find that to be an impressive feat of doublespeak. After seeing my ex-roommate last week for the first time since he came back from his first tour in Afghanistan and hearing what he had to say, it's ridiculous.
 
2011-06-08 04:53:00 AM  
It's beyond odd to me to see employees fight for their company's bottom line as if they'll get a promotion or a bonus for sticking customers. That money will go anywhere but in your pockets, even as you're you're taking a shiat on customer service. It's also interesting to see them "support the troops" in pretty much the same way they board us. It's a testament to how rigid and inconsiderate some things and some people are becoming, even when someone just got back from a months-long tour that they probably didn't want to go on. I've never worked at an airport or for an airline, but they could've had 7 bags, and unless the cargo hold was crowded, I still wouldn't have cared smh.
 
2011-06-08 05:20:56 AM  

FishyFred: I'm a little amused by how he refers to his weapons as tools that he uses to "protect himself" and "protect the Afghanis." Even without any context, I find that to be an impressive feat of doublespeak.


seriously, fark you.
 
2011-06-08 05:27:35 AM  
I've never been charged for any bags while flying in uniform. Pretty crazy. These guys are rightfully very pissed off.
 
2011-06-08 05:44:24 AM  

FishyFred: As the Staff Sergeant explained, soldiers traveling on orders are allowed to have all four of their bags for no extra charge, so this seems to me to be less of a "WTF, Delta" and more of a "WTF, Delta agents in Baltimore."


Exactly. Every now and then you just run into a dumb bunch of people. Their boss will tell their resource manager upon return, the RMO will call Delta, and Delta will say, "Ah crap! Sorry they did that!" and someone at the Baltimore desk will lose their job.

It happened to me at Atlanta, same scenario. Coming back from Afghanistan, last leg was through Shannon, Ireland. I was connecting to Norfolk, VA, when I got pulled aside. They found "hundreds of sharp objects and weapons in my bag." It was four knives and a bag of tools. In a checked bag. I had to sit there while the Delta lady talked to the TSA guy who talked to the Delta "supervisor" while they decide whether or not a guy on military orders and in uniform can carry all of these "unauthorized items." Remind you, this is a checked bag. Apparently they thought my knives would jump out and wage a rumble with the other luggage in the cargo hold, because they eventually made a group decision to let me keep the tools, but not the knives. Coming home for the first time in 6 months, yeah I'm not arguing in the airport. Deal with it later. Took me a month and never got them back. They had "destroyed them" (AKA given them to their kids) right after I left the airport, so they had to reimburse me. Thanks guys, but since one of those was handed to me directly by Admiral Mullen, I'm having a hard time declaring the value.
 
2011-06-08 05:56:17 AM  
Unless things have changed drastically in the last few years, being authorized something in your orders doesn't necessarily mean you won't have to pay for it up front. It just means you are authorized reimbursement.

Will they post a follow-up video when they get the reimbursement direct deposit from their expense report?
 
2011-06-08 06:15:23 AM  

FishyFred: As the Staff Sergeant explained, soldiers traveling on orders are allowed to have all four of their bags for no extra charge, so this seems to me to be less of a "WTF, Delta" and more of a "WTF, Delta agents in Baltimore."


I suspect it is more of a situtation of 'WTF learn now to fill out a reimbursement form'.
 
2011-06-08 06:27:02 AM  

Cinaed: FishyFred: As the Staff Sergeant explained, soldiers traveling on orders are allowed to have all four of their bags for no extra charge, so this seems to me to be less of a "WTF, Delta" and more of a "WTF, Delta agents in Baltimore."

I suspect it is more of a situtation of 'WTF learn now to fill out a reimbursement form'.


Why should Delta Airlines get that extra cash from the taxpayers? The fee should have been waved for them.
 
2011-06-08 06:58:26 AM  

skandalus: It's beyond odd to me to see employees fight for their company's bottom line as if they'll get a promotion or a bonus for sticking customers. That money will go anywhere but in your pockets, even as you're you're taking a shiat on customer service. It's also interesting to see them "support the troops" in pretty much the same way they board us. It's a testament to how rigid and inconsiderate some things and some people are becoming, even when someone just got back from a months-long tour that they probably didn't want to go on. I've never worked at an airport or for an airline, but they could've had 7 bags, and unless the cargo hold was crowded, I still wouldn't have cared smh.


And we're done.
 
2011-06-08 07:04:55 AM  

cmunic8r99: Unless things have changed drastically in the last few years, being authorized something in your orders doesn't necessarily mean you won't have to pay for it up front. It just means you are authorized reimbursement.

Will they post a follow-up video when they get the reimbursement direct deposit from their expense report?


I'm with you on this one. TCS orders and MOB orders state that you are authorized to carry up to four bags. When they arrive in Ft. Polk they will be able to claim the charge on their travel vouchers. But still, WTF Delta? I've flown plenty of times in and out of uniform on official military business. All I ever had to do was show my ID and orders and I never got charged.

I was in charge of hand carrying 10 boxes of personnel and medical files to Ft Lewis, excuse me, Joint Base Lewis-McChord for our Brigade's Deployment. When i went to check in for my flight i was not in uniform and I had my bags and these 10 huge boxes of files that i just dragged from the parking lot to the counter. The dude at the counter asks me if he can go through the boxes and make sure they are ok. I told him no, they were uber sensitive classified materials and he would have to have clearance to look through them. I said this with the most serious look on my face. After a moment I started laughing and told him i was farking with him. Dude bumped me to first class. Drunk myself all the way to SEATAC!
 
2011-06-08 07:14:04 AM  

wardlyone: I was in charge of hand carrying 10 boxes of personnel and medical files to Ft Lewis, excuse me, Joint Base Lewis-McChord for our Brigade's Deployment. When i went to check in for my flight i was not in uniform and I had my bags and these 10 huge boxes of files that i just dragged from the parking lot to the counter. The dude at the counter asks me if he can go through the boxes and make sure they are ok. I told him no, they were uber sensitive classified materials and he would have to have clearance to look through them. I said this with the most serious look on my face. After a moment I started laughing and told him i was farking with him. Dude bumped me to first class. Drunk myself all the way to SEATAC!


i.imgur.com
 
2011-06-08 07:16:33 AM  

wardlyone: cmunic8r99: Unless things have changed drastically in the last few years, being authorized something in your orders doesn't necessarily mean you won't have to pay for it up front. It just means you are authorized reimbursement.

Will they post a follow-up video when they get the reimbursement direct deposit from their expense report?

I'm with you on this one. TCS orders and MOB orders state that you are authorized to carry up to four bags. When they arrive in Ft. Polk they will be able to claim the charge on their travel vouchers. But still, WTF Delta? I've flown plenty of times in and out of uniform on official military business. All I ever had to do was show my ID and orders and I never got charged.

I was in charge of hand carrying 10 boxes of personnel and medical files to Ft Lewis, excuse me, Joint Base Lewis-McChord for our Brigade's Deployment. When i went to check in for my flight i was not in uniform and I had my bags and these 10 huge boxes of files that i just dragged from the parking lot to the counter. The dude at the counter asks me if he can go through the boxes and make sure they are ok. I told him no, they were uber sensitive classified materials and he would have to have clearance to look through them. I said this with the most serious look on my face. After a moment I started laughing and told him i was farking with him. Dude bumped me to first class. Drunk myself all the way to SEATAC!


Uggg Ft Lewis, sorry man.
 
2011-06-08 07:37:33 AM  

fisker: wardlyone: I was in charge of hand carrying 10 boxes of personnel and medical files to Ft Lewis, excuse me, Joint Base Lewis-McChord for our Brigade's Deployment. When i went to check in for my flight i was not in uniform and I had my bags and these 10 huge boxes of files that i just dragged from the parking lot to the counter. The dude at the counter asks me if he can go through the boxes and make sure they are ok. I told him no, they were uber sensitive classified materials and he would have to have clearance to look through them. I said this with the most serious look on my face. After a moment I started laughing and told him i was farking with him. Dude bumped me to first class. Drunk myself all the way to SEATAC!


I don't get it. What does a picture from the D&D Monster Manual have to do with soldiers or bags?
 
2011-06-08 07:43:48 AM  
Yes, it was assinine to charge the soldiers with orders the extra fee. They will get their money back by submitting the fee when they process their travel voucher though.

What I love is paying 2-3 times more for a seat through the military contract with the airlines and having it it be the middle seat in the last row. Nothing says thanks for your service like not being able to recline for a 9 hour flight to Germany
 
2011-06-08 08:07:32 AM  
he could have just hand carried the 4th bag, it had nothing special in it any way
 
2011-06-08 08:24:05 AM  

kyrg: Yes, it was assinine to charge the soldiers with orders the extra fee. They will get their money back by submitting the fee when they process their travel voucher though.

What I love is paying 2-3 times more for a seat through the military contract with the airlines and having it it be the middle seat in the last row. Nothing says thanks for your service like not being able to recline for a 9 hour flight to Germany


Isn't your "thanks" your paycheck?
I don't get chauffeured to Taco Bell every day.
 
2011-06-08 08:39:28 AM  
That really pissed me off. No excuse for that, Delta, no excuse.
 
2011-06-08 08:45:05 AM  
We should lower the corporate tax so Delta can use the extra money they keep to cover eventualities like this.
 
2011-06-08 08:50:15 AM  

FishyFred: By the way, I'm a little amused by how he refers to his weapons as tools that he uses to "protect himself" and "protect the Afghanis." Even without any context, I find that to be an impressive feat of doublespeak. After seeing my ex-roommate last week for the first time since he came back from his first tour in Afghanistan and hearing what he had to say, it's ridiculous.


Well of course, because they're protecting OUR freedoms by liberating the citizens of ANOTHER country...right?

/Sick and tired of all the "hero" garbage I keep hearing
//if you enlisted with the GOAL of being a hero....you will never be one regardless of what actions you do
 
2011-06-08 08:55:15 AM  
fark Delta! Besides they have a shiatty safety record.
 
2011-06-08 08:58:49 AM  

HamWBone: kyrg: Yes, it was assinine to charge the soldiers with orders the extra fee. They will get their money back by submitting the fee when they process their travel voucher though.

What I love is paying 2-3 times more for a seat through the military contract with the airlines and having it it be the middle seat in the last row. Nothing says thanks for your service like not being able to recline for a 9 hour flight to Germany

Isn't your "thanks" your paycheck?
I don't get chauffeured to Taco Bell every day.


No? say it aint so. You also don't get to spend a year away from home in a shiat hole getting shot at and eating processed food from 2007 either I bet, lighten up Francis.
 
2011-06-08 09:05:35 AM  

Razorwolf: FishyFred: As the Staff Sergeant explained, soldiers traveling on orders are allowed to have all four of their bags for no extra charge, so this seems to me to be less of a "WTF, Delta" and more of a "WTF, Delta agents in Baltimore."

Exactly. Every now and then you just run into a dumb bunch of people. Their boss will tell their resource manager upon return, the RMO will call Delta, and Delta will say, "Ah crap! Sorry they did that!" and someone at the Baltimore desk will lose their job.

It happened to me at Atlanta, same scenario. Coming back from Afghanistan, last leg was through Shannon, Ireland. I was connecting to Norfolk, VA, when I got pulled aside. They found "hundreds of sharp objects and weapons in my bag." It was four knives and a bag of tools. In a checked bag. I had to sit there while the Delta lady talked to the TSA guy who talked to the Delta "supervisor" while they decide whether or not a guy on military orders and in uniform can carry all of these "unauthorized items." Remind you, this is a checked bag. Apparently they thought my knives would jump out and wage a rumble with the other luggage in the cargo hold, because they eventually made a group decision to let me keep the tools, but not the knives. Coming home for the first time in 6 months, yeah I'm not arguing in the airport. Deal with it later. Took me a month and never got them back. They had "destroyed them" (AKA given them to their kids) right after I left the airport, so they had to reimburse me. Thanks guys, but since one of those was handed to me directly by Admiral Mullen, I'm having a hard time declaring the value.


Last time I flew (Frontier), I had 3 long guns and 5 pistols. (I think that is the max per FAA/TSA.) I checked them unloaded after showing the attendant where the "little empty holes" were supposed to be. I'm a civilian. You have to use locked cases. Mine have big ugly padlocks on them.

I support our troops (I couldn't get in, atrial fibrillation.) I get farking pissed when I hear these stories, and of you getting farked out of a memento and your other gear. Thank you for your service.
 
2011-06-08 09:16:54 AM  

log_jammin: FishyFred: I'm a little amused by how he refers to his weapons as tools that he uses to "protect himself" and "protect the Afghanis." Even without any context, I find that to be an impressive feat of doublespeak.

seriously, fark you.


Very much this, asshole.
 
2011-06-08 09:29:15 AM  

FishyFred: As the Staff Sergeant explained, soldiers traveling on orders are allowed to have all four of their bags for no extra charge, so this seems to me to be less of a "WTF, Delta" and more of a "WTF, Delta agents in Baltimore."


LMFAO, right the company shouldn't be responsible for the conduct of it's employees! I mean it's not like they represent the company or anything.... seriously?
 
2011-06-08 09:33:04 AM  
I'm not sure this warrants a youTube video. Talk to your superior officer or whoever the hell is in charge of that sort of thing and get a refund. A contract is a contract, but sometimes you deal with idiots.
 
2011-06-08 09:34:01 AM  

SDRR: FishyFred: As the Staff Sergeant explained, soldiers traveling on orders are allowed to have all four of their bags for no extra charge, so this seems to me to be less of a "WTF, Delta" and more of a "WTF, Delta agents in Baltimore."

LMFAO, right the company shouldn't be responsible for the conduct of it's employees! I mean it's not like they represent the company or anything.... seriously?


Well, sure, they're responsible for the training, which may or may not have included proper procedure on this, and the clean-up. If something like this goes viral, the training basically takes care of itself. And we'll see how they handle the clean-up.
If it really only takes one shiatty employee to ruin a company for you, you better stop doing pretty much everything.

Delta's not off the hook, but they've still got a chance to make this a neutral or positive situation.
 
2011-06-08 09:37:48 AM  

ltdanman44: Why should Delta Airlines get that extra cash from the taxpayers customers? The fee should have been waved for them.


Why? Should it just be military? Perhaps just Vets who've been deployed? Or all Federal Employees? Or just Contractors?

Personally I'd rather they charge people for taking carry-ons rather than checked bags, but that's just my own prerogative.
 
2011-06-08 09:42:24 AM  
It is just another example of what deregulation has done to this country. Employees are brow beaten by their companies to meet the so-called bottom line no matter what human indignity they have to dispense. The top tier of Americans (who can afford 1st class) has taken over our country. Expect to see more of this.
 
2011-06-08 09:46:29 AM  

JoeBagadonutz: log_jammin: FishyFred: I'm a little amused by how he refers to his weapons as tools that he uses to "protect himself" and "protect the Afghanis." Even without any context, I find that to be an impressive feat of doublespeak.

seriously, fark you.

Very much this, asshole.


No....he's right. The double speak is disgusting sometimes.

It doesn't work on the people who have been there themselves and have had friends and family there.

Enlisting and touring does NOT automatically make you a hero...I know the recruiter TOLD you that's what it does, but it doesn't.

So sick and tired of the hubris of the many "soldiers" that think they're entitled to preferential treatment because they toured....even the ones that spent 100% of their time on base in non-combat situations.

The veterans of WWII went through hell......
The veterans of Vietnam went through hell......
The veterans of desert storm got to ride around in hummers with AC......

That's why I'm sick of this hero garbage....you didn't even have the OPTION to go through what the vets of yesteryear did.

And before the self-righteous military types get up in arms.....military family, military friends.

/In the end....YOU chose to enlist since the draft isn't active.
 
2011-06-08 09:51:48 AM  
I don't like the additional fees, but I don't understand why anyone should expect not to pay them just because they are in the military, especially since they are going to get compensated for the fee from their employer anyway, just like I am. Unless Delta can specifically claim the extra bag fees against their taxes, maybe. Otherwise, you're just forcing a private company to provide something to the government for free. If the military actually has a special deal (4 bags or whatever), then I can understand being annoyed, but not so much that I'd consider it some grave injustice.
 
2011-06-08 10:05:57 AM  
The least the air hostess could do to calm their nerves was offer some cheese with that whine.
 
2011-06-08 10:12:13 AM  

ravi105: The least the air hostess could do to calm their nerves was offer some cheese with that whine.


She did offer them complimentary headphones so they could tune into inflight music channel 7: Concertos performed on the world's smallest violin.
 
2011-06-08 10:21:30 AM  

FishyFred: By the way, I'm a little amused by how he refers to his weapons as tools that he uses to "protect himself" and "protect the Afghanis." Even without any context, I find that to be an impressive feat of doublespeak. After seeing my ex-roommate last week for the first time since he came back from his first tour in Afghanistan and hearing what he had to say, it's ridiculous.


9/10 based on the responses you got.
 
2011-06-08 10:22:18 AM  

raggtopp: JoeBagadonutz: log_jammin: FishyFred: I'm a little amused by how he refers to his weapons as tools that he uses to "protect himself" and "protect the Afghanis." Even without any context, I find that to be an impressive feat of doublespeak.

seriously, fark you.

Very much this, asshole.


And before the self-righteous military types get up in arms.....military family, military friends.


Too late, you cocksucker! Yeah, we're going to get up in arms since you see fit to minimize what combat veterans experienced. Ohhhh, you have military friends and family, eh? Bullshiat! I can't see how a worthless asshole like you could possibily have ANY friends. Hey, if you think recent combat veterans had it so easy, why don't you visit a VA hospital and tell that 25 year old kid without legs how easy he had it. I bet you're the type of little pussy who would be crying for his mother on day one of recruit training. It must suck to have such low self-esteem and have so little to show for in your life, that you have to denigrate veterans. Better yet, how about you visit a Fisher House and tell the families staying there how easy today's combat veterans have it.

 
2011-06-08 10:22:57 AM  

raggtopp: JoeBagadonutz: log_jammin: FishyFred: I'm a little amused by how he refers to his weapons as tools that he uses to "protect himself" and "protect the Afghanis." Even without any context, I find that to be an impressive feat of doublespeak.

seriously, fark you.

Very much this, asshole.

No....he's right. The double speak is disgusting sometimes.


Dude, all he said was "protect the Afghanis." And then doucher had a problem with that. Well, guess what - most Afghanis aren't combatants, they're civilians. And they get killed regularly by the Taliban fighters and other insurgents. Often, the soldiers there are protecting 1.) themselves and 2.) the Afghanis.

Slow your roll a little. You clearly have an ax to grind, but wait till you're at the blacksmith's, you know?
 
2011-06-08 10:23:42 AM  

kyrg: HamWBone: kyrg: Yes, it was assinine to charge the soldiers with orders the extra fee. They will get their money back by submitting the fee when they process their travel voucher though.

What I love is paying 2-3 times more for a seat through the military contract with the airlines and having it it be the middle seat in the last row. Nothing says thanks for your service like not being able to recline for a 9 hour flight to Germany

Isn't your "thanks" your paycheck?
I don't get chauffeured to Taco Bell every day.

No? say it aint so. You also don't get to spend a year away from home in a shiat hole getting shot at and eating processed food from 2007 either I bet, lighten up Francis.


Which anyone who has volunteered since 2002 understood coming in. Face it, "supporting the troops" is a catchphrase, a way to give simpletons a warm and fuzzy feeling about shopping at their particular establishment over their competition. If we as a nation were serious about this, we would allow the military to fight wars in a manner that they deem necessary (while upholding international treaties), not the political pseudo-military conflicts we've had since Vietnam. We would also ensure that they had world-class medical care upon their arrival from the war zone, including mental health, that would stay with them for the rest of their lives and not be used as a political pawn whenever the budget is due.
 
2011-06-08 10:24:39 AM  

raggtopp: JoeBagadonutz: log_jammin: FishyFred: I'm a little amused by how he refers to his weapons as tools that he uses to "protect himself" and "protect the Afghanis." Even without any context, I find that to be an impressive feat of doublespeak.

seriously, fark you.

Very much this, asshole.

No....he's right. The double speak is disgusting sometimes.

It doesn't work on the people who have been there themselves and have had friends and family there.

Enlisting and touring does NOT automatically make you a hero...I know the recruiter TOLD you that's what it does, but it doesn't.

So sick and tired of the hubris of the many "soldiers" that think they're entitled to preferential treatment because they toured....even the ones that spent 100% of their time on base in non-combat situations.

The veterans of WWII went through hell......
The veterans of Vietnam went through hell......
The veterans of desert storm got to ride around in hummers with AC......

That's why I'm sick of this hero garbage....you didn't even have the OPTION to go through what the vets of yesteryear did.

And before the self-righteous military types get up in arms.....military family, military friends.

/In the end....YOU chose to enlist since the draft isn't active.


No one said hero besides you, you disingenuous twat.
 
2011-06-08 10:27:53 AM  

Ellador: ravi105: The least the air hostess could do to calm their nerves was offer some cheese with that whine.

She did offer them complimentary headphones so they could tune into inflight music channel 7: Concertos performed on the world's smallest violin.


The fourth bag contained a military issued arsenal. The other three were filled with designer cosmetics, sundresses and various adult toys including strap-ons, remote eggs and double-ended dildos.

/Don't ask.....
 
2011-06-08 10:33:36 AM  

serial_crusher: I'm not sure this warrants a youTube video. Talk to your superior officer or whoever the hell is in charge of that sort of thing and get a refund. A contract is a contract, but sometimes you deal with idiots.


Yes, because a medium as rarified as YouTube should be reserved for higher purposes like homemade karaoke and Rebecca Black videos.
 
2011-06-08 10:47:02 AM  

log_jammin:
No one said hero besides you, you disingenuous twat.


Because no soldier who has the attitude that "civvies" owe them for their freedom at home ever called themselves a hero...

Also....do you even have the faintest clue what "disingenuous" means?

I never said there weren't soldiers that are heroes....just that they are not heroes by default.
 
2011-06-08 10:56:47 AM  

raggtopp: log_jammin:
No one said hero besides you, you disingenuous twat.

Because no soldier who has the attitude that "civvies" owe them for their freedom at home ever called themselves a hero...

Also....do you even have the faintest clue what "disingenuous" means?

I never said there weren't soldiers that are heroes....just that they are not heroes by default.


What you ARE doing is hopping on a douchebag criticizing a soldier for saying "protect the Afghanis" and using it as a launching off point to go on an unrelated rant. You're behaving like what we in the business like to call "a douchebag."

You can have whatever opinion you want on a "hero complex," since it's a real phenomenon and all. Just don't go off on a ridiculous tangent when it's totally unwarranted.
 
2011-06-08 10:59:23 AM  
Delta's response (new window)

Currently, Active Duty U.S. Military Personnel traveling on orders may check up to 4 bags in First/Business class and 3 bags in Coach for free both domestically and internationally.

Oh, if they'd only had the foresight to travel first class, the 4th bag would fly free! Silly me.
 
2011-06-08 11:01:31 AM  

LasersHurt: What you ARE doing is hopping on a douchebag criticizing a soldier for saying "protect the Afghanis"


The original poster seemed to be suggesting the solider was brainwashed by propaganda, in that he used the term doublespeak.
 
2011-06-08 11:01:44 AM  

raggtopp: log_jammin:
No one said hero besides you, you disingenuous twat.

Because no soldier who has the attitude that "civvies" owe them for their freedom at home ever called themselves a hero...

Also....do you even have the faintest clue what "disingenuous" means?

I never said there weren't soldiers that are heroes....just that they are not heroes by default.


No one said "civvies" owe their freedom to anyone. And no one said soldiers were heros or heros by default you disingenuous twat.
 
2011-06-08 11:02:11 AM  
if i have to pay a bag fee, why the fark shouldn't they


/didn't watch the video
 
2011-06-08 11:03:13 AM  

Headso: LasersHurt: What you ARE doing is hopping on a douchebag criticizing a soldier for saying "protect the Afghanis"

The original poster seemed to be suggesting the solider was brainwashed by propaganda, in that he used the term doublespeak.


Still pretty retarded. The soldier was just listing things he LITERALLY does with a gun.
 
2011-06-08 11:09:28 AM  
cmunic8r99: Will they post a follow-up video when they get the reimbursement direct deposit from their expense report?
 
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