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2011-06-04 03:11:43 PM
Mugato: Fark Crosby: I'm ok with this.

Really. I don't condone censorship but I'm so Goddammed tired of hearing about Facebook and Twitter. And no, I'm not some old bastard technophobe. I'm a software developer and motion graphics designer who uses state of the art stuff. I'm just sick of hearing about those two pieces of technology.

And texting. I farking hate texting.


I agee. I wouldn't be so hostile towards them if they weren't in my face all the time, no matter where I go on the internet.
 
2011-06-04 03:16:45 PM
HEY!! France didn't mention Reddit in that press release. That's disrespectful and I'm going to complain!
 
2011-06-04 03:17:51 PM
fisker: AcneVulgaris: You COULD just not to go to Facebook and Twitter. I don't see why you need to block them at the router. It's not like they're going to come after you.

Yes, they DO come after you and AT you. They are on every commercial now, "LINK US ON FACEBOOK AND TWITTER! TEE HEE!!!". Up at the top of THIS thread? Yep Facebook and twitter links.

Right there. In your face. Coming after you. If you don't click them, a very large black dude will come over and fark you in your ASS!


Well, that's because it's all about ME. I have to post or tweet something so all of my friends know what I am thinking and doing. Keep me at the center of your very existence. You will look at what I am doing and damn it YOU WILL LIKE IT!

/got nothin'.
 
2011-06-04 03:19:42 PM
France has been having hissy-fits about the intrusion of English words into its language for as long as I can remember. Never mind that all modern languages tend to incorporate bits from other languages, and that English is strewn with French bits -- French is "special." That's why, even though I thought "freedom fries" was ridiculous, I didn't think it was uniquely ridiculous.
 
2011-06-04 03:19:51 PM
Mugato: Fark Crosby: I'm ok with this.

Really. I don't condone censorship but I'm so Goddammed tired of hearing about Facebook and Twitter. And no, I'm not some old bastard technophobe. I'm a software developer and motion graphics designer who uses state of the art stuff. I'm just sick of hearing about those two pieces of technology.

And texting. I farking hate texting.


i631.photobucket.com

/"yabetterleavenowwhileyastillgotthelegstocarryya"

And Pikeys!! I farking HATE Pikeys!!
 
2011-06-04 03:20:54 PM
astouffer: Fark Crosby: I'm ok with this.

Me too. People ask why I never go on facebook. When I do take a look its nothing I could give a shiat about. I don't care what youtube video you like or what your thoughts are while riding the bus.


You sound like a really great friend. I wish my friends did not care about what interested me.
 
2011-06-04 03:22:27 PM
You can tell how insignificant a culture is by how hard the locals make up asinine laws to 'preserve it'. Just look at Canada if you need further proof. Culture, language and humanity are living, evolving things.

Of course, national 'purity' has always been pretty important to the Germans, hasn't it?
 
2011-06-04 03:26:07 PM
I can ignore the commercials. It's my friends and people who aren't my friends who are constantly, "are you on facebook? Why aren't you on facebook? Why aren't you tweeting? Where's your twitter account?".

I actually made a facebook account to find one friend from high school I hadn't spoken to in a while and now I have like 100 friends who I have no idea who they are and my regular friends are all, "I emailed you on facebook, where are you?". I logged on to Facebook once 7 months ago. Use the email you've been using to reach me for the last decade, Goddammit.
 
2011-06-04 03:27:55 PM
Zik-Zak: We get it, you're counterculture and edgy.

No I genuinely have yet to read anything on facebook that interests me. When people ask me about twitter I look like the Stig when he was riding the bus and someone handed him a cell phone.
 
2011-06-04 03:29:50 PM
Mock26: astouffer: Fark Crosby: I'm ok with this.

Me too. People ask why I never go on facebook. When I do take a look its nothing I could give a shiat about. I don't care what youtube video you like or what your thoughts are while riding the bus.

You sound like a really great friend. I wish my friends did not care about what interested me.



So that's what it takes to be a great friend these days, or at least one element of a great friend? Leafing through the minutia and trivial musings of others with interest and careful consideration?

That seems silly as hell to me. Unfortunately, I think the majority would agree with you.
 
2011-06-04 03:30:12 PM
Can't express how cool I think you all are

I mean, WOW You guys hate Facebook AND Twitter! Can I get an autograph?

/snark off

If you don't like it whatever, I myself don't spend 5 minutes on Facebook, but when I meet someone I like the first thing I do is check em out on facebook.

Twitter? I love it, I follow bands that I like, a local traffic twitter and some really close friends, can't tell you how many times I've dodged a blocked intersection, or scored free tickets to a concert/event thanks to Twiiter.
 
2011-06-04 03:32:10 PM
Fark is the Facebook for anonymous people where everyone is your friend and trolls you.

I no longer live in America, so I rarely see CNN, etc. But when I do, they're always mentioning Facebook and/or Twitter. It is ridiculous and dumb. So go France, even if you come off like douches having to make a regulation for it.
 
2011-06-04 03:39:36 PM
What, no img1.fark.net tag?
 
2011-06-04 03:42:49 PM
Any bans on "It is what it is" yet? Censorship I could live with.
 
2011-06-04 03:44:10 PM
maq0r: Can't express how cool I think you all are

I mean, WOW You guys hate Facebook AND Twitter! Can I get an autograph?


Well at least you didn't use the word "hipster".
 
2011-06-04 03:46:45 PM
lennavan: What, no tag?


We're talking about a nation that hides its all white flag with a blue and red stripe to look inconspicuous.
 
2011-06-04 03:48:31 PM
Mr Rusty Shackleford: Mock26: astouffer: Fark Crosby: I'm ok with this.

Me too. People ask why I never go on facebook. When I do take a look its nothing I could give a shiat about. I don't care what youtube video you like or what your thoughts are while riding the bus.

You sound like a really great friend. I wish my friends did not care about what interested me.


So that's what it takes to be a great friend these days, or at least one element of a great friend? Leafing through the minutia and trivial musings of others with interest and careful consideration?

That seems silly as hell to me. Unfortunately, I think the majority would agree with you.


Who said anything about careful consideration? Hmm? Certainly not me. Nor did I imply that one had to like every single thing that a friend posts.

However, I do think that one element of being a good friend is having an interest in what interests me. If my friends and I did not share common interests we would not be friends, right? Facebook is just another way to share those interests.

I am assuming that you have friends, right? Have you ever seen one of your friends in person and, for example, he told you a funny story about what happened on his commute to work earlier that day or earlier that week? What is the difference with telling you in person and telling you via Facebook? And have you ever looked at a video that some suggested to you? So what difference between sending it in an e-mail or telling you via Facebook?

Facebook is just another way to connect with friends. If you add people who you do not know then chances are that you are going to wind up annoying "friends" who tell you about being on the rag or posting videos of kittens riding turtles or post pictures of their baby's very first poop. But who is at fault for that? Facebook? Of course not. It is your fault for adding such people as friends. And if you are friends with these people in real life then there must be something about them that you like, something that makes you put up with their annoyances. So as I said before, what difference between telling/showing you in person or doing it via e-mail or doing it via Facebook?
 
2011-06-04 03:52:16 PM
SOCIAL NETWORKING HATE THREAD ON A SOCIAL MEDIA WEBSITE!!

Man, there's a lotta people in here who's lawns I should avoid...
 
2011-06-04 03:52:40 PM
maq0r: Can't express how cool I think you all are

I mean, WOW You guys hate Facebook AND Twitter! Can I get an autograph?

/snark off

If you don't like it whatever, I myself don't spend 5 minutes on Facebook, but when I meet someone I like the first thing I do is check em out on facebook.

Twitter? I love it, I follow bands that I like, a local traffic twitter and some really close friends, can't tell you how many times I've dodged a blocked intersection, or scored free tickets to a concert/event thanks to Twiiter.


I allow you to share the same space I breath as long as you're not twittering and driving at the same time. Or twittering so that I have to cover your ass at work. Or not taking care of your family, homework, etc...
 
2011-06-04 03:54:29 PM
TsukasaK: SOCIAL NETWORKING HATE THREAD ON A SOCIAL MEDIA WEBSITE!!

Man, there's a lotta people in here who's lawns I should avoid...


Stay the fark off my Second Life lawn.
 
2011-06-04 03:55:52 PM
I love threads like this where it's hilariously easy to see who didn't RTFA.

The law says they can't show favoritism to any particular company on the air, not that they have to pretend FB and Twitter don't exist. Personally I think it's great idea. News organizations shouldn't be endorsing products, or political candidates on the air, and them saying "follow us on twitter! derp!" every 5 minutes is an endorsement IMO.

/wants facebook and its ilk to just go away
 
2011-06-04 03:56:36 PM
I'm okay with this too. Hashtag this, and Trending topic that. Eh! Not having them shoved down our throats every second of the day, everywhere you go, is a good thing.
 
2011-06-04 03:56:49 PM
ultraholland: Stay the fark off my Second Life lawn.

Im in ur house, playing with ur hidden poseballs...
 
2011-06-04 03:57:38 PM
Roxy Monoxide: I'm okay with this too. Hashtag this, and Trending topic that. Eh! Not having them shoved down our throats every second of the day, everywhere you go, is a good thing.

Tell me, did you start yelling at clouds complaining when every company started advertising their web address? This is the same exact thing.
 
2011-06-04 03:58:56 PM
Zik-Zak: astouffer: Me too. People ask why I never go on facebook. When I do take a look its nothing I could give a shiat about. I don't care what youtube video you like or what your thoughts are while riding the bus.


We get it, you're counterculture and edgy.



No, we get it. You guys are self-absorbed and think everyone else gives a shiat about what you think and do.

/Keep a diary-ledger if you must, but really.
 
2011-06-04 03:59:09 PM
Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: I love threads like this where it's hilariously easy to see who didn't RTFA.

The law says they can't show favoritism to any particular company on the air, not that they have to pretend FB and Twitter don't exist. Personally I think it's great idea. News organizations shouldn't be endorsing products, or political candidates on the air, and them saying "follow us on twitter! derp!" every 5 minutes is an endorsement IMO.

/wants facebook and its ilk to just go away


3/10; almost interesting
 
2011-06-04 04:01:14 PM
Rich Cream: No, we get it. You guys are self-absorbed and think everyone else gives a shiat about what you think and do.

Aww, how cute, someone who still doesn't know how to use twitter.
 
2011-06-04 04:01:44 PM
TsukasaK: Roxy Monoxide: I'm okay with this too. Hashtag this, and Trending topic that. Eh! Not having them shoved down our throats every second of the day, everywhere you go, is a good thing.

Tell me, did you start yelling at clouds complaining when every company started advertising their web address? This is the same exact thing.


Interesting you see it that way. I'm not interested in being led around like sheep. I'm not sure, do you understand the psychology of how social media is being used on society?
 
2011-06-04 04:03:46 PM
Roxy Monoxide: do you understand the psychology of how social media is being used on society?

You mean the social media that you are, at this very second, taking part in? I'm sorry, I just find comments on how much people hate facebook and twitter and $(site) to be hilarious coming from people who are just using a different form of the same thing.
 
2011-06-04 04:04:51 PM
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......Meh/ my peeps are funny sometimes.......
 
2011-06-04 04:08:36 PM
TsukasaK: Roxy Monoxide: do you understand the psychology of how social media is being used on society?

You mean the social media that you are, at this very second, taking part in? I'm sorry, I just find comments on how much people hate facebook and twitter and $(site) to be hilarious coming from people who are just using a different form of the same thing.


So because I'm okay with the refreshing take of not allowing mass media to be constantly shoved down our throats, I can't use any (social) site? Wow. I just dont...I don't even...

Glad we can agree to disagree.
 
2011-06-04 04:11:17 PM
jiaxiaobo: Niali: France does this. They're actively trying to preserve the language in its "classic" form rather than let it evolve like any other language, ever. Stuff like this is part of that attempt -- the media was dangerously close to adding two words to the French lexicon without permission.

If it's not curtailed, English will eventually corrupt evey other language on the planet. I can only speak for German and Mandarin but it's not just new words being added - grammatical structures are also being changed because they are "cooler" when expressed in the American style. It destroys the beauty, flow, logic of the speech. The beauty and cultural importance of language is in its own roots, history, stories therein, logical reasoning, artistic construction, the way in which you (can) understand and describe the world and ultimately how you think. Yes, all languages have evolved. But in the era of globalization, English and its cultural impact is another phenomenon entirely. If you're not a linguist, you probably couldn't care less, but there's more to it than just "letting a few words in". Viva la France.


Ha. They're fighting a futile and losing battle. Something they're intimately familiar with at least. Linguistics as a science is descriptive, the discipline will be fine. Some changes bother me as well but that begs the question, "what're ya gonna do?"
 
2011-06-04 04:12:56 PM
Hero tag... MIA?
 
2011-06-04 04:15:50 PM
JonPace: astouffer: Fark Crosby: I'm ok with this.

Me too. People ask why I never go on facebook. When I do take a look its nothing I could give a shiat about. I don't care what youtube video you like or what your thoughts are while riding the bus.

I agree. Government should always dictate what people can and can't say.

We're all also highly impressed that you're too cool for facebook


I am too cool to be impressed that he is too cool for facebook.
 
2011-06-04 04:16:53 PM
Rich Cream: Zik-Zak: astouffer: Me too. People ask why I never go on facebook. When I do take a look its nothing I could give a shiat about. I don't care what youtube video you like or what your thoughts are while riding the bus.


We get it, you're counterculture and edgy.


No, we get it. You guys are self-absorbed and think everyone else gives a shiat about what you think and do.

/Keep a diary-ledger if you must, but really.


Actually, I don't have a Facebook page, and I don't use Twitter. So, may I ask: WTF are you talking about?
 
2011-06-04 04:17:02 PM
TsukasaK: Roxy Monoxide: do you understand the psychology of how social media is being used on society?

You mean the social media that you are, at this very second, taking part in? I'm sorry, I just find comments on how much people hate facebook and twitter and $(site) to be hilarious coming from people who are just using a different form of the same thing.


In this situation we have individuals sharing ideas on a common topic- similar to a classroom setting or a business meeting. An individual submits, others react and post. Most of us even go so far as to wait for a replay to our submissions. By definition, a conversation.

Most of Facebook submissions I've seen are users dropping information about themselves and their doings and then not sticking around long enough (or even caring enough) for a response. Twitter is nothing more then communicational flatulence.
 
2011-06-04 04:18:25 PM
Fantastic, but this is confusing:

"Radio and television news anchors may no longer say the words "Facebook" and "Twitter" on air, unless the terms are part of a news story."

I thought that news anchors' entire function was to tell a news story...
 
2011-06-04 04:18:38 PM
FTA

"Imagine if, in the United States, the federal regulator told networks such as CNN that they were not allowed to feature their Twitter feeds on the screen,"

Whey then CNN might actually have to report actual news stories.
 
2011-06-04 04:18:40 PM
Zik-Zak: Rich Cream: Zik-Zak: astouffer: Me too. People ask why I never go on facebook. When I do take a look its nothing I could give a shiat about. I don't care what youtube video you like or what your thoughts are while riding the bus.


We get it, you're counterculture and edgy.


No, we get it. You guys are self-absorbed and think everyone else gives a shiat about what you think and do.

/Keep a diary-ledger if you must, but really.

Actually, I don't have a Facebook page, and I don't use Twitter. So, may I ask: WTF are you talking about?



It was a straw man. Your response was supposed to be "I just use it as a means to keep in contact with all the people I know".

Follow the script next time, please.
 
2011-06-04 04:21:25 PM
Zik-Zak: Rich Cream: Zik-Zak: astouffer: Me too. People ask why I never go on facebook. When I do take a look its nothing I could give a shiat about. I don't care what youtube video you like or what your thoughts are while riding the bus.


We get it, you're counterculture and edgy.


No, we get it. You guys are self-absorbed and think everyone else gives a shiat about what you think and do.

/Keep a diary-ledger if you must, but really.

Actually, I don't have a Facebook page, and I don't use Twitter. So, may I ask: WTF are you talking about?


HA, this is what I'm talking about. There's an interesting psychological dynamic going on in terms of social media. On both sides of the fence.
 
2011-06-04 04:21:31 PM
astouffer: Zik-Zak: We get it, you're counterculture and edgy.

No I genuinely have yet to read anything on facebook that interests me. When people ask me about twitter I look like the Stig when he was riding the bus and someone handed him a cell phone.


Well, that's fine, but what's wrong with saying that Facebook or Twitter is just not your thing? That's what I usually do, and the people who ask me drop the subject altogether. It's not like people are actively pushing these things on you, are they?

/no snark, are people really actively pushing these things on you?
 
2011-06-04 04:22:57 PM
Rich Cream: It was a straw man. Your response was supposed to be "I just use it as a means to keep in contact with all the people I know".

Follow the script next time, please.


...so, I lost the game?
 
2011-06-04 04:31:21 PM
Mugato:
Really. I don't condone censorship but I'm so Goddammed tired of hearing about Facebook and Twitter. And no, I'm not some old bastard technophobe. I'm a software developer and motion graphics designer who uses state of the art stuff. I'm just sick of hearing about those two pieces of technology.

And texting. I farking hate texting.


So you're not an old bastard technophobe, you're just an old bastard. One who hates forms of communication you aren't forced to use.

Slaxl: Every single random moron out there posting their opinions are worthless idiots with pointless opinions which are usually wrong. If you don't agree with me then that just proves my point.

Oh shiat I still can't stop laughing at this part.
 
2011-06-04 04:33:46 PM
Zik-Zak:
...so, I lost the game?


Certainly now you did.
 
2011-06-04 04:38:04 PM
Banning what people say on TV? Well, I'm not really OK with that, even if it is Facebook and Twitter. I'm also not really OK with it if the word is fark or tits or shiat.
Having said that (and been ironically filtered in the process) "journalists" whose job has become repeating and reading on the air what assorted farktards have posted on their Twitter or Facebook deserve a hearty communal cockpunch.
 
2011-06-04 04:42:10 PM
Niali: France does this. They're actively trying to preserve the language in its "classic" form rather than let it evolve like any other language, ever. Stuff like this is part of that attempt -- the media was dangerously close to adding two words to the French lexicon without permission.

They all wear berets and they're all called Jacques,
They even steal from us the words they lack
Le weekend, Le Camping and cul de sac
That's why I hate the French.
 
2011-06-04 04:43:49 PM
Niali: France does this. They're actively trying to preserve the language in its "classic" form rather than let it evolve like any other language, ever. Stuff like this is part of that attempt -- the media was dangerously close to adding two words to the French lexicon without permission.

Guess you didn't read the article.

All they're doing, for those who didn't bother, is prevent news stations from adding that horrendous "follow us on Facebook and Twitter!" to their stories and advertising. If it's part of a legitimate news story, the reporters can still say "facebook" and "twitter". It's a restraint on using the two sites as extra free advertising for the stations, not to keep the French lexicon pure.
 
2011-06-04 04:47:02 PM
astouffer: Fark Crosby: I'm ok with this.

Me too. People ask why I never go on facebook. When I do take a look its nothing I could give a shiat about. I don't care what youtube video you like or what your thoughts are while riding the bus.


Facebook was great until corporate America infiltrated it. I'm okay with ads, I know how to block them but all the "like us on Facebook" crap is really getting old.
 
2011-06-04 04:48:20 PM
Mugato: Fark Crosby: I'm ok with this.

Really. I don't condone censorship but I'm so Goddammed tired of hearing about Facebook and Twitter. And no, I'm not some old bastard technophobe. I'm a software developer and motion graphics designer who uses state of the art stuff. I'm just sick of hearing about those two pieces of technology.

And texting. I farking hate texting.


Hear, hear.

/former BOFH and DBA
 
2011-06-04 04:53:59 PM
Rashnu: "what're ya gonna do?"

Allow governments to dictate what is added to the the lexicon and what isn't. Preserve the flow, rhythm, identity, beauty, logic of the languge by keeping language used in the media and schools 'pure'. When possible (99% of the time), logically translate the loan words/ideas to keep them consistent with the mother tongue. When impossible, at least conform the pronunciation so it's consistent with the mother tongue.

Most people respond to the problem with "languages evolve naturally and there's nothing anyone can do about (the encroachment of English terms)". I beg to differ entirely. People created language in the first place and have been continually modifying them up to present-day. If schools, media and governments didn't tinker with them over the years, there would probably be millions of different languages today instead of the 6,000 (and shrinking) we have. Preserving the essence of a language is preserving a unique way of describing, understanding and communicating the world, and, for linguists, an art form.

In short, Go, France. Preservation is entirely possible.
 
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