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2011-05-29 12:42:39 PM  
What exactly is the deal 'tween McCain and Palin?
He has toasted his entire career endorsing this loser.
Should have left her to stew in the mess she made in Alaska.
 
2011-05-29 12:46:56 PM  
Her running mate will be under great scrutiny, in case she gets bored and quits after two years.
 
2011-05-29 12:51:46 PM  

snocone: What exactly is the deal 'tween McCain and Palin?
He has toasted his entire career endorsing this loser.
Should have left her to stew in the mess she made in Alaska.


He has to double down on his stupid bet.
 
2011-05-29 12:53:46 PM  
This is John McCain's final "F*ck you" to the party that made him support torture to be able to run for President.
 
2011-05-29 01:01:49 PM  
Actually, I think we're seeing something glorious in action.

This, gents, is the biggest and most elaborate 'thrown under the bus' in political history.

They're actually maneuvering to give Palin the nomination. They're going to simultaneously gut the Teaderpers' resistance and rid themselves of the loud annoying woman who keeps bringing them too much bad PR.

By doing this, they demonstrate once and for all that the Teaderpers 'need' the GOP in order to be a viable force.

By doing this, they hold up Palin to as much scrutiny as she can possible handle, rewarding her for all the bad PR she's given them over the last 4 years. She'll quit in a spasm of recrimination thrown all around, and the Teaderpers will flail about without their Mama Grizzly.
 
2011-05-29 01:04:58 PM  
So, since McCain lost to Obama with Palin as his running mate, and he thinks she can beat Obama on her own, is he now saying that the only reason they lost was because of him?
 
2011-05-29 01:07:59 PM  
If you voted for McCain, you need to be paying careful attention to this. In only two years, the guy has become THAT addled. And the people who put him in the position to pick Palin and run for President are the same folk who will decide next year's Republican candidate. Terrifying.
 
2011-05-29 01:13:18 PM  

Infernalist: Actually, I think we're seeing something glorious in action.

This, gents, is the biggest and most elaborate 'thrown under the bus' in political history.

They're actually maneuvering to give Palin the nomination. They're going to simultaneously gut the Teaderpers' resistance and rid themselves of the loud annoying woman who keeps bringing them too much bad PR.

By doing this, they demonstrate once and for all that the Teaderpers 'need' the GOP in order to be a viable force.

By doing this, they hold up Palin to as much scrutiny as she can possible handle, rewarding her for all the bad PR she's given them over the last 4 years. She'll quit in a spasm of recrimination thrown all around, and the Teaderpers will flail about without their Mama Grizzly.


I think you're assuming way too much intelligence from the GOP. What have they done recently that makes you think these people are capable of that level of coherent thought?
 
2011-05-29 01:22:56 PM  
Actually, Infernalist's scenario could play out in the absence of coherent thought
 
2011-05-29 01:24:27 PM  

GAT_00: Infernalist: Actually, I think we're seeing something glorious in action.

This, gents, is the biggest and most elaborate 'thrown under the bus' in political history.

They're actually maneuvering to give Palin the nomination. They're going to simultaneously gut the Teaderpers' resistance and rid themselves of the loud annoying woman who keeps bringing them too much bad PR.

By doing this, they demonstrate once and for all that the Teaderpers 'need' the GOP in order to be a viable force.

By doing this, they hold up Palin to as much scrutiny as she can possible handle, rewarding her for all the bad PR she's given them over the last 4 years. She'll quit in a spasm of recrimination thrown all around, and the Teaderpers will flail about without their Mama Grizzly.

I think you're assuming way too much intelligence from the GOP. What have they done recently that makes you think these people are capable of that level of coherent thought?


Generally, their outright fleeing from the party nomination by any means necessary. Looking at it from a distance, it seems like the whole of the party is quieting down, except for these repeated gestures toward Palin.

I'm reminded of that old TV trope where a drill sergeant asks for someone to volunteer for a suicide mission by stepping forward...resulting in everyone stepping 'back' one step, except that one poor stupid excluded fool who wasn't in on it.

Palin's that poor fool who's not in on it, and she's being pushed forward as the potential 'front runner'.
 
2011-05-29 01:28:08 PM  
Infernalist may be onto something
 
2011-05-29 01:33:19 PM  

Infernalist: Actually, I think we're seeing something glorious in action.

This, gents, is the biggest and most elaborate 'thrown under the bus' in political history.

They're actually maneuvering to give Palin the nomination. They're going to simultaneously gut the Teaderpers' resistance and rid themselves of the loud annoying woman who keeps bringing them too much bad PR.

By doing this, they demonstrate once and for all that the Teaderpers 'need' the GOP in order to be a viable force.

By doing this, they hold up Palin to as much scrutiny as she can possible handle, rewarding her for all the bad PR she's given them over the last 4 years. She'll quit in a spasm of recrimination thrown all around, and the Teaderpers will flail about without their Mama Grizzly.


Your argument only works if you consider that the tea party will look at the coming election cycle rationally. What's more likely to happen is that the tea party will run more primary candidate against RINOs, then in some districts they will run their own candidate in the general. The Democrats will get in office, the GOP money that flows to the tea party will disappear, and tea party will remain as a third party in regions of the country.
 
2011-05-29 01:33:36 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Infernalist may be onto something


But raises the question, what happens if the nominee quits before the election?
 
2011-05-29 01:34:51 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Infernalist may be onto something


It assumes more intelligence from the GOP than they have demonstrated in quite some time.
 
2011-05-29 01:35:32 PM  

WTF Indeed: Infernalist: Actually, I think we're seeing something glorious in action.

This, gents, is the biggest and most elaborate 'thrown under the bus' in political history.

They're actually maneuvering to give Palin the nomination. They're going to simultaneously gut the Teaderpers' resistance and rid themselves of the loud annoying woman who keeps bringing them too much bad PR.

By doing this, they demonstrate once and for all that the Teaderpers 'need' the GOP in order to be a viable force.

By doing this, they hold up Palin to as much scrutiny as she can possible handle, rewarding her for all the bad PR she's given them over the last 4 years. She'll quit in a spasm of recrimination thrown all around, and the Teaderpers will flail about without their Mama Grizzly.

Your argument only works if you consider that the tea party will look at the coming election cycle rationally. What's more likely to happen is that the tea party will run more primary candidate against RINOs, then in some districts they will run their own candidate in the general. The Democrats will get in office, the GOP money that flows to the tea party will disappear, and tea party will remain as a third party in regions of the country.


Except, from what I've seen, the GOP and the Teaderpers are one and the same these days. They've co-opted the local levels of the GOP in Florida, at least. Moderates need not apply.

The GOP is being infested with the derp from the ground up.
 
2011-05-29 01:39:27 PM  
"I've never seen anyone as mercilessly attacked and relentlessly attacked as I have seen Sarah Palin in the last couple of years," McCain said.

Those merciless and relentless liberal attacks show that Palin is the one they fear most. That's why she should run. When you find out what your opponent fears most, do it.
 
2011-05-29 01:40:24 PM  

GAT_00: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Infernalist may be onto something

It assumes more intelligence from the GOP than they have demonstrated in quite some time.


True. But there is a certain elegant simplicity to it. Perhaps just simple enough to occur even to the GOP leadership. Sure it means giving up any real hope of winning the Presidency in '12, but I'm not sure they had much hope of that, anyway.
 
2011-05-29 01:40:28 PM  

Infernalist: Except, from what I've seen, the GOP and the Teaderpers are one and the same these days. They've co-opted the local levels of the GOP in Florida, at least. Moderates need not apply.

The GOP is being infested with the derp from the ground up.


The candidates are the same, however the staffers, especially at the national and state levels are still moderates, hell a good number of them happen to be gay. Until the tea party starts getting professional staffers at a high level, the GOP will always be run by the moderates.
 
2011-05-29 01:41:39 PM  

SkinnyHead: "I've never seen anyone as mercilessly attacked and relentlessly attacked as I have seen Sarah Palin in the last couple of years," McCain said.

Those merciless and relentless liberal attacks show that Palin is the one they fear most. That's why she should run. When you find out what your opponent fears most, do it.


Actually, generally we tend to 'avoid' those things we fear the most. Palin is just considered an easy target due to the things she says and the things she does.

Easy targets tend to get swarmed.
 
2011-05-29 01:45:46 PM  

WTF Indeed: Infernalist: Except, from what I've seen, the GOP and the Teaderpers are one and the same these days. They've co-opted the local levels of the GOP in Florida, at least. Moderates need not apply.

The GOP is being infested with the derp from the ground up.

The candidates are the same, however the staffers, especially at the national and state levels are still moderates, hell a good number of them happen to be gay. Until the tea party starts getting professional staffers at a high level, the GOP will always be run by the moderates.


Solid point. It would be interesting to see just who the established staffers are coalescing around.

If I were to make a guess? I'd say you'll see her garner her fair share of them, at least until after the official nomination. After that, I imagine they'll find a reason to quit and leave her flailing on the public stage for months.

They won't let her quit. No one's 'ever' quit the nomination after it was given to them. They'll force her to finish it to the bitter end. And like a child forced to smoke a pack of cigs after being caught puffing on dad's cigarettes, she'll be sick of politics for the rest of her life.
 
2011-05-29 02:06:01 PM  

SkinnyHead: "I've never seen anyone as mercilessly attacked and relentlessly attacked as I have seen Sarah Palin in the last couple of years," McCain said.

Those merciless and relentless liberal attacks show that Palin is the one they fear most. That's why she should run. When you find out what your opponent fears most, do it.


Absolutely. She should run. No question. She should go on the attack against her primary opponents RIGHT NOW.
She should also pick someone seriously edgy as her running mate. Someone who will shake things up a bit in Washington. Hmm. Who to choose...

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2011-05-29 02:06:30 PM  

Infernalist: They've co-opted the local levels of the GOP in Florida, at least. Moderates need not apply.


True enough. Our last governor was one of the last true prominent Republicans in the country, and the GOP drove him out of the party.
 
2011-05-29 02:07:05 PM  
true prominent "moderate" Republicans, I mean. Charlie Crist wasn't perfect, but he was definitely no Teabagger.
 
2011-05-29 02:09:00 PM  

Confabulat: true prominent "moderate" Republicans, I mean. Charlie Crist wasn't perfect, but he was definitely no Teabagger.


Crist was a sane man. We now have to live with Gov. Voldemort. Yes, I said his name, I'm not afraid.

/oh god this state sucks.
 
2011-05-29 02:17:52 PM  

Infernalist: Confabulat: true prominent "moderate" Republicans, I mean. Charlie Crist wasn't perfect, but he was definitely no Teabagger.

Crist was a sane man. We now have to live with Gov. Voldemort. Yes, I said his name, I'm not afraid.

/oh god this state sucks.


Wanna move to Texas? Everything sucks more here.
 
2011-05-29 02:20:20 PM  

simplicimus: Infernalist: Confabulat: true prominent "moderate" Republicans, I mean. Charlie Crist wasn't perfect, but he was definitely no Teabagger.

Crist was a sane man. We now have to live with Gov. Voldemort. Yes, I said his name, I'm not afraid.

/oh god this state sucks.

Wanna move to Texas? Everything sucks more here.


I came 'from' Texas. I'm thinking of Washington state. It can't be any worse than Florida.
 
2011-05-29 02:26:47 PM  

Infernalist: simplicimus: Infernalist: Confabulat: true prominent "moderate" Republicans, I mean.
/oh god this state sucks.

Wanna move to Texas? Everything sucks more here.

I came 'from' Texas. I'm thinking of Washington state. It can't be any worse than Florida.

Washington state is nice, if you can live without the bright ball in the sky most of the time. Guy I knew at Microsoft said they had a 50% washout rate on new hires because either the hire or spouse couldn't stand the climate.
 
2011-05-29 02:57:52 PM  
Infernalist: I came 'from' Texas. I'm thinking of Washington state. It can't be any worse than Florida.

I'd say come to Pennsylvania, but we just elected Tom Corbett, and I'm betting that before the year is out, we'll see him reach Scott Walker level evilness.
 
2011-05-29 03:56:23 PM  

WTF Indeed: This is John McCain's final "F*ck you" to the party that made him support torture to be able to run for President.


I'm in this school of thought. McCain sold himself out because he was greedy not stupid. Then he got shiat on by his own. I can view his endorsement of Palin as an old-school military guy setting the stage for an epic troll on the GOPbaggers that dumped on him.
 
2011-05-29 04:26:57 PM  

propasaurus: snocone: What exactly is the deal 'tween McCain and Palin?
He has toasted his entire career endorsing this loser.
Should have left her to stew in the mess she made in Alaska.

He has to double down on his stupid bet.


Yup, he's a Republican, learning from mistakes is a sign of weakness and not allowed.
 
2011-05-29 04:28:28 PM  

SkinnyHead: "I've never seen anyone as mercilessly attacked and relentlessly attacked as I have seen Sarah Palin in the last couple of years," McCain said.

Those merciless and relentless liberal attacks show that Palin is the one they fear most. That's why she should run. When you find out what your opponent fears most, do it.


Anything, anything, B'rer Fox.....but please don't you throw me into that briar patch!
 
2011-05-29 04:36:29 PM  

SkinnyHead: "I've never seen anyone as mercilessly attacked and relentlessly attacked as I have seen Sarah Palin in the last couple of years," McCain said.

Those merciless and relentless liberal attacks show that Palin is the one they fear most. That's why she should run. When you find out what your opponent fears most, do it.


When a cobra is hissing at you, you should pick it up and cuddle with it because it's craving love.
 
2011-05-29 04:38:31 PM  

SkinnyHead: "I've never seen anyone as mercilessly attacked and relentlessly attacked as I have seen Sarah Palin in the last couple of years," McCain said.

Those merciless and relentless liberal attacks show that Palin is the one they fear most. That's why she should run. When you find out what your opponent fears most, do it.


Well, you've been SO right about everything else you've said, so you must be right about this, too.
 
2011-05-29 04:38:42 PM  
And "of course", I could down an entire bottle of tequila in an hour, then go win the Indy 500.

not gonna happen John.
 
2011-05-29 05:00:05 PM  

snocone: What exactly is the deal 'tween McCain and Palin?
He has toasted his entire career endorsing this loser.
Should have left her to stew in the mess she made in Alaska.


I believe that John McCain still owes the Devil part of his soul from that offer he took up in 2008 and this is how he is making payment.
 
2011-05-29 05:03:16 PM  

Infernalist: simplicimus: Infernalist: Confabulat: true prominent "moderate" Republicans, I mean. Charlie Crist wasn't perfect, but he was definitely no Teabagger.

Crist was a sane man. We now have to live with Gov. Voldemort. Yes, I said his name, I'm not afraid.

/oh god this state sucks.

Wanna move to Texas? Everything sucks more here.

I came 'from' Texas. I'm thinking of Washington state. It can't be any worse than Florida.


I think Wisconsin just beat you both.
 
2011-05-29 05:15:29 PM  
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2011-05-29 05:16:02 PM  

snocone: What exactly is the deal 'tween McCain and Palin?
He has toasted his entire career endorsing this loser.
Should have left her to stew in the mess she made in Alaska.


Probably that every other Republican politician is much like her. the only difference is the only difference McCain himself sees: no other politician has so much media scrutiny or criticism for what they do. The implications of McCain' statement are rather jaw-dropping. it suggests that everyone is like her, but she's the only on the media publicize.
 
2011-05-29 05:16:05 PM  

SkinnyHead: "I've never seen anyone as mercilessly attacked and relentlessly attacked as I have seen Sarah Palin in the last couple of years," McCain said.

Those merciless and relentless liberal attacks show that Palin is the one they fear most. That's why she should run. When you find out what your opponent fears most, do it.


s3.amazonaws.com
 
2011-05-29 05:16:22 PM  

snocone: What exactly is the deal 'tween McCain and Palin?
He has toasted his entire career endorsing this loser.
Should have left her to stew in the mess she made in Alaska.


"Flyboy" McCain, is intimately familiar with the concept of "kamikaze". He's never forgiven Rove and Bush and their filthy "illegitimate black love child" attack for destroying his chances in 2000, when the presidency would have been his-and worth having (A budget surplus, a country at peace, etc etc).

But the took that from him, and as a consolation prize offered him the shiat sandwich that was the presidency in 2008, and that only if he kowtowed and kissed Rove's ring. So he pretended to play along, played to good soldier until he was in position to do maximum damage, and then unleashed Palin and her brand of vacuous slogan driven conservatism on the GOP, knowing it would be a generation at least before the party recovered.
 
2011-05-29 05:22:19 PM  
"I've never seen anyone as mercilessly attacked and relentlessly attacked as I have seen Sarah Palin in the last couple of years," McCain said.

"Attacked" and "laughed at" aren't quite the same thing, John.
 
2011-05-29 05:25:04 PM  

simplicimus: Infernalist: simplicimus: Infernalist: Confabulat: true prominent "moderate" Republicans, I mean.
/oh god this state sucks.

Wanna move to Texas? Everything sucks more here.

I came 'from' Texas. I'm thinking of Washington state. It can't be any worse than Florida.
Washington state is nice, if you can live without the bright ball in the sky most of the time. Guy I knew at Microsoft said they had a 50% washout rate on new hires because either the hire or spouse couldn't stand the climate.


Only west of the Cascades. The eastern half of Washington State is actually kind of arid. It does tend to still be on the cold side, though- it's almost June, and our daily high temperature is hovering around 60. Plus, it will put you in relatively close proximity to Idaho, which many people find uncomfortable. A lot of the country out here is pretty derpy, but I understand the Tri-Cities region is somewhat civilized.

/Grad student at WSU
//misses the East Coast, and summer
 
2011-05-29 05:28:51 PM  

SkinnyHead: Those merciless and relentless liberal attacks show that Palin is the one they fear most. That's why she should run. When you find out what your opponent fears most, do it.


youre right, the republicans should completely endorse palin. she may not be the smartest candidate, and the liberal media hates her and will dig up all that stuff about her to fit their obviously talking points like tanking the alaskan economy, the bridge to nowhere, rape kits, quitting, jared loughner, those fake ethics violations in alaska, and ask her gotcha questions like what newspapers she reads as if newspapers are relevant anyhow and what supreme court decisions she doesnt like as if the only one that matters is roe v wade to try to hurt her. but she can raise money like no other candidate and she can easily win the nomination. obama would just beat up on her unfairly and be sexist in the debates, so theres no way she can lose there.

and im sure once she gets her message out to the american people free of liberal nonsense like what would happen in 2012 and hasnt happened before, the battleground states which by the way are already in heartland america which is her stronghold anyway, will learn to love her like the rest of real america. the only way she could lose is if the liberal media ramps up the propaganda machine against her and if that happens then its just proof the media has taken over american politics and should be outlawed in the revolution.

this should be the perfect time for the libertarians and the republicans to unite under the tea party banner and get rid of the liberals and democrats once and for all. it probably wont happen that way because of obamas ability to make lots of money off unions and socialists, but its nice to imagine isnt it. though if the economy doesnt improve and the republicans arent allowed to keep the debt ceiling from being raised and passing the ryan budget, obama may be in for a harder fight than he can ever imagine.
 
2011-05-29 05:34:23 PM  

IntarwebzMonster: SkinnyHead: Those merciless and relentless liberal attacks show that Palin is the one they fear most. That's why she should run. When you find out what your opponent fears most, do it.

youre right, the republicans should completely endorse palin. she may not be the smartest candidate, and the liberal media hates her and will dig up all that stuff about her to fit their obviously talking points like tanking the alaskan economy, the bridge to nowhere, rape kits, quitting, jared loughner, those fake ethics violations in alaska, and ask her gotcha questions like what newspapers she reads as if newspapers are relevant anyhow and what supreme court decisions she doesnt like as if the only one that matters is roe v wade to try to hurt her. but she can raise money like no other candidate and she can easily win the nomination. obama would just beat up on her unfairly and be sexist in the debates, so theres no way she can lose there.

and im sure once she gets her message out to the american people free of liberal nonsense like what would happen in 2012 and hasnt happened before, the battleground states which by the way are already in heartland america which is her stronghold anyway, will learn to love her like the rest of real america. the only way she could lose is if the liberal media ramps up the propaganda machine against her and if that happens then its just proof the media has taken over american politics and should be outlawed in the revolution.

this should be the perfect time for the libertarians and the republicans to unite under the tea party banner and get rid of the liberals and democrats once and for all. it probably wont happen that way because of obamas ability to make lots of money off unions and socialists, but its nice to imagine isnt it. though if the economy doesnt improve and the republicans arent allowed to keep the debt ceiling from being raised and passing the ryan budget, obama may be in for a harder fight than he can ever imagine.


I'd think that was a troll, but then I remembered Republicans think capitalization and punctuation are all a liberal plot to make them look stupid, so I'm guessing you're real.
 
2011-05-29 05:34:57 PM  
There was a recent Atlantic article that lamented how Palin has changed. Once upon a time, for example, she raised taxes on oil companies. If only her ruthlessness could be put to a positive use for the country. Instead, the economy she cares about boosting is her own bank account.
 
2011-05-29 05:35:25 PM  
farm4.static.flickr.com

I can't wait for the whole cult clan to go out on tour.
 
2011-05-29 05:36:12 PM  
Does anyone doubt that if Palin did run, it would be the first campaign conducted entirely via Facebook, Twitter, WND and Fox?
 
2011-05-29 05:36:45 PM  

GreatGlavinsGhost: I can't wait for the whole cult clan to go out on tour.


Not Bristol. She's dating a colored man.
 
2011-05-29 05:38:34 PM  
IntarwebzMonster:


I live with my mom

Well done. Could've used some capitalization and less run-on sentences, which is why I took off one point.
 
2011-05-29 05:39:19 PM  

RoxtarRyan: I live with my mom


Make that 9/10. Hard to type on a phone swinging in a hammock.
 
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