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(Some Sleepy Guy)   If you regularly hit the snooze button and go back to sleep, you're not alone. And you're probably fat   (bodyandsoul.com.au) divider line 95
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2011-05-29 08:07:02 AM
Of course it couldn't be that maybe society expects us to be awake way to farking early.

If we were meant to be up so early we wouldn't need alarm clocks in the first place.
 
2011-05-29 08:30:20 AM
Fat people simply roll on top of the alarm to muffle it.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2011-05-29 08:46:31 AM
There is actually a genetic predisposition and an innate tendency to be either a night person or a morning person

I switched involuntarily from night to morning after I turned 30. I consider today a lazy day because I was still in bed at 6:00.
 
2011-05-29 09:04:08 AM
I have a travel alarm clock. I can change the time zone by sliding a lever on top of the clock. Changing the clock from mountain time to pacific time is my snooze button...

/I need a new alarm clock
//with great power comes responsibility that I can't always handle
 
2011-05-29 09:06:53 AM
I hit the snooze button so I can chew my arm off and leave before the beer goggle beauty next to me wakes up and wants to cuddle.

/You've been there
//Or awoke next to my arm
 
2011-05-29 09:07:01 AM
I wish I could sleep until my alarm. I'm up every morning at 6:30 like clockwork, even if I was at the bar till 2 and didnt hit the pillow till 2:30-3:00... you lucky sobs don't know how good you have it.
 
2011-05-29 09:07:16 AM
I think that the mere fact that I'm actually getting up in time to make and eat breakfast (oatmeal with raisins and a banana) is huge progress.

Up in time for a 5:45 workout session? Hahahahahahahahhahahahahaahahahaa. Not gonna happen. I DO exercise regularly, but after work.
 
2011-05-29 09:08:20 AM
I am not fat and I hit the snooz daily. Your argument is invalid. DNRTFA.
 
2011-05-29 09:09:34 AM

eddyatwork: Of course it couldn't be that maybe society expects us to be awake way to farking early.

If we were meant to be up so early we wouldn't need alarm clocks in the first place.


You were meant to be up early so you could run away from lions.
 
2011-05-29 09:09:43 AM

INeedAName: I wish I could sleep until my alarm. I'm up every morning at 6:30 like clockwork, even if I was at the bar till 2 and didnt hit the pillow till 2:30-3:00... you lucky sobs don't know how good you have it.


Well, I don't go bar-hopping so I'd gladly change with you.

Having a job that starts at 9 rather than 7:30 has helped me transition from night-owl to more conventional hours. The extra hour and a half makes a big difference.
 
2011-05-29 09:09:57 AM
I'm a morning freak I'm up at 4:00 everyday. I'm also a nap freak and expect to be sound asleep in about 26 minutes.
 
2011-05-29 09:10:51 AM

INeedAName: I wish I could sleep until my alarm. I'm up every morning at 6:30 like clockwork, even if I was at the bar till 2 and didnt hit the pillow till 2:30-3:00... you lucky sobs don't know how good you have it.


I don't wake up at the same time every morning, but if I set my alarm, I always wake up about an hour before it goes off, and then I can't sleep that last hour. I hate it, but I can't figure out how to stay asleep until my desired wake-up time.

/Snooze button? What's that?
//Ugh. x_x
 
2011-05-29 09:11:57 AM
you all sound fat. and sleepy.
 
2011-05-29 09:13:23 AM

Wollffeey: if I set my alarm, I always wake up about an hour before it goes off, and then I can't sleep that last hour. I hate it, but I can't figure out how to stay asleep until my desired wake-up time.


Uh, just spit-balling here, but what about setting the alarm for an hour after you actually want to wake up?
 
2011-05-29 09:16:55 AM
Fark off subby *Hits snooze button*

/Not fat
//Probably fitter than you
///Night person
 
2011-05-29 09:17:05 AM
If you use the snooze button, you are an incredible idiot (according to sleep researchers).


Set the damn thing for when you HAVE to be up. Then get up when it goes off. Setting it an hour early and hitting the snooze bar just robs you of an hour's sleep.

Also, you don't really need to stay up till 2 watching tv. Just sayin'.
 
2011-05-29 09:18:13 AM
Hrm, nope. I just have 2 alarms. One gives up every day after an hour. I don't even know if it has a snooze button, I just sleep through both of them. I usually wake up when the first one turns off. Not always though.
 
2011-05-29 09:18:43 AM

ZAZ: There is actually a genetic predisposition and an innate tendency to be either a night person or a morning person

I switched involuntarily from night to morning after I turned 30. I consider today a lazy day because I was still in bed at 6:00.


This. It used to be rare to be in bed before 12, now it's about as rare to be up past 11.
 
2011-05-29 09:19:06 AM
Reputable business shouldn't start until 10 am. Also, don't call me while I'm asleep. I'll pound on the poor alarm clock to make it stop while my husband yells "honey! honey! Its not the alarm -...you've killed it. Its dead. Quit beating it".
 
2011-05-29 09:21:25 AM

Wollffeey: INeedAName: I wish I could sleep until my alarm. I'm up every morning at 6:30 like clockwork, even if I was at the bar till 2 and didnt hit the pillow till 2:30-3:00... you lucky sobs don't know how good you have it.

I don't wake up at the same time every morning, but if I set my alarm, I always wake up about an hour before it goes off, and then I can't sleep that last hour. I hate it, but I can't figure out how to stay asleep until my desired wake-up time.

/Snooze button? What's that?
//Ugh. x_x


I have found that if I tell myself what hour to get up (assuming i need to be up before 6:30) I will wake up within 5-10 mins of it, without an alarm.
 
2011-05-29 09:22:36 AM

ZAZ: There is actually a genetic predisposition and an innate tendency to be either a night person or a morning person

I switched involuntarily from night to morning after I turned 30. I consider today a lazy day because I was still in bed at 6:00.


I went from a night to day person when my son was born. I never thought waking up at 6am would be a late morning for me.
 
2011-05-29 09:27:51 AM

ankmcfly: I hit the snooze button so I can chew my arm off and leave before the beer goggle beauty next to me wakes up and wants to cuddle.

/You've been there
//Or awoke next to my arm


You promised you'd call.
 
2011-05-29 09:30:25 AM

LordOfThePings: Uh, just spit-balling here, but what about setting the alarm for an hour after you actually want to wake up?


No good. My subconscious is on to that. I would end up worrying (in my sleep, mind you) that if I did end up waking up with the alarm (happens rarely, but it does happen) then I would be an hour late.

INeedAName: I have found that if I tell myself what hour to get up (assuming i need to be up before 6:30) I will wake up within 5-10 mins of it, without an alarm.


I've done tried that before, but it's an even worse effect. Since I know that the alarm will not go off, I wake up even earlier and am afraid to fall back asleep for fear of sleeping past my wake-up time. But that really only happens when I have to get up up earlier than normal and need to be out of the house early (college student, so my hours are variable).
 
2011-05-29 09:30:41 AM
My husband hits the snooze at least once (if he works in the morning, it's usually a 0415 alarm 0800 if he has a later shift), and he's skinny as a rail at 6'3" and 150 lbs. Needless to say, he usually needs a nap after his shift ends at 1300. We've both tried to reprogram, now, on weekends, we tend to get up no later than 0830, but that's as far as we can get into being "morning people".

/somehow has learned to sleep through his 0415 alarms
//my own at 0615 still sucks
///night owl
////need moar kaufee slashie
 
2011-05-29 09:32:17 AM
4.bp.blogspot.com

used to use an alarm clock before i got one of these...i slap her on the head, but she doesn't snooze.
 
2011-05-29 09:33:11 AM
I don't need an alarm.. it's built in, like Kramer. The only clock in my house is on my kitchen stove.
 
2011-05-29 09:36:20 AM
The weird thing about the snooze button for me is that I'll hit it, fall back asleep, have amazing dreams, and then be woken up by the damn alarm again five minutes later. I love that little snooze button dream state because of how vivid those dreams are. I'll usually hit snooze two or three times, and then be awake.
 
2011-05-29 09:36:21 AM
I specifically plan my morning routine around hitting the snooze button 4 or 5 times. The first few times I hit it are pretty much while still in my sleep and the last few are me trying to desperately hold on to the final remnants of my slumber. Even my dog knows not to wake me before the fourth snooze, otherwise I'm not a happy camper.

/not fat
//have weird dreams between snooze hits though
 
2011-05-29 09:38:09 AM
I have to get up in the morning so I set my alarm and it gets me up. I usually hit the snooze button. I used to stay out late when I was younger, and I slept later. Now I have a job, and I'm older, so I don't stay up as late, and I get up earlier. I know people who have trouble sleeping, and other people who don't. I know fat people and people who aren't fat. I know people who get up early and other people who stay out late.

/are we done here?
//i know people who are cranky in the morning, too
 
2011-05-29 09:43:40 AM
On a workday? No. Weekends? Hell, yeah.
 
2011-05-29 09:49:21 AM

John Buck 41: On a workday? No. Weekends? Hell, yeah.


Who sets the alarm on a weekend?

I'm with the "can't sleep past 6:30" people. My body clock is way too precise. I can even lay down for a nap and tell myself it needs to be 25 minutes, and I wake up in 24. If I do use an alarm clock, like if I have to catch an early flight, I still wake up 2-3 minutes before it goes off.
 
2011-05-29 09:49:52 AM
Never really minded getting UP early. It's going TO bed early that I farking despise.

//night person
 
2011-05-29 09:54:01 AM

blueviking: My husband hits the snooze at least once (if he works in the morning, it's usually a 0415 alarm 0800 if he has a later shift), and he's skinny as a rail at 6'3" and 150 lbs. Needless to say, he usually needs a nap after his shift ends at 1300. We've both tried to reprogram, now, on weekends, we tend to get up no later than 0830, but that's as far as we can get into being "morning people".

/somehow has learned to sleep through his 0415 alarms
//my own at 0615 still sucks
///night owl
////need moar kaufee slashie


Stop writing your time like an asshole. We get it, you're an asshole.
 
2011-05-29 09:58:22 AM
Maybe a little off-topic but does anyone else here have extreme trouble re-adjusting to your time zone after going on a long vacation (week+)? I took a trip out west a month ago and still haven't adjusted back. My body just doesn't want to get out of bed until at least 8 am here, which has made me miss an 8 am meeting or two. I hate morning meetings anyways, and make it a point to let the people that schedule them know they are evil bastards.

/used to have a reasonable schedule
 
2011-05-29 09:59:22 AM
For these people that wake up at 5 am or earlier to work out, when do they go to bed? 8 or 9 pm?
 
2011-05-29 09:59:30 AM

gadian: "honey! honey! Its not the alarm -...you've killed it. Its dead. Quit beating it".


[ insert Beavis & Butthead laughter ]
 
2011-05-29 10:00:58 AM
Struggle to get out of bed? ... The fittest people will get moving, says Emily Brabon, director of Original Boot Camp Australia. 'We find the people who come to our 5.45am and 6am classes are a lot fitter than those in our later sessions,' she says.
Yes, solid research from one of the finest peer-reviewed fitness journals, Body+Soul.
 
2011-05-29 10:01:42 AM

John Buck 41: Never really minded getting UP early. It's going TO bed early that I farking despise.

//night person


I hate going to bed because it just means the next day will be here soon.

In my head, that sounded less depressing.
 
2011-05-29 10:03:01 AM
if i could wake up with the girl pictured i'd probably wake up early.

who am i kidding, if i woke up with her she'd scream and call the police.
 
2011-05-29 10:09:00 AM
I have been falling asleep around 9 or 10am then waking up around 7 or 8pm. Everyday I fall asleep a little later and wake up a little later until I flip back around to being awake during the day and sleeping at night. It is a never ending cycle.
 
2011-05-29 10:10:53 AM

blueviking: My husband hits the snooze at least once (if he works in the morning, it's usually a 0415 alarm 0800 if he has a later shift), and he's skinny as a rail at 6'3" and 150 lbs. Needless to say, he usually needs a nap after his shift ends at 1300. We've both tried to reprogram, now, on weekends, we tend to get up no later than 0830, but that's as far as we can get into being "morning people".

/somehow has learned to sleep through his 0415 alarms
//my own at 0615 still sucks
///night owl
////need moar kaufee slashie


Hey it's you again. Hi. Has your husband ever seen The Machinist?
Great film about a really skinny guy with insomnia.
 
2011-05-29 10:11:38 AM
My snooze alarm is practically built in. I usually wake up around 4:30, go back to sleep, then wake up again a little before the 5:30 (warning) alarm goes off to turn it off. Go back to sleep, then wake up a few minutes before the 6AM alarm goes off. It's rare for me to actually sleep up until the alarm.

The last time I needed an alarm about a year ago, I'd hit snooze two or three times and not worry about it. Since I moved into an apartment some six weeks ago, my subconscious is apparently so conscientious about disturbing my neighbors with my (very loud, which is necessary) alarm that it seems to have developed an internal clock to avoid setting it off.
 
2011-05-29 10:14:22 AM

Smarshmallow: blueviking: My husband hits the snooze at least once (if he works in the morning, it's usually a 0415 alarm 0800 if he has a later shift), and he's skinny as a rail at 6'3" and 150 lbs. Needless to say, he usually needs a nap after his shift ends at 1300. We've both tried to reprogram, now, on weekends, we tend to get up no later than 0830, but that's as far as we can get into being "morning people".

/somehow has learned to sleep through his 0415 alarms
//my own at 0615 still sucks
///night owl
////need moar kaufee slashie

Stop writing your time like an asshole. We get it, you're an asshole.


^-- This. Unless you're military or pilots or otherwise have to deal with a 24hr clock for book keeping reasons, you shouldn't be using 24hr notation. It's 4:15am, 8:00am, 1:00pm or 8:30am. Use the notation the majority of civilization uses, please.
 
2011-05-29 10:16:03 AM

nstoppiello: Smarshmallow: blueviking: My husband hits the snooze at least once (if he works in the morning, it's usually a 0415 alarm 0800 if he has a later shift), and he's skinny as a rail at 6'3" and 150 lbs. Needless to say, he usually needs a nap after his shift ends at 1300. We've both tried to reprogram, now, on weekends, we tend to get up no later than 0830, but that's as far as we can get into being "morning people".

/somehow has learned to sleep through his 0415 alarms
//my own at 0615 still sucks
///night owl
////need moar kaufee slashie

Stop writing your time like an asshole. We get it, you're an asshole.

^-- This. Unless you're military or pilots or otherwise have to deal with a 24hr clock for book keeping reasons, you shouldn't be using 24hr notation. It's 4:15am, 8:00am, 1:00pm or 8:30am. Use the notation the majority of civilization uses, please.


And before someone says 'durr, this country uses this' -- no. I don't care. The places that matter use AM/PM like civilized folk do.
 
2011-05-29 10:18:29 AM
My schedule's varied so I definitely need an alarm clock on the early days. I usually try to set my alarm clock about 1/2 hour earlier, so I will have time for breakfast and have time for my hair to dry before I leave. Most of the time though, I'll end up snoozing for that extra half hour and I'll leave my place hungry with wet hair.
 
2011-05-29 10:25:21 AM
Can someone please tell me why we are still relying on schedules that were designed for an agricultural society? The internet allows people to be productive 24/7. Seriously, it's 2011, not 1811. I have been a night person since I was 8 years old. More than 20 years later, unless I'm sick, drunk, or have been up all night, I am never tired before 4-5am.(I've been up all night in case you're curious why I'm writing this "early.") I endured college, and job after job for a decade and I was always worthless until my 5th or 6th large coffee. I bought an electric alarm that went off for 90 minutes straight unless you turned it off. And every day, I had to set it to go off at literally the last possible second or I'd walk over, turn it off, and go back to bed. Finally I realized that I was going to have to work a certain schedule if I was going to do anything productive with my life. Since I have accepted the fact that I have to work nights, I have been able to find a great job, and things are finally looking up. So can we PLEASE understand that people will be most productive on their own schedule, and let them work it? Unless your business is closed in the evenings(like breakfast only restaurants) there's no reason to require people to work during the morning if they don't want to.

/csb
//btw: I HATE when morning people call me when they know I'm asleep. They seem to assume it's ok to wake me up, yet they'd be quite offended if I called them at 3:00am "just to chat."
 
2011-05-29 10:26:13 AM

Smarshmallow: Stop writing your time like an asshole. We get it, you're an asshole.


My writing in military time is really affecting you that much? Wow, hit the snooze again.

Lipspinach: Hey it's you again. Hi. Has your husband ever seen The Machinist?
Great film about a really skinny guy with insomnia.


No, I've been curious about it, it seems wonderfully twisted, but I doubt that it would be his cup of tea and he's the one with the Netflix account.
 
2011-05-29 10:28:49 AM
I use military time all the time now, ever since I worked for 3 retired Navy guys. All the clocks in the house are set that way, microwave too. Drives my husband nuts. But with normal folk I always speak in am/pm.
 
2011-05-29 10:29:39 AM

nstoppiello: ^-- This. Unless you're military or pilots or otherwise have to deal with a 24hr clock for book keeping reasons, you shouldn't be using 24hr notation. It's 4:15am, 8:00am, 1:00pm or 8:30am. Use the notation the majority of civilization uses, please.

And before someone says 'durr, this country uses this' -- no. I don't care. The places that matter use AM/PM like civilized folk do.


I work for law enforcement and that is the only time that's accepted in reports.
 
2011-05-29 10:29:48 AM

blueviking: ...shift ends at 1300... my own at 0615 still sucks


Smarshmallow: Stop writing your time like an asshole. We get it, you're an asshole.


nstoppiello: And before someone says 'durr, this country uses this' -- no. I don't care. The places that matter use AM/PM like civilized folk do.


durr, a lot of people DO work in places where the 24hr clock is used. aside from military and pilots you also have medical fields, IT fields, some police use it, basically anybody in a field that DOESN'T run 9-5 will probably have to deal with it. Maybe you should think of civility as the x-axis and the percent of people using 12hr clocks as the y axis. It's a bell curve.

/Worked night shift in a biomed that ran 24 hours
//changed workplaces a year ago to this am/pm nonsense
///still have most of my clocks set to 24
//felt a pants stirring at a woman using it so freely
/rly
 
2011-05-29 10:33:56 AM
I don't sleep
 
2011-05-29 10:37:44 AM

blueviking: Smarshmallow: Stop writing your time like an asshole. We get it, you're an asshole.

My writing in military time is really affecting you that much? Wow, hit the snooze again.

Lipspinach: Hey it's you again. Hi. Has your husband ever seen The Machinist?
Great film about a really skinny guy with insomnia.

No, I've been curious about it, it seems wonderfully twisted, but I doubt that it would be his cup of tea and he's the one with the Netflix account.


Too bad, it's a great film. I watched it again last night. It is really twisted.
 
2011-05-29 10:38:51 AM
I'm up with the first beep. What is this snooze button of which you speak? I got shiat to do literally 10 minutes after getting up. Sleeping day/working nights will do that. Another result of that is I can't sleep longer than 6 hours at a time. Really messes up my days off. Oh and I'm not fat.
 
2011-05-29 10:41:49 AM

Mi-go amigo: Struggle to get out of bed? ... The fittest people will get moving, says Emily Brabon, director of Original Boot Camp Australia. 'We find the people who come to our 5.45am and 6am classes are a lot fitter than those in our later sessions,' she says.
Yes, solid research from one of the finest peer-reviewed fitness journals, Body+Soul.


That was what I was thinking. Correlation does not equal causation nor it does it equal reality to late risers. When I had a gym membership and working until 1pm there were very few midday classes. Plenty early morning and evening but nothing midday that fit my work routine.

One of my coworkers use to get off at 5 so she could easily go the gym at 5:45 or 6 and get to those classes. I wondered if they asked the class goers any questions other than assuming if you are up at 5:45 -6 am you are an early riser.
 
2011-05-29 10:43:14 AM
farking hate fat boot camps. They fill up the parking lots around the parks 4 months a year standing around guzzling water between their 5 minute workouts... now I have to get up at 4:45a
 
2011-05-29 10:43:40 AM
For those that need waking up (new window).

Also, I usually keep two sets of alarms. One I keep on the nightstand, the other I usually put it in a place that takes effort to reach. If one doesn't wake me the other does at 15 minutes later and with the soothing voice of Tom Araya and a few others (new window) with all the volume up.

/Wakes the other tenants, too
 
2011-05-29 10:44:38 AM
First step in becoming a morning person:

Waking up next to this:

cdn.vogue.com.au
 
2011-05-29 10:44:48 AM

blueviking: nstoppiello: ^-- This. Unless you're military or pilots or otherwise have to deal with a 24hr clock for book keeping reasons, you shouldn't be using 24hr notation. It's 4:15am, 8:00am, 1:00pm or 8:30am. Use the notation the majority of civilization uses, please.

And before someone says 'durr, this country uses this' -- no. I don't care. The places that matter use AM/PM like civilized folk do.

I work for law enforcement and that is the only time that's accepted in reports.


Like I said - civilized folk.

ThatGuyOverThere: blueviking: ...shift ends at 1300... my own at 0615 still sucks

Smarshmallow: Stop writing your time like an asshole. We get it, you're an asshole.

nstoppiello: And before someone says 'durr, this country uses this' -- no. I don't care. The places that matter use AM/PM like civilized folk do.

durr, a lot of people DO work in places where the 24hr clock is used. aside from military and pilots you also have medical fields, IT fields, some police use it, basically anybody in a field that DOESN'T run 9-5 will probably have to deal with it. Maybe you should think of civility as the x-axis and the percent of people using 12hr clocks as the y axis. It's a bell curve.

/Worked night shift in a biomed that ran 24 hours
//changed workplaces a year ago to this am/pm nonsense
///still have most of my clocks set to 24
//felt a pants stirring at a woman using it so freely
/rly


Having worked at the IT department of a relatively large hospital, I'm just going to have to go ahead and tell you that you're wrong.

/This is easier than I thought.
 
2011-05-29 10:46:06 AM

nstoppiello: ^-- This. Unless you're military or pilots or otherwise have to deal with a 24hr clock for book keeping reasons, you shouldn't be using 24hr notation. It's 4:15am, 8:00am, 1:00pm or 8:30am. Use the notation the majority of civilization uses, please.


You seem to have confused "the majority of civilization" with "North America and sometimes Britain." A common problem in the US. And of course, note the many, many exceptions in the US.

/I usually write it as 13:15 etc, which is more common in Europe, but the exceptions noted in the US--scientists are another one!--usually use 1315.
 
2011-05-29 10:47:18 AM

Lipspinach: blueviking: Smarshmallow: Stop writing your time like an asshole. We get it, you're an asshole.

My writing in military time is really affecting you that much? Wow, hit the snooze again.

Lipspinach: Hey it's you again. Hi. Has your husband ever seen The Machinist?
Great film about a really skinny guy with insomnia.

No, I've been curious about it, it seems wonderfully twisted, but I doubt that it would be his cup of tea and he's the one with the Netflix account.

Too bad, it's a great film. I watched it again last night. It is really twisted.


Something on the Memento level? Or are we talking Saw, more like?
 
2011-05-29 10:48:02 AM
Also, architects don't sleep, they freakin' hibernate.

/Sleeping's for the weak
//Must. Finish. Electrical Installations
//Hatch, hatch. offset, offset, offset. Dir, Scale, plot
 
2011-05-29 10:49:08 AM

CygnusDarius: For those that need waking up (new window).


first time that little thing rolled under my bed would be the last time it ever got used.
 
2011-05-29 10:51:06 AM

Troy McClure: For these people that wake up at 5 am or earlier to work out, when do they go to bed? 8 or 9 pm?


Since you asked, I get up at around 5-515 three days a week to go the gym and I normally go to bed between 930 to 10 those nights. The other 2 days of the workweek, I get up around 6, and go to bed around 11. So, I pretty much adjust my bed time so that I get about 7-7.5 hours of sleep a night.

I've found 7 hours is generally good for me. I sleep well and fall asleep quickly too, so I could see how that would be difficult if you're a restless sleeper or don't get to sleep quickly.
 
2011-05-29 10:53:55 AM
If you regularly hit the snooze button and go back to sleep, you're not alone. And you're probably fat

If by "snooze button" you mean your mom, then I probably am fat.
 
2011-05-29 10:57:28 AM
I try to leave the alarm radio on a morning show at a gentle volume and wait for something humorous to chucle me awake. No snooze bar. This or set up a tune at a decent volume that starts low and builds. 'Shine on you crazy diamond' is excellent for this and leaves me in good spirits for the morning.

/remeber when you were young?
 
2011-05-29 11:16:57 AM

uprislng: John Buck 41: Never really minded getting UP early. It's going TO bed early that I farking despise.

//night person

I hate going to bed because it just means the next day will be here soon.

In my head, that sounded less depressing.


Unfortunately, I'm with you all the way there. I'm like a little kid - the day's not allowed to end, because that means play time is over and a work day is ready to start. I'm getting worse these days too.

/asleep around 3:00 - 3:30
//wake up around 7:30 - 8:00.
///If I wake up
////Full volume Opeth has stopped working lately
//High-five for depression
 
2011-05-29 11:18:05 AM

blueviking: Lipspinach: blueviking: Smarshmallow: Stop writing your time like an asshole. We get it, you're an asshole.

My writing in military time is really affecting you that much? Wow, hit the snooze again.

Lipspinach: Hey it's you again. Hi. Has your husband ever seen The Machinist?
Great film about a really skinny guy with insomnia.

No, I've been curious about it, it seems wonderfully twisted, but I doubt that it would be his cup of tea and he's the one with the Netflix account.

Too bad, it's a great film. I watched it again last night. It is really twisted.

Something on the Memento level? Or are we talking Saw, more like?


Ha! Nothing like Saw. Very much like Memento. Actually some striking similarities.. But same director, so.....
Well worth watching.
 
2011-05-29 11:26:15 AM
I get up an hour early to take my Ritalin and then back to sleep. No snooze alarm needed after that.
 
2011-05-29 11:33:03 AM
Either they are taking quotes from Gerard Kennedy out of context, or he's lost his noodle. He's not even really an expert in circadian rhythm; I suppose he was the nearest handy sleep researcher.

The reason that people hit the snooze button has nothing to do with sleep inertia or laziness. It's merely that your sleep schedule has not synced to your alarm clock time; essentially, you are still in a relatively deep sleep. If you dream after hitting the snooze button, you know what I'm talking about. Using snooze allows you to use the first alarm as a pre-alarm; it starts your brain and body into the motions to move to more aware/awake stages of sleep, and ultimately to wake up. There's a great degree of difference in individuals; some people legitimately need an hour to wake up, just as some of us need an hour to get to sleep.

If you get an alarm (or you have a smartphone w/ software) that will test your wakefulness and wake you up when you are in a relatively shallow sleep, you should find getting up a bit easier. I found that a few months of this actually retrained me, and I now get up between 6:30 and 7:00 every morning.

The notion that the average or norm is two weeks to adjust to a new sleep/wake schedule is ridiculous. Two weeks is the minimum for anyone not between the ages of 21 and 25.
 
2011-05-29 11:41:46 AM
Like some others here im pretty lucky not to have a job where i have a supervisor waiting to clock me in at 0 dark thirty. I pretty much get to make my own schedule, from working late to leaving early.

Still, it sucks to come in at 9 a.m. and see a voicemail from the president of the company from 7 a.m. Boss will just have to accept not everyone's a morning person.
 
2011-05-29 11:43:29 AM

rel-yo: Can someone please tell me why we are still relying on schedules that were designed for an agricultural society? The internet allows people to be productive 24/7. Seriously, it's 2011, not 1811. I have been a night person since I was 8 years old. More than 20 years later, unless I'm sick, drunk, or have been up all night, I am never tired before 4-5am.(I've been up all night in case you're curious why I'm writing this "early.") I endured college, and job after job for a decade and I was always worthless until my 5th or 6th large coffee. I bought an electric alarm that went off for 90 minutes straight unless you turned it off. And every day, I had to set it to go off at literally the last possible second or I'd walk over, turn it off, and go back to bed. Finally I realized that I was going to have to work a certain schedule if I was going to do anything productive with my life. Since I have accepted the fact that I have to work nights, I have been able to find a great job, and things are finally looking up. So can we PLEASE understand that people will be most productive on their own schedule, and let them work it? Unless your business is closed in the evenings(like breakfast only restaurants) there's no reason to require people to work during the morning if they don't want to.

/csb
//btw: I HATE when morning people call me when they know I'm asleep. They seem to assume it's ok to wake me up, yet they'd be quite offended if I called them at 3:00am "just to chat."


The majority of businesses deal with people interacting with others during regular hours. There are jobs out there like possibily software enginnering or design where as a geek you can work on a project at your leisure and just turn the darn thing in. As a business, you can lose productivity if you have some deal-closer who decides he wants to work 2pm-10am and right as he's getting to work the rest of the real world is leaving.

I have held all sorts of schedules in my life - from the college years of never going to sleep before 2am and having the Impossible-to-attend 8:30 classes to a 2nd shift job where I worked 11am-10pm and my current job which is about 45 hours in a week in bits, pieces and chunks at no particular regularity.

But there's jobs out there for you - the rest of us would rather be home at 10pm though, just sayin'
 
2011-05-29 11:52:34 AM
Possibly interesting observation (but possibly not)

I have discovered that if I wake up and don't immediately get up and out of bed - instead opting to lay around in that twilight zone for awhile - I spend the day very depressed. Don't know why, but it's true for me.

Maybe it has a connection to this study, somehow. (shrug)
 
2011-05-29 12:07:45 PM
Having a job where I switch several times during the week between opening (wake at 415) and closing (bed no earlier than 12), it's really friggin hard to program my body to wake or sleep at decent times. Luckily the unbearable stress on my subconcious and body has led me to melt away the little excess weight I had. Also all the times I keep getting the flu from such schedules probably helps the weight loss. Chaotic scheduling: Best. Diet plan. Evar. Ugh.
 
2011-05-29 12:07:53 PM
Does anyone know why the snooze is only 9 minutes, instead of an even 10? Every alarm clock I have had only has a 9 minute snooze.
 
2011-05-29 12:09:24 PM
TFA: "When you do a vigorous session in the morning, your metabolism is raised post-exercise for up to 12 hours, which is going to make you more efficient at utilising stored fat," says exercise physiologist Dr Jarrod Meerkin.

"At night your metabolism drops, so you are not going to gain the same benefits you would expect to achieve exercising at night as you would in the morning."

That logic is hard to argue with...


ORLY?

So if you exercise at night, metabolism is not raised? That is not suggested here, just a false equivalency that implies it. It would be a little hard to believe.

Maybe exercise at night doesn't raise metabolism as much or as long as doing it in the morning. But if that were the case, I would think a doctor would recognize that as the important information and express it clearly.

FWIW, I exercise at the same time every day. In 26 minutes, obviously.
 
2011-05-29 12:09:34 PM
Oh, and such scheduling means I hit the snooze at least 5 or 6 times. My SO is just about ready to take a knife to it, I'd imagine.
 
2011-05-29 12:21:14 PM

Onkel Buck: Does anyone know why the snooze is only 9 minutes, instead of an even 10? Every alarm clock I have had only has a 9 minute snooze.


Often wondered that myself.

//no relation to Onkel Buck
 
2011-05-29 12:28:35 PM

John Buck 41: Onkel Buck: Does anyone know why the snooze is only 9 minutes, instead of an even 10? Every alarm clock I have had only has a 9 minute snooze.

Often wondered that myself.

//no relation to Onkel Buck


Plausible.... (new window)
 
2011-05-29 12:28:45 PM

Onkel Buck: Does anyone know why the snooze is only 9 minutes, instead of an even 10? Every alarm clock I have had only has a 9 minute snooze.


Because of inaccurate gearing.

Straight Dope
 
2011-05-29 12:31:06 PM
Snooze alarm? My first class doesn't start till 9:30.

/College student.
//Can sleep till noon most days.
///Your jealousy is like sweet wine.
 
2011-05-29 12:35:40 PM
Couldn't have anything to do with most of your horrible diets loaded with high glycemic index foods and no exercise. Nope, let's just blame your genetic predisposition.

You guys want to sleep better, lose weight and gain muscle? Eat protein, a lot of it and minimize carbs (don't cut them out entirely). Forget working out, you need to get your diet in order first.
 
2011-05-29 12:42:48 PM

eddyatwork: Of course it couldn't be that maybe society expects us to be awake way to farking early.

If we were meant to be up so early we wouldn't need alarm clocks in the first place.


Obvious, but you're attacking the wrong side. Social structure has begun to dictate being awake later at night in our teens, twenties.

Your body doesn't want to sleep more than it needs, but both being inactive (see: fat, destroyed inspiration, spirit) and staying up late will contribute to sleeping later.
 
2011-05-29 01:03:03 PM

Troy McClure: For these people that wake up at 5 am or earlier to work out, when do they go to bed? 8 or 9 pm?


I used to wake up at 5 to get to work at 6 and I would usually stay up until 10-11 on two nights and go to bed early at 8:30 on two other nights.

Now I get up at 7 every single day. I am one of those people who doesn't need an alarm clock. My phone is set on vibrate only on my desk and that wakes me up if needed. Usually my boyfriend's loud snoring wakes me up!
 
2011-05-29 01:03:30 PM
Waking up early is a biatch, but try working till 0700 in the morning on a regular basis. That will really screw you up. Even better, try switching between day to night shift once or twice a week.
 
2011-05-29 01:10:52 PM

wyltoknow: Having a job where I switch several times during the week between opening (wake at 415) and closing (bed no earlier than 12), it's really friggin hard to program my body to wake or sleep at decent times. Luckily the unbearable stress on my subconcious and body has led me to melt away the little excess weight I had. Also all the times I keep getting the flu from such schedules probably helps the weight loss. Chaotic scheduling: Best. Diet plan. Evar. Ugh.



I find it to make it worse, but it depends on what kind of chaos. Once or twice a week spend over 24 hours awake, the body starts craving food to keep the metabolism up and so calories per day rises. Then, other days have excessive sleeping to recover, causing long periods of inactivity. This caused me to gain at least 20 pounds of fat in about a years time.
 
2011-05-29 01:20:22 PM
Dammit how true is that. Anything else you can predict for me subby?
You're good
 
2011-05-29 03:01:17 PM

Onkel Buck: Does anyone know why the snooze is only 9 minutes, instead of an even 10? Every alarm clock I have had only has a 9 minute snooze.


A power-on triggered monostable circuit with the ubiquitous NE555 (new window) integrated circuit chip can count up a maximum amount of clock cycles before reset. by changing a resistor value on the input you can change the length of time between reset but 10 minutes was really impractical to acheive at least for consistant reliablity in mass manufacturing so 9 was settled on as a standard. The period could be dramatically extended If they daisy-chained using a double chip, which is the NE556 but the alarm clock would cost an addition 50 cents to manufacture. That's my understanding. I can't come up with any board meeting minutes but there is a pretty good overview of the circuit design and it's limitations here (new window)

The more you know

I usually don't butt heads with Cecil Adams but in this case I think the straight dope is off the mark.
 
2011-05-29 03:59:44 PM
More anti-night owl propaganda. If I could wake up at 5 am and go work out I would. Its IMPOSSIBLE. I am not really functional before 12 noon. I am most productive between 12-4 am...yet convention demands I spend my most alert and productive hours asleep.

I am the most nocturnal person I know. If you CAN reset your schedule like the person in the article suggests, guess what, you aren't really a night owl anyway. I have tried to reset my schedule many times by following the advice in the article (morning sun, exercise, etc) to no avail. I hate having to conform to someone elses schedule..how would you early birds like it if the workday started at 8 pm?
 
2011-05-29 09:01:08 PM
The only way I can wake up without hitting snooze is if I have to wake up at an obscene time like 3:45. Like tomorrow. I get too freaked out that I'm going to oversleep. If I have to wake up at a more normal early time I hit snooze like 20 times.

I do miss being a night owl. Theme parks + animals = no sleep during work weeks and bed too early on weekends :(
 
2011-05-29 11:00:51 PM
If you regularly hit the snooze button and go back to sleep you're not alone. And you're probably fat

Safe bet.
 
2011-05-30 12:28:33 AM

rel-yo: Can someone please tell me why we are still relying on schedules that were designed for an agricultural society? The internet allows people to be productive 24/7. Seriously, it's 2011, not 1811. I have been a night person since I was 8 years old. More than 20 years later, unless I'm sick, drunk, or have been up all night, I am never tired before 4-5am.(I've been up all night in case you're curious why I'm writing this "early.") I endured college, and job after job for a decade and I was always worthless until my 5th or 6th large coffee. I bought an electric alarm that went off for 90 minutes straight unless you turned it off. And every day, I had to set it to go off at literally the last possible second or I'd walk over, turn it off, and go back to bed. Finally I realized that I was going to have to work a certain schedule if I was going to do anything productive with my life. Since I have accepted the fact that I have to work nights, I have been able to find a great job, and things are finally looking up. So can we PLEASE understand that people will be most productive on their own schedule, and let them work it? Unless your business is closed in the evenings(like breakfast only restaurants) there's no reason to require people to work during the morning if they don't want to.

/csb
//btw: I HATE when morning people call me when they know I'm asleep. They seem to assume it's ok to wake me up, yet they'd be quite offended if I called them at 3:00am "just to chat."


So much THIS. I have had insomnia since I was a child. I am 100% a night person. I love my job, but many times in the Winter when I have to be there at 6 AM, I've actually had no sleep at all.

People that have no sleep issues should shut the hell up on this one.

Every sleep problem can't be fixed by "cutesy" uninformed theoretical medically unfounded cheerleader bullshiat.

/tired right now
/and yes, I will fight you keke
 
2011-05-30 01:01:37 AM

nstoppiello: blueviking: nstoppiello: ^-- This. Unless you're military or pilots or otherwise have to deal with a 24hr clock for book keeping reasons, you shouldn't be using 24hr notation. It's 4:15am, 8:00am, 1:00pm or 8:30am. Use the notation the majority of civilization uses, please.

And before someone says 'durr, this country uses this' -- no. I don't care. The places that matter use AM/PM like civilized folk do.

I work for law enforcement and that is the only time that's accepted in reports.

Like I said - civilized folk.

ThatGuyOverThere: blueviking: ...shift ends at 1300... my own at 0615 still sucks

Smarshmallow: Stop writing your time like an asshole. We get it, you're an asshole.

nstoppiello: And before someone says 'durr, this country uses this' -- no. I don't care. The places that matter use AM/PM like civilized folk do.

durr, a lot of people DO work in places where the 24hr clock is used. aside from military and pilots you also have medical fields, IT fields, some police use it, basically anybody in a field that DOESN'T run 9-5 will probably have to deal with it. Maybe you should think of civility as the x-axis and the percent of people using 12hr clocks as the y axis. It's a bell curve.

/Worked night shift in a biomed that ran 24 hours
//changed workplaces a year ago to this am/pm nonsense
///still have most of my clocks set to 24
//felt a pants stirring at a woman using it so freely
/rly

Having worked at the IT department of a relatively large hospital, I'm just going to have to go ahead and tell you that you're wrong.

/This is easier than I thought.


No, you're wrong.

/even easier!
 
2011-05-30 01:19:13 AM

What_do_you_want_now: nstoppiello:

Having worked at the IT department of a relatively large hospital, I'm just going to have to go ahead and tell you that you're wrong.

/This is easier than I thought.

No, you're wrong.

/even easier!


img126.imageshack.us
 
2011-05-30 02:01:17 AM

nstoppiello: What_do_you_want_now: nstoppiello:

Having worked at the IT department of a relatively large hospital, I'm just going to have to go ahead and tell you that you're wrong.

/This is easier than I thought.

No, you're wrong.

/even easier!


[lolumadbro.gif]

/Your butthurt, it amuses me
//It's 0100 as I post this
///And it'll probably be 0830 when I wake
 
2011-05-30 02:42:30 AM

What_do_you_want_now: nstoppiello: What_do_you_want_now: nstoppiello:

Having worked at the IT department of a relatively large hospital, I'm just going to have to go ahead and tell you that you're wrong.

/This is easier than I thought.

No, you're wrong.

/even easier!

[lolumadbro.gif]

/Your butthurt, it amuses me
//It's 0100 as I post this
///And it'll probably be 0830 when I wake


I thought the tone of my original post make it pretty clear I was trolling=/
 
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