Yahoo still has email? Huh... learn something every day

Anything would be an improvement. Yahoo email is HORRIBLE. They've got a built in chat feature, and every time you log in the entire top if the screen is covered in chat tabs from spammers. You can turn the chat feature off, but the settings are buried and not intuitive, and then it randomly turns back on every so often.

I hate Yahoo mail, even more that Hotmail.

haters will hate...

I'm still with Yahoo, have been for close to 15 years if not more...

Never a single issue, never needed to bother with anything else.

Works perfectly with my new phone too.

Barely ever have any spam, and what I do get goes in the spam folder 99.9% of the time.

Guess I just don't register to porn sites and such like the haters do.

Sorry but I'll trust Yahoo a lot more than Google for my emails, I just don't like the whole big brother thing that Google projects.

Oh, and when I did try G-mail.. didn't like the interface at all.

Honest Bender: People still use yahoo email?

Why not? It's good for when you need to give someone an email address, and you're pretty sure they're going to just spam you.

I wouldn't use yahoo for anything serious, mind you, but it's great as a throwaway.

Honest Bender: People still use yahoo email?

Sure. I still use it when I need to make a junk account for some registration site with questionable credentials.

Inaditch: They've got a built in chat feature, and every time you log in the entire top if the screen is covered in chat tabs from spammers. You can turn the chat feature off, but the settings are buried and not intuitive, and then it randomly turns back on every so often.

I never did figure out how to turn it off.

imfallen_angel: Sorry but I'll trust Yahoo a lot more than Google for my emails, I just don't like the whole big brother thing that Google projects.

Yeah, surely Yahoo!, with their history of stellar ethics, would never do anything questionable with your email contents.

/spent hundreds of hours manually removing their damn toolbar from student lab stations back when they had no uninstaller

I'm still trying to convert my father to Gmail.

He keeps thinking all those clutterfark of a user-interface is a feature for some reason.

/Has been using his yahoo account for 9 years now, so getting a kick...

imfallen_angel: haters will hate...

I'm still with Yahoo, have been for close to 15 years if not more...

Never a single issue, never needed to bother with anything else.

Works perfectly with my new phone too.

Barely ever have any spam, and what I do get goes in the spam folder 99.9% of the time.

Guess I just don't register to porn sites and such like the haters do.

Sorry but I'll trust Yahoo a lot more than Google for my emails, I just don't like the whole big brother thing that Google projects.

Oh, and when I did try G-mail.. didn't like the interface at all.

This. I've been using Yahoo for a couple of years now and have been using the new email beta for a couple of months. I don't understand the hate. I really prefer the interface to Comcast email and Gmail and have gotten one spam email in the last year.

Fine, I'll be that guy.

Why is this news? Why is this on Fark? Why was this submission approved?

Get the frack off my lawn!

BTW, I use Hotmail and Yahoo for throwaway accounts, so I could not care less about the interface.

blahpers:

Inaditch: They've got a built in chat feature, and every time you log in the entire top if the screen is covered in chat tabs from spammers. You can turn the chat feature off, but the settings are buried and not intuitive, and then it randomly turns back on every so often.

I never did figure out how to turn it off.


Buried? you click "log out" (of messenger)on the top of the page... nothing to it. Again... spammers with friend requests via messenger? I think I've had 2 in the last 6 months if not a full year.

new email version: click the icon to log in and out.

It really makes a difference if you don't get yourself on spammers lists.

blahpers: imfallen_angel: Sorry but I'll trust Yahoo a lot more than Google for my emails, I just don't like the whole big brother thing that Google projects.

Yeah, surely Yahoo!, with their history of stellar ethics, would never do anything questionable with your email contents.

/spent hundreds of hours manually removing their damn toolbar from student lab stations back when they had no uninstaller

As if the Google bar, or the several thousand bars are any better.

Seriously... for those that use bars, I remember the Yahoo one and it was a lot simpler than others, and removing it was simply to uninstall it. I don't remember uninstalling it to be a problem.

The only bars that were problematic where the malware ones.

Old time Yahoo and gmail user here... I prefer FOLDERS.

fark tags.

/fark em.

Honest Bender: People still use yahoo email? And after reading TFA, it doesn't look like they really added much. Want to challenge google? Ok, integrate my email with online document software, my calendar, integrate my chat client, contacts list, and a multitude of other services. Oh, and have it natively integrated into my cell phone.

When you've managed all that... well, you'll still be years behind the curve. Good luck!

And that's not even a third of what I love about gmail. I can't believe people that insist on using crap like hotmail and yahoo and so on. Old stubborn people gonna be old and stubborn though.

Fark Yahoo. Somehow it's all merged with my farking AT@T and no one can tell me how to delete or even access the damn thing. Yahoo sends me to ATT and ATT refers me to yahoo. So I have to take my fat ass to the actual store every month to pay my damn bill. Meanwhile, my old yahoo account is some kind of farking spambot now, but fark me if I know what to do about it.

Yahoo upgrades it email system

Subby, I know the it's/its conundrum is confusing for some people, but you still should take a crack at it instead of resorting to engrish.

Now you get even more "hot teen biatches" in your inbox daily.

But it email system it the best!

I still use Yahoo, had it for...I don't actually know. More than a decade. I also use three other email services, including gmail on a regular basis to handle maybe seven or so addresses. I like to keep my shiat separate.

I opted into the early switch so I've been using this for months and it's running pretty nicely. I've had a lot of problems with yahoo, but it's a free service, what the fark do I care?

They'll do much better when they finally support IMAP like every other civilized email provider.

I gave the new format a try, went back to the old. Told them it was too Hot-maily for me.

/yahoo mail for my medium risk subscriptions for the last 13 years.

Haha yahoo email. I moved away from yahoo years agoo and I moved my GF away from it this year when I saw that you had to pay for a premium account if you wanted to use an external program to access your email.

imfallen_angel: haters will hate...

I'm still with Yahoo, have been for close to 15 years if not more...

Never a single issue, never needed to bother with anything else.

Works perfectly with my new phone too.

Barely ever have any spam, and what I do get goes in the spam folder 99.9% of the time.

Guess I just don't register to porn sites and such like the haters do.

Sorry but I'll trust Yahoo a lot more than Google for my emails, I just don't like the whole big brother thing that Google projects.

Oh, and when I did try G-mail.. didn't like the interface at all.

This. Why do I need to change my email to be with the flavor of the month? I've had mine since 1996. I don't change my home address just because it's not cool anymore.

The new interface does have one problem though(in the last beta I tried a few weeks ago): No option to view only new email or at least select only new email.

I love how they say Gmail is king when Yahoo way more users
/Shiat Hotmail have more than both

I gave up on Yahoo over 3 years ago due to excessive spam. Their spam filters blow. Gmail gets over 99% of it.

imfallen_angel: Buried? you click "log out" (of messenger)on the top of the page... nothing to it.

I'm looking at the interface now. The only "log out"-related option at the top of the page is "Sign out", which signs out of the email program, not simply the overlaid chat. Additionally, this would not permanently disable the problematic chat overlays. I don't think you understood what we were talking about.

imfallen_angel: As if the Google bar, or the several thousand bars are any better.

Seriously... for those that use bars, I remember the Yahoo one and it was a lot simpler than others, and removing it was simply to uninstall it. I don't remember uninstalling it to be a problem.

The only bars that were problematic where the malware ones.

Yahoo!'s bar was malware for a long time, and only slightly less irritating than BonziBuddy. It would install itself without any prompt at all when installing sponsored applications, and for quite some time its uninstaller simply did nothing. It was years before they finally got tired of the bad press, fixed the uninstaller, and started requiring sponsored applications to prompt the user before installing it. By that point we had conjured up a custom script that the client would run to periodically wipe any trace of Yahoo!'s bar (in addition to BonziBuddy, Gator, etc.)

I have yet to see Google's bar do any of these things. As a result, I have yet to see Google's bar at all.

drjekel_mrhyde: I love how they say Gmail is king when Yahoo way more users
/Shiat Hotmail have more than both

Hotmail I can see, but I'd like to see statistics on the percentage of Yahoo!'s "users" that are throwaway accounts.

blahpers: drjekel_mrhyde: I love how they say Gmail is king when Yahoo way more users
/Shiat Hotmail have more than both

Hotmail I can see, but I'd like to see statistics on the percentage of Yahoo!'s "users" that are throwaway accounts.

I won't lie I had like 50 of them

blahpers: I'm looking at the interface now. The only "log out"-related option at the top of the page is "Sign out", which signs out of the email program, not simply the overlaid chat. Additionally, this would not permanently disable the problematic chat overlays. I don't think you understood what we were talking about.

I've switched to the beta, and looking at it now... for the "chat" (messenger), all there is that I can see is that they've changed the messenger interface as part of the left side menu (under folders).

I've switched a while back (to the beta) and from memory (for the old standard non-beta), messenger (chat) was on top next to the log in/out of the email.

Once logged off, I don't remember it turning itself back on by itself when I'd re-logged-in to the email.

I might be missing what you mean, but as far as I can understand you, this is how this sounds to me.

blahpers: Yahoo!'s bar was malware for a long time, and only slightly less irritating than BonziBuddy. It would install itself without any prompt at all when installing sponsored applications, and for quite some time its uninstaller simply did nothing. It was years before they finally got tired of the bad press, fixed the uninstaller, and started requiring sponsored applications to prompt the user before installing it. By that point we had conjured up a custom script that the client would run to periodically wipe any trace of Yahoo!'s bar (in addition to BonziBuddy, Gator, etc.)

I have yet to see Google's bar do any of these things. As a result, I have yet to see Google's bar at all.

I remember the first few years when bars started coming out, that they were all a pain, but for Yahoo's... maybe the first year or so... not enough to be traumatized enough be it to remember that it killed my mother or such.

Google is much younger compared to Yahoo... so it's easy to think that they did it "better" when all they did was come out with their own bar way after everyone worked the kinks out from bars.

But what can I say... sorry if it was that hard for you, I preferred seeing things like that as experience and challenges.

I haven't checked my Yahoo Email accounts in ages now. Guess I'll be transferring anything important to my Gmail one now that they decided to integrate Facebook linking into their accounts.

Not that I really wanted a Gmail account either. Was forced into that when setting up my Android phone. Might as well stick with it as my primary account then.

/just doesn't like email, unfortunately it's a necessary evil

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upright: imfallen_angel: Barely ever have any spam, and what I do get goes in the spam folder 99.9% of the time.

I get a billion metric asstons of spam in my Yahoo mail account every day, much of it landing in my inbox. Other mail services work a lot better in that regard.

As mentioned... if you handed your yahoo email to porn or other sites that sell their lists to spammers, what do you expect.

I haven't even clicked the "empty spam folder" button in about a week.

*looking now*... I have...7 spams in my spam folder, and haven't had a single spam on my inbox in weeks (months?... I can't even remember)

And again... this is a 12-15 year old (if not older) account, which I use for just about everything.

I created a new one for the office when I got my new smartphone... I've yet to receive a single spam in that one.

Spam isn't magical, you need to get yourself on their lists somehow.

imfallen_angel: I remember the first few years when bars started coming out, that they were all a pain, but for Yahoo's... maybe the first year or so... not enough to be traumatized enough be it to remember that it killed my mother or such.

Sorry if I sounded touchy. I was a university lab tech for about 200 stations at the time, and I got really familiar with a lot of malware. The problems with Yahoo!'s bars weren't errors in programming or design. They were deliberate crafted that way. Things only changed when the Yahoo! folks found out that people didn't like things infecting their browsers that required manual tinkering to remove. They don't do that any more, but not because of any sense of decency--it's just not profitable. Google's utilities may have had the advantage of coming in after that mess, but they've done nothing to make me think that they would have crafted similar malware.

blahpers: Google's utilities may have had the advantage of coming in after that mess, but they've done nothing to make me think that they would have crafted similar malware.

Because Google realized you make more money doing data collection behind your back than by pissing people off with overt popups.

In the end, Google benefited from being a non-first gen(or whatever you want to call it) web presence. They designed around the mistakes of their predecessors

imfallen_angel: Spam isn't magical, you need to get yourself on their lists somehow.

Yahoo! mail was fairly well known for having subsets of its member lists "somehow" end up on spam lists without user intervention. They may have shored up their defenses since then, but it can take a long time for a bad reputation to recede.

Hey, there's an idea. I think I'll go make a throwaway and see if it ends up on a spammer list of its own accord. I remember doing this once but losing the account info, so I never got the results of the test.

bhcompy: Because Google realized you make more money doing data collection behind your back than by pissing people off with overt popups.

Yep, but I still think they're the lesser evil. I'm at least aware of Google's ambiguous privacy practices and can mitigate them simply by not putting anything sensitive within their reach. Yahoo!'s practices actively interfered with my PC without my consent, and I find that more loathsome.

I switched to Gmail because my Yahoo account was getting flooded with stupid Nigerian scams and chat invites from bots, even with the spam and security features turned on. My Gmail inbox filters out 99% of spam, so I only see 1 or 2 junk mails once a week, at most.

blahpers: Google's utilities may have had the advantage of coming in after that mess, but they've done nothing to make me think that they would have crafted similar malware.

nah... they just track your every move...


blahpers: imfallen_angel: Spam isn't magical, you need to get yourself on their lists somehow.

Yahoo! mail was fairly well known for having subsets of its member lists "somehow" end up on spam lists without user intervention. They may have shored up their defenses since then, but it can take a long time for a bad reputation to recede.

Hey, there's an idea. I think I'll go make a throwaway and see if it ends up on a spammer list of its own accord. I remember doing this once but losing the account info, so I never got the results of the test.

Go ahead... keep me in touch as I'd love to see how it goes for you.

As I mentioned.. I created an account about a month (or so) ago. So far, (checking it now) nothing... not one.

And it's still in the old version (not the beta.

For the earlier poster about the messenger (chat) thing...

On top of the page, I have the Yahoo logo, my name, the messenger (offline) and then "sign out" of the email.

Again, unless I was to go online with it, it probably would be be back to online when I log in, but if made offline.. it stays offline for me.

blahpers: Yahoo!'s practices actively interfered with my PC without my consent, and I find that more loathsome.

Really?

How? when?

If you're still referencing to 10 years (or so) ago, you need to let it go...

And I remember the Yahoo bar quite fine, and it was one of the few bars that was easy to get rid off, and never impacted any of my systems. I don't remember it actively doing anything.

imfallen_angel: Spam isn't magical, you need to get yourself on their lists somehow.

Nowdays, you can get spam even if you've never ben to a porn site. Some websites use bots that send bulk spam to every conceivable address variant, like a phone auto-dialer ("­b­ob1oo­hayc­om", "b­ob­2oo­haycom", etc). Also, some spammers compile address lists and sell them off to sites.