you know... if a kid is dumb enough to get him/herself killed by getting stuck in the window, i'd rather not have that kid grow up to be old enough to share the road with me, there's enough asshats driving around as it is. Our gene pool could use some chlorination anyway, survival of the fittest.

ASSHATS!!!!

/That is all

What? No feeling for the two or three people who have been strangled by hand cranked windows?
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(Well I guess not)

I just mean: it's not like we'd have to *invent* the safer switches. Europe and Japan have them. So, it's some extra money for not many kids.

But this isn't like 'no smoking in public' or anything else that violates everyone's civil rights.

Common sense says: don't be a farking cheapass and use the best kind of switch available so kids don't get their farking arms chopped off.

Y'all are nuts.

How many more Einsteins will we lose!

23 and counting...

i have to disagree with the people that said that windows that stop are a good idea. heaven forbid you're sitting at a stoplight and some whockjobber tries to grab you through the open window that will not close on his arm so you can drag his drug-fueled self down the highway which is a fitting punishment for being a crackjobber and trying to grab me.

You know, I would agree with you guys about the ridiculousness of this if it weren't for the fact that this problem really wouldn't be that hard to fix. Controls like this are standard in most industries except automotive, and in most countries but ours. Its probably just the US car lobby's control of regulative bodies that keep this from applying to them like it applies to everything elsewhere.

Well, the button for power windows should be placed vertically on the door, not flat down on the handle where your elbow can lay on it.

Once when I was a kid, I was leaning out the window when I accidentally leaned on the button. The window came up and nearly crushed my windpipe.

So, it should be mandatory to make the window button harder to hit, maybe they should be recessed.

Just buy a real car, my 2000 Lexus has windows and sunroof that will open up if something is blocking it.

But I also say that is not the solution, some day parents need to be held accountable for their children and not blame everything on the people/companies that always seem to be doing things to them. For Christ's sake, cares are 1000x safer today than ever before but we have more lawsuits out there today than ever before!!!

sthayashi
"Let's make this thread political. This is why Liberals aren't taken very seriously these days...."

Um call me crazy, but my guess is that your head has been trapped in a couple of power windows and suffered damage, which is why you want to turn this political ?

They knew cars were dangerous...but they refused to outlaw them!

/Think of the art photo models!

God forbid parents to raise children. We need asshat organizations to press the government to raise our children for us.

WOW! Power windows are that strong? I'll have to test this out.

Common sense says: don't be a farking cheapass and use the best kind of switch available so kids don't get their farking arms chopped off.

The switches are already an option, the parents simply have to pay for them. If you can afford a car with power windows, you can afford to pay for the extra switch.

Otherwise, get a car with manual windows.

It's little crap like this that drives up the price of vehicles. A little here, a little there and soon an $8000 car is considered the low end.

Don't they already have switches that make it so that only the driver can mess with the windows?

right. safer cars are a bad idea.

2003-08-19 04:17:20 PM son of secret police


right. safer cars are a bad idea.

No. Mandated crap is a bad idea.

My power windows have a button on the drivers side that DISABLES ALL OF THE OTHER WINDOW CONTROLS!!!

As for windows that automatically stop when something is in the way. How would you be able to do this?



I'm driving down the road with your head stuck in my window. What does it look like I'm doin'?!

still no cure for children

This is horrible!! How can these people ask for cars with safer features? I can't believe the nerve!!

Skinink
Because what would Fark be without a political flame war?

And no, my head has not been caught in a window, I'm just bored. ;-)

I hearby declare that windows should be removed from cars. If they are down, children will get caught in them and die. If they are up, children will overheat and die. Windows are obviously a menace!


NO MORE WINDOWS!
NO MORE WINDOWS!
NO MORE WINDOWS!

"windows that stop closing if something gets in their way"

Riiiight, carjackers will love this.... Funny how we all managed to survive 'til adulthood, isn't it?

From the picture caption:
"Standing behind Fennell is Britt Gates of Anthony, Kan., whose nine-month-old daughter Zoie was killed by an automobile power window."

1) "Zoie"? wtf? The name was unusual enough already?

2) I'd really like to hear how a nine month old was killed by a power window. That implies the only ones involved were the baby and the window. I have two sons age 6 and 10, but am baffled as to how this could have happened. And of course without knowing *anything* about any of the actual 23 deaths, it's not possible to judge whether or not this group's requests will do any good anyway.

3) I would hit both of them. I bet a couple "for the children!" pleas could even get them both in the sack at the same time.

"Many European and Japanese vehicles also have switches that are flush with armrests and must be pulled up to raise the window. Those switches are generally considered more difficult to operate inadvertently than the rocking switches more common in U.S. vehicles."

You people are morons. Switching to this type switch would cost the US auto industry ZERO dollars per vehicle. If it saves a quantifiable number of lives, WHY NOT implement it? Why do we all have to spout off with quasi-Darwinist bullshiat every time somebody wants to require US automakers to quit being so goddam lazy and stupid and use smarter design that makes sense?

My dog used to do this all the time. Have his head out, and step on the window button. suddenely hes dangling by his neck, and youre wondering why hes gone quiet all of a sudden. Funnier than hell.

I had to buy a new garage door for a neighbor because my wife left our 3-year-old son alone in a car, keys in the ignition, in first gear, parking break not set.

That same son, now 15, figured out a way to defeat the window lock on the drivers master panel. On the master panel, with the lock engaged, press up on any passenger window. On the corresponding passenger window, press down. All other windows in the vehicle will now operate freely. (Jeep Grand Cherokee)

skinink
WOMD = Windows of Mass Destruction

MS Windows has already caused Mass Destruction

udo
How much would it cost to build a child-proof car?

$100,000 ?
$500,000 ?

How much could it cost not to child-proof your car??

the "cost" you are referring to is called darwanian evolution... survival of the fittest... or at least death of the least fit

usernumber9
Repetitive Motion Injury. We couldn't have that!

there is no such thing as repetitive motion injury... if there was all males over age 13 would have to get their right arm surgically replaced every 2 years ...fap fap fap... farkers would have to get a replacement every 4-6 months

If you are too dumb to operate a power window, you should not be allowed to drive.

Just bring back those wind-up/down windows. And vinyl.

MAN! I am soooo PISSED right now! Oooo! I'm going to have to mash at LEAST 3 or 4 baby heads in my car windows after I get off today!

... and when I'm done with that it's right over to rubbing out a few kittens... grin...

"The switches are already an option, the parents simply have to pay for them. If you can afford a car with power windows, you can afford to pay for the extra switch."

Exactly why they shouldn't make power windows without the switch. If people want to keep the prices low, just ditch the power windows altogether.

Common sense.

Parents that leave their kids alone and unrestrained in cars are idiots. I used to work at a grocery store and had to go fetch carts. On day this lady driving a full size truck was putting her grocerys in the back and left her kids in the front WITH THE KEYS IN THE IGNITION

Needless to say her son decided it was time to leave without her I guess. He put the truck in gear and crashed into 2 parked cars in the next lane. That would have been funny enough but two little parked cars aren't really enough to stop a truck.

One of the cars the truck hit rolled down and hit another car smashing it against a light pole.

The truck and the other origional car it hit continued on and hit yet 2 more cars.

So the grand total of this stupidity.
1. Slightly srcatched truck
2. 2 cars totaled
3. 2 cars with $1000+ in damages
4. 1 car with ~$500 in damage

Luckily no one was hurt in the whole deal, I just kinda figured the world might have become a better palce if the kid had put the truck in reverse.

soapbox

With all of the issues in the world today, should we really put this much work into a problem that could be alleviated with some parents removing their head from their arse or buying crank windows instead.

/soapbox

WHY CAN'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!?
/Mrs. Lovejoy

LINE NOISE
---Amazed it lived to be 16 and died in its sleep. I always figured that dog would go out in some kind of fireball---

ah yes, to go down in a ball of fire. Firey flaming deathiness.

Many a dog has died such a death. A death that finds us all sooner or later. My dog died in such a manner, as did his father, as did his father before him. A common death for dogs, to go down like a Jap Zero over the Marianas in a cartwheel of smoke and bright orange flame. The one minute, they're sitting on your lap, or fetching the paper, or chasing a cat. Next thing you know, they're screaching balls of flame falling out of the sky at 25000 feet.

*sniff*

brave, brave beasts. God bless em!

You know what's going to happen next, don't you?

Some asshat will leave their kid in the car on a hot day. Kid will die to to extreme heat. Asshat will then sue everyone, because the new controls made it too hard for the kid to lower the windows and cool down.

I don't see the problem. If they do it in Japan and in Europe, why the fark can't they do it here? Oh yeah, because here it's THE ALMIGHTY FARKING DOLLAR that wins. ALL THE TIME.

It wouldn't be so goddam hard for car manufactures to put in different switches.

Or stop making gas guzzling SUV's.

Or stop putting on defective tires.

Or think about saftey instead of profit FOR ONCE.

Hey, guess what? Once again, America is behind Europe and Japan in innovation. The article states that those continents already have dealt with or prevented this problem. It's the retarded car makers here in the U.S. who don't care enough to include this feature. I'm looking at Chevy, GM, Cadillac, and those other groups--the same ones who make the oversized SUVs that everyone is supposed to drive, even if you're single female in her mid 20s in the workforce or if you're an 80-year-old grandfather who is legally blind.

Give me an old-school Volvo or brand new BMW any day. I hate the trash that comes off of American assembly lines.

I'm sure Billy Gates has a solution, as this is a "Windows" problem.

MrGumboPants Because parents are morons, I should be forced to pay more than I need to?