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2003-08-19 11:59:57 AM
Gee... thanks... the threats and propaganda are enough huh?
 
2003-08-19 12:01:38 PM
Oh, and thank you Norm Coleman.
 
2003-08-19 12:13:32 PM
They also consider John Holmes "small"
 
2003-08-19 12:16:15 PM
Well at last I'm going to get a good nights sleep tonight. I've been worried sick for months now that RIAA, and the Archies, were going to sue my sorry ass over that bootleg copy of Sugar Sugar I got off of Napster three years ago.
 
2003-08-19 12:16:54 PM
Looks like this headline isn't quite finished.

RIAA won't sue small-time illegal music downloaders...yet

That is all.
 
2003-08-19 12:19:01 PM
That doesn't mean they aren't farkin' a55holes, though.
 
2003-08-19 12:25:11 PM
When is someone going to hit these Farkers with a friggin'
RICO case. IT is clear they price fix, are monopolistic and anti-competitive. They realize their distribution monopoly is in serious jeopardy. If only they threw the money into finding and funding new artists instead of leagal fees, we may actually find a CD or two we wouldn't mind purchasing.

UGG, I know it's all been said before but DAH AMN, I am getting fed up with this shiate!
 
2003-08-19 12:34:50 PM
i wish there were a way for me to send the money straight to the band....

download the music -

and skip the middle man
 
2003-08-19 12:35:35 PM
sweet!
*resumes downloading*
 
2003-08-19 12:38:49 PM
Hey, that's great!

/wipes ass with picture of Lars Ulrich Mitch Bainwol.
 
2003-08-19 12:39:01 PM
Great. My attornies' retainer fees are killing me.
 
2003-08-19 12:39:58 PM
The RIAA is forgoing small fish. They're going after the accountant. He'll be at Union Station to catch the 11:50 train. Watch out for baby carriages and make sure you get him ali--ahhh, forget it.
 
2003-08-19 01:38:47 PM
Yes! Let's hear it for Norm Coleman!
 
2003-08-19 02:15:31 PM
what's their defintion of small? 10? 100? 1000?
 
2003-08-19 02:22:13 PM
2003-08-19 12:34:50 PM h3lx
i wish there were a way for me to send the money straight to the band....
download the music -
and skip the middle man


Still not legal, but might make you feel better. Download music as per usual from whatever service you use, and send money directly to the artist using Fairtunes.
I'm not too sure of the site though, since I just found it, but it looks good.
 
2003-08-19 03:22:37 PM
My headline was better!!!

/cliche whine
 
2003-08-19 07:13:00 PM
Well, that certainly is a relief.

/disarming the claymore inside my server
 
2003-08-19 07:13:58 PM
"RIAA is in no way targeting 'de minimis' users,"

Is de minimus a legal term or is he just being law-ass speak guy?
 
2003-08-19 07:15:09 PM
Is 14 gigs of (mostly) independent music considered 'small time'?
 
2003-08-19 07:16:55 PM
Has the RIAA explained how, even though they said the exact same things when cassette recorders came out, this is different? No? Didn't think so.
 
2003-08-19 07:18:29 PM
Dosen't change the fact that they are all sucktards.

So..what DO they consider substantial anyhow?
 
2003-08-19 07:19:00 PM
Of the 1000's of mp3's I have, I guess I'll only share 10 different ones everyday :) But I'll share SWAT and American Wedding all day 24/7

FU Jack!

FU Cary!
 
2003-08-19 07:19:47 PM
Shut......Up
It's Latin. "de" meaning from, about, concerning. "minimis" is small, least, little. So it essentially means "concerning the least".
 
2003-08-19 07:21:02 PM
I know Dave Grohl is pro-file-sharing. But if I were arrested for having Foo Fighters music, would I be okay?

/no chance in hell
 
2003-08-19 07:21:56 PM
A Republican who holds an opinion good for the people and not for the corporations... wow... next thing you know Satan's going to be selling sweaters.

*prepares fire extinguisher for the flames*
 
2003-08-19 07:23:12 PM
How many files does it take to get to the center of an RIAA lawsuit...

one...

two...

three...

The world may never know.
 
2003-08-19 07:25:09 PM
I like to own all my music, but that really doesn't stop me from file sharing. I have maybe 500 or so MP3s, but I also own a total of 110 CDs, with 9 more soon to be added to the collection. (I'm in BMG music club. If anyone wants to join, drop me an e-mail. I get free music if I'm your referrer. =P)

File sharing is a way for me to try out artists without buying CDs first. I don't listen to radio often, because mainstream radio isn't that great, and TV sucks in general, so I don't watch music videos on MTV2 or VH1 Insomniac Music Theatre all that often. Why should I waste my money on shiat that I don't like?

And what if I don't have the money to buy CDs? Music is one of the few pleasures in life. File sharing's about music, asshats. Not money or business.

/rant
 
2003-08-19 07:27:39 PM
whatever...this article means nothing
 
2003-08-19 07:28:15 PM
A Republican who's basically Bush's puppet at that, and only won because Wellstone died (RIP).
 
2003-08-19 07:28:58 PM
and no, 'de minimus' isn't a legal term, he's just trying to sound smart.
 
2003-08-19 07:28:59 PM
White_Rabbit
A Republican who holds an opinion good for the people and not for the corporations... wow...

Not so very surprising. The "true" Right Wing is all about personal freedom. You just don't get very far in politics, Left or Right Wing, without kissing up to a few special interests, just as the ACLU or the RIAA, along the way.
 
2003-08-19 07:30:00 PM
"RIAA won't sue small-time illegal music downloaders"




Suuuuuure. And THESE guys aren't out to destroy ALL the humans either.
 
2003-08-19 07:30:03 PM
You know, when the RIAA puts out a message which so undermines their campaign against file-sharing, it gives you the impression that they never had a shred of legitimacy in the first place.

You mean that after all this money spent on the message that sharing is stealing, they're now announcing that it's ok to steal a little. What a transparently cynical move...
 
2003-08-19 07:31:55 PM
I'm sure that they hated admitting that in public... I won't be smug and self-congratulatory until they quantify "excessive".

/not a target, but concerned nonetheless
 
2003-08-19 07:37:11 PM
Perhaps this latest statement of leniency toward minimal file sharing is a ruse?



/don't trust 'em for a second
 
2003-08-19 07:37:45 PM
It's simple. They won't define "small-time" or de minimis or WTF they and their assclown lawyers want to call it, because they want you to ph33R 7h3m. "Am I safe sharing 10? 100? 500?" - nobody knows! It saves them suing everyone (which would tax even the RIAA's budget I imagine) but still probably makes a lot of people stop sharing out of fear of losing their college fund and their parents' home. The RIAA can suck me off blah blah blah

/Slashdot reader
 
2003-08-19 07:37:55 PM
Nietzche101

We know it's Latin, but is it a recognized legal term or does the guy have some sort of Latin Turrets Syndrome where he randomly says words in Latin instead of English for no reason at all?
 
2003-08-19 07:39:53 PM
I KNOW for a FACT that they had EVERY intent of going after small timers. They've been doing that the entire time.

Their plan is (was, now) to put full force on examples of every type of downloader. They wanted everyone to think they were "next". The proof can be seen in the actions leading up to their subpoening anyone they could find. They didn't contemplate who they were going after, just who would get a shock from a little bit of legal force.

Thank you, thank you Norm Coleman, you just calmed the storm a little for us. Good man.

Norm Coleman for President.
 
2003-08-19 07:41:35 PM
It's exactly the same deal as with cassettes, clevershark. Small-time, non-commericial tape-trading is virtually harmless (and until recently still legal in the USA -- it *may* even still be legal in the USA because of international copyright laws, but I'd hate to be the one to take it to the world courts to try and find out), compared to the amount of resources that would have to be brought to bear to prevent it.

For some reason, the industry was not technology-savvy enough to realise that you can't go after the technology, in this case (although they realised it with cassettes), and thus we have the Napster suit, and all the other bullyish posturing.
 
2003-08-19 07:47:22 PM
He_Hate_Me
I'm not sure, but considering how much of western civil law is derived from the Roman 12 Tables, it most likely is. Though I must admit I suffer from L.T.S. myself.

/Una salvus victus nullam sperare sanctus
 
2003-08-19 07:48:32 PM
i guess i can stop worrying about that the numbness in my arm whenever kazaa is running...
 
2003-08-19 07:48:41 PM
Farking assholes! How farking nice of them! Thank you Sir!

These farks and the movie execs are surely lucky I'm in Australia when I'm not allowed a sword.
Why does there have to be so many greedy assholes? Can't there just be some sort of choice natural disaster which only infects their kind with a horrible horrible flesh eating disease. Screw them and this capitalist bullshiat.



/goes back to growing own crops and making own music by blowing angrily over the mouth of a jug.
 
2003-08-19 07:49:25 PM
Trading cassette copies has always been technically illegal.

That's all I have to say about that.
 
2003-08-19 07:49:52 PM
A case of Shrinkage i'd say...
 
2003-08-19 07:49:57 PM
"RIAA is in no way targeting 'de minimis' users,"

It all comes down to what the meaning of "is" is. "Is not" does not mean "shall not". They reserve the right to target small time operators in the future, just as soon as they can figure out a way to do it efficiently. Maybe we'll see reverse class action suits next.
 
2003-08-19 07:50:22 PM
This changes nothing.
Once the RIAA sues the "big fish" into submission it could be then be argued that the "small fish" now make up a majority of the filesharing and thus they can go after them without fear of contradicting themselves. Note they won't specify who they consider "small."
 
2003-08-19 07:51:23 PM
I only have about 250 or so songs, and I assume that is somewhere around "de minimus". Well, now I feel a lot more confortable stealing music off the internet.
 
2003-08-19 07:52:12 PM
I still hope they get rectal cancer.
 
2003-08-19 07:55:10 PM
um... offtopic somewhat, but what does the tag "PSA" stand for?

/dumbass
 
2003-08-19 07:56:32 PM
Can I ask a kazaa lite (k++, latest version) question?

Why can't I start downloading anything? I resume all, and almost everything is searching. And it stays that way forever. When I do get something, it's connecting...but it won't freaking conntect...ever.

Any help?
 
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