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2011-05-23 01:38:25 PM
It is our God-given right to have our children's faces eaten off.
 
2011-05-23 02:01:04 PM
If you have a dog that is in anyway dangerous, it does not belong at the dog park.
 
2011-05-23 02:12:43 PM
Good. Most kids have no idea how to behave at a dog park, and their parents don't do ANYTHING to control them. Last week, I saw some mom dropped her three kids - of which the oldest was 8, tops - in the the dog park and then wandered off to God knows where. The kids proceeded to run around screaming and throwing stuff at unfamiliar dogs. Kids who don't understand boundaries, parents who think their snowflake can do no wrong and unfamiliar dogs do not mix well.
 
2011-05-23 02:19:32 PM
I don't really have a problem with this. At the dog park I have seen adults toppled over by dogs are not being vicious, but just playing and running rambunctiously. One was a 5-month pregnant woman who had to be taken away by ambulance. I have seen children sitting or running around barefoot on the ground on which dogs have been doing their business. I have seen kids teasing dogs they don't know. Small children + a dozen 50lb+ dogs do not mix well.
 
2011-05-23 02:28:25 PM
Agree.
Young kids don't need to be at a dog park.
 
2011-05-23 02:42:39 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Good.

Now, let's work on keeping the little farkers out of restaurants, airplanes, movie theaters, and generally any other place you don't need a little squalling annoying piece of shiat ruining things because mommy and daddy think the world revolves around them, and don't know how to or don't want to deal with the kid.


Just leave the booger-eaters at home.
 
2011-05-23 02:43:30 PM
It's probably for the best. I've been nearly knocked down by a golden retriever and a 11 mo old mastiff puppy and they were just playing around, a little kid could have been seriously hurt.

At the dog park i go to an older gentleman had his ankle crushed by his own enthusiastic dog. He needed surgery to have it fixed. And many times parents just let their kids run around unsupervised.
 
2011-05-23 02:55:33 PM
 
2011-05-23 03:05:04 PM

EvilEgg: If you have a dog that is in anyway dangerous, it does not belong at the dog park.


I agree. But, by the same token, small children shouldn't be around a lot of strange dogs. They don't understand the difference between their lovable little Fido who will lie there patiently as Little Jayden tugs on its ears and some high-strung Jack Russel. Plus, I take my dog to the dog park so I can let her run off-leash. I can't do that if there are little kids around.

I have the sweetest, most gentle Great Dane and, no matter how many times I tell kids NEVER to pet her from behind, to let her smell them first (or at least SEE them), they ignore me and just start petting her wherever it's most convenient. I'm not worried she'll bite them or anything, but she's a huge dog (150 lbs) and startles easily. I'm afraid she'll accidentally knock them down and then I'll have to explain to some dipshiat helicopter parent that it's their precious snowflake's fault for not knowing how to act around strange dogs.
 
2011-05-23 03:16:47 PM
Dogs off the leash, kids on.
 
2011-05-23 04:19:41 PM
Sin_City_Superhero: Just leave the booger-eaters at home.

I think there are other things on the ground at dog parks that would be more of a concern if eaten than simply nose candy.


Mr. Coffee Nerves: Dogs off the leash, kids on.

Don't stop there. I think a muzzle would be appropriate, too.


brigid_fitch: I'll have to explain to some dipshiat helicopter parent that it's their precious snowflake's fault for not knowing how to act around strange dogs.

Welcome to our modern society where everyone else is to blame for somebody's bad parenting. Leave the gate to your back yard open and your neighbor's kid wanders in and ends up face down in your pool? Don't blame the parents, blame (and sue) the guy who left his gate open.

Parents are a protected class and that really needs to end. If some kid did that and your dog did bite, not only should you not get a ticket, but the parent of the kid should for failure to control his child.
 
2011-05-23 04:23:59 PM

coinspinner: Good. Most kids have no idea how to behave at a dog park, and their parents don't do ANYTHING to control them. Last week, I saw some mom dropped her three kids - of which the oldest was 8, tops - in the the dog park and then wandered off to God knows where. The kids proceeded to run around screaming and throwing stuff at unfamiliar dogs. Kids who don't understand boundaries, parents who think their snowflake can do no wrong and unfamiliar dogs do not mix well.


Seconded.
 
2011-05-23 04:25:26 PM
Kids are known tail pullers.
 
2011-05-23 04:26:36 PM
Watching the little kids get knocked the fark over by a pack of friendly dogs running around the dog park is the highlight of my weekend. Don't take that away from me. Stupid irresponsible parents.
 
2011-05-23 04:26:44 PM
I have zero problems with this.
 
2011-05-23 04:27:09 PM
I have no problem with this. It scares the hell out of me when I see people bring small children into dog parks. My doberman is a pretty friendly guy, but he likes to play rough and I wouldn't be surprised if he crashed into a toddler because he was too busy looking back at the other dogs. And many of these people just leave their kids completely unattended. No doubt if a dog did break their kid's neck it would be lawsuit time.
 
2011-05-23 04:27:56 PM
Agree with the no kids rule. My former 110lb of rambunctious Rottweiler would often "herd" groups of little kids to their terror. Never hurt anyone, but did once jump in the pool and landed right on top of my niece (she was fine).

Some if not most dogs at these parks are larger, heavier and certainly stronger than the average toddler.
 
2011-05-23 04:28:46 PM
... I'm OK with this.
 
2011-05-23 04:29:14 PM

Dinjiin: Sin_City_Superhero: Just leave the booger-eaters at home.

I think there are other things on the ground at dog parks that would be more of a concern if eaten than simply nose candy.


Mr. Coffee Nerves: Dogs off the leash, kids on.

Don't stop there. I think a muzzle would be appropriate, too.


brigid_fitch: I'll have to explain to some dipshiat helicopter parent that it's their precious snowflake's fault for not knowing how to act around strange dogs.

Welcome to our modern society where everyone else is to blame for somebody's bad parenting. Leave the gate to your back yard open and your neighbor's kid wanders in and ends up face down in your pool? Don't blame the parents, blame (and sue) the guy who left his gate open.

Parents are a protected class and that really needs to end. If some kid did that and your dog did bite, not only should you not get a ticket, but the parent of the kid should for failure to control his child.


Holy shiat, you read my mind!
 
2011-05-23 04:29:37 PM
It's a standard rule at most dog parks i go to....

also included is don't bring food in.

nobody pays any attention to the posted rules but there ya go.
 
2011-05-23 04:30:03 PM

EvilEgg: If you have a dog that is in anyway dangerous, it does not belong at the dog park.


Well, that depends on your definition of dangerous. If you mean dangerous as in prone to attacking or biting with full intensity without provocation, I would agree with you. But dogs, even socialized ones, will often growl, snap or nip at other dogs as a way of correcting behavior. This is not dangerous. Kids do not understand this. They will provoke a dog, then claim the dog bit him when the dog nips or snaps at the kid. And then it becomes a major issue.

Kids do not belong in a dog park, bottom line.
 
2011-05-23 04:30:16 PM

EvilEgg: If you have a dog kid that is in anyway dangerous unbehaved because you think precious snowflake should be allowed to do whatever they damn well please, it does not belong at the dog park.


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2011-05-23 04:30:40 PM
I definitely agree with this and hope the trend spreads. Whenever I took my dog to Petsmart and little kids saw her, they run up to her and either pet her nicely or yank on her tail or ears. My dog is a very protective German Shepherd who doesn't allow anyone to touch her ears or tails without getting snapped at. Parents think its cute and dandy until their little sunshine gets hurts, then they blame the dog and the owner for not controlling the dog/preventing their stupid kid from treating an animal like a stuffed toy.
 
2011-05-23 04:34:39 PM

Spanky_McFarksalot: EvilEgg: If you have a dog kid that is in anyway dangerous misbehaved because you think precious snowflake should be allowed to do whatever they damn well please, it does not belong at the dog park in existence.

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2011-05-23 04:35:20 PM

EvilEgg: If you have a dog that is in anyway dangerous, it does not belong at the dog park.


If you have a child that is in anyway dangerous, it does not belong at the park.
 
2011-05-23 04:38:36 PM
Children under 12 should never be allowed in public.
 
2011-05-23 04:39:52 PM

EvilEgg: If you have a dog that is in anyway dangerous, it does not belong at the dog park.


Dangerous like what? Man-o-war jellyfish? F5 tornado? Mexican food?
 
2011-05-23 04:42:45 PM

jabbedxorz: I definitely agree with this and hope the trend spreads. Whenever I took my dog to Petsmart and little kids saw her, they run up to her and either pet her nicely or yank on her tail or ears. My dog is a very protective German Shepherd who doesn't allow anyone to touch her ears or tails without getting snapped at. Parents think its cute and dandy until their little sunshine gets hurts, then they blame the dog and the owner for not controlling the dog/preventing their stupid kid from treating an animal like a stuffed toy.


That's a store not a dog park. Kids are stupid and the way they are parented these days, out of control. If your dog is dangerous when dealing with retarded kids it's still going to be on you when he eats one of their faces.

I have a pet chimp and I know he gets angry really easily, I steer clear of bringing him to petsmart after he did become agitated towards some woman and tore her face off. We tend to stick to dog parks these days, one of his favorite things to do is antagonize dogs then book it up a tree. Fun to watch him play with other animals.
 
2011-05-23 04:46:42 PM
I've been hoping for this at our local dog park for a long time. We take our dogs to the park so they can run around in a large open area off-leash and have some fun with other dogs. When there are small children around things aren't so comfortable as we are always worried about the dogs running into them or even the kids taunting the dogs. Our dogs are herding dogs (Australian Shepherds) and if small kids start to run around the dogs' instinct is to herd them. They don't nip or do anything dangerous, but they run in circles around the kids and bark which freaks the kids out and sometimes draws angry responses from the parents (if they are even paying attention). This is not a place for small kids, period.

I take responsibility as a dog owner to control my dogs, and they will stop "herding" the kids on command, but they become clearly uncomfortable trying to fight their instinct. This is not why we go to the dog park... it's to let the dogs be dogs for a while.
 
2011-05-23 04:47:47 PM

MycroftHolmes: But dogs, even socialized ones, will often growl, snap or nip at other dogs as a way of correcting behavior. This is not dangerous. Kids People w/overblown senses of self-entitlement who treat their yappy little dog like a child do not understand this.


A little off-topic but while we're on the subject of dog parks & behavior in general, FTFY

Just as much as I worry about little kids, it's idiot dog owners who don't understand dog behavior. Dogs will rough-house. And they'll often snarl, nip, & bite while they're doing so. As soon as one yelps or cries, they usually stop, assess the damage, and then go right back at it, albeit a little more gingerly with the dog who cried "uncle".

Nobody is killing your widdy-biddy baby. They are PLAYING. This is what real dogs do when you're not dressing them up in costumes and pushing them around in strollers.

Typical culprit:
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(It's hard to tell, but there's a Shih Tzu in there.)
 
2011-05-23 04:52:26 PM
brigid_fitch

Nobody is killing your widdy-biddy baby. They are PLAYING. This is what real dogs do when .


Oh god, I can't stand people like that either.

"That dog is mean!"

No...she's just playing, see how your dog is chasing my dog and they keep playing? He wouldn't do that if she was "being mean".
 
2011-05-23 04:52:43 PM
I'm OK with this.

I can't really take my kids to dog parks, anyway. My shepherd apparently believes (correctly) that one of her jobs is to protect my kids. When they're in the park with her, she goes nuts trying to herd them and keep the other dogs away, so she can't really enjoy herself. It's better just to leave the kids outside.

The odd thing is that she can't stand my kids (or anyone else, really, except me, I assume because I'm the alpha male), but because the kids are in her "pack", she'll do her best to see that nothing happens to them.
 
2011-05-23 04:57:03 PM
And, just because there is a serious lack of dogs in this thread, pic of my dumb-but-lovable Great Dane, Justice:

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And with a new-found friend yesterday at the Asbury Park boardwalk
farm4.static.flickr.com
 
2011-05-23 04:57:24 PM

MycroftHolmes: EvilEgg: If you have a dog that is in anyway dangerous, it does not belong at the dog park.

Well, that depends on your definition of dangerous. If you mean dangerous as in prone to attacking or biting with full intensity without provocation, I would agree with you. But dogs, even socialized ones, will often growl, snap or nip at other dogs as a way of correcting behavior. This is not dangerous. Kids do not understand this. They will provoke a dog, then claim the dog bit him when the dog nips or snaps at the kid. And then it becomes a major issue.

Kids do not belong in a dog park, bottom line.


I've been bowled over by my lazy-ass greyhound at the dog park because he can't take corners. 80lbs at 40 mph hurts no matter how big you are. Kids should not be in any dog park. Little dogs should not be in the big dog park.

Also agree with the growling, nipping thing. Robbie is an impeccably polite dog and expects other dogs to be too. A full grown puppy jumping and barking in his face is quickly pinned.

/Terrifying every time it happens, but he's never raised a bruise, and afterwards they get along great.
//wouldn't be necessary if you trained and socialized your precious little surrogate child
 
2011-05-23 04:57:47 PM
Is this where we get to tell fun dog park stories?

My local dog park is a magnet for the wackiest people in the city. One woman brought her cat to the park yesterday. While she was sitting at a distance, she did not see anything wrong with what she was doing, even after it was nicely explained to her (nothing happened while I was there).

My all time favorite story was when someone brought their pet rabbit to the park (not the only time, nor the only person to do this). Unfortunately, someone's husky was off-leash and saw the rabbit before its owner did. Long story short, the rabbit was toast, and when animal control was called the officer took the dog's side and threatened to ticket the rabbit owner for not having gotten it all its shots.

/css
//also, ban kids. I have a St Bernard who has knocked over adults by accident. I don't want to think about what could happen if she knocked a kid over
///off to the dog park!
 
2011-05-23 04:58:20 PM
Fools. Look what happened when they tried to ban the elderly from farmer's markets. Yeah, that went well. I expect nothing better here.
 
2011-05-23 04:58:22 PM

brigid_fitch: And, just because there is a serious lack of dogs in this thread, pic of my dumb-but-lovable Great Dane, Justice:





Marmaduke!
 
2011-05-23 05:04:08 PM
If kids were banned from more locations, the would would be a better place.
 
2011-05-23 05:04:35 PM

brigid_fitch: And, just because there is a serious lack of dogs in this thread, pic of my dumb-but-lovable Great Dane, Justice:



And with a new-found friend yesterday at the Asbury Park boardwalk


i can only imagine the huge dog shiats you gotta pick up constantly....

/rip goofy.
 
2011-05-23 05:07:53 PM
farm3.static.flickr.com

I thought this was amusing. Neither are my dog.

farm3.static.flickr.com

This is my dog at the dog park.
 
2011-05-23 05:07:56 PM

ph0rk: If kids were banned from more locations, the would would be a better place.


If by "kids" you mean anyone under the age of 30, yes I agree. Anyone who isn't legally allowed to run for Senate is too immature to be in a public place.
 
2011-05-23 05:08:06 PM
I'm just going to add that I, too, am okay with this. Dogs need a break from tolerating children sometimes.
 
2011-05-23 05:08:37 PM

brigid_fitch: And, just because there is a serious lack of dogs in this thread, pic of my dumb-but-lovable Great Dane, Justice:



And with a new-found friend yesterday at the Asbury Park boardwalk


That is a beautiful dog. Danes are absolutely wonderful dogs. I had never been around one before I had one as a foster dog. She was an abuse case and only weighed 80 lbs when we got her. Here she is now weighing in at around 125 lbs. She made it about 36 hours as a foster dog before we decided to keep her.
i188.photobucket.com
 
2011-05-23 05:10:12 PM

Persnickety: ph0rk: If kids were banned from more locations, the would would be a better place.

If by "kids" you mean anyone under the age of 30, yes I agree. Anyone who isn't legally allowed to run for Senate is too immature to be in a public place.


I like looking at some of the ones in their 20's, even if they tend to be dumb as bricks.

You can treat a 22 year old like an adult (that is, tell them to shut the fark up when warranted). You can't really do that to a 12 year old without people jumping in your shiat. Usually, the same people that failed to keep their kids quiet in the first place.
 
2011-05-23 05:10:51 PM
I am getting a kick out of this...

Our dog park has a list of rules outside the gate, and one of them is "No children under the age of 16 unless accompanied by a parent or guardian." The park is also adjacent to the low income housing development. This past Saturday, I told a pack of 9 rug-rats (aged 7-12) that they couldn't come in without their parents. One of them ran home and angry, ghetto mom came to correct me. I pointed out the rule on the sign and said, "Yes, I know they were here yesterday. They spent the afternoon tormenting my dog. My 120 pound, 42" at the shoulder, German Shepherd who is a trained guard dog. They pulled his tail, ears, swung a stick at it and threw rocks at it. If it were any other dog here, you would have one less mouth to feed as any other dog would've attacked your kids to protect itself."

Then, to demonstrate, I gave the "protect" command and my dog elicited his trained behavior from the other side of the fence. She nearly fell over from fear, even with the fence between them. I called him off and gave him the release command to go back to playing.

I followed it up with, "Your kids are welcome here, if you are going to watch them and make them follow the rules on the board, which include:
1. No Running. The herding breeds will herd your kids if they run from the group, and herding involves biting at the ankles and calves.
2. No petting strange dogs. Many dogs will snap when you reach for their head as part of a protection instinct.
3. No throwing things at the dogs or beating them with sticks. If your kids want to throw a ball for the dog to chase, that's fine. Make sure they get the attention of the dog and don't throw it at the dogs.
4. No teasing the dogs. Don't hold onto them, grab their tails or ears.
5. No having "staring contests" with the dogs. (God, just once I want to see a dog rip into a kid that does this)

The rules are here for the safety of the dogs as well as the humans. This is a dog park. It is for the dogs. There is a public park a quarter mile up the road with slides, jungle gym, swing sets, etc. Take your kids there to play. My dogs aren't supposed to be allowed loose there just like your kids shouldn't be here.
 
2011-05-23 05:10:53 PM
The best dog park I have been to has a little enclosed area for the kids. It's a huge park, donated by a dog lover. Stipulated was that the dogs had free run and the kids had to be in the enclosed pen area. Sand, slides, swings, etc, a nice little area for the kidlets to play. Parents still try to let their kids walk around the park with them, but there are attendants who point to the signs and point to the enclosure. Want to take your kids to a park? This isn't the one.

I wish I lived closer, I'd take my pups there any time.
 
2011-05-23 05:16:55 PM
I remember some po'bucker mom who dropped off three small kids at a busy dog park.

THEY WEREN'T WEARING SHOES!

Watching one of those little fecal pellets put a foot in a dog pile the size of a chicken pot pie made several adults about cough up chunks right there. Soon, there was scumber rubbed up to about their knee.

It made you want to take a bath in hand sanitizer.
 
2011-05-23 05:18:32 PM
It's not so much the kids, it's the parents who say "MY child should be allowed into this inappropriate situation" then follow up with "now this inappropriate situation should be modified to make it appropriate to my child."

i.e. "I'm bringing my kid into this dive bar at 10PM!" and "Hey! Watch your language! My child is here!"

If you have a kid that can handle being in a dog park -- no screaming, no approaching strange dogs and grabbing ears/tail, etc., then I'd say a solid percentage of dog owners would say "Worth a shot."
 
2011-05-23 05:18:33 PM
VitalyC:

That's awesome. I have an australian shepherd/husky mix. She loves to herd whatever is moving around her too. We actually don't take her to the dog park anymore after a bunch of owners got pissed she herded their dogs into a corner. She wasn't biting or anything; they just didn't like their dogs being controlled and said she was being aggressive.Just not worth going up there and dealing with idiots and their kids anymore
 
2011-05-23 05:22:17 PM
I for one think this is a brilliant idea. I have an anti-social chihuahua that hates all humans (except me) and any dog larger than him. I used to take him to dog parks to socialize him, but the damn snot nosed crotchfruit wouldn't give him any space. I stopped taking him out of fear that he would bite some brat.

I say we keep ALL kids out of dog parks till about the age of 15.
 
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