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2011-05-22 05:43:32 PM
Really curious here.
 
2011-05-22 05:44:13 PM
pets.com
 
2011-05-22 05:46:37 PM
SoCal, how'd you like the season opener yesterday? Scored a bit of fun up in SC. I'd ask you about it on LI, but I'm told I should avoid it...
 
2011-05-22 05:47:39 PM
They're right
 
2011-05-22 05:47:56 PM
Yep, it's why I sold my 22 shares at $110.
 
2011-05-22 05:47:59 PM
I have an idea- everyone that's hiring, post inthis thread.

We'll monetize Fark in a new diaga-form!
 
2011-05-22 05:54:45 PM
But I was told the Greater Fool Theory was bogus.
 
2011-05-22 06:07:33 PM
Title should be why you should short LinkedIn.
 
2011-05-22 06:20:24 PM
FeelsBadMan: But I was told the Greater Fool Theory was bogus.

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-05-22 06:37:37 PM
Impaler, how long did you hold your 22 shares for? I guess you made around 4 hundred bucks, not too bad for an afternoon
 
2011-05-22 06:46:00 PM
impaler: Yep, it's why I sold my 22 shares at $110.

BUT were you one of the 8% or did you buy marginally higher?
 
2011-05-22 06:47:55 PM
Nevermind... I see you bought at $91 for a total gross return of meh.
 
2011-05-22 06:48:02 PM
Marketwatch superfecta in play.

/will be shorting/buying puts on LNKD this week.
 
2011-05-22 07:19:13 PM
them see me trollin': Impaler, how long did you hold your 22 shares for? I guess you made around 4 hundred bucks, not too bad for an afternoon

About 2 hours.

20% ROI every day, I figure I should be a millionaire in a month.

/that's how trading works y'all, what could possibly go wrong.
 
2011-05-22 07:42:13 PM
E.S.Q.: We'll monetize Fark in a new diaga-form!

Don't give Drew ideas!
 
2011-05-22 08:00:42 PM
impaler: 20% ROI every day, I figure I should be a millionaire in a month.

Did you get a bulk discount on wedding cake? ;)
 
2011-05-22 08:14:51 PM
LinkedIn's "success" so far is entirely related to the down economy for the past few years. Recently unemployed people all over the world just needed one more outlet for their resume and one hundred million of them flooded the site. But the problem with LinkedIn is that once you've set up your profile you really have no reason to visit the site ever again. So now they've got 100 million users that don't use anything. What's worse is that with the global economy improving, fewer quality people are going to feel the need to waste time on that site "networking."

LinkedIn will go the way of Second Life in due course.
 
2011-05-22 08:36:28 PM
Nuuu: LinkedIn will go the way of Second Life in due course.

support furries and flying penises while continuing to make money for the owners?
 
2011-05-22 08:36:36 PM
You'd have to have a massive case of amnesia and have forgotten about the tech bubble of the early 00s if you're willing to invest in LinkedIn right now.

Or you're just an idiot day-trader with no sense of the bigger picture. Either way, investing isn't for you.
 
2011-05-22 08:42:05 PM
Nuuu: LinkedIn's "success" so far is entirely related to the down economy for the past few years. Recently unemployed people all over the world just needed one more outlet for their resume and one hundred million of them flooded the site. But the problem with LinkedIn is that once you've set up your profile you really have no reason to visit the site ever again. So now they've got 100 million users that don't use anything. What's worse is that with the global economy improving, fewer quality people are going to feel the need to waste time on that site "networking."

LinkedIn will go the way of Second Life in due course.


And you would be completely wrong If you are smart you network in good times and bad. And linkedin has supplanted other job sites by "facebooking" career sites. That is making a site that is clean, free, and unobtrusive to use. It will keep growing. I loathed monster.com because of it's interface and it's commercialism.

/and it makes money by selling premium subscriptions and for companies looking for new employees
 
2011-05-22 08:47:26 PM
Monday's New Yorker talks about how farked up it is to have your IPO double on day 1, but that's from an article in the future.
 
2011-05-22 09:06:25 PM
bravian: Nuuu: LinkedIn's "success" so far is entirely related to the down economy for the past few years. Recently unemployed people all over the world just needed one more outlet for their resume and one hundred million of them flooded the site. But the problem with LinkedIn is that once you've set up your profile you really have no reason to visit the site ever again. So now they've got 100 million users that don't use anything. What's worse is that with the global economy improving, fewer quality people are going to feel the need to waste time on that site "networking."

LinkedIn will go the way of Second Life in due course.

And you would be completely wrong If you are smart you network in good times and bad. And linkedin has supplanted other job sites by "facebooking" career sites. That is making a site that is clean, free, and unobtrusive to use. It will keep growing. I loathed monster.com because of it's interface and it's commercialism.

/and it makes money by selling premium subscriptions and for companies looking for new employees


Yes, people should network in good times and bad, but will they? I don't see it.

You know who also has an interest in facebooking job sites? Facebook, as well as google, microsoft, and any other big boy with an established user base. If this niche ever develops, LinkedIn will be beset on all sides by big competitors.

And I agree they are a better site than Monster, but that's like saying I'm a better football player than my ten year old cousin - it doesn't mean I'm any good.
 
2011-05-22 09:12:32 PM
I only invest in chewing gum, and the people that make water.
 
2011-05-22 09:45:06 PM
Marcus Aurelius: Monday's New Yorker talks about how farked up it is to have your IPO double on day 1, but that's from an article in the future.

The investment bankers screwed LinkedIn on this one.
 
2011-05-22 09:58:22 PM
DJanomaly 2011-05-22 08:36:36 PM

Or you're just an idiot day-trader with no sense of the bigger picture. Either way, investing isn't for you.


I think you mean anyone who buys and holds onto stocks for months at a time in this new tech bubble is stupid. But the past 2 yrs it was pretty difficult to lose money while the government was doing QE and QE2. Now the market is volatile again and everything is up in the air. But money is still to be made day trading and "investing" in the stock market long term was out of style in 1991
 
2011-05-22 10:17:58 PM
Big Al: DJanomaly 2011-05-22 08:36:36 PM

Or you're just an idiot day-trader with no sense of the bigger picture. Either way, investing isn't for you.


I think you mean anyone who buys and holds onto stocks for months at a time in this new tech bubble is stupid. But the past 2 yrs it was pretty difficult to lose money while the government was doing QE and QE2. Now the market is volatile again and everything is up in the air. But money is still to be made day trading and "investing" in the stock market long term was out of style in 1991



Well....yeah. Investing in it is what I meant. But the day traders are the ones who artificially inflate stocks like this to cause the run up into the bubble.
 
2011-05-22 10:39:02 PM
Big Al: "investing" in the stock market long term was out of style in 1991

Style, shmyle. Warren Buffett's done okay for himself being the opposite of stylish.
 
2011-05-22 10:40:13 PM
Big Al: DJanomaly 2011-05-22 08:36:36 PM

Or you're just an idiot day-trader with no sense of the bigger picture. Either way, investing isn't for you.


I think you mean anyone who buys and holds onto stocks for months at a time in this new tech bubble is stupid. But the past 2 yrs it was pretty difficult to lose money while the government was doing QE and QE2. Now the market is volatile again and everything is up in the air. But money is still to be made day trading and "investing" in the stock market long term was out of style in 1991


Remember when stocks would give out dividend payments? When owning a stock meant getting paid a certain amount of money for every share?

The current paradigm were stock holds value solely on the actual value of the stock, has made trading stocks literally gambling.
 
2011-05-22 11:47:12 PM
Fuggin Bizzy Quote 2011-05-22 10:39:02 PM


Style, shmyle. Warren Buffett's done okay for himself being the opposite of stylish.


Equating day traders to Buffett is too funny
 
2011-05-22 11:52:16 PM
DJanomaly 2011-05-22 10:17:58 PM


Well....yeah. Investing in it is what I meant. But the day traders are the ones who artificially inflate stocks like this to cause the run up into the bubble.


Of course, but that's their job. Without stock market bubbles where would the American economy be? Competing with India for better GDP numbers probably
 
2011-05-23 12:09:59 AM
DJanomaly: Big Al: DJanomaly 2011-05-22 08:36:36 PM

Or you're just an idiot day-trader with no sense of the bigger picture. Either way, investing isn't for you.


I think you mean anyone who buys and holds onto stocks for months at a time in this new tech bubble is stupid. But the past 2 yrs it was pretty difficult to lose money while the government was doing QE and QE2. Now the market is volatile again and everything is up in the air. But money is still to be made day trading and "investing" in the stock market long term was out of style in 1991


Well....yeah. Investing in it is what I meant. But the day traders are the ones who artificially inflate stocks like this to cause the run up into the bubble.


There were bubbles before there were day traders. And it takes more than day traders to sustain a bubble.
 
2011-05-23 12:11:32 AM
Has anyone here used LinkedIn with any success? Is it a waste of time?

\Looking
 
2011-05-23 03:15:47 AM
Klasik: Has anyone here used LinkedIn with any success? Is it a waste of time?

\Looking


I've briefly toyed with it, and I haven't found too great of a reason to adapt (I'm also a bit of an anti-social Luddite, so take my advice with a grain of salt).

The general theory is one where qualified people can post how qualified they are to potential employers and try to cash in on the "friend of a friend" good ol' boy network (See also, giving resumes to your father's golfing buddies). LinkedIn is growing, but only because lots of people think it will help.

The problem is threefold: more people = greater user base = diminishing quality, mass commercialization, and the lack of user interactivity.

For the first problem to be fixed, the site would have to actively eliminate the fraudulant entries as well as the poor quality people (non-professionals) to remain effective, which would allow the site to gain fame as a source for top 10% talent. Since no such restrictions exist, the growth of users represents a diminished perception of "elite" (assuming a large enough population is statistically similar to the general population) and the loss of quality as quantity of profiles soar. Recruiters would have to search far longer to get past the thousands of average workers.

As for the commercialization, a big problem with anything "free" on the internet is the money comes from advertisements or morons. Eventually, spambots and trolls get involved with the site and coders start actively attacking the site. The need for revenue is balanced against the need of the community and a compromise is struck for the owner(s). See Phil (politics tab troll) not getting banned by the mods; he drives pageviews (profits) for an example.

The last bit is self-explanatory, simply because people are lazy and short-sighted. Once the initial account is setup, there is no compelling reason to return other than to update one's credentials. Some members do things like post interests/recent books read/political leanings and treat the site like a Facebook-lite. The move is risky, because any information posted is public domain and could be used against you if a recruiter doesn't like your philosophy. And, in reality, most people are swayed by a personal recommendation than an atypical social "link". The personal touch lets the employer indirectly associate the virtues of the reference on the candidate. An internet setup does not and may require a bit more from a candidate to warrant employment.

My opinion is that LinkedIn is one of the new shiny things. I figure the current tech bubble (social media) has about 3-5 years left on it before a MASSIVE correction kills off the small players (or merges them into one of the remaining giants) while seriously crippling the big ones. I think Facebook will be a ghosttown and Twitter completely dead as the masses move on to the next shiny thing. Fark, in my opinion, MAY survive, because the following is niched, but it would be a rough ride.

Hope that helps. Sorry about the wall of text.
 
2011-05-23 09:38:12 AM
Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Klasik: Has anyone here used LinkedIn with any success? Is it a waste of time?

\Looking

I've briefly toyed with it, and I haven't found too great of a reason to adapt (I'm also a bit of an anti-social Luddite, so take my advice with a grain of salt). snip...


I agree with you about LinkedIn. It can be a helpful tool to manage your professional network, but I get more requests from recruiters looking for hourly contractors or local businesses treating it like Facebook.

Also, like Facebook, if you go for quantity over quality, its value diminishes.

I think LinkedIn will survive, but right now I just don't see it as a good long term investment. Short term investors might be able to make some money here and there due to volatility, but that's always a bit tricky. There hasn't been much innovation on the site since its inception, and it is an easily copied business model. LinkedIn could easily go the way of Myspace if they do not continue to innovate and provide more useful networking tools.
 
2011-05-23 10:19:21 AM
Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Klasik: Has anyone here used LinkedIn with any success? Is it a waste of time?

\Looking

I've briefly toyed with it, and I haven't found too great of a reason to adapt (I'm also a bit of an anti-social Luddite, so take my advice with a grain of salt).


Expound, Oh Great One!!!
 
2011-05-23 11:25:14 AM
Eh. I think it does have some value, in terms of providing a dead-easy base for networking. My biggest problem with it is requests from former coworkers I could not, in conscience, recommend to anyone for a future position. Oh, and the evangelists who insist that it's the best thing since sliced bread and spend all their online time talking about it.

I've been lucky enough to have a stable job for a while now, so I haven't actually seen any personal benefit from it. There are hardly ever any jobs in my field there, but I don't know if that's because there are no jobs at all, or they aren't being listed there.
 
2011-05-23 12:33:34 PM
I use linkedin as another posting for my resume and background. If a potential employer punches my name into google, two relevant websites pop up: Linkedin and Academia.edu. Both mainly restate my resume and give a little bit more detail. The "recommendation" function is pretty good but overall its just another place to throw up your resume. You cannot hope someone finds you as most HR people don't go looking for anything but C levels, but it can be effectively used as an additional tool.

But on topic now, I do not believe that people visit the site as frequently as Facebook or anything so a effective monetization of the site is beyond me. I wouldn't pay a tenner for the site.
 
2011-05-23 02:27:47 PM
'For some investors, that makes no difference; they don't worry about inflating the bubble so long as they are not holding it when things explode.'

Quick! To the RomeroCopter!!!''
 
2011-05-23 02:33:50 PM
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Knowing your broker can help you understand his choices. Just sayin....
 
2011-05-23 05:04:10 PM
Gobobo:

I've briefly toyed with it, and I haven't found too great of a reason to adapt (I'm also a bit of an anti-social Luddite, so take my advice with a grain of salt).

Expound, Oh Great One!!!


Anti-social

Luddite

If you couldn't comprehend my previous response, nothing I write will satisfy you. I never said I was an expert.
 
2011-05-23 10:59:47 PM
Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Gobobo:

I've briefly toyed with it, and I haven't found too great of a reason to adapt (I'm also a bit of an anti-social Luddite, so take my advice with a grain of salt).

Expound, Oh Great One!!!

Anti-social

Luddite

If you couldn't comprehend my previous response, nothing I write will satisfy you. I never said I was an expert.


humor

Fark

Ditto
 
2011-05-23 11:00:16 PM
Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

LinkedIn
I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.

- chris

chris m.
realtor at . realty center
Greater New York City Area

Confirm that you know chris
© 2011, LinkedIn Corporation

/today
 
2011-05-23 11:34:57 PM
Gobobo:
humor

Fark

Ditto



My apologies for misinterpreting you. I've been having a case of the stupids and Times New Roman is a terrible medium for sarcasm.
 
2011-05-24 08:31:57 AM
Snarcoleptic_Hoosier:
My apologies for misinterpreting you. I've been having a case of the stupids and Times New Roman is a terrible medium for sarcasm.


Hey I get those all the time!

Meh, it's all good.

Did you see the last post here?
 
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