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2011-05-18 10:17:34 AM  
RIP BONER

yeeeah.com

/seriously, RIP
 
2011-05-18 10:23:35 AM  
Cameron tells us, "Professor Hawking is heralded as 'the genius of Britain,' yet he believes in the scientific impossibility that nothing created everything and that life sprang from non-life."

He adds, "Why should anyone believe Mr. Hawking's writings if he cannot provide evidence for his unscientific belief that out of nothing, everything came?"


This much ignorance should be painful.
 
2011-05-18 10:24:34 AM  
Both sides are bad, so vote Republican be an evangelical Christian.
 
2011-05-18 10:26:07 AM  
This is the man who thought Chiquita bananas were proof that God exists, and that He loves us.

So, you know. Grain of salt and all that.
 
2011-05-18 10:29:29 AM  

xalres: Cameron tells us, "Professor Hawking is heralded as 'the genius of Britain,' yet he believes in the scientific impossibility that nothing created everything and that life sprang from non-life."

He adds, "Why should anyone believe Mr. Hawking's writings if he cannot provide evidence for his unscientific belief that out of nothing, everything came?"

This much ignorance should be painful.


Soooooo, he wants evidence, yet his evidence is a book written, re-written, re-re-written (etc. etc.), and translated into many different languages over many centuries. I don't think he has any room to talk. What an asshole.
 
2011-05-18 10:30:11 AM  

xalres: Cameron tells us, "Professor Hawking is heralded as 'the genius of Britain,' yet he believes in the scientific impossibility that nothing created everything and that life sprang from non-life."

He adds, "Why should anyone believe Mr. Hawking's writings if he cannot provide evidence for his unscientific belief that out of nothing, everything came?"

This much ignorance should be painful.


It is painful, just not for the person for whom it should most be painful.
 
2011-05-18 10:31:06 AM  
Well, Kirk Cameron, Stephen Hawking, and John Lennon were all talking theology and philosophy not as experts, but as amateurs so their opinions are all equally:
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2011-05-18 10:33:08 AM  
Kirk Cameron is derided as the has-been of Evangelicals, yet he believes people care about his opinions on science. Why should anyone believe Mr. Cameron's ravings if he cannot provide evidence for his sky god?
 
2011-05-18 10:33:20 AM  

PizzaJedi81: xalres: Cameron tells us, "Professor Hawking is heralded as 'the genius of Britain,' yet he believes in the scientific impossibility that nothing created everything and that life sprang from non-life."

He adds, "Why should anyone believe Mr. Hawking's writings if he cannot provide evidence for his unscientific belief that out of nothing, everything came?"

This much ignorance should be painful.

It is painful, just not for the person for whom it should most be painful.


Yeah, seriously. I've gone crosseyed and my head hurts.
 
2011-05-18 10:38:26 AM  
There comes a point where you just have to shake your head and pity the feeble.
 
2011-05-18 10:38:39 AM  

whosits_112: PizzaJedi81: xalres: Cameron tells us, "Professor Hawking is heralded as 'the genius of Britain,' yet he believes in the scientific impossibility that nothing created everything and that life sprang from non-life."

He adds, "Why should anyone believe Mr. Hawking's writings if he cannot provide evidence for his unscientific belief that out of nothing, everything came?"

This much ignorance should be painful.

It is painful, just not for the person for whom it should most be painful.

Yeah, seriously. I've gone crosseyed and my head hurts.


They say that ignorance is bliss, so this would be like attaining Nirvana?
 
2011-05-18 10:40:11 AM  
Kirk -- who is HUGELY active in his evangelist church -- tells TMZ Hawking has no scientific evidence to back his claim that Heaven is merely a, "Fairy story for people afraid of the dark."

Well Kirk, you have no scientific evidence to back claims that Heaven isn't...so???
 
2011-05-18 10:42:50 AM  
Kirk -- who is HUGELY active in his evangelist church -- tells TMZ Hawking has no scientific evidence to back his claim that Heaven is merely a, "Fairy story for people afraid of the dark."


Dear Dr. Cameron;

You are correct we have no evidence that heaven and hell don't exist. Similarly we lack evidence on the non-existence of Valhalla, nirvana and Middle Earth. By your standard of needing evidence to show non-existence every imaginary place must exist (which is great news to 14 year old boys and writers of Penthouse Forum.) Of course you could just be a deluded twit clutching at straws.
 
2011-05-18 10:42:56 AM  

joegekko: This is the man who thought Chiquita bananas were proof that God exists, and that He loves us.

So, you know. Grain of salt and all that.


Bananas aren't that good. Now, Ben Franklin mentioned something about beer...
 
2011-05-18 10:43:41 AM  
a lovely bunch of coconuts
 
2011-05-18 10:44:00 AM  
god vs science... winner takes all... this sunday in hell in the cell.. two sets of beliefs enter only one shall leave...

/my money is on the half man half robot stephen "speak and spell" Hawking
 
2011-05-18 10:45:13 AM  
I still love the Banana thing, because it was genetically created by scientists, which totally blew his whole argument out of the water. Then again, people like this usually say it was God's will or God planted the idea in the scientists, and that further proves their argument...
 
2011-05-18 10:46:24 AM  
I was just thinking of the picture of Cameron holding up the Crocaduck picture with that stupid look on his face. Anyone? Please?
 
2011-05-18 10:46:38 AM  

joegekko: This is the man who thought Chiquita bananas were proof that God exists, and that He loves us.

So, you know. Grain of salt and all that.


www.bay-of-fundie.com
Crocoduck is displeased with your glaring omission.

CROCODUCK!!!
 
2011-05-18 10:47:30 AM  
I take Kirk Cameron and TMZ equally seriously.
 
2011-05-18 10:47:48 AM  
He adds, "Why should anyone believe Mr. Hawking's writings if he cannot provide evidence for his unscientific belief that out of nothing, everything came?"


So his big argument is basically that since Professor Hawking has no evidence that heaven doesn't exist... it must exist, even though there's also no evidence that it does exist.

That's some weapons-grade stupid right there.

Boy he really, really WANTS to believe. I think that inside he's just absolutely brimming with doubts about his faith, and that terrifies him, which is why he spends so much energy twisting logic into tortured Euclidean curves in order to try and keep himself convinced enough to function each day.
 
2011-05-18 10:48:24 AM  

mutterfark: whosits_112: PizzaJedi81: xalres: Cameron tells us, "Professor Hawking is heralded as 'the genius of Britain,' yet he believes in the scientific impossibility that nothing created everything and that life sprang from non-life."

He adds, "Why should anyone believe Mr. Hawking's writings if he cannot provide evidence for his unscientific belief that out of nothing, everything came?"

This much ignorance should be painful.

It is painful, just not for the person for whom it should most be painful.

Yeah, seriously. I've gone crosseyed and my head hurts.

They say that ignorance is bliss, so this would be like attaining Nirvana?


Cameron should acheive Nirvana the same way Cobain did...
 
2011-05-18 10:48:39 AM  

ole prophet: Kirk -- who is HUGELY active in his evangelist church -- tells TMZ Hawking has no scientific evidence to back his claim that Heaven is merely a, "Fairy story for people afraid of the dark."

Well Kirk, you have no scientific evidence to back claims that Heaven isn't...so???


That's the beauty of creationism. You can make insane claims and don't need to back them up with any evidence whatsoever because it's a matter of faith. However, when some uppity scientist type disproves or disagrees with something you're claiming, no amount of proof or evidence they present is ever good enough.

Example: "The fossil record is incomplete! Evolution is wrong. If evolution really happened there would be transitional fossils!"

"Er...okay, here's two transitional fossils."

"Well, where's the transitional fossils between those two? SEE?! God did it!"

"You're ignorant of the way evolution works..."

"What? That's my FAITH! PERSECUTION!!!!"
 
2011-05-18 10:49:52 AM  
Not that I doubt the big bang, but it is true that the cause/substance of the big bang has zero verifiable evidence. It's entirely speculation, so at this point, until more information is discovered, an atheist should doubt every theory on the origin of the universe exactly as much as they doubt the existence of god.
 
2011-05-18 10:50:26 AM  

whosits_112: xalres: Cameron tells us, "Professor Hawking is heralded as 'the genius of Britain,' yet he believes in the scientific impossibility that nothing created everything and that life sprang from non-life."

He adds, "Why should anyone believe Mr. Hawking's writings if he cannot provide evidence for his unscientific belief that out of nothing, everything came?"

This much ignorance should be painful.

Soooooo, he wants evidence, yet his evidence is a book written, re-written, re-re-written (etc. etc.), and translated into many different languages over many centuries. I don't think he has any room to talk. What an asshole.


Isn't that considered hearsay?
 
2011-05-18 10:50:30 AM  

kungfu jesus with a side of lime: god vs science... winner takes all... this sunday in hell in the cell.. two sets of beliefs enter only one shall leave...


Sure pick the day after the rapture™ so there is no one left to argue for god.
 
2011-05-18 10:50:49 AM  
I really liked Kirk, up until he started shaking all the time. Now he's always trying to get people to donate money for his disease.
 
2011-05-18 10:54:33 AM  

joegekko: This is the man who thought Chiquita bananas were proof that God exists, and that He loves us.

So, you know. Grain of salt and all that.


Well, to be fair........
i486.photobucket.com
 
2011-05-18 10:56:57 AM  

whosits_112: xalres: Cameron tells us, "Professor Hawking is heralded as 'the genius of Britain,' yet he believes in the scientific impossibility that nothing created everything and that life sprang from non-life."

He adds, "Why should anyone believe Mr. Hawking's writings if he cannot provide evidence for his unscientific belief that out of nothing, everything came?"

This much ignorance should be painful.

Soooooo, he wants evidence, yet his evidence is a book written, re-written, re-re-written (etc. etc.), and translated into many different languages over many centuries. I don't think he has any room to talk. What an asshole.


The funny part is the book tells the story of how everything came from nothing, life from non-life. So all the book really adds to Hawking's viewpoint is an invisible dude, who just farks with people, for no god damned reason, using ultimate magic.
 
2011-05-18 10:57:04 AM  
Kirk Cameron and Stephen Hawking?!?

That pretty much covers the entire spectrum of human intellect.
 
2011-05-18 10:57:20 AM  
www.damnedifgodexists.com
 
2011-05-18 11:00:42 AM  

PsyLord: whosits_112: xalres: Cameron tells us, "Professor Hawking is heralded as 'the genius of Britain,' yet he believes in the scientific impossibility that nothing created everything and that life sprang from non-life."

He adds, "Why should anyone believe Mr. Hawking's writings if he cannot provide evidence for his unscientific belief that out of nothing, everything came?"

This much ignorance should be painful.

Soooooo, he wants evidence, yet his evidence is a book written, re-written, re-re-written (etc. etc.), and translated into many different languages over many centuries. I don't think he has any room to talk. What an asshole.

Isn't that considered hearsay?


I say "hearsay", he says "heresy". Let's call the whole thing off!
 
2011-05-18 11:02:33 AM  

whosits_112: mutterfark: whosits_112: PizzaJedi81: xalres: Cameron tells us, "Professor Hawking is heralded as 'the genius of Britain,' yet he believes in the scientific impossibility that nothing created everything and that life sprang from non-life."

He adds, "Why should anyone believe Mr. Hawking's writings if he cannot provide evidence for his unscientific belief that out of nothing, everything came?"

This much ignorance should be painful.

It is painful, just not for the person for whom it should most be painful.

Yeah, seriously. I've gone crosseyed and my head hurts.

They say that ignorance is bliss, so this would be like attaining Nirvana?

Cameron should acheive Nirvana the same way Cobain did...


I think Krist is free but Grohl has a lot of projects already
 
2011-05-18 11:04:23 AM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Not that I doubt the big bang, but it is true that the cause/substance of the big bang has zero verifiable evidence. It's entirely speculation, so at this point, until more information is discovered, an atheist should doubt every theory on the origin of the universe exactly as much as they doubt the existence of god.


It's my understanding that we've got a complete picture of how things looked shortly after the big-bang. Like, microseconds.

It's WTF happened before that we don't know.

Maybe there's an explanation for "time zero" now, but I'm not aware of it. Granted, my knowledge of physics tends to lag about 40-60 years behind current developments.
 
2011-05-18 11:04:38 AM  

whosits_112: mutterfark: whosits_112: PizzaJedi81: xalres: Cameron tells us, "Professor Hawking is heralded as 'the genius of Britain,' yet he believes in the scientific impossibility that nothing created everything and that life sprang from non-life."

He adds, "Why should anyone believe Mr. Hawking's writings if he cannot provide evidence for his unscientific belief that out of nothing, everything came?"

This much ignorance should be painful.

It is painful, just not for the person for whom it should most be painful.

Yeah, seriously. I've gone crosseyed and my head hurts.

They say that ignorance is bliss, so this would be like attaining Nirvana?

Cameron should acheive Nirvana the same way Cobain did...


A couple years work in studio, coupled with some post-production time, editing, marketing and cover design?
 
2011-05-18 11:04:47 AM  

Tickle Mittens: whosits_112: xalres: Cameron tells us, "Professor Hawking is heralded as 'the genius of Britain,' yet he believes in the scientific impossibility that nothing created everything and that life sprang from non-life."

He adds, "Why should anyone believe Mr. Hawking's writings if he cannot provide evidence for his unscientific belief that out of nothing, everything came?"

This much ignorance should be painful.

Soooooo, he wants evidence, yet his evidence is a book written, re-written, re-re-written (etc. etc.), and translated into many different languages over many centuries. I don't think he has any room to talk. What an asshole.

The funny part is the book tells the story of how everything came from nothing, life from non-life. So all the book really adds to Hawking's viewpoint is an invisible dude, who just farks with people, for no god damned reason, using ultimate magic.


Yeah. So, God created Adam from the Earth (dust, clay, whatever) and breathed life into him. Sounds like Adam is just a fancy Golem. TOTALLY LEGIT.
 
2011-05-18 11:06:20 AM  
It would be nice if Stephen Hawking clearly delineated between his personal opinion and scientific fact when speaking to reporters.

Then no one would have to get upset.

/Has no problem with Mr. Cameron disagreeing with Mr. Hawking's opinion on the existence of heaven.
 
2011-05-18 11:06:23 AM  

xalres: ole prophet: Kirk -- who is HUGELY active in his evangelist church -- tells TMZ Hawking has no scientific evidence to back his claim that Heaven is merely a, "Fairy story for people afraid of the dark."

Well Kirk, you have no scientific evidence to back claims that Heaven isn't...so???

That's the beauty of creationism. You can make insane claims and don't need to back them up with any evidence whatsoever because it's a matter of faith. However, when some uppity scientist type disproves or disagrees with something you're claiming, no amount of proof or evidence they present is ever good enough.

Example: "The fossil record is incomplete! Evolution is wrong. If evolution really happened there would be transitional fossils!"

"Er...okay, here's two transitional fossils."

"Well, where's the transitional fossils between those two? SEE?! God did it!"

"You're ignorant of the way evolution works..."

"What? That's my FAITH! PERSECUTION!!!!"


There's a video on Youtube where Richard Dawkins debates the head of Focus on the Family at their headquarters in DC. It contains one particularly bizarre exchange where the FoF lady brings up the "why are there no transitions in the human fossil record?" lie, and Dawkins, not believing what he is hearing, replies, "there ARE human transitional fossils, in fact, right here in DC, in a museum a few blocks away from where we are standing right now. The entire line from homo erectus, through ergaster, habilis, etc up through modern man. We can go see them right now."

Caught, the FoF lady falls back on sheer, flat-out plugging the ears denial. "No, that's not true, why can't science show the transitions, etc". Dawkins keeps responding "we CAN go see them, let's go right now, its only a few blocks away" while she continues to just say no, repeat the lie, and deny, deny, deny.

It was bizarre; like watching one person claim the sky is blue, which the other could see just by inclining the head just a little bit, while the other person looks stubbornly at the ground steadfastly insisting the sky is red.

It was.... yeah. Bizarre.
 
2011-05-18 11:07:00 AM  

PizzaJedi81: whosits_112: mutterfark: whosits_112: PizzaJedi81: xalres: Cameron tells us, "Professor Hawking is heralded as 'the genius of Britain,' yet he believes in the scientific impossibility that nothing created everything and that life sprang from non-life."

He adds, "Why should anyone believe Mr. Hawking's writings if he cannot provide evidence for his unscientific belief that out of nothing, everything came?"

This much ignorance should be painful.

It is painful, just not for the person for whom it should most be painful.

Yeah, seriously. I've gone crosseyed and my head hurts.

They say that ignorance is bliss, so this would be like attaining Nirvana?

Cameron should acheive Nirvana the same way Cobain did...

A couple years work in studio, coupled with some post-production time, editing, marketing and cover design?


moistD: whosits_112: mutterfark: whosits_112: PizzaJedi81: xalres: Cameron tells us, "Professor Hawking is heralded as 'the genius of Britain,' yet he believes in the scientific impossibility that nothing created everything and that life sprang from non-life."

He adds, "Why should anyone believe Mr. Hawking's writings if he cannot provide evidence for his unscientific belief that out of nothing, everything came?"

This much ignorance should be painful.

It is painful, just not for the person for whom it should most be painful.

Yeah, seriously. I've gone crosseyed and my head hurts.

They say that ignorance is bliss, so this would be like attaining Nirvana?

Cameron should acheive Nirvana the same way Cobain did...

I think Krist is free but Grohl has a lot of projects already


I was thinking more of a bullet in the head, actually. Shame on me for thinking I was clever LOL.
 
2011-05-18 11:09:23 AM  
cdn03.cdn.thesuperficial.com
 
2011-05-18 11:09:56 AM  

joegekko: This is the man who thought Chiquita bananas were proof that God exists, and that He loves us.

So, you know. Grain of salt and all that.


That argument sounds good to me. I love Chiquita bananas.
 
2011-05-18 11:10:27 AM  

BroadbandGremlin: It would be nice if Stephen Hawking clearly delineated between his personal opinion and scientific fact when speaking to reporters.

Then no one would have to get upset.

/Has no problem with Mr. Cameron disagreeing with Mr. Hawking's opinion on the existence of heaven.


It wouldn't make a lick of difference and you know it.

Besides, most people of slightly below average intelligence or better would understand that the existence vel non of heaven is a point of philosophy, not subject to scientific study.

Of course, that would necessarily exclude Kirk Cameron. So his confusion there is understandable.
 
2011-05-18 11:11:25 AM  
Just because Hawking is a scientist, doesn't mean that everything he says is meant to be a scientific statement.

He is allowed opinions on things outside of physics.
 
2011-05-18 11:12:22 AM  
So, this is what I'm confused about. What was the actual evidence that Stephen Hawking had? And why does he care? Why is Fark all excited about this? ANSWER ME INTERNETS!
 
2011-05-18 11:14:56 AM  

gilgigamesh: xalres: ole prophet: Kirk -- who is HUGELY active in his evangelist church -- tells TMZ Hawking has no scientific evidence to back his claim that Heaven is merely a, "Fairy story for people afraid of the dark."

Well Kirk, you have no scientific evidence to back claims that Heaven isn't...so???

That's the beauty of creationism. You can make insane claims and don't need to back them up with any evidence whatsoever because it's a matter of faith. However, when some uppity scientist type disproves or disagrees with something you're claiming, no amount of proof or evidence they present is ever good enough.

Example: "The fossil record is incomplete! Evolution is wrong. If evolution really happened there would be transitional fossils!"

"Er...okay, here's two transitional fossils."

"Well, where's the transitional fossils between those two? SEE?! God did it!"

"You're ignorant of the way evolution works..."

"What? That's my FAITH! PERSECUTION!!!!"

There's a video on Youtube where Richard Dawkins debates the head of Focus on the Family at their headquarters in DC. It contains one particularly bizarre exchange where the FoF lady brings up the "why are there no transitions in the human fossil record?" lie, and Dawkins, not believing what he is hearing, replies, "there ARE human transitional fossils, in fact, right here in DC, in a museum a few blocks away from where we are standing right now. The entire line from homo erectus, through ergaster, habilis, etc up through modern man. We can go see them right now."

Caught, the FoF lady falls back on sheer, flat-out plugging the ears denial. "No, that's not true, why can't science show the transitions, etc". Dawkins keeps responding "we CAN go see them, let's go right now, its only a few blocks away" while she continues to just say no, repeat the lie, and deny, deny, deny.

It was bizarre; like watching one person claim the sky is blue, which the other could see just by inclining the head just a little bit, while the other person looks stubbornly at the ground steadfastly insisting the sky is red.

It was.... yeah. Bizarre.


pool.theinfosphere.org
But what about the transition between THOSE two fossils? See? YOU CAN'T PROVE IT!
 
2011-05-18 11:15:45 AM  

gilgigamesh: joegekko: This is the man who thought Chiquita bananas were proof that God exists, and that He loves us.

So, you know. Grain of salt and all that.


Crocoduck is displeased with your glaring omission.

CROCODUCK!!!


The Real Crocoduck

i457.photobucket.com
 
2011-05-18 11:16:14 AM  
On one hand we have a famed theoretical physicist, with more titles than most royalty, and an alphabet soup of letters after his name. Considered one of the most intelligent people alive.

On the other hand we have a guy who stared in a crappy 80's sitcom & a few bad movies based on poorly written books about the Rapture.


Hmmm... I'm going to have to put my money on the wheelchair guy.

www.sfsignal.com
 
2011-05-18 11:17:11 AM  

gilgigamesh: BroadbandGremlin: It would be nice if Stephen Hawking clearly delineated between his personal opinion and scientific fact when speaking to reporters.

Then no one would have to get upset.

/Has no problem with Mr. Cameron disagreeing with Mr. Hawking's opinion on the existence of heaven.

It wouldn't make a lick of difference and you know it.

Besides, most people of slightly below average intelligence or better would understand that the existence vel non of heaven is a point of philosophy, not subject to scientific study.

Of course, that would necessarily exclude Kirk Cameron. So his confusion there is understandable.


=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

The problem is that when Stephen Hawking makes statements, he makes them with authority. His IQ, past work, and accolades are well known. Many people might just assume any statement from Mr. Hawking is based on empirical evidence. Perhaps such statements on heaven should start with, "It is my opinion that..."
 
2011-05-18 11:18:53 AM  

jbuist: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Not that I doubt the big bang, but it is true that the cause/substance of the big bang has zero verifiable evidence. It's entirely speculation, so at this point, until more information is discovered, an atheist should doubt every theory on the origin of the universe exactly as much as they doubt the existence of god.

It's my understanding that we've got a complete picture of how things looked shortly after the big-bang. Like, microseconds.

It's WTF happened before that we don't know.

Maybe there's an explanation for "time zero" now, but I'm not aware of it. Granted, my knowledge of physics tends to lag about 40-60 years behind current developments.


Exactly. It's a pet peave of mine when theists get all bent out of shape over the Big Bang theory. Granted it is poorly named. But, it makes no guess as to the origin of the universe. No need to feel threatened by it.
 
2011-05-18 11:23:56 AM  
All right, so listen, why don't you give me a call when you want to take things a little more seriously. Here's... my card.

i251.photobucket.com

(come on, you know the guy's probably gonna show up anyway)
 
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