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2011-05-18 12:06:50 AM  
Make content available instantly for an affordable premium and the people* will pay.

*most people
 
2011-05-18 12:16:51 AM  
If companies provide me a reasonable alternative to watch the show I want, when I want, without having to pirate it, I will. The fact is I want to encourage studios to make more of the shows I like and the way I do that is by purchasing their content.

I don't like watching it on broadcast Tv. I don't want to be tied down to my TV waiting for it to come on. I don't want to spend 20 minutes of each hour watching commercials I don't care about.

Provide me an easy and affordable way to purchase my content and watch on demand and I'll do it. Affordable is about $1-2 per episode.

However the moment they start making me jump through hoops is the moment I fire up bittorent and Pirate Bay.

Unfortunately Game of Thrones is the show I have to pirate right now. I don't have cable TV and HBO refuses to let people purchase their on demand service without also getting HBO through a company. I'll purchase the season when it comes out, but until then I pirate.
 
2011-05-18 12:29:14 AM  
But the Studios want to kill Netflix, don't they?

Guess they'd rather have people pirate their stuff than legally pay for it.

/Don't know why shows that never made it to DVD are available for streaming on Netflix, but I'm glad they are.
 
2011-05-18 12:33:05 AM  

Bunnyhat: Affordable is about $1-2 per episode.


Didn't know if you're aware but you can rent most TV episodes on iTunes for $.99 the day after they come out. If you can't rent them, you can buy most for $1.99.
 
2011-05-18 12:35:58 AM  

Bunnyhat: Unfortunately Game of Thrones is the show I have to pirate right now.


You have to pirate it? If you don't watch it, will you not be welcome in your local comic shop?
 
2011-05-18 12:59:29 AM  
Netflix streaming is tricky. They'll stream an entire television series except the pilot, season premiere, season finale, any episode part of a multi-part series, or first movie in a trilogy
 
2011-05-18 01:03:00 AM  

homeschooled: Bunnyhat: Affordable is about $1-2 per episode.

Didn't know if you're aware but you can rent most TV episodes on iTunes for $.99 the day after they come out. If you can't rent them, you can buy most for $1.99.



Yea I know, I get a lot of my shows from there or Amazon. Cept for HBO shows, cause HBO is too cool for that.

FishyFred: Bunnyhat: Unfortunately Game of Thrones is the show I have to pirate right now.

You have to pirate it? If you don't watch it, will you not be welcome in your local comic shop?



You know it dude.

But no, my friends watch it, I loved the books, I want to be able to talk to them about the recent episode. I simply don't want to pay $80 a month to resubscribe to cable and then HBO just for the one show.
 
2011-05-18 03:59:59 AM  
Services like Netflix and Hulu are mostly great, but only when combined with piracy. You will always need to be able to download the occasional series or episode that paid services screw you out of. For example, I don't think the last season of Dexter is on Netflix yet.
 
2011-05-18 04:04:28 AM  

homeschooled: Make content available instantly for an affordable premium and the people* will pay.

*most people


I picked up streaming Netflix last month and, for me, it's well worth the money. I only downloaded a handful of movies prior to getting netflix, but now I have absolutely no reason to pirate. I can wait for the new releases while I watch all the other content.

Obviously, there are people who want to watch new releases RIGHT NOW and that's a market that could be tapped into. It seems smarter to use a carrot instead of a stick on pirating. Give people an incentive to stop by providing a good alternative.
 
2011-05-18 04:07:35 AM  

Bunnyhat: If companies provide me a reasonable alternative to watch the show I want, when I want, without having to pirate it, I will. The fact is I want to encourage studios to make more of the shows I like and the way I do that is by purchasing their content.

I don't like watching it on broadcast Tv. I don't want to be tied down to my TV waiting for it to come on. I don't want to spend 20 minutes of each hour watching commercials I don't care about.

Provide me an easy and affordable way to purchase my content and watch on demand and I'll do it. Affordable is about $1-2 per episode.

However the moment they start making me jump through hoops is the moment I fire up bittorent and Pirate Bay.

Unfortunately Game of Thrones is the show I choosehave to pirate right now. I don't have cable TV and HBO refuses to let people purchase their on demand service without also getting HBO through a company. I'll purchase the season when it comes out, but until then I pirate.

 
2011-05-18 04:09:26 AM  
Netflix+Hulu+chinese streaming sites+carpet=all my needs.
 
2011-05-18 04:12:03 AM  
I resubscribed to Netflix because they added the streaming. It was such a pain to mail DVDs back or wait for DVDs that never seemed to be available. It's just not worth the hassle of torrenting stuff if I can get it easy at a low monthly price.
 
2011-05-18 04:17:38 AM  
So, how long until the RIAA/MPAA get Congress to make Netflix illegal?
 
2011-05-18 04:19:35 AM  

OnmyojiOmn: Services like Netflix and Hulu are mostly great, but only when combined with piracy. You will always need to be able to download the occasional series or episode that paid services screw you out of. For example, I don't think the last season of Dexter is on Netflix yet.


The last season of Dexter sucked. Do yourself a favor and leave it alone. Remember the first four and move on. Well, except the one with Jimmy Smits.
 
2011-05-18 04:46:00 AM  
I'm in Japan and Netflix won't let me stream here. I kinda miss it. Hulu also denies me access.

I feel no remorse watching their shows, anyway.

In the states, I used my Xbox360 for Netflix more than anything else. Great service. Now make it available overseas!
 
2011-05-18 05:00:03 AM  

Accolade: I'm in Japan and Netflix won't let me stream here. I kinda miss it. Hulu also denies me access.

I feel no remorse watching their shows, anyway.

In the states, I used my Xbox360 for Netflix more than anything else. Great service. Now make it available overseas!


It's called a proxy, try it. If that doesn't work, try a Boxy.


I just get stuff that isn't on Netflix from other available sources. What those are, I can not say.
 
2011-05-18 05:19:45 AM  
I torrented Netflix.

Wrap your head around that.
 
2011-05-18 05:35:11 AM  
I tried Netflix streaming but there's simply not enough content, and half of the "content" they do have must have been uploaded with a smirk from the Netflix staff.

I'm simply not going to deal with DVDs because a couple of old farks in suits don't want to get with the times. Sorry, life is too short to concern myself with your dumb shiat. I think I'll just pirate while you're thinking it over, fellas, kthx.
 
2011-05-18 05:36:05 AM  

Accolade: I'm in Japan and Netflix won't let me stream here. I kinda miss it. Hulu also denies me access.

I feel no remorse watching their shows, anyway.

In the states, I used my Xbox360 for Netflix more than anything else. Great service. Now make it available overseas!


DD-WRT+StrongVPN=FTW

/living in Germany
//stupid geo-ip blocks are stupid
 
2011-05-18 05:37:48 AM  
Yup, if I had access to that in Germanistan I'd do it instead of pirating shows, but when shows decide to make it difficult for me to give them money to watch it online then I have no qualms with pirating.
 
2011-05-18 06:36:02 AM  
The survey is from Sandvine, a company that makes money by processing specifics on internet traffic. Don't know if it is hardware, software, consulting, ect.

Link (new window)

I also heard from the RIAA that all bittorrent traffic is for stealing music.
 
2011-05-18 06:44:00 AM  
What is "secure tunneling?" Sounds like a gerbil reference.
 
2011-05-18 06:52:12 AM  

Bunnyhat: But no, my friends watch it,


If I thought talking about this show with my firends was so important I would, I don't know, go to their house to watch it?
 
2011-05-18 07:12:11 AM  

liam76: Bunnyhat: But no, my friends watch it,

If I thought talking about this show with my firends was so important I would, I don't know, go to their house to watch it?


But isn't that the same as stealing?!?! It's bio-p2p!

/This is an outrage!!!
 
2011-05-18 07:14:10 AM  
www.lynescreations.com


What about ART-TORRENT Subby?
 
2011-05-18 07:21:53 AM  
Nah, I'll stick to having them all saved on an HTPC to watch whenever I want regardless of internet connectivity so it's not always dependent on my ISP and the content provider (Netflix, Hulu, etc). That and one less corporation with my personal info.

You have fun though.
 
2011-05-18 07:27:37 AM  

homeschooled: Make content available instantly for an affordable premium and the people* will pay.

*most people


I stopped paying for Netflix when they switched from having a DVD to watch on PS3 to DVD less. I have my PS3 jailbroken and Netflix won't run until I have the latest PS3 Firmware now.
 
2011-05-18 07:30:13 AM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: Netflix streaming is tricky. They'll stream an entire television series except the pilot, season premiere, season finale, any episode part of a multi-part series, or first movie in a trilogy


It depends on the series. For example, I was able to watch all of Lost and the new BSG through streaming (except a couple of the one off specials like Razor), but old shows like Quantum Leap or Emergency skipped a few episodes. Fortunately I have the disc option (usually use it for movies for the children) so I popped the pilot and final of Quantum Leap into the disc que, but it is annoying.

/now have every episode of Cheers and Twilight Zone in my que.
//love being able to download an episode of Twilight Zone as the mood strikes
 
2011-05-18 07:34:53 AM  

Hydrostatic_Equilibrium: I have my PS3 jailbroken


It never ceases to amaze me that people hack their machines without buying a spare first.

/not that I can afford two
 
2011-05-18 07:43:03 AM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: Netflix streaming is tricky. They'll stream an entire television series except the pilot, season premiere, season finale, any episode part of a multi-part series, or first movie in a trilogy


They seem to be getting better. I wanted to watch BSG awhile ago, but the first 2 mini series were only available via disk, they are now available via streaming so can now watch it.

/yeah, I know they had the disks, but reserve those for the kids
 
2011-05-18 08:19:38 AM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: Netflix streaming is tricky. They'll stream an entire television series except the pilot, season premiere, season finale, any episode part of a multi-part series, or first movie in a trilogy


I remember reading a while back that the reason for this is the movie/tv studios and the music studios being a bunch of asses. Has to do with a particular song being played in the background for 33 seconds and the usage rights on that song allow for it to be rented/viewed on physical media, but not streamed.

Very stupid and just goes to show how out of touch and off in space the big entertainment production firms are. Instead of embracing new technology and realizing that folks will gladly fork over cash to have instant access to their entire library's, they are being continuing to be difficult.
 
2011-05-18 08:38:51 AM  

beer4breakfast: OnmyojiOmn: Services like Netflix and Hulu are mostly great, but only when combined with piracy. You will always need to be able to download the occasional series or episode that paid services screw you out of. For example, I don't think the last season of Dexter is on Netflix yet.

The last season of Dexter sucked. Do yourself a favor and leave it alone. Remember the first four and move on. Well, except the one with Jimmy Smits.


Just curious, what didn't you like about the season? The only problems I personally had with the season was a couple of times that Dexter acted out of character (killing the asshole in the bathroom out of anger for Rita's death, for instance) but overall, it was pretty good. At least as good as the second and third season. The best season was season 4 with ol Lithgow, but I imagine it will be hard to top that. It's pretty watchable tv, and better than most everything else.

/Breaking Bad is a better show than anything on TV right now. I can't WAIT for that to start back up.
 
2011-05-18 08:39:59 AM  
Netflix has singlehandedly replaced cable in my house and its fantastic, and I'm more than willing to wait for stuff not available yet while discovering things I may not have watched while it was on tv.

For example, I didn't watch the Office on tv, on a whim I watched on netflix and immediately devoured the other seasons. So much so my boyfriend and I get severely upset when we reach the end of a good series because we know it'll be a while before we can see more. The same happened with Arrested Development, Parks and Recreation, 30 Rock, Spartacus...
 
2011-05-18 08:52:54 AM  

Your Favorite Token Black Chick: Netflix has singlehandedly replaced cable in my house and its fantastic, and I'm more than willing to wait for stuff not available yet while discovering things I may not have watched while it was on tv.


Exactly that. Now my only worry is that Comcast is going to do something stupid, price-wise or service-wise, with their cable internet service.

Between Netflix and Hulu and the occasional mumble mumble, I can watch pretty much whatever I want, whenever I want. Which is aweseome. You know what's even MORE awesome? I actually spend less time in front of the TV now that I can't mindlessly flip channels.
 
2011-05-18 09:06:51 AM  
It's amazing that an affordable service that offers quality viewing with relatively little hassle is doing so well.
 
2011-05-18 09:11:11 AM  
I don't quite have enough bandwidth speed for Netflix to stream smoothly apparently. Tried the free trial, but cancelled before it was over, because the video was so jerky. Audio was fine though.

Whenever there is nothing on TV, I still have more than enough to watch at my fingertips however. My DVD and Blu-ray collection is overflowing my shelves. Never torrented anything.

Expecting the Blu-rays of seasons 1-3 of "The Twilight Zone" from Amazon to arrive sometime today...
 
2011-05-18 09:13:05 AM  

Your Favorite Token Black Chick: Netflix has singlehandedly replaced cable in my house and its fantastic, and I'm more than willing to wait for stuff not available yet while discovering things I may not have watched while it was on tv.

For example, I didn't watch the Office on tv, on a whim I watched on netflix and immediately devoured the other seasons. So much so my boyfriend and I get severely upset when we reach the end of a good series because we know it'll be a while before we can see more. The same happened with Arrested Development, Parks and Recreation, 30 Rock, Spartacus...


Same deal at our house. Tried netflix and a Roku box before cutting the cable. Less than a month later the cable went bybye. We have watched some pretty cool (and some pretty awful) stuff that we would have never even checked before. It's fun to see what can be found, even when the found thing is terrible.

\Roku has Amazon for streaming new releases.
 
2011-05-18 09:13:07 AM  

frepnog: beer4breakfast: OnmyojiOmn: Services like Netflix and Hulu are mostly great, but only when combined with piracy. You will always need to be able to download the occasional series or episode that paid services screw you out of. For example, I don't think the last season of Dexter is on Netflix yet.

The last season of Dexter sucked. Do yourself a favor and leave it alone. Remember the first four and move on. Well, except the one with Jimmy Smits.

Just curious, what didn't you like about the season? The only problems I personally had with the season was a couple of times that Dexter acted out of character (killing the asshole in the bathroom out of anger for Rita's death, for instance) but overall, it was pretty good. At least as good as the second and third season. The best season was season 4 with ol Lithgow, but I imagine it will be hard to top that. It's pretty watchable tv, and better than most everything else.

/Breaking Bad is a better show than anything on TV right now. I can't WAIT for that to start back up.


Oh, GIVE ME A farkING BREAK, you could at least put some spoiler warnings on that. I know it ended last fall, but some of us might've not had a chance to watch it.

Now I know that Rita dies. Thanks.
 
2011-05-18 09:13:36 AM  

gozar_the_destroyer: If that doesn't work, try a Boxy.


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2011-05-18 09:14:29 AM  
Came to make a comment, but it's been made about eleventy-billion times already. Look, RIAA, when there's reasonable distribution, people will CHOOSE not to pirate. Who'da thunk?
 
2011-05-18 09:22:53 AM  
SPOILER?

frepnog:
ust curious, what didn't you like about the season? The only problems I personally had with the season was a couple of times that Dexter acted out of character (killing the asshole in the bathroom out of anger for Rita's death, for instance) but overall, it was pretty good. At least as good as the second and third season. The best season was season 4 with ol Lithgow, but I imagine it will be hard to top that. It's pretty watchable tv, and better than most everything else.

I don't know. Aside from last season, this was my favorite Dexter. And the bathroom scene was probably my favorite sequence from the show, as a whole. I'll admit I even teared up a little--it was like four years (from the viewer's perspective) of the frustration of having to lie every moment of every day to everyone he cared about all bubbled out to that single moment.
 
2011-05-18 09:24:37 AM  

PerilousApricot: Oh, GIVE ME A farkING BREAK, you could at least put some spoiler warnings on that. I know it ended last fall, but some of us might've not had a chance to watch it.

Now I know that Rita dies. Thanks.


It happened a year and a half ago in season 4, that's past the cutoff for a spoiler warning IMO.
 
2011-05-18 09:35:15 AM  

Chevello: Same deal at our house. Tried netflix and a Roku box before cutting the cable. Less than a month later the cable went bybye. We have watched some pretty cool (and some pretty awful) stuff that we would have never even checked before. It's fun to see what can be found, even when the found thing is terrible.

\Roku has Amazon for streaming new releases.


This is pretty much what I did too. Right now the only must-see-now series for me are Community and Doctor Who. Even after buying a small antenna for local stations (which all come in far better quality than they ever did with cable), a Roku box, Netflix with a few DVDs a month, and a season pass for Doctor Who on Amazon I'm still saving hundreds of dollars a year. I have access to more stuff than I could ever have time to watch before even more new stuff comes out.
 
2011-05-18 09:37:01 AM  
Good: Makes the MPAA STFU
Bad: Give you ISP a excuse to lower your cap
 
2011-05-18 09:41:10 AM  

PoochUMD: PerilousApricot: Oh, GIVE ME A farkING BREAK, you could at least put some spoiler warnings on that. I know it ended last fall, but some of us might've not had a chance to watch it.

Now I know that Rita dies. Thanks.

It happened a year and a half ago in season 4, that's past the cutoff for a spoiler warning IMO.


It IS apparently your opinion. It'd be different if it had been out forever, but it was just released on DVD over Christmas last year... Given that (from comments on here) nobody has showtime around these parts, 6 months from DVD release to giving away the plot isn't that much time.

I had just discovered Dexter recently and was watching through it, but now a gigantic plot point's been revealed. Thanks a lot, guys. I really appreciate it.
 
2011-05-18 09:51:33 AM  

LaserShark: So, how long until the RIAA/MPAA get Congress to make Netflix illegal?


This, sadly...
 
2011-05-18 09:51:42 AM  

I just watched the whole series of "Life on Mars - US Version" on Netflix Stream, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.


I like Netflix Streaming more for the tv shows than movies. If Netflix just added all the episodes of a show instead of slowly adding season as a streaming option, I might downgrade my cable options.

 
2011-05-18 09:57:08 AM  
They'll attack Internet sourced tv no matter if we pay or not.

What is happening now is customers are shifting from monthly cable charges to a download on demand system.
More than a few big companies will do their best to keep the inevitable from happening.

That, and the robo-lawsuit filing industry wants it's share....
 
2011-05-18 09:59:27 AM  
No matter how good Netflix and Hulu Premium get I will still have to Pirate Top Gear.
 
2011-05-18 10:00:05 AM  
Rational people would arrive to the conclusion that the major reason torrent become popular was that people have no alternative to it in term of digital delivery . Then comes Netflix. Remind me of iTunes. Unfortunately RIAA and MPAA are not rational.
 
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