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(Oregon Live)   It turns out the mother who claimed her daughters lived in constant medical peril and got a free house from "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition" out of it may have been lying   (oregonlive.com) divider line 157
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2011-05-15 06:26:33 PM
I wasn't at all surprised that they suspect Munchausen by proxy.

That being said, I hope this doesn't deter Extreme Makeover: Home Edition from helping truly deserving families.
 
2011-05-15 10:06:09 PM
That show is creepy and seems like the least efficient, and maximally cynical way to help people. "I just love being able to GIVE BACK with Tyvek(tm) sheetrock and Behr Home Paints."
 
2011-05-15 10:06:10 PM

Bathia_Mapes: I wasn't at all surprised that they suspect Munchausen by proxy.

That being said, I hope this doesn't deter Extreme Makeover: Home Edition from helping truly deserving families.


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More and more are turning out to be frauds. Just like the family that kicked out all the foster kids as soon as they got the new house.
 
2011-05-15 10:09:25 PM
but the show makes middle American republicans FEEL better! They don't need the government to help poor people, corporations can do that!
 
2011-05-15 10:09:50 PM
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Sometimes people lie to get free stuff.
 
2011-05-15 10:10:13 PM
Yeah, take struggling, dysfunctional families and just give them a huge house with huge property taxes because that'll solve all their problems. Instead of, you know, maybe paying some medical bills, hiring a therapist, or even a financial advisor to help them live within their means.
 
2011-05-15 10:10:43 PM

StopLurkListen: That show is creepy and seems like the least efficient, and maximally cynical way to help people. "I just love being able to GIVE BACK with Tyvek(tm) sheetrock and Behr Home Paints."


Yeah they even mentioned in the article they had to move because they couldn't afford their "free" home thanks to the maintenance. What a nutty way to help the needy.

Also if the home really was "mold-filled" like the article mentioned only once, then it was worth replacing.

Both of those are separate from the mother's screwball behavior.
 
2011-05-15 10:11:48 PM

Bathia_Mapes: That being said, I hope this doesn't deter Extreme Makeover: Home Edition from helping truly deserving families.


I haven't seen the show in a really long time but on the last episode that I watched they had built a needy family a large house with highly specific (to their interests) bedrooms that seemed like they would make the house really difficult to sell in the future without extensive renovations.

It's nice to see such families get a house makeover but I can't help but think that it might screw them over eventually.

/I say this without knowing exactly how they are provided for financially as far as the house and payments go
 
2011-05-15 10:11:54 PM
Wow, really interesting article. Too bad this thread will be filled with morons giving their opinions about some crap TV show.
 
2011-05-15 10:12:08 PM
This show built a house for a family in my neighborhood about a year ago. They're nice folks and the house is pretty cool.

/CSB
 
2011-05-15 10:13:23 PM

Zoomaster: More and more are turning out to be frauds. Just like the family that kicked out all the foster kids as soon as they got the new house.


And more and more are being put into this situation:
They said they couldn't afford the increased cost of operating the larger home. By fall 2009, the house was for sale and the family moved to Oregon, where the parents that television producers found so compelling came under scrutiny.

How about building them something reasonable.
 
2011-05-15 10:14:15 PM
A modern mother over-estimating the fragility of her kids? People lying to get expensive, cool stuff for free? Damn, who would've thought?
 
2011-05-15 10:14:43 PM
I really want to see a "where are they now?" episode revisiting the families a year later.

How many of the houses have been sold or repossessed?
 
2011-05-15 10:15:50 PM
Next you'll tell me that kids are getting pregnant just to get on some MTV show.
 
2011-05-15 10:16:03 PM
The comments from some of the posters are weapons-grade Woo Crazy.
 
2011-05-15 10:16:15 PM
The real problem is that these type of "mothers" often will actually poison their kids in order to make them sick. So you can't even trust the diagnoses because she could have been causing them.

I blame the dad in this case though. He should be able to figure out if his wife is acting weird. I can see where he might have let it get out of hand, but once child welfare was asking questions he should have been too. Seems like he's leaving all the parenting to the wife, to the detriment of the kids.
 
2011-05-15 10:17:33 PM
If you had problems with breathing would you move from Las Vegas to Oregon?
Humid spore filled damp air?
 
2011-05-15 10:20:37 PM
FTA it says their old Vegas home was filled with mold...mold is a problem in Vegas? Is anything there even old enough in 4% humidity to grow mold?
 
2011-05-15 10:20:44 PM
This is child abuse. Why the judge allowed the mother to retain custody is just baffling.
 
2011-05-15 10:21:45 PM
Are there ever any follow-up shows showing how the family in need paid the taxes on the new house (which, if it's more valuable than their old one, counts as income)? Getting something for free is great, but only until tax season.

"You've won a brand new house!" = "You owe thousands more in income taxes this year!"
 
2011-05-15 10:21:48 PM

joe not appearing in this picture: If you had problems with breathing would you move from Las Vegas to Oregon?
Humid spore filled damp air?


I imagine she moved to Oregon so she could indulge her medical fetish on the taxpayer's dime, courtesy of the Oregon Health Plan.
 
2011-05-15 10:21:57 PM

Bathia_Mapes: I wasn't at all surprised that they suspect Munchausen by proxy.

That being said, I hope this doesn't deter Extreme Makeover: Home Edition from helping truly deserving families.


Yeah, it would be a shame to lose Extreme Makeover: Home Edition over something so trivial as this.
 
2011-05-15 10:22:05 PM
During my pediatrics rotation I had to deal with a mother who was obsessed with the idea that her daughter had neurocysticercosis. The kid was 100% fine. I wanted to smack the mom.
 
2011-05-15 10:22:49 PM
Approves:
mimg.ugo.com
 
2011-05-15 10:23:19 PM
I forgot new show,
Extreme Whack over, Crack pot edition.
(I blame Svengoolie for my humor.)
 
2011-05-15 10:23:34 PM

Dr. Nick Riviera: During my pediatrics rotation I had to deal with a mother who was obsessed with the idea that her daughter had neurocysticercosis. The kid was 100% fine. I wanted to smack the mom.


WebMD has basically done more harm than good by this point, what with all the nutty moms projecting all sorts of symptoms onto their kids.
 
2011-05-15 10:24:43 PM

fanbladesaresharp: FTA it says their old Vegas home was filled with mold...mold is a problem in Vegas? Is anything there even old enough in 4% humidity to grow mold?


She kept the swamp cooler on 24 hours a day, all year? That would probably make the kids sick all by itself.
 
2011-05-15 10:25:44 PM
They were just asking for trouble when they gave Rachel Corrie that bungalow in Gaza.
 
2011-05-15 10:28:37 PM
You know what sucks about that show? They only help people who ALREADY OWN A HOUSE by GIVING THEM A BETTER F♥CKING HOUSE!

What about us apartment dwellers that can't even get a house these days? How about you build some of these free houses for us? How about instead of incredible, gadget-wonder houses for people who already have a place to live, you make twice as many nice, normal, new houses for people who don't already have a house?

Like I want to watch a show where people who have a house whine about being sick, or having a bad roof, or some other thing so they can get an improved house for free? F♥ck that.

You might as well just make a show on ABC about finding wealthy people and giving them a big f♥cking bag of money.
 
2011-05-15 10:28:44 PM
So, I actually went and read the article. Its disheartening to see that mom is legally allowed to pick up and run with the kids and subject them to court and medically determined unnecessary procedures. I hope it doesn't kill the girls and I hope, at some point, they are able to escape and see their mom for who she is.
 
2011-05-15 10:29:19 PM
I absolutely despise that show.
 
2011-05-15 10:30:50 PM

Longtime Lurker: but the show makes middle American republicans FEEL better! They don't need the government to help poor people, corporations can do that!


Seriously? You make some Olympic-level mental gymnastics in a lame attempt to turn this into a political thread? Really?

/Put down the bong once in a while and maybe not so much Chomsky and Michael Moore. You'll feel better.
 
2011-05-15 10:33:56 PM

gadian: So, I actually went and read the article. Its disheartening to see that mom is legally allowed to pick up and run with the kids and subject them to court and medically determined unnecessary procedures. I hope it doesn't kill the girls and I hope, at some point, they are able to escape and see their mom for who she is.


So, I actually did too. This family is farrkkked up. Those poor kids. But I guess Oregon can't intervene out of state. That's exactly what we don't need--CPS agencies with interstate jurisdiction, fighting with each other. They're scary enough already.
 
2011-05-15 10:35:24 PM
They built an Extreme Makeover house around the block from my former place. Beautiful home, which stuck out like a sore thumb in the neighborhood. The building process was a PITA for residents of the neighborhood (closed streets, traffic afterward, all kinds of shiat). I didn't really know the family before or after, but some of the gang of a million people they had living in their home went to school with my daughter.

/Cool story, sis
 
2011-05-15 10:35:26 PM
I liked the episode where they blew up the old house with 300 sticks of tnt.
A little, OK a LOT of showboating. I think they overdo the size of the house most of the time.
 
2011-05-15 10:35:43 PM

gadian: Yeah, take struggling, dysfunctional families and just give them a huge house with huge property taxes because that'll solve all their problems.


JerkStore: Are there ever any follow-up shows showing how the family in need paid the taxes on the new house


This show built a house in my neighborhood a while ago and the family is still in it. They don't really seem like the type that would lose their house to something like not paying property taxes.

And this is in Mississipppi which (as all farkers like to assume) is the poorest and stupidest of all states.

/And don't mind starting sentences with articles.
 
2011-05-15 10:36:57 PM

ZeroCorpse: What about us apartment dwellers that can't even get a house these days?


Have you tried getting a job?

:P

/Love IHC BTW.
 
2011-05-15 10:38:24 PM

32oz High Life: ZeroCorpse: What about us apartment dwellers that can't even get a house these days?

Have you tried getting a job?

:P

/Love IHC BTW.


Getting a job is harder than getting a house these days.
 
2011-05-15 10:41:29 PM
ZeroCorpse
You know what sucks about that show? They only help people who ALREADY OWN A HOUSE by GIVING THEM A BETTER F♥CKING HOUSE!

What about us apartment dwellers that can't even get a house these days?...


You know what, I sold my house in CA to move here for a job deal. Sold that house a year later to move closer to the office and now I'm in a 3-bedroom apt. It's a little over-sized, but I like having one for sleeping, one for guests, and an office. Fraction of the cost of a house in Scottsdale too, and I get an overlook of the pool with room on the balcony to grow some herbs, billiards room, indoor basketball, weight room, media center...
Where was I going... oh yeah - apartments aren't all that bad! Especially when you can text the office to change a flippin' light-bulb ;)

/doughnuts and juice at the gates on Fridays!
 
2011-05-15 10:45:40 PM
gadian: Yeah, take struggling, dysfunctional families and just give them a huge house with huge property taxes because that'll solve all their problems.

My understanding is that in addition to the new home, they are given money for increased expenses, such as higher property taxes and utilities. Perhaps a decade down the road when that money runs out they'll have an issue, but not immediately.
 
2011-05-15 10:47:50 PM

jst3p: Approves:


Leaving satisfied.
 
2011-05-15 10:48:50 PM
We need the good old days where we could work at a fast food joint flipping burgers and the bank would give you a huge loan to buy a big house. Oh wait that didn't work did it?
 
2011-05-15 10:48:54 PM

mephisto6: ZeroCorpse
You know what sucks about that show? They only help people who ALREADY OWN A HOUSE by GIVING THEM A BETTER F♥CKING HOUSE!

What about us apartment dwellers that can't even get a house these days?...

You know what, I sold my house in CA to move here for a job deal. Sold that house a year later to move closer to the office and now I'm in a 3-bedroom apt. It's a little over-sized, but I like having one for sleeping, one for guests, and an office. Fraction of the cost of a house in Scottsdale too, and I get an overlook of the pool with room on the balcony to grow some herbs, billiards room, indoor basketball, weight room, media center...
Where was I going... oh yeah - apartments aren't all that bad! Especially when you can text the office to change a flippin' light-bulb ;)

/doughnuts and juice at the gates on Fridays!


Who is your property management company? Sounds like someone I used to work for.

Also, i've worked for extreme make over, so I'm getting a kick...
 
2011-05-15 10:49:35 PM

joe not appearing in this picture: I liked the episode where they blew up the old house with 300 sticks of tnt.
A little, OK a LOT of showboating. I think they overdo the size of the house most of the time.


I don't watch this show, but the few times I've caught some of it, the houses seem ridiculous. They have all kinds of tacky crap for the kids (aren't they going to grow out of that in a few years?), and dumb faddy touches that no average person would want in their homes forever. And the houses are way too big. Maybe the 'average' American thinks he should live in a 4000-square house, but come on. Give these people something realistic, not a fantasy house with a fish pond in the living room.
 
2011-05-15 10:50:45 PM

darkscout: Zoomaster: More and more are turning out to be frauds. Just like the family that kicked out all the foster kids as soon as they got the new house.

And more and more are being put into this situation:
They said they couldn't afford the increased cost of operating the larger home. By fall 2009, the house was for sale and the family moved to Oregon, where the parents that television producers found so compelling came under scrutiny.

How about building them something reasonable.


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FROM WIKI, I know not the best source, but I'm right and going to bed now.

/play nice


Another criticism aimed at the show surrounds financial issues that some of the families have had after receiving the home makeover, the majority of which have been found to be grossly exaggerated or completely untrue altogether. The most common allegation is that most of the families have sold their houses due to their inability to pay for them, and that some have even gone into foreclosure. In fact, as of November 2010, all but three of the 150+ families helped by the show still reside in the houses given to them. Two of the families, the Hebert and Hassall Families, sold their houses voluntarily, while the third family, the Harper Family, did lose their house to foreclosure, but not because they could not afford it. The family decided to start a construction business and, in order to secure the loan needed to do so, they used their house as collateral with their bank. Due to the recent recession, the business failed, and the house was auctioned off. A few other families, including the Wofford, Vardon and Marrero families, have had some struggles, but most sources specifically point out that these troubles have little to do with the show or the makeover. Most, like those of millions of other American families, are due to the recent recession
 
2011-05-15 10:51:08 PM
There have been too many episodes where the house they demolish looks pretty damn good already.
 
2011-05-15 10:51:33 PM
Actually, hold on.

FTFA: "The TV program paid to demolish the family's mold-filled house and replace it with an opulent new home that included high-quality air filtration systems, an elevator, solar-heated swimming pool, gourmet kitchen and floor-to-ceiling stone fireplace."

Um, why? I can understand the air filtration system, if the girls actually had the autoimmune disease, but why the rest? What is the benefit? And if the girls really could be harmed by the air, why a fireplace?

I don't understand the excess.
 
2011-05-15 10:52:56 PM

Turfshoe: I really want to see a "where are they now?" episode revisiting the families a year later.

How many of the houses have been sold or repossessed?


This.

/follow up show
//I can haz?
 
2011-05-15 10:53:17 PM
www.artst.org


etc.usf.eduwww.transferonline.com
 
2011-05-15 10:55:45 PM
People lie in reality and that made it to reality tv? Shocking.
 
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