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(Washington Post)   Ten things the world would be better off without. Yes, "The Simpsons," smartphones, and engagement rings are included. The rest aren't so obvious   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 205
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2011-05-15 06:13:49 PM
kukukupo: Auto-tune is a 100% agree, though. It has ruined music, and everyone thinks they can 'sing' now.

It's because it's being used as an instrument instead of a tool. When used correctly, you don't notice it. I use it myself to gently tweak individual syllables where I have been flat or sharp. If the amount of tweaking I have to do causes the effect to be noticeable, I redo the vocal part.

What I hate is all the rap and hip hop artists cranking all of the dials to 11 for the entire vocal part. It sounds idiotic. In a few years, anything with that sound is going to be dated and laughed at even by fans of hip hop.

Luckily, the music it has ruined was crap to begin with.

Oh yeah, and I agree that the list is useless without religion.
 
2011-05-15 06:15:46 PM
rhaver: Auto-Tune - Listen to them live, that's how you can tell if they really suck or not.


Auto-tune can be used in realtime, it is prevelant in live shows too.
 
2011-05-15 06:19:10 PM
jabelar: In contrast an electrical engineering Bachelor's degree is going to start you at at least $80k per year.

WHERE!? I am a lifelong Electro-mechanical Technician and I havent seen a Junior Engineer, much less an RCG, make $80K. I work for one of the largest R&D/Manufacturing brain tanks and we hire RCGs all the time at $30-35K. I make double what any starting Engineer makes.

Let me know where these joints are at. I will pass the info to all my still unemployed Engineer friends that went back to school to keep their loans from coming due.
 
2011-05-15 06:20:32 PM
Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Hey, subby, go easy on Yes, okay? They're old guys doing the best they can.

this, love me some Yes
 
2011-05-15 06:21:54 PM
The world would be better off without Your Average Witty Fark User.
 
2011-05-15 06:25:15 PM
shadowself: rhaver: Auto-Tune - Listen to them live, that's how you can tell if they really suck or not.


Auto-tune can be used in realtime, it is prevelant in live shows too.


Either way, this is like being pissed that Bob Dylan went electric.... or maybe more like sausage.... I don't want to know how it's made, so long as the final product is good.

/MmMmMm sausage... aaaagggg
 
2011-05-15 06:27:43 PM
This is why everybody hates journalists. If you can't just tell me what happened in the world, don't. I don't need a list of things that annoy you posed as news.

/It's not news.... I get it. STFU.


//and get off my lawn, asshat. You're crushing the lilacs.
 
2011-05-15 06:28:35 PM
skinink: No smartphones? Go back to the past, hippy writer. Just the fact that my phone can also replace the map that I'd have to carry for locating places and that (at least for Android) Google GPS Navigation works really well even over EDGE, I'd have to say smartphones are worth every penny.
I didn't get the big deal over smartphones either, but after using one for four months there are just so many apps that makes things easier.


I for one enjoy my G2 smartphone and Android based apps. I welcome my non-evil Google overlords and hope they're tracking me right now.
 
2011-05-15 06:35:45 PM
kukukupo: Seniority based firing absolutely has to stay.

Seniority-based firing/pay/etc. is bad for everyone, or at least everyone that's any good at their job -- it means that if you've been in a job for 10 years you can't move because you'll give up all your seniority-based benefits. Under that system, even with 10 years experience your boss can still treat you like crap, so long as it's slightly better than other bosses treat newbies, because you don't have any other options. In fact, poorly-qualified people are given incentive to move to a job where they are well-qualified, rather than incentive to simply lay low until they're high enough up the seniority chain to avoid getting fired.

Compare this to a system were we just pay/firing/etc. people based on merit. Under that system well-qualified people are free to move from employer to employer without losing all their accumulated "seniority" and poorly-qualified people can't weasel their way into higher pay/more security just by showing up for a enough consecutive years.

Seniority-based firing/pay systems also create a damaging feedback loop -- employees fired because of their lack of seniority then go to another company and are fired again next layoff season for their continuing lack of seniority. Try that cycle for ~5 years and tell me how well you like seniority-based firing.
 
2011-05-15 06:35:51 PM
ivelostfaithinhumanity: Ive got some:

Paying people to have kids.
The phrase 'think outside the box'.
Synergy.
Weekly staff meetings.((staff meetings should only be held on every other leap year, that way there is enough time in between them to come up with something else to talk about))
Insurance companies that want me to think working for them would be a good idea.
Spandex/stretchy pants that come in sizes that should never be worn.
Westboro Baptist Church
People taking thier kids shopping after 11pm.
The phrase "the customer is always right'.
Outsourcing to other countries.
Training people from other countries to do your job so they can be outsourced.
CEOs getting 'preformance' bonuses while they drive a company so far into the ground not even Satan knows where the hell it went.


you forgot paradigm shift
 
2011-05-15 06:49:17 PM
dennysgod: They could replace "Smartphones" with "religion" and I'd be OK with this list, but to be honest you can't have a good "things we'd be better off without" with a number less then 25.

We could do without people confusing "then" and "than"
 
2011-05-15 06:49:49 PM
CashMoneyGifford: FTFA:
We are what we eat - but our landfills are full of what we don't eat. And that's a problem.

Decomposition does not work that way!
But actually everything in landfills does not decompose.
 
2011-05-15 07:09:31 PM
How about adding "shiatty lists disguised as journalism"?

I mean, really, smart phones? If you don't like them, you don't have to have one. Similarly, no one is forced to watch the Simpsons.

And leftovers? Is the "writer" (typist) saying we should overeat even more and become fatter, or throw the food we don't eat away? I don't see much else to do that rids us of leftovers. I guess we could feed the leftovers to family pets or something, but I'm not sure that addresses the issue of waste really...

Stupid, pointless, porrly thought-out article. A waste of time to all who click.
 
2011-05-15 07:14:29 PM
EighthundredmillionthFarker: Engagement rings: Agree to buy less expensive engagement rings. If she's putting you in debt for 20 years because of the rock, find someone else.

Democracy: Still means something hopeful to plenty of less fortunate countries around the world. Leave it alone.

Smartphones: A device that replaces gaming consoles, home phones, calculators, paper, calendars, maps, etc etc? Are you kidding me?

The Simpsons: When Matt says it's time, it'll be time.

Tipping: 10% for bad service, 20 for spectacular, 15 the rest of the time. Ain't broke, needs no fixing.

Auto-tune: The only one I might agree with, but it keeps many people with no musical tastes away from the shows that I go to.

Leftovers: Seriously?

Stability: A little broad of a concept to just do away with, isn't it?

Small talk: can't get to big talk without small talk first.

Seniority-based firing: sure, whatever.


I agree with this. Need to enable voting!!!! Fark needs a "Like" button.
 
2011-05-15 07:17:47 PM
eatin' fetus: Yeah. Little known secret: women LOVE prenups

Only the poor ones marrying into money. Not really a secret, more like a tax writeoff.
 
2011-05-15 07:18:05 PM
My mental image of the "no more small talk" lady is of a super skinny, tiny boobed, short spikey haired girl in mini skirt, tights, boots and 3 layers of unmatching tops of varying sleeve length who also finds other people distasteful.
 
2011-05-15 07:20:16 PM
Remove "Simpsons" from the list and add "Reality TV Shows"
 
2011-05-15 07:20:35 PM
Bunnyhat: Marriage as a whole needs to change.
It's clearly no longer something that should be remotely considered 'to death do we part'. Acting optimistic is great, but don't be an idiot. Couples should have to plan ahead of time what happens in case of a divorce. This will cut down the sheer amount of legal issues each case can get into.


What a romantic notion?

"Marriage is a duel to the death which no man of honor should decline" - GKC
 
2011-05-15 07:21:28 PM
FeedTheCollapse: kukukupo: Auto-tune is a 100% agree, though. It has ruined music, and everyone thinks they can 'sing' now.

though I agree, the latter sentiment is where I disagree. I don't think anyone really, truly thins autotune sounds natural. I think it's approached more like a guitar effect... a very annoying and shrill guitar effect.



Used judiciously, it can save a take. And you'd never know it was done. And they had a picture of Cher, so obligatory yadda vocoder meh:
Link
 
2011-05-15 07:27:56 PM
elliemooneyham: My mental image of the "no more small talk" lady is of a super skinny, tiny boobed, short spikey haired girl in mini skirt, tights, boots and 3 layers of unmatching tops of varying sleeve length who also finds other people distasteful.

Now I can't unsee that.
 
2011-05-15 07:52:00 PM
TravisBickle62: Imo marriage should be for 2 years with option to renew.

What I've noticed my friends doing getting married when they decide they want to have children together. If you don't have children you can go your separate ways. Once you do, then you're stuck with each other.

elliemooneyham: My mental image of the "no more small talk" lady is of a super skinny, tiny boobed, short spikey haired girl in mini skirt, tights, boots and 3 layers of unmatching tops of varying sleeve length who also finds other people distasteful.

Often the question must be asked, who doesn't want five minutes in the closet with that girl?

do_want.jpg

\Leaf blowers. Seriously.
 
2011-05-15 08:01:49 PM
ThisNameSux: I'd take smartphones off the list and add homosexuals.

I have never gone from thinking "this" to thinking "wtf?" that quickly before.
 
2011-05-15 08:23:28 PM
BigLuca: thomps: engagement rings can go suck a dick - the worst concept ever devised by man.

I don't think "man" had much to do with them.


Other than paying for them...
 
2011-05-15 08:30:49 PM
The problem with the Simpsons is that the characters never age and you have 10 year old Bart and 8 year old Lisa referencing 20+ years of life experience. Meanwhile the show has no teeth compared to Futurama, South Park, and Family Guy and most of the funny you can wring out of the existing lineup has pretty much been wrung out. They should spin Fat Tony off into his own show and end the Simpsons.
 
2011-05-15 08:40:40 PM
Trapper439: ThisNameSux: I'd take smartphones off the list and add homosexuals.

Internet trolls.

ThisNameSux's smelly and overweight Mom constantly pestering me about when we're holding the next bukkake night.


I have to agree with him. How else do you think Sara Jessica Parker gets work?! I'm ok with spacing 5-7 percent of the populace if I never have to see here on my TV again
 
2011-05-15 09:00:08 PM
The Simpsons have embiggened our culture with cromulent humor.
 
2011-05-15 09:06:05 PM
Daddy's Big Pink Man-Squirrel: ThisNameSux: I'd take smartphones off the list and add homosexuals.

Everything's better when you add homosexuals.


Rim jobs for everyone :-p
 
2011-05-15 09:12:50 PM
OlderGuy: BigLuca: thomps: engagement rings can go suck a dick - the worst concept ever devised by man.

I don't think "man" had much to do with them.

Other than paying for them...


touche.
 
2011-05-15 09:18:07 PM
Your Average Witty Fark User: The world would be better off without Your Average Witty Fark User.

You're half right.
 
2011-05-15 09:31:44 PM
"The Simpsons"
Don't have a cow - we're just tired of a 20-plus-year-old cartoon that still thinks it's edgy and relevant. Salon TV critic Matt Zoller Seitz says it's time to wipe Springfield (wherever it is) right off the map.


Funny, I've been thinking the same thing about Salon for about 20 years.
 
2011-05-15 09:31:59 PM
elliemooneyham: Fark needs a "Like" button.

Something like this?

i105.photobucket.com
 
2011-05-15 10:04:26 PM
FloydA: elliemooneyham: Fark needs a "Like" button.

Something like this?


YES.

/I would have just liked it, if I could have.
 
2011-05-15 10:10:20 PM
There is NOTHING wrong with my phone. It has made my day-to-day easier and more entertaining. I never wanted to talk to any of you strangers anyway.
 
2011-05-15 10:47:28 PM
Englebert Slaptyback: RandomExcess

No Tea Party?


No Pea Tarty?


d.yimg.comd.yimg.com

What are you talking about? These two were awesome.

Although Jeff's a bit of a roly-poly man these days.
 
2011-05-15 10:53:10 PM
Tipping would be high on my list. I hate it with a passion.
 
2011-05-15 10:56:31 PM
20/20: Tipping would be high on my list. I hate it with a passion.

Howcome?
 
2011-05-15 11:33:59 PM
Twilight
Justin Bieber
The Brady Campaign
Smoking Bans
State Liquor Stores
Those Skanky Rug Merchants....a.k.a. The Kardashians
 
2011-05-16 12:04:07 AM
Viva Italia: ivelostfaithinhumanity: Working on the weekends needs to be on that list. Seriously only entertainment venues should be open those days and gas stations. Everyone else should be closed.

For that matter lets add people who say 'I cant believe you are working today' as they load a shopping cart full of crap. In fact... lets make it legal to beat them with a nine iron until they get some sense.

This. This. This. Back when I used to work for a restaurant I was surprised by all the people that CAME IN to the place on Christmas Eve, New Year's Eve, etc. and told us how it sucked we had to work. I could never tell if they were dumb or faking sympathy.

/Agree that tipping should be replaced with honest wages/appropriate prices.


When I worked at Starbucks we had the option of working Thanksgiving, X-Mas and New Years at time and a half. Which honestly for someone like myself who isn't religious nor gives a damn about New Years or Thanksgiving it was pretty sweet.

Though the sheer number of people who'd bring their entire families in on Christmas was astounding. Why the hell can't you brew up your own coffee one day a year? Cool that almost everyone came as a family or with someone but is it really necessary to go to Starbucks?

/ate at Denny's last Christmas eve
//tipped very, very well
///found out an old friend worked there
 
2011-05-16 12:08:30 AM
elliemooneyham:
I agree with this. Need to enable voting!!!! Fark needs a "Like" button.


I appreciate that... Thanks! (one of the only times that I ever took more than 2 minutes to post a comment)
 
2011-05-16 12:32:01 AM
Uncle Pim: Seniority-based firing already doesn't exist. Most places have a way of getting rid of bad teachers, but it requires a review board and an improvement plan for the teachers instead of just letting the teacher go at will. And teachers that don't have tenure can be let go at will anyway.

/the anti-union bs of late is mind-bottling
//not union


You sound like you might enjoy this LA Times article (new window) and some of the less wharrgarble comments.

Starry Heavens: Aarontology: We are what we eat - but our landfills are full of what we don't eat. And that's a problem.

Compost that shiat. Then use it to grow your own vegetables if you have the space.

Yeah, that is a much better answer than "no leftovers." Leftovers make it easier for people to eat more cheaply, more healthily, and with less time spent on cooking. Plus, the author didn't link to the studies she was referring to, but at least some of them count things like corn husks as being food that's thrown out. Composting helps with that; fewer leftovers doesn't.


Also they lump restaurant waste with home waste. lolwhut? Don't blame me for managers who can't budget well, just because I occasionally toss out a tomato and half-head of lettuce after a couple weeks. Unsurprisingly, fine dining establishments are the worst wasters by far.
 
2011-05-16 12:37:40 AM
mexicymru: What are you talking about? These two were awesome.

Although Jeff's a bit of a roly-poly man these days.


I like your taste in music. :)
 
2011-05-16 01:14:47 AM
FloydA: Your Average Witty Fark User: The world would be better off without Your Average Witty Fark User.

You're half right.


Oh no, I'm fully correct. That's the joke.
 
2011-05-16 01:40:57 AM
did anyone notice the pic of the smartphone?

the caption says:
"Would we be better off without iPhones everywhere?"

but the pic is of the new Samsung Galaxy II...

Android is utterly dominating the game, but dumbarse reporters are too far behind the technology to determine the difference.
LOL
 
2011-05-16 02:13:55 AM
The only thing I agreed with was "auto-tune".

All the rest are suggestions from douchebags. Yes, I'm also looking at you, Ted.
 
2011-05-16 02:55:17 AM
GPS is making us dumber. And by "us", I mean "you".

You have been warned, smartphoners.
 
2011-05-16 03:43:46 AM
pigeonstopper: GPS is making us dumber. And by "us", I mean "you".

Funny story. I did my senior project on GPS signal decoding, which lead to work in robotics and spatial awareness (such as using GPS to acquire an initial position, then using dead reckoning to predict future coordinates in the event GPS signal was lost. Useful for things like bomb robots that get sent indoors). This in turn lead to avionics and the use of inertial systems for navigation, as inertial systems are purely internal and nearly impossible to jam once you have acquired your initial position. Now most of my day is spent at a flight simulator with a few weeks every year in a paid condo on the beach when I'm sent to Hurlburt.

Just because you can see it making you dumber doesn't mean it makes everyone that way.
 
2011-05-16 04:06:27 AM
11. Me.
 
2011-05-16 08:37:52 AM
justpredictions.webs.com
 
2011-05-16 09:48:48 AM
Servers depend on tips to live. The restaurant pays them dollars less than minimum wage. Tips are their income. Period.

WE KNOW!!!!!
 
2011-05-16 10:10:53 AM
pigeonstopper: GPS is making us dumber. And by "us", I mean "you".

You have been warned, smartphoners.


How about a smartphone that calls you a douche for texting instead of actually paying attention to the person trying to converse with you. I swear common courtesy's become an alien concept to some people.
 
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