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2011-05-10 04:20:14 PM
Stephen king can't write television often.
 
2011-05-10 04:25:49 PM
There's only so much you can do with zombie stories.

The dead wake, a virus or plague infects people, radiation causes zombiism, some dude is in a coma and wakes up to find the city deserted and any of the previous causes has turned people and/or corpses into the walking/shambling/or running dead.

Yawn.
 
2011-05-10 04:47:34 PM
Don't do it.

As much as I love and respect King, he desperately needs to be put out to pasture. His recent stuff is unreadable.
 
2011-05-10 04:49:32 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: There's only so much you can do with zombie stories.

The dead wake, a virus or plague infects people, radiation causes zombiism, some dude is in a coma and wakes up to find the city deserted and any of the previous causes has turned people and/or corpses into the walking/shambling/or running dead.

Yawn.


All that stuff has been established already in fact those tropes are what makes a zombie survival story. What you need writers for is the interactions of the human survivors. There's a lot of drama when you have 8 people in a life raft built for 4.

There's already a love triangle, a man betrayed and abandoned (and batshiat insane), a likely but very inconvenient pregnancy. Good writers can exploit that and still throw in the occasional random zombie menace.
 
2011-05-10 04:52:06 PM

One Bad Apple: random zombie menace.


That's what my mom called me in high school.
 
2011-05-10 04:54:57 PM
Oh and if King gives you a script say "Thanks Steve" and when he's not looking tear out the last 4 or 5 pages and burn them without ever so much as glancing at them. Trust me nothing of value will be lost.


I like most of King's stuff but the guy just can bring anything to an end without it looking dumber than a monkey farking a football.
 
2011-05-10 06:50:06 PM

One Bad Apple: Oh and if King gives you a script say "Thanks Steve" and when he's not looking tear out the last 4 or 5 pages and burn them without ever so much as glancing at them. Trust me nothing of value will be lost.


I like most of King's stuff but the guy just can bring anything to an end without it looking dumber than a monkey farking a football.


Pretty much this. His novels always fall apart in the third act.
 
2011-05-10 06:55:09 PM

One Bad Apple: Oh and if King gives you a script say "Thanks Steve" and when he's not looking tear out the last 4 or 5 pages and burn them without ever so much as glancing at them. Trust me nothing of value will be lost.


I like most of King's stuff but the guy just can bring anything to an end without it looking dumber than a monkey farking a football.


I liked The Mist because the director decided to change the ending (I won't spoil it). King agreed it was a better ending to the story too.
 
2011-05-10 06:57:43 PM
So we will have 9 episodes of filler and start up material going into excruciating detail of how people live, 2 chapters of zombie attacks and a final chapter that ends everything but makes little sense at all.
 
2011-05-10 07:00:15 PM
Wasn't there a comic already released? What is wrong with using that?
 
2011-05-10 07:03:15 PM

RoxtarRyan: Wasn't there a comic already released? What is wrong with using that?


There is some cool stuff from the book they could use. I stopped reading the book (busy with freaking work) but I need to get back into it.
 
2011-05-10 07:11:03 PM

RoxtarRyan: Wasn't there a comic already released? What is wrong with using that?


They are, but at the same time Kirkman and Darabont are using the TV series to expand on the story. They're still going to get to the same places, just take a couple of detours along the way.
 
2011-05-10 07:11:04 PM

limeyfellow: So we will have 9 episodes of filler and start up material going into excruciating detail of how people live, 2 chapters of zombie attacks and a final chapter that ends everything but makes little sense at all.


Pretty much this. They'll ask him to write one episode and it'll end up being 17 hours long and he won't let anyone edit it.
 
2011-05-10 07:19:09 PM
Serial , Gunny Highway

Gotcha. I heard as much when the first season came around. I think the last thing that they need to do is go to another person, one who is known lately as writing lackluster material himself, only to ruin a series that left off rather pleasantly.
 
2011-05-10 07:24:24 PM
I'll watch it. His episode of the X-files was pretty good.
 
2011-05-10 07:39:12 PM
why not George Romero?
 
2011-05-10 07:47:26 PM

NYRBill: why not George Romero?


Why not Max Brooks?
 
2011-05-10 07:50:07 PM
NYRBill: why not George Romero?

I know that *I'd* love a cameo by Romero.
 
2011-05-10 07:57:34 PM
So they're going to find one of the character's retard relatives north of Atlanta who will save the day?
 
2011-05-10 08:06:22 PM

fusillade762: Why not Max Brooks?


isn't he getting a movie of his own?
 
2011-05-10 08:21:07 PM

Witchyman: So they're going to find one of the character's retard relatives north of Atlanta who will save the day?


Way north. Think Maine.
 
2011-05-10 08:26:41 PM

fusillade762: Witchyman: So they're going to find one of the character's retard relatives north of Atlanta who will save the day?

Way north. Think Maine.


Great. I'm going to Maine tomorrow for a funeral.

Now I have to load the mini-van up with all my zombie slaying gear.

Just in case.
 
2011-05-10 08:27:43 PM

One Bad Apple: AdolfOliverPanties: There's only so much you can do with zombie stories.

The dead wake, a virus or plague infects people, radiation causes zombiism, some dude is in a coma and wakes up to find the city deserted and any of the previous causes has turned people and/or corpses into the walking/shambling/or running dead.

Yawn.

All that stuff has been established already in fact those tropes are what makes a zombie survival story. What you need writers for is the interactions of the human survivors. There's a lot of drama when you have 8 people in a life raft built for 4.

There's already a love triangle, a man betrayed and abandoned (and batshiat insane), a likely but very inconvenient pregnancy. Good writers can exploit that and still throw in the occasional random zombie menace.


I was disappointed with the first trade paperback, which I got for Christmas. It was basically all about who's farking who, and I found that... uninteresting, I guess.

Otherwise, it's Watership Down (which might be Stephen King's favorite book). They're looking for a safe home, they find a place that seems okay, turns out it's terribly flawed, repeat until successful.
 
2011-05-10 08:29:49 PM
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2011-05-10 08:31:52 PM
I wish they would more closely stick to the main story in the comic book.

The essence of the story is that of a father attempting to protect his family, but is becoming a monster in doing so.

His son sees this, and also acts to help save his parents, but in that act is forced to mature far too early, loses the innocence of his childhood, and is afraid of losing his way.
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In the TV show, the son is merely a plot point, vs. that of being a real character and influencer of the plot.
 
2011-05-10 08:36:09 PM
Please don't. King has NEVER helped any filmed production he has had a hand in. Remember the remake of The Shining?
 
2011-05-10 08:36:49 PM

scottydoesntknow: One Bad Apple: Oh and if King gives you a script say "Thanks Steve" and when he's not looking tear out the last 4 or 5 pages and burn them without ever so much as glancing at them. Trust me nothing of value will be lost.


I like most of King's stuff but the guy just can bring anything to an end without it looking dumber than a monkey farking a football.

I liked The Mist because the director decided to change the ending (I won't spoil it). King agreed it was a better ending to the story too.


That director just happens to be Frank Darabont, executive producer of The Walking Dead.
 
2011-05-10 08:44:41 PM

Mad_Radhu: scottydoesntknow: One Bad Apple: Oh and if King gives you a script say "Thanks Steve" and when he's not looking tear out the last 4 or 5 pages and burn them without ever so much as glancing at them. Trust me nothing of value will be lost.


I like most of King's stuff but the guy just can bring anything to an end without it looking dumber than a monkey farking a football.

I liked The Mist because the director decided to change the ending (I won't spoil it). King agreed it was a better ending to the story too.

That director just happens to be Frank Darabont, executive producer of The Walking Dead.


Holy shiat, you almost made my brain explode!

/Would a zombie exploded brains?
 
2011-05-10 08:59:32 PM

Mad_Radhu: scottydoesntknow: One Bad Apple: Oh and if King gives you a script say "Thanks Steve" and when he's not looking tear out the last 4 or 5 pages and burn them without ever so much as glancing at them. Trust me nothing of value will be lost.


I like most of King's stuff but the guy just can bring anything to an end without it looking dumber than a monkey farking a football.

I liked The Mist because the director decided to change the ending (I won't spoil it). King agreed it was a better ending to the story too.

That director just happens to be Frank Darabont, executive producer of The Walking Dead.


The more you know...

I loved the film ending. It ran through my head for days afterwards.
 
2011-05-10 09:01:22 PM
King makes gratuitously stupid, hate-based, idiotic comments about Nixon, conservatives and Christians and then calls himself 'Uncle Stevie' yet AGAIN in 4...3...2...
 
2011-05-10 09:52:12 PM

MrSteve007: I wish they would more closely stick to the main story in the comic book.

The essence of the story is that of a father attempting to protect his family, but is becoming a monster in doing so.

His son sees this, and also acts to help save his parents, but in that act is forced to mature far too early, loses the innocence of his childhood, and is afraid of losing his way.

In the TV show, the son is merely a plot point, vs. that of being a real character and influencer of the plot.


You can tell all that from 6 episodes?
 
2011-05-10 09:55:41 PM
SK is the best writer, period. Can you honestly say you enjoyed Shakespeare? None of that shiat makes sense and it's barely readable. Teach King in schools and you'll have happier students.
 
2011-05-10 10:05:14 PM
No. No. Hell no. I like King, especially his short fiction, but this is too many cooks. The series need its own vision. And as stated earlier, King doesn't translate well to TV or film all that often
 
2011-05-10 10:12:25 PM

Calmamity: Don't do it.

As much as I love and respect King, he desperately needs to be put out to pasture. His recent stuff is unreadable.


I'm not a huge King fan, but I absolutely love Full Dark, No Stars. The first story started off a bit slow, but it ended with a bang, and the second story was just a non-stop thriller.

PJRart: SK is the best writer, period. Can you honestly say you enjoyed Shakespeare? None of that shiat makes sense and it's barely readable. Teach King in schools and you'll have happier students.


You get that Strawman! Yeah, kick his ass! Show that strawman who's boss! You go boy.
 
2011-05-10 10:23:54 PM
1922 was a study of a man slowly going mad. His insanity eventually costs his son and grandson's lives. And the slightly personified rats are classic King.

I agree that his stuff rarely translates well to the screen, simply because he writes SO MUCH. You could never adequately fit his stuff into a movie or show.

I'm really glad they decided to cancel the Dark Tower movie/tv. I really hated the idea of what's-his-face-with-an-accent attempting (feebly at best)to capture the pure cool that is Roland Deshain.
 
2011-05-10 10:30:22 PM

zerkalo: No. No. Hell no. I like King, especially his short fiction, but this is too many cooks. The series need its own vision. And as stated earlier, King doesn't translate well to TV or film all that often


His stuff translates well to the screen, as long as he has nothing to do with the production of it. Christine, Carrie, Shawshank Redemption, The Shining, etc. are generally considered good, and he had little to do with the finished product that made it to the screen.
 
2011-05-10 10:36:18 PM
I just finished reading book 7 not 10 minutes ago. Incredible storytelling is all I can say.
 
2011-05-10 11:59:11 PM

MagSeven: You can tell all that from 6 episodes?


There was a major point in the TV series where they diverged from the comic.

****COMIC SPOILERS****

Early on, when the father and his former partner were looking around in the woods for zombies, the partner turns the gun on the father and is about to gun him down.

In the comic, that's when the kid blows away the partner to save his dad. In the TV show, it's just a dirty look from the old man to get the partner to think twice. That's a big change to the main storyline. They've hardly touched on the situation forcing his son to be an adult and help save his parents (more specifically his dad).

****End Spoiler****
 
2011-05-11 12:10:24 AM

MrSteve007: MagSeven: You can tell all that from 6 episodes?

There was a major point in the TV series where they diverged from the comic.

****COMIC SPOILERS****

Early on, when the father and his former partner were looking around in the woods for zombies, the partner turns the gun on the father and is about to gun him down.

In the comic, that's when the kid blows away the partner to save his dad. In the TV show, it's just a dirty look from the old man to get the partner to think twice. That's a big change to the main storyline. They've hardly touched on the situation forcing his son to be an adult and help save his parents (more specifically his dad).

****End Spoiler****



-----More Spoilers---------------

I just figured they are taking a bit more time to get to that. On the show Shane hasn't reached the point of trying to kill Rick quite yet. In fact the aiming the gun at him and trying to rape Lori are the only things that separate him from being a psycho to just being a regular asshole cuckhold. In the comics, Shane was much more aggressive and arguing with Rick quite a bit more than on the show. I think him trying to force Lori is a big turn in his psychosis and if the season was more than 6 episodes we would have seen Shane bite it around the finale.
 
2011-05-11 12:13:38 AM

MrSteve007: There was a major point in the TV series where they diverged from the comic.

****COMIC SPOILERS****

Early on, when the father and his former partner were looking around in the woods for zombies, the partner turns the gun on the father and is about to gun him down.

In the comic, that's when the kid blows away the partner to save his dad. In the TV show, it's just a dirty look from the old man to get the partner to think twice. That's a big change to the main storyline. They've hardly touched on the situation forcing his son to be an adult and help save his parents (more specifically his dad).

****End Spoiler****


The director has said that one of the advantages of film format over the comics is that he can devote more time to fleshing out the story. It's all coming in time.
 
2011-05-11 12:25:44 AM

Mentat: MrSteve007: There was a major point in the TV series where they diverged from the comic.

****COMIC SPOILERS****

Early on, when the father and his former partner were looking around in the woods for zombies, the partner turns the gun on the father and is about to gun him down.

In the comic, that's when the kid blows away the partner to save his dad. In the TV show, it's just a dirty look from the old man to get the partner to think twice. That's a big change to the main storyline. They've hardly touched on the situation forcing his son to be an adult and help save his parents (more specifically his dad).

****End Spoiler****

The director has said that one of the advantages of film format over the comics is that he can devote more time to fleshing out the story. It's all coming in time.



At six episodes per year... at this rate I'll be dead before they meet T_e _o_e_n_r
 
2011-05-11 12:36:03 AM

scottydoesntknow: One Bad Apple: Oh and if King gives you a script say "Thanks Steve" and when he's not looking tear out the last 4 or 5 pages and burn them without ever so much as glancing at them. Trust me nothing of value will be lost.


I like most of King's stuff but the guy just can bring anything to an end without it looking dumber than a monkey farking a football.

I liked The Mist because the director decided to change the ending (I won't spoil it). King agreed it was a better ending to the story too.




Pew, pew, pew, pew... click.
 
2011-05-11 01:15:12 AM

EL_FABREZ: At six episodes per year... at this rate I'll be dead before they meet T_e _o_e_n_r


They first year of risky shows is often shortened (see also, Buffy the Vampire Slayer). Next season will be longer.
 
2011-05-11 01:25:53 AM
People whining about King's later stuff:

He sucked for a few years after the van accident and his "retirement."

He's gotten good again. "Full Dark, No Stars" is one of his best works in decades. You can whine that he's not the old coked-up Stephen King, but he's not the late '90s injured King anymore either.

So get a new line. Yours is old and busted.
 
2011-05-11 02:34:03 AM
Having read the collection of comics _after_ seeing the series, man was I surprised at the direction the comics went.

I swear its almost a "rocks fall, everyone dies" thing in the comics.
 
2011-05-11 03:56:04 AM
 
2011-05-11 05:14:35 AM

urban.derelict: AdolfOliverPanties: Yawn.


Fast, as in stupid zombies. I hate them. The undead shouldn't move like meth-addled lemurs.
 
2011-05-11 09:37:56 AM
Awesome, we'll finally start to see well rounded characters that make sense and are actually buoyed by great dialogue and compelling back stories. Real conflict. Real tension.

And, I can even see the finale. After overcoming enumerable obstacles and unbeatable odds, the survivors are trapped in an indefensible position with the walking, shambling horde approaching in an unstoppable wave. A few sacrifice themselves just so the others can make peace. And, once the remaining few become quietly, but not unhappily resolved to their fate....


...a tornado passes by and dumps a metric ****load of turtles on the zombies killing some, dazing a few and distracting the rest. This allows the survivors to escape and move on, we think....[cue dramatic music]....
 
2011-05-11 09:47:10 AM
Is Merle going to show up again? It was established that he had cauterized his stump.

/WHAR ROOKER WHAR?
 
2011-05-11 10:13:15 AM
When I think of zombies, I think of Stephen King... Sorry, that was supposed to say cocaine. My bad.
 
2011-05-11 10:41:20 AM
I don't remember there being a recovering alcoholic writer from New England in the comic book, so I guess they're writing that in now, too.
 
2011-05-11 11:19:52 AM

AshCampbell: When I think of zombies, I think of Stephen King... Sorry, that was supposed to say cocaine. My bad.


Why do zombies make you think of cocaine ?
 
2011-05-11 11:31:58 AM

EL_FABREZ:
At six episodes per year... at this rate I'll be dead before they meet T_e _o_e_n_r


next season will be 13 episodes.
 
2011-05-12 08:00:52 AM
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