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(Forbes)   The "greatest of all Internet laws" turns 15 this year; no, not Rule 34, but the law that shields internet computer services from being sued for stuff site users do   (blogs.forbes.com) divider line 86
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2011-05-08 07:41:34 PM  
there's a law for that? farkKKKKKKKKKKKK
 
2011-05-08 07:41:41 PM  
meetinnovators.com

Approves
 
2011-05-08 07:43:22 PM  
Wow-

Done in 2
 
2011-05-08 07:44:00 PM  
Protected sites like this: Drew Curtis is gay. NSFW
 
2011-05-08 07:44:55 PM  

Brainwash: Approves


information wants to be free
 
2011-05-08 07:46:07 PM  

Stickdeath: Protected sites like this: Drew Curtis is gay. NSFW


interesting
 
2011-05-08 07:49:27 PM  

Voiceofreason01: Brainwash: Approves

information wants to be free


Or $5 a month ;)
 
2011-05-08 07:52:02 PM  
That law is on its way out, and thank God for that.

Seriously, have you ever seen a site whose comment threads were of any value whatsoever? Of course not. Even Fark is a wretched hive of scum and trollery. Sites like YouTube are ninety percent illegal content (copyright piracy) hiding behind this law to protect their immoral business model. The 'Wild West' era of the Internet was fun while it lasted, but, if the Internet is to become a genuine boon to human communication, we need to end anonymous posting and hold sites responsible for ALL the content they host.

You do not have the right to say whatever you want, to anyone you want, without consequences in the real world. You should not have that right on the Internet.
 
2011-05-08 07:52:49 PM  
4chan users are posting pedo pics in great quantities to celebrate I guess.
 
2011-05-08 07:53:07 PM  

Stickdeath: Protected sites like this: Drew Curtis is gay. NSFW


OH GOD MY BRAIN!!!!
 
2011-05-08 07:53:23 PM  
Cubby v CompuServe FTW.
 
2011-05-08 07:55:24 PM  

Stickdeath: Protected sites like this: Drew Curtis is gay. NSFW



Damn, you need a girlfriend, some hobbies, and most importantly, to delete whatever bookmarks you own that link to gay men having sex.
 
2011-05-08 07:57:30 PM  

The guy who is trolling you right now: You do not have the right to say whatever you want, to anyone you want, without consequences in the real world.


So long as you do not engage in libel or slander, you pretty much do. Actually there's a lot less copyright infringing material on Youtube over all these days because of people posting so much of their own stuff. Plus the copyright stuff people do post, they post for the purposes of entertainment and not for the purposes of making money, it falls pretty close to fair use laws. Also, it works as free marketing for the people who have the copyrights, many of whom could give two shiats if their stuff is on youtube.
 
2011-05-08 07:57:39 PM  

D_Evans45: Stickdeath: Protected sites like this: Drew Curtis is gay. NSFW


Damn, you need a girlfriend, some hobbies, and most importantly, to delete whatever bookmarks you own that link to gay men having sex.


I saw no such thing....
 
2011-05-08 07:58:10 PM  
Godwin's Law does not approve
 
2011-05-08 07:58:14 PM  
I wonder how long this thread will last..........
 
2011-05-08 08:10:31 PM  

The guy who is trolling you right now: You do not have the right to say whatever you want, to anyone you want, without consequences in the real world. You should not have that right on the Internet.


4.bp.blogspot.com

/begs to differ with you.
 
2011-05-08 08:12:43 PM  
Didn't we all hate the Telecom Act of 1996 when it first came up for vote?

I specifically remember being told to hate it in AOL chatrooms. I cannot for the life of me remember why tho.

/you see, it's funny because it's NOT "orgy", it's "org y". n00b
 
2011-05-08 08:15:29 PM  

The guy who is trolling you right now: That law is on its way out, and thank God for that.

Seriously, have you ever seen a site whose comment threads were of any value whatsoever? Of course not. Even Fark is a wretched hive of scum and trollery. Sites like YouTube are ninety percent illegal content (copyright piracy) hiding behind this law to protect their immoral business model. The 'Wild West' era of the Internet was fun while it lasted, but, if the Internet is to become a genuine boon to human communication, we need to end anonymous posting and hold sites responsible for ALL the content they host.

You do not have the right to say whatever you want, to anyone you want, without consequences in the real world. You should not have that right on the Internet.


you sound fat
 
2011-05-08 08:15:46 PM  

The Dreaded Rear Admiral: Didn't we all hate the Telecom Act of 1996 when it first came up for vote?


That would've been the Communications Decency Act, which never even went into effect. An injunction was issued by a federal court the very day it was signed and then it ended up in the Supreme Court where it was soundly defeated. Also I remember Justice Stevens majority opinion being a thing of beauty.
 
2011-05-08 08:17:52 PM  
"Many critics now want to gut this important law by "deputizing" online operators to more aggressively police - even censor - their sites for various types of potentially objectionable online content, including: defamation, privacy concerns, pornography, and more."


Okay, if I've made any impression on anyone it's probably that I'm a Politics Tab partisan douchebag second-stringer for the Commie team. Of course I'd love to point out that these "many critics" are conservative Repubs like I'd naturally think, but ten minutes of searching hasn't shown me any initiatives like this coming from anyone.

Evidently a guy from Google is feuding with would-be censors in Italy on this very point, and there are lots of rumors about the possibility of the U.S., but I'm not finding any pro-censorship writings from legislators or "think" tanks like I'd expected... Am I missing something? Using the wrong search terms? Looking in the wrong place?
 
2011-05-08 08:22:54 PM  
Oh god, I just pictured a world where Wikipedia could be sued whenever any page is vandalized and Google could be sued for returning libelous language in a query result or image search. I liked this section before, but I feel like writing all the original sponsors a letter and thanking them, because without it the internet as I know and love it would simply never have been.
 
2011-05-08 08:23:45 PM  

TehBoognish: The guy who is trolling you right now: You do not have the right to say whatever you want, to anyone you want, without consequences in the real world. You should not have that right on the Internet.



/begs to differ with you.


Whoever that is in the picture is retarded and has obviously never shot a revolver. Put a finger in front of the gap between the cylinder and the barrel and you're fixing to hurt yourself.
 
2011-05-08 08:28:23 PM  

The guy who is trolling you right now: That law is on its way out, and thank God for that.

Seriously, have you ever seen a site whose comment threads were of any value whatsoever? Of course not. Even Fark is a wretched hive of scum and trollery. Sites like YouTube are ninety percent illegal content (copyright piracy) hiding behind this law to protect their immoral business model. The 'Wild West' era of the Internet was fun while it lasted, but, if the Internet is to become a genuine boon to human communication, we need to end anonymous posting and hold sites responsible for ALL the content they host.

You do not have the right to say whatever you want, to anyone you want, without consequences in the real world. You should not have that right on the Internet.


Trollin for big uns are we?
 
2011-05-08 08:29:14 PM  

kleppe: Whoever that is in the picture is retarded and has obviously never shot a revolver.


Not sure if serious.
 
2011-05-08 08:33:58 PM  

Sgt. Pepper: kleppe: Whoever that is in the picture is retarded and has obviously never shot a revolver.

Not sure if serious.


THIS!
 
2011-05-08 08:37:21 PM  

kleppe: TehBoognish: The guy who is trolling you right now: You do not have the right to say whatever you want, to anyone you want, without consequences in the real world. You should not have that right on the Internet.



/begs to differ with you.

Whoever that is in the picture


It's Charleton Heston.
 
2011-05-08 08:39:57 PM  

TehBoognish: kleppe: TehBoognish: The guy who is trolling you right now: You do not have the right to say whatever you want, to anyone you want, without consequences in the real world. You should not have that right on the Internet.



/begs to differ with you.

Whoever that is in the picture

It's Charleton Heston.


Nope, try again next time, thanks for playing.
 
2011-05-08 08:40:25 PM  

TehBoognish: kleppe: TehBoognish: The guy who is trolling you right now: You do not have the right to say whatever you want, to anyone you want, without consequences in the real world. You should not have that right on the Internet.



/begs to differ with you.

Whoever that is in the picture

It's Charleton Heston.


Pretty sure thats G. Gordon Liddy
 
2011-05-08 08:41:13 PM  

WhyteRaven74: The guy who is trolling you right now: You do not have the right to say whatever you want, to anyone you want, without consequences in the real world.

So long as you do not engage in libel or slander, you pretty much do. Actually there's a lot less copyright infringing material on Youtube over all these days because of people posting so much of their own stuff. Plus the copyright stuff people do post, they post for the purposes of entertainment and not for the purposes of making money, it falls pretty close to fair use laws. Also, it works as free marketing for the people who have the copyrights, many of whom could give two shiats if their stuff is on youtube.

The guy who is trolling you right now


Obvious tag surrenders.
 
2011-05-08 08:41:28 PM  

Stefanwulf: Oh god, I just pictured a world where Wikipedia could be sued whenever any page is vandalized and Google could be sued for returning libelous language in a query result or image search. I liked this section before, but I feel like writing all the original sponsors a letter and thanking them, because without it the internet as I know and love it would simply never have been.


The Internet as it is, especially the Cloud and the social aspects, would have been completely impossible were this provision/something like it not the case. The Internet is only possible with good old fashioned American ideals, and not the bullshiat current politicians try to push in the name of "security." fark their shiat.
 
2011-05-08 08:41:42 PM  

Linkster: Sgt. Pepper: kleppe: Whoever that is in the picture is retarded and has obviously never shot a revolver.

Not sure if serious.

THIS!


When a revolver is fired, gas escapes from the gap between the barrel and the cylinder. This escaping gas, especially in magnum calibers, constitutes a safety hazard to human parts, fingers, and anything else held closer to the weapon than a foot or so away. Occasionally, misalignment between the chamber and barrel causes fine slivers of metal to be shaved off and spat out sideways as well.
 
2011-05-08 08:43:23 PM  

earthworm2.0: D_Evans45: Stickdeath: Protected sites like this: Drew Curtis is gay. NSFW


Damn, you need a girlfriend, some hobbies, and most importantly, to delete whatever bookmarks you own that link to gay men having sex.

I saw no such thing....



You're equally guilty for encouraging such filth, or blind.
 
2011-05-08 08:44:41 PM  

kleppe: Linkster: Sgt. Pepper: kleppe: Whoever that is in the picture is retarded and has obviously never shot a revolver.

Not sure if serious.

THIS!

When a revolver is fired, gas escapes from the gap between the barrel and the cylinder. This escaping gas, especially in magnum calibers, constitutes a safety hazard to human parts, fingers, and anything else held closer to the weapon than a foot or so away. Occasionally, misalignment between the chamber and barrel causes fine slivers of metal to be shaved off and spat out sideways as well.


All true, but he(not giving up the Easter egg hunt)doesn't appear to have anything close to the cylinder, trigger guard maybe, cylinder no.
 
2011-05-08 08:48:24 PM  

jjhinnola: The guy who is trolling you right now: ...

Trollin for big uns are we?



He'd be a hoot if he'd chosen a sensible login.
 
2011-05-08 08:49:28 PM  

phamwaa: Obvious tag surrenders.


I was trying to further his shtick, hoping that someone would see what I wrote and take his side...
 
2011-05-08 08:50:56 PM  

Linkster: kleppe: Linkster: Sgt. Pepper: kleppe: Whoever that is in the picture is retarded and has obviously never shot a revolver.

Not sure if serious.

THIS!

When a revolver is fired, gas escapes from the gap between the barrel and the cylinder. This escaping gas, especially in magnum calibers, constitutes a safety hazard to human parts, fingers, and anything else held closer to the weapon than a foot or so away. Occasionally, misalignment between the chamber and barrel causes fine slivers of metal to be shaved off and spat out sideways as well.

All true, but he(not giving up the Easter egg hunt)doesn't appear to have anything close to the cylinder, trigger guard maybe, cylinder no.


GIS a revolver. If your finger is sitting anywhere in front of the trigger guard it's in the path of the escaping gas. It's a mistake you only make once.
 
2011-05-08 08:54:54 PM  

The guy who is trolling you right now: That law is on its way out, and thank God for that.

Seriously, have you ever seen a site whose comment threads were of any value whatsoever? Of course not. Even Fark is a wretched hive of scum and trollery. Sites like YouTube are ninety percent illegal content (copyright piracy) hiding behind this law to protect their immoral business model. The 'Wild West' era of the Internet was fun while it lasted, but, if the Internet is to become a genuine boon to human communication, we need to end anonymous posting and hold sites responsible for ALL the content they host.

You do not have the right to say whatever you want, to anyone you want, without consequences in the real world. You should not have that right on the Internet.


Do you remember that scene from Full Metal Jacket, where they're all at attention and Private Joker says, "Is this you John Wayne? Is that me?" And then Gunnery Sergeant Hartmann freaks out, and screams:

"Who said that?? WHO THE fark SAID THAT? Who's the slimy little communist sh-t, twinkle-toed cocksucker down here who just signed his own death warrant? Nobody, huh?"

Sometimes that situation occurs in real life, with the authorities or a powerful corporation. And that is why Internet anonymity should be protected, and the forums on which they are posted should be protected.
 
2011-05-08 08:55:10 PM  

kleppe: Linkster: kleppe: Linkster: Sgt. Pepper: kleppe: Whoever that is in the picture is retarded and has obviously never shot a revolver.

Not sure if serious.

THIS!

When a revolver is fired, gas escapes from the gap between the barrel and the cylinder. This escaping gas, especially in magnum calibers, constitutes a safety hazard to human parts, fingers, and anything else held closer to the weapon than a foot or so away. Occasionally, misalignment between the chamber and barrel causes fine slivers of metal to be shaved off and spat out sideways as well.

All true, but he(not giving up the Easter egg hunt)doesn't appear to have anything close to the cylinder, trigger guard maybe, cylinder no.

GIS a revolver. If your finger is sitting anywhere in front of the trigger guard it's in the path of the escaping gas. It's a mistake you only make once.


Nobody cares about your gun prowess. I'm over here living with both fear and loathing trying to figure out who that 'retard' who never fired a revolver actually is?
 
2011-05-08 08:55:35 PM  
I was taught better, HT was posing, ya think.
 
2011-05-08 08:57:08 PM  

Linkster: Sgt. Pepper: kleppe: Whoever that is in the picture is retarded and has obviously never shot a revolver.

Not sure if serious.

THIS!


That's an almost Rotsky-level display of ignorance right there. Regardless of whether kleppe is right about the finger placement and the dangers therein, he obviously doesn't understand that the photo is posed, and really, really, really obviously hasn't the slighted idea who he's accusing of not knowing how to handle a firearm, and doesn't realize what a fool he's made of himself by making that mistake.
 
2011-05-08 09:01:14 PM  

BigRightRear: kleppe: Linkster: kleppe: Linkster: Sgt. Pepper: kleppe: Whoever that is in the picture is retarded and has obviously never shot a revolver.

Not sure if serious.

THIS!

When a revolver is fired, gas escapes from the gap between the barrel and the cylinder. This escaping gas, especially in magnum calibers, constitutes a safety hazard to human parts, fingers, and anything else held closer to the weapon than a foot or so away. Occasionally, misalignment between the chamber and barrel causes fine slivers of metal to be shaved off and spat out sideways as well.

All true, but he(not giving up the Easter egg hunt)doesn't appear to have anything close to the cylinder, trigger guard maybe, cylinder no.

GIS a revolver. If your finger is sitting anywhere in front of the trigger guard it's in the path of the escaping gas. It's a mistake you only make once.

Nobody cares about your gun prowess. I'm over here living with both fear and loathing trying to figure out who that 'retard' who never fired a revolver actually is?


I wasn't talking about my gun prowess and I don't see why it matters whether or not he's just posing for a picture. Is he intentionally holding the weapon in a manner he would never use to actually shoot it? That doesn't make any sense. I see pictures like this and am genuinely amazed the people in them haven't shot themselves.
 
2011-05-08 09:03:40 PM  
Ok, I lied. It's not chuck.

Its NIXON!

/sic balls!
 
2011-05-08 09:04:13 PM  
How bout I just kill it. It's Hunter S. Thompson in the picture. Famous for Gonzo style journalism and writing Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.
 
2011-05-08 09:06:12 PM  

kleppe: BigRightRear: kleppe: Linkster: kleppe: Linkster: Sgt. Pepper: kleppe: Whoever that is in the picture is retarded and has obviously never shot a revolver.

Not sure if serious.

THIS!

When a revolver is fired, gas escapes from the gap between the barrel and the cylinder. This escaping gas, especially in magnum calibers, constitutes a safety hazard to human parts, fingers, and anything else held closer to the weapon than a foot or so away. Occasionally, misalignment between the chamber and barrel causes fine slivers of metal to be shaved off and spat out sideways as well.

All true, but he(not giving up the Easter egg hunt)doesn't appear to have anything close to the cylinder, trigger guard maybe, cylinder no.

GIS a revolver. If your finger is sitting anywhere in front of the trigger guard it's in the path of the escaping gas. It's a mistake you only make once.

Nobody cares about your gun prowess. I'm over here living with both fear and loathing trying to figure out who that 'retard' who never fired a revolver actually is?

I wasn't talking about my gun prowess and I don't see why it matters whether or not he's just posing for a picture. Is he intentionally holding the weapon in a manner he would never use to actually shoot it? That doesn't make any sense. I see pictures like this and am genuinely amazed the people in them haven't shot themselves.


Link (new window)
Be amazed no longer, you should check him out, interesting guy.
 
2011-05-08 09:09:33 PM  
I demand proof that Rule 34 applies specifically to this law!

/I also demand the shiny thing!
 
2011-05-08 09:13:33 PM  

Stefanwulf: ...I feel like writing all the original sponsors a letter and thanking them, because without it the internet as I know and love it would simply never have been.


So I went to figure out who had actually introduced section 230, and after mucking about for a while on Thomas, a friend of mine checked Wikipedia and it immediately provided the answer. It was added in committee in the House, having been proposed by Representatives Chris Cox (R-CA) and Ron Wyden (D-OR) of the 104th congress. These gentlemen deserve more credit than I bet they've ever received!
 
2011-05-08 09:19:01 PM  

Linkster: kleppe: BigRightRear: kleppe: Linkster: kleppe: Linkster: Sgt. Pepper: kleppe: Whoever that is in the picture is retarded and has obviously never shot a revolver.

Not sure if serious.

THIS!

When a revolver is fired, gas escapes from the gap between the barrel and the cylinder. This escaping gas, especially in magnum calibers, constitutes a safety hazard to human parts, fingers, and anything else held closer to the weapon than a foot or so away. Occasionally, misalignment between the chamber and barrel causes fine slivers of metal to be shaved off and spat out sideways as well.

All true, but he(not giving up the Easter egg hunt)doesn't appear to have anything close to the cylinder, trigger guard maybe, cylinder no.

GIS a revolver. If your finger is sitting anywhere in front of the trigger guard it's in the path of the escaping gas. It's a mistake you only make once.

Nobody cares about your gun prowess. I'm over here living with both fear and loathing trying to figure out who that 'retard' who never fired a revolver actually is?

I wasn't talking about my gun prowess and I don't see why it matters whether or not he's just posing for a picture. Is he intentionally holding the weapon in a manner he would never use to actually shoot it? That doesn't make any sense. I see pictures like this and am genuinely amazed the people in them haven't shot themselves.

Link (new window)
Be amazed no longer, you should check him out, interesting guy.


I'm going to leave this thread imagining that this whole exchange was a convoluted set-up for that line. It's just so perfect as to have been arranged...

/Wait, is this how truthers feel...?
 
2011-05-08 09:21:56 PM  

Farabor: I demand proof that Rule 34 applies specifically to this law!

/I also demand the shiny thing!


Text porn? Sounds like some sort naughty provision in legislature. We'll have to strip it down before it gets shoved onto the American people. We especially don't want anything rammed down the throat of those who are most vulnerable. Without a good strip down, such unorthodox provisions could result in a steaming pile of censorship on the chest of the American public. We can't hold webservices to being liable for the content of users, users who promote a carnal lust for puns and hotlinked images. We as people simply have to strap on our belt of maturity and double fist pump for joy knowing our freedom is at stake.
 
2011-05-08 09:26:28 PM  
Am I the only person who thought of Herbert Kornfeld when looking at the author's pic?

/will someone post pics, I'm on mobile
 
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