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2003-08-13 03:43:03 PM  
JAMIED77

You STILL have YET to say what your position on the RELEVANT subject matter is. Care to say that?
 
2003-08-13 03:43:07 PM  
weemill:

you have it all wrong. debating this topic made you black.
corolation=causation.
 
2003-08-13 03:43:20 PM  
Unless you have children I really dont care what you have to say about the matter..

/that is all
 
2003-08-13 03:43:25 PM  
The "source" for the Gallup Correlation/Causation poll.

I think it's evident now, that Jamie is either a troll or a farking moron.

3Horn
 
2003-08-13 03:43:47 PM  
How would a poll on whether correlation equals causation determine whether it does? If asked how many continents there are and 70% responded 11, would that mean there are 11 continents?

Also, your numbers add up to 110% so I am sure you are making it up anyway. Was that supposed to be sarcasm?
 
2003-08-13 03:45:19 PM  
Vroomazoom

Thanks. I needed that. Whew!
 
2003-08-13 03:46:17 PM  
JamieD77
Unless you have children I really dont care what you have to say about the matter..


Well, unless you can think of sex without automatically thinking of violence, then I don't care what you have to say about the matter...Perverted, sick freak.

3Horn
 
2003-08-13 03:46:53 PM  
What about the kittens??? Who will speak for them???

I still say it's the kitten lobbyists on K(itten) Street that are behind all this. George Bush never could resist a lobbyist. I have no idea whether he could resist a little pu55y......cat. ;)

/another pathetic attempt to stem the tide of flaming with levity
 
2003-08-13 03:47:23 PM  
JamieD77
It doesn't matter if we have children or not, we've already poked every single argument you've made full of holes.
Hell, you got more holes than a corpse at a necrophiliacs convention.
 
2003-08-13 03:47:35 PM  
JamieD77 :

i have children. 7 in my basement. i was going to let them go, but porn told me not to.
 
2003-08-13 03:47:35 PM  
2003-08-13 03:43:25 PM 3horn

I think it's evident now, that Jamie is either a troll or a farking moron.


Um, I'd say the latter.
 
2003-08-13 03:48:21 PM  
2003-08-13 03:43:20 PM JamieD77


Unless you have children I really dont care what you have to say about the matter..

/that is all


But what do "YOU" have to say about the matter?

/you're a troll
 
2003-08-13 03:49:29 PM  
Well, according to my data, 100% of all Farkers think JamieD77 is a schmuck.

That's a fact. Read it yourself.
 
2003-08-13 03:49:50 PM  
99.9% of pedophiles drink milk! Kill all the cows!
 
2003-08-13 03:49:54 PM  
Here's my correlation = causation thing:

Waking up causes violence.

Discuss.
 
2003-08-13 03:50:04 PM  
3Horn

thanks, here's the direct link.
 
2003-08-13 03:50:26 PM  
Generation_D-

That would be nice, if anyone is due to start depositing meatballs in left/center, its Olerud. The whole hardhat at first thing trips me out! I'm for any opposition to Yankee dominance. I'm sure my user name kinda tips my hand on that one though.
Bad news though, Wash. is in BIG trouble come college football season. Just pray none of your teams get paired up with any Big 12 teams come bowl time!
 
2003-08-13 03:50:45 PM  
The highly reputable source, Gallup Polls, Inc.,
surveyed 1009 Americans during the month of October and asked them, "Do you believe correlation implies causation?" An overwhelming 64% of American's answered "YES", while only 38% replied "NO". Another 8% were undecided. This result threatens to shake the foundations of both the scientific and mainstream community


Holy shiat! Some walmart-shopping turds think that correlation equals causation! Years of science goes down the tubes!

Goddamn you're a dumbass.
 
2003-08-13 03:51:00 PM  
weemill:

My position is that the people in the "ADULT" entertainment industries that profit off of people's addictions should by all means be prohibited, if by laws or regulation, from advertising to children and should require more than just the clicking of a "IM 18" button to enter.. The same kind of laws are applied to Cigarrettes, Alcohol and Firearms and the "Adult" industry should not be any Different
 
2003-08-13 03:51:29 PM  
JamieD77 has got to be joking.
 
2003-08-13 03:52:13 PM  
ElwoodCuse
Then we had a misunderstanding of terminology. Miller v CA is, of course, the legal founding for obscenity laws. I was speaking merely from a grammatical usage standpoint. As we all know, how lawyers interpret and use the language varies greatly from that of normal humans. :-)

JamieD77
You're really starting to melt down, aren't you? Just because a majority of Americans think that "correlation = causation" doesn't make it so. The only shakeup to the scientific community is that it's harder to explain facts to horribly misinformed people. Or are you just trying to put yourself into cozy company with everyone else who doesn't get it?
 
2003-08-13 03:52:17 PM  
further into the "article"



philosopher-king Jesse "The Mind" Ventura told reporters. "I've spent the last fifteen years in a heated philosophical debate about epistemics, and then all of the sudden Gallup comes along and says, "Average household consumption of peanut butter is up, people prefer red to blue, and...by the way, CORRELATION IS CAUSATION.

Do you know what this means? This means that good looks actually make you smarter! This means that Katie Couric makes the sun come up in the morning! This means that Bill Gates was right and the Y2K bug is Gregory's fault." Ventura was referring to Pope Gregory XIII, the 16th century pontiff who introduced he "Gregorian Calendar" we use today, and who we now know is to blame for the year 2000.

 
2003-08-13 03:52:23 PM  
Smookyfufu,

What about people who kill in their sleep?

Or people who thrash about violently whislt sleeping, knocking the living crap outta their bed-mate?

Not that I do that, mind you.

Just wanted to know how that fits into your causation/correlation hypothesis
 
2003-08-13 03:53:22 PM  
No mortisthecat, 110% of people think Jamie is a moron. In Jamies world, a percentage has to go to 110, sort of like Nigel Tufnels amp goes to 11.
 
2003-08-13 03:54:10 PM  
The same kind of laws are applied to Cigarrettes, Alcohol and Firearms and the "Adult" industry should not be any Different

The harm caused by cigarettes, alcohol, and firearms are well-known. The harm (if any) caused by porno (or violent media for that matter) has yet to be proven.
 
2003-08-13 03:54:51 PM  
JamieD77

What was the '/thats all' comment? Just a tease to make us think you were actually leaving?
 
2003-08-13 03:55:05 PM  
2003-08-13 03:51:00 PM JamieD77


weemill:

My position is that the people in the "ADULT" entertainment industries that profit off of people's addictions should by all means be prohibited, if by laws or regulation, from advertising to children and should require more than just the clicking of a "IM 18" button to enter.. The same kind of laws are applied to Cigarrettes, Alcohol and Firearms and the "Adult" industry should not be any Different


Why is that? What makes these people addicts? I like porn, but i'm not addicted to it. Sex is natural, and about as addictive as breathing or eating are (both natural as well). Why do you want to legislate what people think/feel/do? Don't you think imposing your moral values on others is wrong, and should be illegal?
 
2003-08-13 03:55:52 PM  
weemill:

And how many porn site memberships do you have?
 
2003-08-13 03:56:54 PM  
Once again, for those of you who missed it:

The "Gallup poll on Correlation Equals Causation", was a flyer for the University of Michigan's Psychology Departments weekly Happy Hour for the week of November 13, 1998, and is completely fake.

3Horn
 
2003-08-13 03:57:54 PM  
Dissent:

They're lying! They're awake the whole time! The bastards ;).
 
2003-08-13 03:58:42 PM  
2003-08-13 03:55:52 PM JamieD77


weemill:

And how many porn site memberships do you have?


Honest answer, short answer. None. I do, however download lots of porn. Its fun to scour the internet for new hotties to either whack off to, or burn to vcd and do the hibbity jibbity with my girlfriend to. There's nothing wrong with sex or sexuality. There is, however, something wrong with people who want to make life so boring that even the most natural thing in it, like sex, is taboo.
 
2003-08-13 03:58:45 PM  
3horn
You're entitled to post an "owned" picture for that sterling revelation!

JamieD77
OK, I have a kid. Will you listen to me? You're arguments are not even close to being rational. And quite frankly, it doesn't matter if anyone has a kid or not. Corellation != Causation. Period. Everything that you've posted that implies otherwise is suffering from basic flaws of science and logic. None of it works. You are imposing your own neuroses on your kids, and by so doing, taking out everyone else in the process. Now please go take a valium and a nap or something.
 
2003-08-13 03:58:46 PM  
so if popular opinion changes scientific fact, than the world has been getting rounder since 50 bc, since the percentage of the world's population that believes the world is round has been increasing, right?
 
2003-08-13 03:59:07 PM  
Well, the link provided does indeed say just what Jamie said it did. 64+38+8=110. It's either a parody site or making it up. Jamie just learned something about not believing everything you read in teh interweb.
 
2003-08-13 03:59:27 PM  
CarsonOGin
What about their friend's computers?

They've earned it, at that point...
 
2003-08-13 04:00:23 PM  
JamieD77
And how many porn site memberships do you have?


Personally, I have a ton of porn, no memberships though.

Seems to me that you should be against this sort of law, since forcing people to give credit card information to pornographers have the exact opposite result of your wishes:

The pornographers would make more money is people are forced to join adult verification services.

3Horn
 
2003-08-13 04:01:36 PM  
JamieD77

What I have read of your posts is asinine, the thing that miffs me about you is the freaking long arse posts that interupt a good flame war. Really its more that you are taking up space then anything.
 
2003-08-13 04:02:13 PM  
Is it too late to put my vote in for "Schmuck", mortisthecat?
 
2003-08-13 04:02:29 PM  
weemill:

And how many porn site memberships do you have?

"Honest answer, short answer. None."

Then you just proved that you cant understand the simplest statements..
 
2003-08-13 04:02:40 PM  
wu tang clan ain't nothin to fuk with.
 
2003-08-13 04:02:45 PM  
JamieD77 = John Ashcroft in disguise?
 
2003-08-13 04:03:30 PM  
JamieD77

How old are you, if you don't mind my asking. And why do you have something against pornography? You do realize people actually like porno. Some people actually like cigarettes (although i don't understand why). People actually like liquor, and liquor has been shown to help you, in some ways. Firearms are a god given right, according to this constitution. Don't like it? you're going to have to suck it up and deal or get the fark out. Guns....that's the american way.
 
2003-08-13 04:03:51 PM  
AliceInWonderland:

"Really its more that you are taking up space then anything."

Kindof like those crappy photos on your website.. Hope you have a backup career
 
2003-08-13 04:04:28 PM  
JamieD77 :

you are not going to respond to any assesment of your quack science or busted logic, are you?
 
2003-08-13 04:04:46 PM  
Two separate sources I looked up gave an estimate of six million pregnancies per year in America, and both sources claimed roughly half of these were accidental.

It would not surprise me if many of these accidental parents are the same ones who don't want to take responsibility for their "decision" to have a child.

More on-topic: I'm never bothered by porn spam, pictures or not. Seriously. So here are some tips:

1) Choose a good email provider, especially one with useful spam blocking features.
2) Run pop-up-blocking/browser-wrangling software; yes, there is even free stuff available... search for it, slacker.
3) Don't go about posting your email address in every farking corner of the Internet for bots to harvest.
4) Educate yourself, it's neither my nor anyone else's job.
5) Buy a dictionary, a thesaurus, and whatever other items you need to write coherently, and then farking _use_ them. And take your time -- typos are easy to fix if you proofread before posting. For fark's sake, how lazy can you be?!

/venting =^D
 
2003-08-13 04:05:19 PM  
Puntang and Clams are something you shuck with???
Huh?
 
2003-08-13 04:05:36 PM  
Smookyfufu = Mr. Hanky not in disguise?
 
2003-08-13 04:05:55 PM  
The same kind of laws are applied to Cigarrettes, Alcohol and Firearms and the "Adult" industry should not be any Different

Cigs CAUSEs lung cancer.
Booze CAUSES cirosis of the liver.
Porn does NOT CAUSE rape.
 
2003-08-13 04:06:18 PM  
JamieD77: "PoorNographer: Im sorry.. Im sure you'd like for us to raise a bunch of sex crazed perverts to fund your so called business"

No....actually the people who support my business tend to be well educatded, rather affluent, and comfortable with themselves and their sexuality.

Besides, I'm far too savvy to dilute my marketing efforts by trying to attract woefully undereducated, mouth-breathing, simple-minded ilk.

Come visit one of my sites sometime...I'll cue up all the anal crucifix insertion videos I can find especially for you.
 
2003-08-13 04:06:18 PM  
2003-08-13 04:02:29 PM JamieD77


weemill:

And how many porn site memberships do you have?

"Honest answer, short answer. None."

Then you just proved that you cant understand the simplest statements..


And how's that? You asked how many porn site memberships i have, and i told you None. Zero. Zilch. Nada. Niente. Dont buy porn, don't have to. I refuse to pay money for porn online, when i can buy tapes/dvd's or just download. I have about 6 Gigs of porn on my hard drive, and i'm not ashamed of it. I also have 50 gigs of music. Doesn't mean i'll be raping anyone or going 'psycho' on my girlfriend or neighbors. That's a MYTH.

Explain how i don't understand your statements, please?
 
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