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2011-05-06 01:30:03 AM

davidphogan: I opted out. My about 20 unit building still got over 40 phone books. Screw the phone book manufacturers, I'd love to be able to get them fined for their employees being lazy and just piling them up in front of my building's doorway.


Better than them carrying them up and then having them carried back down with the trash.

What I wonder is who the hell are they selling ads to?
 
2011-05-06 01:31:50 AM

AcneVulgaris: What I wonder is who the hell are they selling ads to?


Probably the same guys who put their ads in the phone book.
 
2011-05-06 01:33:49 AM

Cpl.D: AcneVulgaris: What I wonder is who the hell are they selling ads to?

Probably the same guys who put their ads in the phone book.


No. You know what, I've rethought that. Probably weed merchants. Think about it. Who holds on to phone book nowadays? Grandma with her glaucoma, and stoners fearful of running out of smoking papers.

Bo-De-Gas.
 
2011-05-06 01:34:50 AM

Axe Wound: If people still want phone books, they should request them or buy them.


Everyone who wants a phone book should pick it up from Goodwill. That would reduce the number of phone books used, while also encouraging people to donate gently-used used items such as plaques proclaiming that "Ms. Johnson is the best 4th grade teacher ever!"
 
Ral
2011-05-06 01:36:34 AM
On top of that, O'Brien says, 2 million yellow-pages books are recycled in Seattle every year at a cost of $350,000.

Wait a minute. I thought recycling was supposed to be less wasteful.

Oh right. Recycling isn't actually about doing the most cost-efficient thing. It's about environmentalist religious ritual.

/carry on
 
2011-05-06 01:42:33 AM

AcneVulgaris: davidphogan: I opted out. My about 20 unit building still got over 40 phone books. Screw the phone book manufacturers, I'd love to be able to get them fined for their employees being lazy and just piling them up in front of my building's doorway.

Better than them carrying them up and then having them carried back down with the trash.

What I wonder is who the hell are they selling ads to?


Uhhh... So it's better that their so-called customers get pissed and throw them out than having their employees deliver the right amount?
 
2011-05-06 01:43:51 AM

Cpl.D: sporkme: Cpl.D: Oh, and the ol' "I got a printer, but I don't know what port that is! Serial, right? Or parallel?" "No, LPT1." "What?"

I guess the modern day variant is "Your dumbass ISP is blocking port 80 for some reason." with "Port eighty? Port eighty??! Is that, like, USB ports? Because I don't have that many."

[parallel port] > [parallel to serial DB9 adapter] > [serial to usb adapter] > [usb credit card reader] confirmed working, Windows 95 vanilla. CC machine dials out via ISA modem @ 2400(?) baud. I have no idea how the CC machine company got this working; I would have said it was not possible. I was there to replace the tape backup drive. The case was full of cigar and feline detritus.

There were plenty of phone books at this store.

That's like printing out a web page you like, writing notes on it to a friend regarding parts you want them to check out, then scanning it in PDF format, turning it into a 7zip file, throwing it on a zipdisk, then mailing it in a bubble wrapped envelope to a friend who can convert it for a MAC user. Who would then return the envelope, giving it to you, so you can pop it back into your drive, rezipping it, then mailing it back out to your friend in the same damned bubble wrapped envelope. And they don't even have a damned zip drive.


More like harnessing one hundred thousand donkeys to a freight train, when the railroad company will give you a locomotive for free. Much faster, does more for less, and you don't have to hire anyone to clean up the miles of shiat.

Another place with lots of phone books is where I work now, counter at a 55 year old auto parts store. We have AS/400 dumb terminals with monochrome green screens, mechanical keyboards, big orange I/0 power switches, running on a token-ring coax network featuring rusty BNC connectors and RG58 cable. The *new* server is a Win2k machine branded Compaq Presario which emulates IBM mainframe and is connected to a hodgepodge of routers and switches that nobody understands. The battery backup is 5 car batteries hooked to an RV inverter-charger.

I'm the "computer guy" that "works" there, so I am in charge of keeping it all up. The woman that knows AS/400 and is in charge of those databases is older than my mom.

Yep, lots of phone books.

/csb
 
2011-05-06 01:54:19 AM

sporkme: Another place with lots of phone books is where I work now, counter at a 55 year old auto parts store. We have AS/400 dumb terminals with monochrome green screens, mechanical keyboards, big orange I/0 power switches, running on a token-ring coax network featuring rusty BNC connectors and RG58 cable. The *new* server is a Win2k machine branded Compaq Presario which emulates IBM mainframe and is connected to a hodgepodge of routers and switches that nobody understands. The battery backup is 5 car batteries hooked to an RV inverter-charger.

I'm the "computer guy" that "works" there, so I am in charge of keeping it all up. The woman that knows AS/400 and is in charge of those databases is older than my mom.


You sound like you kinda suck as a "computer guy".
 
2011-05-06 01:58:05 AM
WAAARGH! Damn it, damn it, damn it. I know AS400. I hate AS400. Whoemever made that abortion of a ticketing system needs to have their entrails removed after they've been given an adrenaline injection just so they freak that much harder. Then while they're getting over losing that much mass so soon, you braid their intestines into rope in front of them. Which you use to hang them before setting them on fire and beating them with a cricket bat covered in glass and lemonade drink mix.

I don't know what Hell is like, but I'm DAMNED sure they use AS400 there.
 
2011-05-06 02:00:37 AM
If phonebooks go the way of the Dodo, what are the hulking guys and pituitary cases going to use to try and tear in half in the Strongman competitions on ESPN?
 
2011-05-06 02:02:22 AM

Redskin Paleontologist: If phonebooks go the way of the Dodo, what are the hulking guys and pituitary cases going to use to try and tear in half in the Strongman competitions on ESPN?


iPads with the leather carrying case all lamed up with rhinestones and hello kitty stickers like a twelve year old girl's school notebook.
 
2011-05-06 02:03:16 AM

kukukupo: I actually use our local phone book more than google.


Same here... at least for finding the mom-and-pops, and small tradesmen, who are too strapped or too old-school to have a web presence. And around my small city that's seemingly about two-thirds of them.

/not too crazy about what's become of the phonebook racket, though.
 
2011-05-06 02:07:32 AM

Chagrin: sporkme: Another place with lots of phone books is where I work now, counter at a 55 year old auto parts store. We have AS/400 dumb terminals with monochrome green screens, mechanical keyboards, big orange I/0 power switches, running on a token-ring coax network featuring rusty BNC connectors and RG58 cable. The *new* server is a Win2k machine branded Compaq Presario which emulates IBM mainframe and is connected to a hodgepodge of routers and switches that nobody understands. The battery backup is 5 car batteries hooked to an RV inverter-charger.

I'm the "computer guy" that "works" there, so I am in charge of keeping it all up. The woman that knows AS/400 and is in charge of those databases is older than my mom.

You sound like you kinda suck as a "computer guy".


In the sense that a mechanical engineer "kinda sucks" as an archaeologist, you are correct sir.
 
2011-05-06 02:13:20 AM

sporkme:

Another place with lots of phone books is where I work now, counter at a 55 year old auto parts store. We have AS/400 dumb terminals with monochrome green screens, mechanical keyboards, big orange I/0 power switches, running on a token-ring coax network featuring rusty BNC connectors and RG58 cable. The *new* server is a Win2k machine branded Compaq Presario which emulates IBM mainframe and is connected to a hodgepodge of routers and switches that nobody understands. The battery backup is 5 car batteries hooked to an RV inverter-charger.


That's actually touching and kind of beautiful, in a Jim-Jarmusch-with-a-Tom-Waits soundtrack sort of way.
 
2011-05-06 02:15:44 AM

EddyKilowatt: sporkme:

Another place with lots of phone books is where I work now, counter at a 55 year old auto parts store. We have AS/400 dumb terminals with monochrome green screens, mechanical keyboards, big orange I/0 power switches, running on a token-ring coax network featuring rusty BNC connectors and RG58 cable. The *new* server is a Win2k machine branded Compaq Presario which emulates IBM mainframe and is connected to a hodgepodge of routers and switches that nobody understands. The battery backup is 5 car batteries hooked to an RV inverter-charger.


That's actually touching and kind of beautiful, in a Jim-Jarmusch-with-a-Tom-Waits soundtrack sort of way.


Perfect. Definitely filmed in b&w.
 
2011-05-06 02:16:33 AM
I like this idea. I don't object to getting just one phone book, but I end up with a large one from the phone company, a smaller version from the same phone company & one from Yellow Book.

Seriously, I neither need nor want three phone books.
 
2011-05-06 02:20:31 AM
Axe Wound
I've lived in Seattle for four years. Gotten phone books every year delivered to houses with 3-7 roommates. Never once used them or saw anyone use them. They stayed on the front porch or got buried in storage or went straight into the recycling bin. If the power goes out, 3/4 roommates have smartphones.


Where in Seattle do you get phone books? I've been living in White Center for two years and have yet to receive a phone book (which, for the record, I'm okay with.) Also, seven roommates? Yikes.
 
2011-05-06 02:22:48 AM

Palmer Eldritch: Axe Wound
I've lived in Seattle for four years. Gotten phone books every year delivered to houses with 3-7 roommates. Never once used them or saw anyone use them. They stayed on the front porch or got buried in storage or went straight into the recycling bin. If the power goes out, 3/4 roommates have smartphones.


Where in Seattle do you get phone books? I've been living in White Center for two years and have yet to receive a phone book (which, for the record, I'm okay with.) Also, seven roommates? Yikes.


Don't be silly, people in WC can't read.
Not English anyhow.

/jk
 
2011-05-06 02:30:40 AM
I still get more use out of a phone book than I do online. Look up a restaurant online and you'll find ones that closed 6 years ago. Won't find that in a phone book. Want to find something local? Online is NOT local. I'll get listings for places on the other side of the country. Online is great for some things, but it's not better than a phone book.

/Yea, get off my lawn
 
2011-05-06 02:39:50 AM
Seriously? There's four entries for me in the phone book, and not one of them is my current house.
 
2011-05-06 02:41:20 AM

The_Sponge: For all my fellow Seattle area Farkers:

Ballard Driving Academy (new window)

COPS in Ballard (new window)

COPS in Wallingford (new window)


As someone who lives in North Seattle... I find your stereotypes dated and still totally accurate
 
2011-05-06 02:44:51 AM

Palmer Eldritch: Where in Seattle do you get phone books? I've been living in White Center for two years and have yet to receive a phone book (which, for the record, I'm okay with.) Also, seven roommates? Yikes.


Is White Center part of Seattle now? I did a project on it and remember the debate about who would annex it. If it's still under King County would that be why you get left out? I get a city-wide one plus one specifically for North Seattle (I'm in Phinney-ish).

7 roommates while in the U-District for grad school. The best part wasn't that actually, it was the I-5 entrance ramp/panhandler station 10 feet from our front door.
 
2011-05-06 02:59:16 AM

Axe Wound: Palmer Eldritch: Where in Seattle do you get phone books? I've been living in White Center for two years and have yet to receive a phone book (which, for the record, I'm okay with.) Also, seven roommates? Yikes.

Is White Center part of Seattle now? I did a project on it and remember the debate about who would annex it. If it's still under King County would that be why you get left out? I get a city-wide one plus one specifically for North Seattle (I'm in Phinney-ish).

7 roommates while in the U-District for grad school. The best part wasn't that actually, it was the I-5 entrance ramp/panhandler station 10 feet from our front door.


Lovely.
At least you were close to Dick's.
Stuff your face with Dick's, swing by and grab some Dick's etc.
 
2011-05-06 03:04:01 AM

Armed And Disgruntled: I still get more use out of a phone book than I do online. Look up a restaurant online and you'll find ones that closed 6 years ago. Won't find that in a phone book. Want to find something local? Online is NOT local. I'll get listings for places on the other side of the country. Online is great for some things, but it's not better than a phone book.


Your attitude ensures a steady supply of phone books. In the phone book, advertisers' information is correct. Everything else is the oldest, cheapest data available (provided by the same people who post bad phone numbers on the Internet).

Calling the advertisers in your yellow pages is just like clicking "sponsored links" from your search provider. You're not guaranteed anything, just improving your odds.
 
2011-05-06 03:10:40 AM

AbbeySomeone: Lovely.
At least you were close to Dick's.
Stuff your face with Dick's, swing by and grab some Dick's etc.


My favorite is EABOD: "eat a bag of Dick's".

farm1.static.flickr.com
 
2011-05-06 03:27:54 AM

Axe Wound: AbbeySomeone: Lovely.
At least you were close to Dick's.
Stuff your face with Dick's, swing by and grab some Dick's etc.

My favorite is EABOD: "eat a bag of Dick's".


I love the fries dipped in tarter.
 
2011-05-06 03:34:46 AM

Mad_Radhu: L.D. Ablo: I use the phonebook for local businesses. Google just pulls up linkfarm crap and closed businesses.

*adjusts onion on belt*

/get off my lawn
//or I'll turn the hose on you
///I mean it this time

Can't you just use the YellowPages phone app?


Hell no. I'm old and set in my ways.

/almost 39
 
2011-05-06 04:00:22 AM

Armed And Disgruntled: Look up a restaurant online and you'll find ones that closed 6 years ago. Won't find that in a phone book. Want to find something local? Online is NOT local. I'll get listings for places on the other side of the country. Online is great for some things, but it's not better than a phone book.


Get someone under 60 to show you how to use the intertubes.

Or buy a farking smartphone already.
 
2011-05-06 05:48:55 AM

tseven7: Based on what the article says, if you use the yellowpagesoptout.com site, the phone companies don't HAVE to stop sending it to you.


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-05-06 07:07:35 AM

The_Sponge: Urinal Cake Mix: The_Sponge: Urinal Cake Mix:


The cake is a lie
 
2011-05-06 07:16:24 AM

adeist69: I like phone books for the coupons and they're great chew toys for my wife's rabbit. Since she discovered phone books she's quit chewing on electrical cords all over the house (the rabbit, not the wife).


So your wife still chews the cords?
 
2011-05-06 08:19:21 AM
I just blew a boatload of cash on a yellowpages ad so I'm getting a kick, etc.

/most of the people looking for me don't have Internet access, only phonebook access.
//because they're in the clink.
 
2011-05-06 08:32:11 AM
Kind of agree. It's nice to have one phonebook with yellow pages because not every business shows up on the intertubes but I just counted a grand total of 7 thick phonebooks that got delivered to me last year alone.
 
2011-05-06 09:06:37 AM

Ordinary Genius: I just blew a boatload of cash on a yellowpages ad so I'm getting a kick, etc.

/most of the people looking for me don't have Internet access, only phonebook access.
//because they're in the clink.


Lawyer?
 
2011-05-06 10:14:49 AM
Approves:

img580.imageshack.us

/i use the internet, mofo
 
2011-05-06 10:56:52 AM

oroku_saki: Ordinary Genius: I just blew a boatload of cash on a yellowpages ad so I'm getting a kick, etc.

/most of the people looking for me don't have Internet access, only phonebook access.
//because they're in the clink.

Lawyer?


Yeah.

/don't worry, I hate me too.
 
2011-05-06 11:04:08 AM

Axe Wound: AbbeySomeone: Lovely.
At least you were close to Dick's.
Stuff your face with Dick's, swing by and grab some Dick's etc.

My favorite is EABOD: "eat a bag of Dick's".


I never thought I'd say this but...mmmmm.....Dicks.
I frequented the one in Spokane but loved the scenery at the one near Capital Hill.
 
2011-05-06 11:47:52 AM

Cpl.D: Bunnyhat: Sim Tree: Cpl.D: And if you call my house and knock me offline again,

Wait, what? If someone calls you while the modem is active, they should get a busy signal.

Now, if someone calls OUT it can knock you offline. ;)

Eh, back when I had dial up, I would get knocked offline every time someone called due to the stupid call waiting crap.

The significant other loved that call waiting crap. You know what a buzzkill it was to be downloading some nudie pic, and you're almost at the point where the bottom of the loaded part gets to her gorgeous knockers, only to get knocked off line because your grandmother calls you?

Damn it.


That's why you put *70p at the beginning of your phone number string. If I remember properly, Windows also had a nice little box that would do that automagically for you as well.

/p is for pause
 
2011-05-06 11:51:16 AM

scraping_fetus_off_the_wheel: Cpl.D: Bunnyhat: Sim Tree: Cpl.D: And if you call my house and knock me offline again,

Wait, what? If someone calls you while the modem is active, they should get a busy signal.

Now, if someone calls OUT it can knock you offline. ;)

Eh, back when I had dial up, I would get knocked offline every time someone called due to the stupid call waiting crap.

The significant other loved that call waiting crap. You know what a buzzkill it was to be downloading some nudie pic, and you're almost at the point where the bottom of the loaded part gets to her gorgeous knockers, only to get knocked off line because your grandmother calls you?

Damn it.

That's why you put *70p at the beginning of your phone number string. If I remember properly, Windows also had a nice little box that would do that automagically for you as well.

/p is for pause

//or comma, if you're not an r-tard like me
///haven't used dialup since 2005
////infinitely happier for it
 
2011-05-06 01:16:13 PM

Cpl.D: Gonad the Ballbarian: That's so 90's...
Take your mood ring and go home, Grandpa...

Don't make me crush your spine with this box of ten inch flopp disks. And if you call my house and knock me offline again, I'll blow up your pager!


hehe

i2.photobucket.com
 
2011-05-06 01:25:13 PM

scraping_fetus_off_the_wheel: /p is for pause
//or comma, if you're not an r-tard like me
///haven't used dialup since 2005
////infinitely happier for it


I still use the "p" today. I put it into a saved phone number for my work conference calls so that when I dial the contact, it'll pause for a second for the voice conferencing system to pick up, then automatically enter in the number for my weekly conference call. It's a very helpful feature that a lot of people don't know are on their cell phones. Even if you don't have a QWERTY keyboard, you can add it to a phone number by pressing the * key a couple of times until it comes up.
 
2011-05-06 01:37:54 PM

not_an_indigo: Urinal Cake Mix: Goddamnit, this is only effective for Seattle. What about all us Eastsiders?

/has thrown away three freaking phonebooks in the past year alone

Issaquah representin', yo.

/yeah, I know, I sound white


Issaquah woot woot!

I dunno what part of Issaquah you live in, but my neighborhood is about half Asian or Indian. Lots of Microsofties.
 
2011-05-06 01:50:54 PM

Axe Wound:

Yellow Pages is just as inaccurate as anything; they put my personal phone number, home address and full name up under Restaurants, after I called them and told them to fix their info. Assholes.

With a handle like yours, wouldn't you be happy to get a call from people who wanted to eat out?
 
2011-05-06 01:52:18 PM

Mad_Radhu: scraping_fetus_off_the_wheel: /p is for pause
//or comma, if you're not an r-tard like me
///haven't used dialup since 2005
////infinitely happier for it

I still use the "p" today. I put it into a saved phone number for my work conference calls so that when I dial the contact, it'll pause for a second for the voice conferencing system to pick up, then automatically enter in the number for my weekly conference call. It's a very helpful feature that a lot of people don't know are on their cell phones. Even if you don't have a QWERTY keyboard, you can add it to a phone number by pressing the * key a couple of times until it comes up.


Sweet, I didn't think I was completely crazy :)
 
2011-05-06 03:07:36 PM

Gonad the Ballbarian: Cpl.D: Gonad the Ballbarian: That's so 90's...
Take your mood ring and go home, Grandpa...

Don't make me crush your spine with this box of ten inch flopp disks. And if you call my house and knock me offline again, I'll blow up your pager!

hehe

COME AT ME BRO


*loads up dialup connector, plugs in phone line*
*Sets connection number to Gonad the Ballbarian's pager*
*Sets retry limit to one hundred fifty thousand*
*Sets user to LOL and pass to LOL*

/Signs on
 
2011-05-06 05:43:55 PM
You call it a phone book.

I call it a Weapon of Wolf Spider Destruction
 
2011-05-07 12:15:51 AM

Cpl.D: Gonad the Ballbarian: Cpl.D: Gonad the Ballbarian: That's so 90's...
Take your mood ring and go home, Grandpa...

Don't make me crush your spine with this box of ten inch flopp disks. And if you call my house and knock me offline again, I'll blow up your pager!

hehe

COME AT ME BRO

*loads up dialup connector, plugs in phone line*
*Sets connection number to Gonad the Ballbarian's pager*
*Sets retry limit to one hundred fifty thousand*
*Sets user to LOL and pass to LOL*

/Signs on


Ok,

YOU are now officially my very first FAVORITED Farker....

I have not laughed that hard in a long time...

GOODONYA!!!!!
 
2011-05-07 02:16:52 AM

feffer: not_an_indigo: Urinal Cake Mix: Goddamnit, this is only effective for Seattle. What about all us Eastsiders?

/has thrown away three freaking phonebooks in the past year alone

Issaquah representin', yo.

/yeah, I know, I sound white

Issaquah woot woot!

I dunno what part of Issaquah you live in, but my neighborhood is about half Asian or Indian. Lots of Microsofties.


Just south of I-90, on the border with Bellevue. Lotta whiteys, some Asians.
 
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