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2011-05-05 11:59:20 PM

DashFieldpaint: I live an an apartment. I've been kicking them down the hallway for a few years now.


YOU!

I lived nearest to the entryway of my apartment building, which was new construction and mostly unoccupied. 1 phone book every month or two for a dozen units and 3 units rented out. The girls let theirs pile up and the other guys kicked them down the stairs to the entry, where they piled up. We were convinced we had a Phonebook Fairy. We mailed them places in prepaid envelopes till an agreement was reached with the mailmanlady.
 
2011-05-05 11:59:54 PM

The_Sponge: AbbeySomeone: We moved from Interbay/fremont to a small town outside of Seattle. We got a cool old house with a big yard that we could not have afforded in the city. It's great as long as I don't mingle with the locals.I was weeding and found an old stash of phone books in the yard. I actually use the new one.


Waaaaaa? What town are you in?


EIP
MrS works for one of your teams.
 
2011-05-06 12:01:16 AM

Bunnyhat: Sim Tree: Cpl.D: And if you call my house and knock me offline again,

Wait, what? If someone calls you while the modem is active, they should get a busy signal.

Now, if someone calls OUT it can knock you offline. ;)

Eh, back when I had dial up, I would get knocked offline every time someone called due to the stupid call waiting crap.


The significant other loved that call waiting crap. You know what a buzzkill it was to be downloading some nudie pic, and you're almost at the point where the bottom of the loaded part gets to her gorgeous knockers, only to get knocked off line because your grandmother calls you?

Damn it.
 
2011-05-06 12:01:37 AM
I live on a corner with entries on both streets so I get two phone books to throw in the recycling bin every year
 
2011-05-06 12:02:47 AM
MaudlinMutantMollusk: I'd like to see you prop up a funky desk leg with a Google

Not to mention trying to use Google as a free booster seat for the brats at the kid's table at Thanksgiving :/

davidphogan: I opted out. My about 20 unit building still got over 40 phone books. Screw the phone book manufacturers, I'd love to be able to get them fined for their employees being lazy and just piling them up in front of my building's doorway.

How to piss off the Dean at college:

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/I'm such a bastard :D
 
2011-05-06 12:04:02 AM

MentalMoment: Obviously there's a need for these phone books. If not Market Forces would have ended them long ago.


Many states currently require phone companies to provide phone books to all landline subscribers, even as the internet threatens to make physical phone books obsolete. (^)

GD it so much... should have said yellow pages directories.
 
2011-05-06 12:04:29 AM
Anyone know how (if) I can do this on the Eastside?

/DNRFA
 
2011-05-06 12:04:59 AM
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2011-05-06 12:06:08 AM
Phone books smell good.
 
2011-05-06 12:06:29 AM
I like phone books for the coupons and they're great chew toys for my wife's rabbit. Since she discovered phone books she's quit chewing on electrical cords all over the house (the rabbit, not the wife).
 
2011-05-06 12:07:12 AM
I still use the yellow pages on occasion--there's still nothing better for looking up small businesses.
 
2011-05-06 12:07:49 AM
Free kindling for summer bbq, or fireplaces in the winter. Or hobo toilet paper.
 
2011-05-06 12:09:46 AM
An unintended consequence of improved printing technology.

It's relatively expensive to print a phone book, so you can pay the entire printing/distribution cost with just a few premier sponsors who buy the covers, inserts and magnets.

Then you hire some telemarketers to sell advertising on commission and it's mostly gravy.
 
2011-05-06 12:11:17 AM

thenateman: An unintended consequence of improved printing technology.

It's relatively expensive to print a phone book, so you can pay the entire printing/distribution cost with just a few premier sponsors who buy the covers, inserts and magnets.

Then you hire some telemarketers to sell advertising on commission and it's mostly gravy.


*relatively inexpensive... way to shiat on my own point.
 
2011-05-06 12:11:51 AM

adeist69: I like phone books for the coupons


F*cking-A. I usually use them for that and/or the various local restaurant menus for delivery - and that's it. But, the thin little local metro one does the job. The thick ass yellow pages go right in the garbage (recycling).
 
2011-05-06 12:17:59 AM
I... I actually use my phonebook. And I'm in my mid 20's.
 
2011-05-06 12:18:42 AM
Mom is 82 years old. Still with the program, but never quite got this internet stuff. Uses her phone book almost daily.

Understand the cons... but she would be lost without it.
 
2011-05-06 12:20:30 AM
I still like to use the phone book. That reminds me... I have to write my phone rental check to Ma Bell for the month.
 
2011-05-06 12:22:26 AM

adeist69: I like phone books for the coupons and they're great chew toys for my wife's rabbit. Since she discovered phone books she's quit chewing on electrical cords all over the house (the rabbit, not the wife).


So the wife is still chewing cords?

/that's gonna be a big surprise when she shorts one out
 
2011-05-06 12:26:57 AM
Hey, it's a source of free backup toilet paper.
 
2011-05-06 12:29:01 AM
Phone book? Is that something you read with an Apple product?
 
2011-05-06 12:29:36 AM
Formerly of Renton. Corner of Rainer Ave S & Renton Ave. That shiattly little square apartment complex behind the McDonalds. What a shiathole but the rent was cheap and the cockroaches kept me company.

Phonebooks make good bullet stops.
 
2011-05-06 12:31:27 AM
You'll get my phone book when you pry it out of my cold dead hands...Now GET OFF MY LAWN !!!!
 
2011-05-06 12:31:42 AM
Again, this shows that industry-sponsored opt-out schemes do not work and never have worked. Not just for junk phone books, but junk mail, junk email, junk phone solicitations, and junk everything else.

If someone sends me some physical item and they don't even know my name, it will be returned to them at their expense whenever possible. I suggest that others do the same and keep doing the same until the bastards running the schemes get a clue.
 
2011-05-06 12:33:02 AM

Smeggy Smurf: Formerly of Renton. Corner of Rainer Ave S & Renton Ave. That shiattly little square apartment complex behind the McDonalds. What a shiathole but the rent was cheap and the cockroaches kept me company.

Phonebooks make good bullet stops.


I have a friend that lives near rainier/Graham. The corner market has an amazing array of malt liquor, fortified wine and lottery tickets.
 
2011-05-06 12:33:14 AM

thespindrifter: How to piss off the Dean at college:

/I'm such a bastard :D


You kids and your delusions of grandeur. Back in my onion-swinging days, we'd blackjack the man and knock him out, then have the med students sew his face to the carpet.

Then again, they were sports back then. You'd probably get sued to hell and back now.
 
2011-05-06 12:34:21 AM
Until every business in interior and northern alaska gets online, you'll have to pry my phone book out of my cold dead hands. Plus they have menus for places that don't put menus online.
 
2011-05-06 12:35:01 AM

Cpl.D: altinos: piercer310: Or get your fireplace going with a google page.

Just print it out! Duh.

For bonus points, have the printer feed directly into the shredder, which drops the paper shreds down a chute and directly into the fireplace.


Love it. So, when you want to stoke the fire, all you have to do is hit PRINT/START?
 
2011-05-06 12:36:19 AM

Cpl.D: Bunnyhat: Sim Tree: Cpl.D: And if you call my house and knock me offline again,

Wait, what? If someone calls you while the modem is active, they should get a busy signal.

Now, if someone calls OUT it can knock you offline. ;)

Eh, back when I had dial up, I would get knocked offline every time someone called due to the stupid call waiting crap.

The significant other loved that call waiting crap. You know what a buzzkill it was to be downloading some nudie pic, and you're almost at the point where the bottom of the loaded part gets to her gorgeous knockers, only to get knocked off line because your grandmother calls you?

Damn it.


Haven't you guys ever heard of *70 ?

Dial out *70,1-555-555-1212 instead of just the phone number and call waiting is disabled for that call so anyone who calls gets a busy signal, or voicemail if you have that.
 
2011-05-06 12:41:54 AM

MrBentor: Hey, it's a source of free backup toilet paper.


Many disaster/apocalypse novels reference this point. It is a highly efficient form of storing paper for this purpose, plus you get to wipe your butt with lawyers' faces.

I split kindling from logs with a hatchet indoors, placing a phone book on brick hearth prevents chipping or cracking.

I use phone books as backing when drilling metal on my work bench.

Other than that, they have no purpose.
 
2011-05-06 12:44:32 AM

pdieten: Haven't you guys ever heard of *70 ?

Dial out *70,1-555-555-1212 instead of just the phone number and call waiting is disabled for that call so anyone who calls gets a busy signal, or voicemail if you have that.


That wasn't around till later. And when it did come out, not everyone knew it... just adding that to someone's dialup-up-string rendered you a technical genius in the minds of many. And even fewer knew that commas added a dialing pause! Hell, when phone cards came out I was able to use those just by making the dialup string about fifteen feet long.
 
2011-05-06 12:45:44 AM

cleo777: Cpl.D: altinos: piercer310: Or get your fireplace going with a google page.

Just print it out! Duh.

For bonus points, have the printer feed directly into the shredder, which drops the paper shreds down a chute and directly into the fireplace.

Love it. So, when you want to stoke the fire, all you have to do is hit PRINT/START?


Used to be the print screen key actually had your printer crank out whatever you had on your screen at the moment.
 
2011-05-06 12:47:55 AM
Oh, and the ol' "I got a printer, but I don't know what port that is! Serial, right? Or parallel?" "No, LPT1." "What?"

I guess the modern day variant is "Your dumbass ISP is blocking port 80 for some reason." with "Port eighty? Port eighty??! Is that, like, USB ports? Because I don't have that many."
 
2011-05-06 12:50:35 AM
There's another site here (new window)where you just have to register and put in your zip code. Based on what the article says, if you use the yellowpagesoptout.com site, the phone companies don't HAVE to stop sending it to you. If you use the Seattle one, they get fined if they send you one.

W/E just stop sending me the farking phonebooks already.
 
2011-05-06 12:51:39 AM

Mad_Radhu: Urinal Cake Mix: Goddamnit, this is only effective for Seattle. What about all us Eastsiders?

/has thrown away three freaking phonebooks in the past year alone

Redmond in da house, biatches!


Port Orchard up in this mofo!
 
2011-05-06 12:52:51 AM

sporkme: MrBentor: Hey, it's a source of free backup toilet paper.

Many disaster/apocalypse novels reference this point. It is a highly efficient form of storing paper for this purpose, plus you get to wipe your butt with lawyers' faces.

I split kindling from logs with a hatchet indoors, placing a phone book on brick hearth prevents chipping or cracking.

I use phone books as backing when drilling metal on my work bench.

Other than that, they have no purpose.


The wife's cat is sitting on your other favorite barka-lounger. You're in the other one and don't feel like getting up because you've in the middle of a couple beers and your pants are around your ankles. That's when you need a phone book around, because you don't care if you break it.
 
2011-05-06 12:54:17 AM
Oh, I meant not caring about breaking the phone book and the cat, not the barka-lounger.
 
2011-05-06 12:54:52 AM
As a librarian, I'm a little ambivalent about the prospect of the demise of the phone book - old phone books are a valuable resource for genealogical research, helping to confirm where people live and tracking an ancestor's movements. Very early phone books can be an indicator of an ancestor's social status as telephones were luxury items in the early days of the network.

However, the phone company does not exist to provide genealogical resources. That's just a side benefit and it's arguable that the rise of social media provides an entirely new research source for future genealogists. Ideally I'd like to see phonebooks remain in publication, but far greater public uptake of opt-out provisions. They also provide a backup if your internet goes on the fritz.
 
2011-05-06 12:55:43 AM

thisispete: As a librarian, I'm a little ambivalent about the prospect of the demise of the phone book - old phone books are a valuable resource for genealogical research, helping to confirm where people live and tracking an ancestor's movements. Very early phone books can be an indicator of an ancestor's social status as telephones were luxury items in the early days of the network.

However, the phone company does not exist to provide genealogical resources. That's just a side benefit and it's arguable that the rise of social media provides an entirely new research source for future genealogists. Ideally I'd like to see phonebooks remain in publication, but far greater public uptake of opt-out provisions. They also provide a backup if your internet goes on the fritz.


Wayback machine. Problem solved. *hat tip*
 
2011-05-06 12:55:46 AM
All of my phones can hold more phone numbers than a phonebook. Why would I carry around a giant pile of paper? o.0

Man, The Ancient Ones that lived in the 1990s sure must have led rough lives.
 
2011-05-06 12:56:41 AM

mrmazoku: All of my phones can hold more phone numbers than a phonebook. Why would I carry around a giant pile of paper? o.0

Man, The Ancient Ones that lived in the 1990s sure must have led rough lives.


I remember when phones wasn't cordless. *deadpan stare*
 
2011-05-06 01:04:06 AM

Cpl.D: Oh, and the ol' "I got a printer, but I don't know what port that is! Serial, right? Or parallel?" "No, LPT1." "What?"

I guess the modern day variant is "Your dumbass ISP is blocking port 80 for some reason." with "Port eighty? Port eighty??! Is that, like, USB ports? Because I don't have that many."


[parallel port] > [parallel to serial DB9 adapter] > [serial to usb adapter] > [usb credit card reader] confirmed working, Windows 95 vanilla. CC machine dials out via ISA modem @ 2400(?) baud. I have no idea how the CC machine company got this working; I would have said it was not possible. I was there to replace the tape backup drive. The case was full of cigar and feline detritus.

There were plenty of phone books at this store.
 
2011-05-06 01:07:34 AM
I use my phone books regularly, I would be pissed if I didn't get my new one. I also refuse to do paperless billing. I want a hard copy of bills and do not want to rely on an electronic transmission that might be eating by a mail server.
 
2011-05-06 01:11:28 AM
could you imagine being a company making a phone book?
you used to be sooo... necessary, so vital to people.

now you are a hassle. a waste.
 
2011-05-06 01:12:11 AM

majortom: I use my phone books regularly, I would be pissed if I didn't get my new one. I also refuse to do paperless billing. I want a hard copy of bills and do not want to rely on an electronic transmission that might be eating by a mail server.


Environmentalist, huh?
 
2011-05-06 01:12:19 AM

sporkme: Cpl.D: Oh, and the ol' "I got a printer, but I don't know what port that is! Serial, right? Or parallel?" "No, LPT1." "What?"

I guess the modern day variant is "Your dumbass ISP is blocking port 80 for some reason." with "Port eighty? Port eighty??! Is that, like, USB ports? Because I don't have that many."

[parallel port] > [parallel to serial DB9 adapter] > [serial to usb adapter] > [usb credit card reader] confirmed working, Windows 95 vanilla. CC machine dials out via ISA modem @ 2400(?) baud. I have no idea how the CC machine company got this working; I would have said it was not possible. I was there to replace the tape backup drive. The case was full of cigar and feline detritus.

There were plenty of phone books at this store.


That's like printing out a web page you like, writing notes on it to a friend regarding parts you want them to check out, then scanning it in PDF format, turning it into a 7zip file, throwing it on a zipdisk, then mailing it in a bubble wrapped envelope to a friend who can convert it for a MAC user. Who would then return the envelope, giving it to you, so you can pop it back into your drive, rezipping it, then mailing it back out to your friend in the same damned bubble wrapped envelope. And they don't even have a damned zip drive.
 
2011-05-06 01:15:05 AM

Cpl.D: pdieten: Haven't you guys ever heard of *70 ?

Dial out *70,1-555-555-1212 instead of just the phone number and call waiting is disabled for that call so anyone who calls gets a busy signal, or voicemail if you have that.

That wasn't around till later. And when it did come out, not everyone knew it... just adding that to someone's dialup-up-string rendered you a technical genius in the minds of many. And even fewer knew that commas added a dialing pause! Hell, when phone cards came out I was able to use those just by making the dialup string about fifteen feet long.


That was always fun - calling out of a hotel to use a phone card to call an ISP.... good times, it was always a race to get it just right before the booze made it impossible.

Cpl.D: Oh, and the ol' "I got a printer, but I don't know what port that is! Serial, right? Or parallel?" "No, LPT1." "What?"

I guess the modern day variant is "Your dumbass ISP is blocking port 80 for some reason." with "Port eighty? Port eighty??! Is that, like, USB ports? Because I don't have that many."


I gave up on running a MySQL server when I realized how many USB hubs I needed to buy just to open port 3306
 
2011-05-06 01:22:39 AM
I've lived in Seattle for four years. Gotten phone books every year delivered to houses with 3-7 roommates. Never once used them or saw anyone use them. They stayed on the front porch or got buried in storage or went straight into the recycling bin. If the power goes out, 3/4 roommates have smartphones.

If people still want phone books, they should request them or buy them. Yellow Pages is just as inaccurate as anything; they put my personal phone number, home address and full name up under Restaurants, after I called them and told them to fix their info. Assholes.

/opted out this morning, woo!
 
2011-05-06 01:25:16 AM

Cpl.D: mrmazoku: All of my phones can hold more phone numbers than a phonebook. Why would I carry around a giant pile of paper? o.0

Man, The Ancient Ones that lived in the 1990s sure must have led rough lives.

I remember when phones wasn't cordless. *deadpan stare*


I remember when your phone was hard-wired to a specific location in your home; no walkin' around with the phone or unplugging it to go to another room. Your phone stayed where TPC (The Phone Company) put it.

Because there was only Ma Bell there was only one Yellow Pages/White Pages and life was simple and bucolic.
 
2011-05-06 01:26:29 AM

HammerHeadSnark: Because there was only Ma Bell there was only one Yellow Pages/White Pages and life was simple and bucolic.


I remember my aunt biatching about automatic telephone switching systems taking away work from good old-fashioned hardworking American switchboard operators.
 
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