sultros: Why the hell is birth cert being brought up and who stupid enough to even make that comparison?

They need to offer to show that pictures to victims families if they want to see it. My best friend lost his brother on 911 and he, and the rest of his support group that also lost loved ones, want to see it. The few that dont, nobody is forcing them. Seeing that murderous coward dead will bring alot of closure.

But I get it, we dont want to "offend" anyone... especially all of Osama's supporters. They are the important ones in all of this.

BTW you cant claim the moral high ground after invading a country and killing an unarmed man. It's not like the arab world is going to just give the good ole USA a pass since we didnt air the photo's or video.

+1

Expect the photos to be leaked around Oct 30, 2012...

Surool: Farker T: Surool: Hank_Hill: Farker T: So he's a dictator then, and you're happy with that.

Cool.

And you worship bin Laden. Funny, that.

Worship is a little strong, but he will do anything to make sure the non-republican administration gets no credit for assembling and carrying out a successful military action.


Your little mind is trapped in partisan duality, Surool.

I have been MUCH harsher on the Bush administration than I have been on Obama - so far.

When the Repubs are in power, we get slapped with the RIGHT hand, and when the Dems are in power, we get slapped with the LEFT.

Why you partisan loons are too dull to realize that BOTH hands are attached to the same oligarchy is beyond me.

But I've interrupted your delusion, haven't I?

Carry on.

While you yourself may claim otherwise, this is a wholly partisan issue in these denier threads. I am lumping you in with the partisan hacks because you do a remarkable job of mimicking one. You might claim your true attitudes are other then the things you say in this thread, but the things you typed, and I have read with my own eyes, are what I have to go on. IF I am mislead by your words, I sincerely apologize.

Enjoy the rest of the show.


The point I was trying to make is that the fact that we have allowed ourselves to become so divided AS A PEOPLE along partisan lines IS the problem. We're not united in purpose as a nation, we've allowed ourselves to be increasingly divided into diverse squabbling factions that spend so much time scrutinizing each others rowing techniques that we have lost all sight of where our ship is headed.

Worse, it makes us vulnerable for easy manipulation. We get so busy bickering over things like birth certificates that we don't see the larger picture.




Misdirection, Stanley

Hmmm.....so releasing 800+ photos of prisoners being mistreated at Abu Gharib won't cause riots the muslim street but releasing a photo of Osama with a couple of extra vent holes in his head will?

After all, it's not like we're releasing a cartoon that has him wearing a turbin fashioned like a bomb.

I don't seem to remember the muslim street having a problem with KSM sawing Daniel Pearl's head off on video with a dull knife.

/farking tired of savages overreacting to stupid bullshiat

Eponymous: Hmmm.....so releasing 800+ photos of prisoners being mistreated at Abu Gharib won't cause riots

Uh, you do realize, they did release Abu Ghraib photos, right? And the premise of the rest of your comment is these Abu Ghraib photos caused no turmoil?

I mean as much offense as I possibly can because I swear you deserve it all. You are the most retarded person I have read, met, encountered, viewed, thought of, been associated in any way whatsoever today.

Seriously. Not only are you dumb. YOu take the cake for today. And here's the thing - I spend a few hours a day on Fark during my downtime. Yeah, you're that dumb.

No joke. That dumb.

you lie!

I don't buy the reason the White House gave for not officially releasing the photos or video taken during and after the raid. What about the fact that we killed him? How is that itself not "inflammatory?"

Bauer: you lie!


Hey Bauer, long time no see!

lennavan: Eponymous: Hmmm.....so releasing 800+ photos of prisoners being mistreated at Abu Gharib won't cause riots

Uh, you do realize, they did release Abu Ghraib photos, right? And the premise of the rest of your comment is these Abu Ghraib photos caused no turmoil?

I mean as much offense as I possibly can because I swear you deserve it all. You are the most retarded person I have read, met, encountered, viewed, thought of, been associated in any way whatsoever today.

Seriously. Not only are you dumb. YOu take the cake for today. And here's the thing - I spend a few hours a day on Fark during my downtime. Yeah, you're that dumb.

No joke. That dumb.



Wow. Who put super-glue on your tampon?

So tell us, oh wise one, if we wish to avoid further 'turmoil', should we:

A) Not post pictures of us doing things that make people hate us, or;
B) Stop doing things that make people hate us


/It's a tough question
//Take your time

Eponymous Quote 2011-05-05 01:40:44 AM

I don't seem to remember the muslim street having a problem with KSM sawing Daniel Pearl's head off on video with a dull knife.


I knew there was a reason I didn't care to watch any of those videos floating around, that's horrible. Nobody should want to watch that.

Farker T: Wow. Who put super-glue on your tampon?

Seriously, it was sand, not super-glue.

Farker T: So tell us, oh wise one, if we wish to avoid further 'turmoil', should we:

A) Not post pictures of us doing things that make people hate us, or;
B) Stop doing things that make people hate us

HOLY SHIAT THESE ARE THE ONLY TWO OPTIONS?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!!?!??!?!?!?!?????????????! !!????????????!??????????????!???????????????!

MY HANDBOOK DID NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT!1!!!1!ONE ONE ONE ONE OENEON!1!!1!!111111!11!!1!EXCLAMATIONMARK!1!!!

vygramul: Farklee: just like they swallowed the "yes, I killed the boogeyman and I put him in the river so you will have to take my word for it" shtick.

Considering the penalty for Osama putting out a video next Tuesday, this would be a retarded plan.


That is the best comeback you can offer? Queda won't release a video because Osama has been dead for a long time. Don't you think the admin is prepared to refute it? Then again, it's the same admin that thought it a good idea to drop dude into the sea.

Jeez, who is using less of their brain, the sheep or their herders?

I'm not into conspiracies but you idiots actually blindly believe what politicians tell you? They're not much better than used car salesmen.

Only in America...

Wah, I can't see the pictures. Stfu, you spoiled losers.

Too bad, it would hacve been a fun meme.

Ok, for all you people who "don't believe without a picture" I have some serious questions;

1) If Obama is lying, won't Osama just put out a new video tape and thus humiliate the US and embolden the bad guys?!?!?!

2) In the age of photoshop why would a scanned photo convince you of anything??

3) If Obama was going to fake killing Bin Laden, wouldn't he do it a week before the election?!?!?

I am seriously curious. I don't understand the skepticism.

21-7-b: Farklee

Seeing as you keep telling everyone the problem is that they don't think well enough and are not intelligent enough to see the truth, let me ask you how intelligent you are? How many kids did you go to school with, where were you academically within that group, what grades did you get? I would ask what university you went to, what you studied and what grade you got, but that will depend on whether your answers to the first questions are considerably better than we all expect them to be

I would think you were below average academically, but do tell, oh intelligent one



Tell that to the Japanese people who trusted their government who assured them the radiation-levels were safe enough to just simply stay indoors. Tell that to the hundreds of millions of democrats that voted for Obama because they wanted to rid the rich of their cushy tax breaks.

Intelligence requires a stream of complex, independent thought. Something that most people are willing to dismiss in this event because it soothes their emotions. It uplifts them and makes them feel patriotic pride (everything this story is intended to solicit).

I could easily just tell you that I was a dean's list grad from Harvard. I could also tell you that I could show you proof of my academic excellence, unfortunately you will have to trust me on my word because I dropped the transcripts in the sea. I assume you would believe me, right?

SpectroBoy: Ok, for all you people who "don't believe without a picture" I have some serious questions;

1) If Obama is lying, won't Osama just put out a new video tape and thus humiliate the US and embolden the bad guys?!?!?!

2) In the age of photoshop why would a scanned photo convince you of anything??

3) If Obama was going to fake killing Bin Laden, wouldn't he do it a week before the election?!?!?

I am seriously curious. I don't understand the skepticism.



First, let me say that the birthers are nutty. Trump, Palin and Beck are all whackos looking for their airtime and GOP finance. Therefore, I do not believe in anything to which they subscribe.
In fact, I don't believe either of those three have spoken out and given their position on this topic as of yet so I don't see your intersection.

I am skeptical because the logistics and chronology of events does not add up. To drop the body in the sea before even making an announcement was the worst move of all.

Timing: Obama announced his relection campaign a few weeks ago. No bump in his approval numbers. Obama put those crazy birthers in their place last week with the certificate. Still no bump, in fact a decline in numbers because of fuel prices and continuing unemployment rate.

There is no better example of the intentions of Obama then his Sunday night speech. Despite his excellent orator skills and ability to explain complex matters in lay terms, can anyone remember the last time Obama took so much credit for anything? Seriously, think about it. It was a cringe-fest with his taking responsibility from everything from the plan, the importance of gathering dna, to the execution. It was not his finest leadership moment. Anyone who studies this man knows to what I refer. It was completely out of character for him.

What we saw Sunday night was a man who was a vote for change. A leader promised to be different. And over two years later, we see a man who is hungry to maintain his power.

What a shame as he could have been an amazing leader of our time.

21-7-b: Farker Troll

so, this is the third time i've had to ask you to address this post. i've done you the courtesy of answering your drivel, yet all you do is troll

wow

shocking eh, i'm a reasonable person. you got me

Think for a moment of the case that was made for invading Iraq: We had documents, we had photos, we had assurances that 'credible evidence' showed that Saddam had WMD's AND was linked to 9-11 - AND WE HAD "the bipartisan acknowledgement of the evidence", as you so eloquently put it.

and what does that have to do with releasing a photo?

But you now know that all of this was a lie, don't you? Yet you still choose to believe anything that falls out of the mouth of your government.

why?

why do people get wound up with you? you're so bad at this, it really is laughable. i live in the uk and i'm the kind of guy who watches politicians blink. now, can you try to keep some basis of our conversation based in reality?

so, given that you aren't asking me questions that have any basis in reality. let's see if you can give some answers that do. why is it important that a photo - or PHOTO (as you would have it) - is released?

/you really struggle with reality, don't you?

You didn't answer the question.

SpectroBoy: Ok, for all you people who "don't believe without a picture" I have some serious questions;

1) If Obama is lying, won't Osama just put out a new video tape and thus humiliate the US and embolden the bad guys?!?!?!

2) In the age of photoshop why would a scanned photo convince you of anything??

3) If Obama was going to fake killing Bin Laden, wouldn't he do it a week before the election?!?!?

I am seriously curious. I don't understand the skepticism.

1. no because he's dead and has been for years.
2. it wouldn't. I would have liked an independent party to verify.
3. maybe, maybe not.

The announcement may serve the purpose of preemptively shutting up potential gop candidates and their BS rhetoric they will pull on stirring up the wasps.

If one gets rid of evidence before and independent third party can investigate, don't expect me to believe it. This is like Bigfoot to me (Ty Farker T).

21-7-b: Kirk's_Toupee

logins mixed up, or have you decided to jump back into the conversation having run out of it earlier?

i addressed the question. the question was fallacious and i pointed this out

huh?

Kirk's_Toupee: 21-7-b: Kirk's_Toupee

logins mixed up, or have you decided to jump back into the conversation having run out of it earlier?

i addressed the question. the question was fallacious and i pointed this out

huh?

I need coffee. I missed where you answered the question.

21-7-b: Farklee

so, you've got nothing? what a surprise!



reading comprehension, check into it.

21-7-b: Kirk's_Toupee

logins mixed up, or have you decided to jump back into the conversation having run out of it earlier?

i addressed the question. the question was fallacious and i pointed this out

Not it isn't. Check mate. Answer it or Farker T won.

21-7,

I took your question as rhetorical and responded in kind. I really don't think you want to compare academia or financial holdings with me son. :-)

Now go back and re-read my posts and tell me if you and others are applying critical thinking and logic. I guess other factors I posted above, including Obama's proven track record of selling his people on something he hopes they will buy (with Clinton's help) escaped you as well.

21-7-b: right, there is no evidence that the pakistani government, the pakistani isi, or the pakistani people as a whole were in cahoots with bin laden. nevertheless, there is evidence that he had many sympathizers, many of whom were in cahoots with him - for both ideological and practical reasons.

Link (new window)

Link (new window)

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And
apparently Mohamed Atta received a wire transfer of $100,000
from a bank account in Pakistan under the control of one of bin
Laden's lieutenants. And so I am just curious about that.
(new window)

there is plenty of evidence. all one has to do is look. (new window)

go ahead and read. I am sure you will come up with some excuse not to.

21-7-b: Kirk's_Toupee

With reference to the American government, Farker T stated "But you now know that all of this was a lie, don't you? Yet you still choose to believe anything that falls out of the mouth of your government." So, I pointed out that not only did I not reside in America, but that I did not believe everything any government told me - in fact, I suggested that I was extremely sceptical of statements from politicians

You are too dim to get that, though, aren't you, and I'm going to have to continue making you look like the kook you are. oh well

I missed that conversation entirely.
But I guess I am a kook.

21-7-b: Kirk's_Toupee

i stated, i live in the uk and i'm the kind of guy who watches politicians blink.

now, if the coffee isn't enough to get your brain working at an adequate level, and i'm sure it won't be, i'm happy to explain my comment to you

"



awwwww, Look who has to resort to name calling because they lost.

From one devil's advocate to another: You picked a side, you lost, get over.

21-7-b: Kirk's_Toupee

ok, so i started reading your first link and i got to

More troubling from a practical standpoint, many ISI officers are deeply hostile to the West and make no secret of their friendship with Bin Laden

That was many and not all

so does that support me or support you. gyac - it's not you

do all the other links defeat your argument as well (i'm not going to look at them, given that the first was so spectacularly self-defeating for you)?

nice picture, btw, you were quite good-looking once



just out of interest, how many years have you had your fingers in your ears for?

grasping for straws. You know how I know you haven't read the links?

here is a hint: Skimming =/= reading.

Anywho, this kook is off to ingest caffeine. Have a wonderful day...

21-7-b: Kirk's_Toupee

i "lost" by wasting my time raping a bunch of trolls, true. it's a small price to pay for showing that your argument was dishonest, irrational and without merit, imo. now we move on to why you spend a significant amount of time forcefully advancing arguments that are dishonest, irrational and without merit? why is that? that has to indicate that you have a personality flaw, doesn't it?

That's like you're opinion, man.

What's the matter, you don't want to wade through the the mound of evidence? Hell, there is more evidence that Bin Laden died in 2001 than last Sunday. (ok ok that was a troll.)

Have a good day:)

low_dazzle: Whoever wins in 2014 will (R-)elease them.

Right like how they (R-)eleased images of dead American soldiers in the media during the onset of the Wa[r] on Te[rr]o[r]. Clea[r]ly, t[r]anspa[r]ency is a value of the [r]ight.

thread still going eh?

Did Farker T blame the jews yet?

While you're at it, I woul dlike a picture of Hitler's and Judas' corpses...or they're still alive too.