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2011-05-02 12:36:36 PM  
Rush Limbaugh was one of the assholes all pissed off because the drones were violating Pakistan's sovereignty.
 
2011-05-02 12:36:53 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2011-05-02 12:37:17 PM  

McCainDemocrat: No way in the world that this story is credible. It's a fiction put together by Obama to try and scare legitimate candidates out of facing him in 2012.

Amongst other things

a) there is no DNA test fast enough to confirm his identity in under a day

b) even with a DNA "match" of BRAIN MATTER (not traditional DNA), it doesn't narrow the field due to his large family

c) they dumped his body in the ocean to prevent any excavations to disprove their claims (I mean "gave him an Islamic bruial", despite no Islamic person thinking ocean burials are Islamic)

d) OFA sent people out to start the giant crowds of people celebrating the news, and they got the media attention, causing more people to get out and celebrate

Recent history says these sorts of bumps don't last. But Obama did this to try and scare his most formidable challenger, Donald Trump, out of the race. Hopefully it won't work



4.5/10...-0.5 for using "amongst"
 
2011-05-02 12:37:29 PM  

Purdue_Pete: Everything about this was perfect.


Im sure the SEALS on board would have rather not have the helicopter stall as they came into the compound.

Thats like calling for a trick play in football and messing up the hike. Amazing they had the composure and ability to carry off the mission extraordinarily well regardless of it.
 
2011-05-02 12:37:56 PM  
Now hang that cacksmoking traitor, Manning, and I'll have the best year ever!!!
 
2011-05-02 12:38:14 PM  

CrispFlows: riverwalk barfly: JUst finished listening to Rush's program intro today -

"Obama deserves full credit for continuing Bush/Cheney policies" Blah BLah Blah

HA! That doesn't surprise me. To Rush, Any success must've been from continuing policies, any failures is clearly the current administration's fault.


And of course it's an outright lie. As soon as 2002, Bush was already saying Bin Laden was not a priority. He shifted focus to Iraq and the rest is history. Obama's approach was to shift focus back to Afghanistan and breathe new life into the search for Bin Laden. Which he did, and it turned out successful. He actually took the opposite strategy as W Bush and what do you know? It actually worked. Who'da thunk it?
 
2011-05-02 12:38:27 PM  

Nem Wan: Cat Food Sandwiches: This killing made possible by waterboarding. God bless America!

That's some derp logic right there: only interrogations with waterboarding -- which was done to three detainees and ended in 2003 -- produced information. The ongoing regular interrogations from 2003 onward produced nothing because only torture gets results. Supposedly bin Laden's hideout was built in 2006, but that waterboarding from 3-4 years before led us right to it, in just 8-9 years!


To be fair to Bush, et al, currently the report is that they found out the courier's identity from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and KSM was indeed waterboarded... aggressively. The courier eventually led them to Bin Laden so there is a connection.
 
2011-05-02 12:38:50 PM  

FlashHarry: america, fark yeah!


Now it's taken you guys almost 10 years to find him, it's your turn to hide tomorrow.

/back under the kitchen table
 
2011-05-02 12:38:50 PM  

scseth: Purdue_Pete: Everything about this was perfect.

Im sure the SEALS on board would have rather not have the helicopter stall as they came into the compound.

Thats like calling for a trick play in football and messing up the hike. Amazing they had the composure and ability to carry off the mission extraordinarily well regardless of it.


If tapes from the helicopter are ever released... I'm sure it'll be something like this... "oh &^%$, &^%$# &^$$*&^*&^ *&^^%^%"
 
2011-05-02 12:38:57 PM  
Hmmm...wonder if Flynavy was on that particular SEAL team...
 
2011-05-02 12:39:25 PM  

CanisNoir: John Paul Jones: So while Real Americanstm were screaming about birth certificates and calling Obama a traitor and every name under the sun, he was busy orchestrating the demise of OBL.

So who's a "traitor" and a "true patriot" now?

Well since you ask...

FTA
On April 29, Obama approved an operation to kill bin Laden.

Obama ordered an assassination.

In 1976, President Ford issued Executive Order 11905 to clarify U.S. foreign intelligence activities. The order was enacted in response to the post-Watergate revelations that the CIA had staged multiple attempts on the life of Cuban President Fidel Castro.

In a section of the order labeled "Restrictions on Intelligence Activities," Ford outlawed political assassination: Section 5(g), entitled "Prohibition on Assassination," states: "No employee of the United States Government shall engage in, or conspire to engage in, political assassination."

Since 1976, every U.S. president has upheld Ford's prohibition on assassinations. In 1978 President Carter issued an executive order with the chief purpose of reshaping the intelligence structure. In Section 2-305 of that order, Carter reaffirmed the U.S. prohibition on assassination.


CNN (new window)

So he goes directly against decades of precident as well as an established US Law which even the Lefts War Criminal "Bush" didn't go against. Funny how nobody is declaring how horrible it is we A) Recieved the information from those unfortunate detainee's that many want to be set free, but also nary a word about Obama ordering assassinations.

I too would buy the seal team a drink and I understand that they gave Bin Laden a chance to surrender and he refused. Still, the way this article is presented leaves some open questions. I wouldn't climb on your high horse just yet Mr. Patriot.


Osama bin Laden was not a head of state.

In addition, Nicolas Cage's hair is a bird.

Therefore your argument is invalid on two counts.
 
2011-05-02 12:40:08 PM  

Macinfarker: McCainDemocrat: No way in the world that this story is credible. It's a fiction put together by Obama to try and scare legitimate candidates out of facing him in 2012.

Amongst other things

a) there is no DNA test fast enough to confirm his identity in under a day

b) even with a DNA "match" of BRAIN MATTER (not traditional DNA), it doesn't narrow the field due to his large family

c) they dumped his body in the ocean to prevent any excavations to disprove their claims (I mean "gave him an Islamic bruial", despite no Islamic person thinking ocean burials are Islamic)

d) OFA sent people out to start the giant crowds of people celebrating the news, and they got the media attention, causing more people to get out and celebrate

Recent history says these sorts of bumps don't last. But Obama did this to try and scare his most formidable challenger, Donald Trump, out of the race. Hopefully it won't work


4.5/10...-0.5 for using "amongst"


He's traveling.
 
2011-05-02 12:40:09 PM  

InmanRoshi: Sullyville: There is a chance that the team that did this didn't even know who they were being sent to kill until after they killed them. Or maybe only their team leader knew. And there's a chance he didn't even know until they were in the helicopter.

I doubt it. This wasn't fly by the seat of your pants material. I'm sure they had been briefed and trained for this specific compound raid for weeks, if not months, waiting for the moment they got the greenlight.


I am sure that they trained for this particular compound - maybe in a large hangar with the floorplan taped to the floor, or maybe they even built a wooden compound to run drills through. But that doesn't necessarily mean they knew it was Bin Laden who they were going after. Maybe they were just told that it was a "high-value target" and that's it.
 
2011-05-02 12:41:12 PM  

Rapmaster2000: There better have been motorcycles with rocket launchers.

And dune buggies with blue headlights.


dailypop.files.wordpress.com

I'll raise with Flying Motor Cycles with Rocket Launchers and extra tight Spandex Headband heroBoy....
 
2011-05-02 12:41:15 PM  
Bin Laden should have known that hiding in a place called Abbotabad was about as bad as an idea as you could possibly have.
 
2011-05-02 12:41:28 PM  

thamike: 2. He was living like a prince. His entire holy warrior in the desert facade is f*cking destroyed.


Well, I wouldn't go that far. That 'compound' is only around twice the size of my little piece of turf. It's a bit over an acre in size, not all that impressive, really. Sure, his house looked nicer, but I have broadband and telephone, and he didn't.
 
2011-05-02 12:41:48 PM  

CanisNoir: John Paul Jones: So while Real Americanstm were screaming about birth certificates and calling Obama a traitor and every name under the sun, he was busy orchestrating the demise of OBL.

So who's a "traitor" and a "true patriot" now?

Well since you ask...

FTA
On April 29, Obama approved an operation to kill bin Laden.

Obama ordered an assassination.

In 1976, President Ford issued Executive Order 11905 to clarify U.S. foreign intelligence activities. The order was enacted in response to the post-Watergate revelations that the CIA had staged multiple attempts on the life of Cuban President Fidel Castro.

In a section of the order labeled "Restrictions on Intelligence Activities," Ford outlawed political assassination: Section 5(g), entitled "Prohibition on Assassination," states: "No employee of the United States Government shall engage in, or conspire to engage in, political assassination."

Since 1976, every U.S. president has upheld Ford's prohibition on assassinations. In 1978 President Carter issued an executive order with the chief purpose of reshaping the intelligence structure. In Section 2-305 of that order, Carter reaffirmed the U.S. prohibition on assassination.


CNN (new window)

So he goes directly against decades of precident as well as an established US Law which even the Lefts War Criminal "Bush" didn't go against. Funny how nobody is declaring how horrible it is we A) Recieved the information from those unfortunate detainee's that many want to be set free, but also nary a word about Obama ordering assassinations.

I too would buy the seal team a drink and I understand that they gave Bin Laden a chance to surrender and he refused. Still, the way this article is presented leaves some open questions. I wouldn't climb on your high horse just yet Mr. Patriot.


Basically, you suck.
 
2011-05-02 12:42:14 PM  
they said this obama compound is right next to a pakistani army training center?

sorry, oSama
 
2011-05-02 12:42:22 PM  

MugzyBrown: After a point-blank shot to the head:


Sounds a bit like Pablo Escobar. Went down in a shootout, shot through the melon. Too bad, because the US of course wanted to capture him.
 
2011-05-02 12:43:36 PM  

Sullyville: I am sure that they trained for this particular compound - maybe in a large hangar with the floorplan taped to the floor, or maybe they even built a wooden compound to run drills through. But that doesn't necessarily mean they knew it was Bin Laden who they were going after. Maybe they were just told that it was a "high-value target" and that's it.


You have a very odd view of how this stuff works. You think they would train for months to kill bin Laden at this precise location and not know that they were going to the same precise location to kill bin Laden? Turn off the tv and take a walk.
 
2011-05-02 12:43:37 PM  

MBrady: John Paul Jones: So while Real Americanstm were screaming about birth certificates and calling Obama a traitor and every name under the sun, he was busy orchestrating the demise of OBL.

So who's a "traitor" and a "true patriot" now?

HE was orchestrating the whole thing? RLY? Obviously you didn't RTFA.

No, sloopy, even though you want to kiss hopey's ass before he wipes himself, he did not "orchestrate" the whole thing.

You know what he did?

He approved it. That's it. He said, "yes" Sorta like that "girl" you met on WoW - but not in real life.

So, get a hold of your little tiny penis, go outside and play in traffic, while the adults talk.


So why are you still here?
 
2011-05-02 12:43:49 PM  

ferretman: Didn't President Obama commit an act of war against Pakistan by flying troops in from Afghanistan, crossing over into Pakistan without informing the Pakistan Government? Does this mean that Obama believes he can invade anyone to "get his man"?!?

I love the fact that dems/libs now approve of violating another country's sovereignty when it serves their best interests.


John McCain said he wouldn't go into Pakistan if they had actionable intelligence about bin Laden. I don't know about you, but I'm glad a dam/lib was in charge here. And not "I don't really think about him much" Bush or "Wouldn't have done it" McCain.
 
2011-05-02 12:44:08 PM  

ferretman: Didn't President Obama commit an act of war against Pakistan by flying troops in from Afghanistan, crossing over into Pakistan without informing the Pakistan Government? Does this mean that Obama believes he can invade anyone to "get his man"?!?

I love the fact that dems/libs now approve of violating another country's sovereignty when it serves their best interests.


Yeah, maybe the Dems will start clamoring for Obama to be "frog marched" for war crimes.

I hate hypocrisy.
 
2011-05-02 12:44:09 PM  

Edsel: To be fair to Bush, et al, currently the report is that they found out the courier's identity from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and KSM was indeed waterboarded... aggressively. The courier eventually led them to Bin Laden so there is a connection.


Link? I've seen several confusingly worded reports that mention Mohammed, but what they actually say is that the source named couriers used by Bin Laden and Mohammed, not that Mohammed named Bin Laden's courier.
 
2011-05-02 12:44:14 PM  

greatmoose: Got a relative that recently became a SEAL. Wonder what team he's on...


SEAL Team 6/DevGru are bad ass motha farkers.

Any SEAL members are but there is a reason why SEAL Team 6 are the counter-terrorism go to guys.
 
2011-05-02 12:44:21 PM  

OKcomputer79: Bin Laden should have known that hiding in a place called Abbotabad was about as bad as an idea as you could possibly have.


Could have been worse. Could have been Costellobad.
 
2011-05-02 12:44:25 PM  

InmanRoshi: ILikeRealPencils: So it is possible to send at least two helicopters of full of US troops over a couple hundred miles of Pakistan, to within 30 miles or so of the capitol city w/o them noticing?

Who's going to detect them? It's not like Pakistan has some equivalent of NORAD. The western frontier of Pakistan is generally lawless and without formal government. The Afghanistan/Pakistan border makes the US/Mexico border look like the Berlin Wall, and it's a generally small country that you can get in and out of quickly.


It might not have been that stealthy - especially since one of the helicopters apparently went down due to mechanical failure. A couple hours before the news became official, there was a seemingly innocuous newsflash about a helicopter going down in Abbottabad, after which the authorities immediately cordoned off the whole area.

Now they may have snuck in, but it really doesn't look like they were able to get out quietly.
 
2011-05-02 12:44:55 PM  

McCainDemocrat:

a) there is no DNA test fast enough to confirm his identity in under a day,


Yeah ya' can. Portable testers can do it in about an hour.

b) even with a DNA "match" of BRAIN MATTER (not traditional DNA), it doesn't narrow the field due to his large family

Large family even better.....bigger field to compare to.

c) they dumped his body in the ocean to prevent any excavations to disprove their claims (I mean "gave him an Islamic bruial", despite no Islamic person thinking ocean burials are Islamic)

The "at sea" part isn't the "Islamic" part....the burial within 24 hours is the important part.

d) OFA sent people out to start the giant crowds of people celebrating the news, and they got the media attention, causing more people to get out and celebrate

Uh....sure.

Recent history says these sorts of bumps don't last. But Obama did this to try and scare his most formidable challenger, Donald Trump, out of the race. Hopefully it won't work

Donald Trump a "formidable challenger"? Ha ha ha ha.....fark me, I thought you were being serious there for a while......
 
2011-05-02 12:45:26 PM  

CanisNoir: John Paul Jones: So while Real Americanstm were screaming about birth certificates and calling Obama a traitor and every name under the sun, he was busy orchestrating the demise of OBL.

So who's a "traitor" and a "true patriot" now?

Well since you ask...

FTA
On April 29, Obama approved an operation to kill bin Laden.

Obama ordered an assassination.

In 1976, President Ford issued Executive Order 11905 to clarify U.S. foreign intelligence activities. The order was enacted in response to the post-Watergate revelations that the CIA had staged multiple attempts on the life of Cuban President Fidel Castro.

In a section of the order labeled "Restrictions on Intelligence Activities," Ford outlawed political assassination: Section 5(g), entitled "Prohibition on Assassination," states: "No employee of the United States Government shall engage in, or conspire to engage in, political assassination."

Since 1976, every U.S. president has upheld Ford's prohibition on assassinations. In 1978 President Carter issued an executive order with the chief purpose of reshaping the intelligence structure. In Section 2-305 of that order, Carter reaffirmed the U.S. prohibition on assassination.


CNN (new window)

So he goes directly against decades of precident as well as an established US Law which even the Lefts War Criminal "Bush" didn't go against. Funny how nobody is declaring how horrible it is we A) Recieved the information from those unfortunate detainee's that many want to be set free, but also nary a word about Obama ordering assassinations.

I too would buy the seal team a drink and I understand that they gave Bin Laden a chance to surrender and he refused. Still, the way this article is presented leaves some open questions. I wouldn't climb on your high horse just yet Mr. Patriot.


As I am sure this has been pointed out to you, it may bear repeating. OBL was a high, if not the highest ranking member of our enemy's order of battle. This was nice and legal pal.
 
2011-05-02 12:45:41 PM  

palelizard: FTFY. He'll just have to go on with his bad-ass self being quiet. one-up anyone with a security clearance, and that doesn't include you.


FTFY, OAFA.

And he can talk to you, or any other general member of the public, as soon as Obama (or any other President) declassifies the information. If not, then 50 years it is. That is, 50 years for everyone without a security clearance.
 
2011-05-02 12:45:53 PM  

dittybopper: Well, I wouldn't go that far. That 'compound' is only around twice the size of my little piece of turf. It's a bit over an acre in size, not all that impressive, really. Sure, his house looked nicer, but I have broadband and telephone, and he didn't.


He was living in a mansion in an affluent neighborhood. What your or my idea of a mansion in an affluent neighborhood is doesn't really matter. He wasn't braving the elements, fighting the Man. That was his entire marketing image, and it's f*cked.
 
2011-05-02 12:45:56 PM  

1macgeek: the Seal that shot Bin Laden will never, ever be one-upped by anyone discussing war stories.


Let us pray this to be the case.

Russ1642: BraveNewCheneyWorld: RoyBatty: If any of the Farkettes have been wondering where I've been the past 48 hours, I actually lead Seal Team Six, and in fact, it was my shot that killed Osama Ben Ladin.

eip.

I'm a Kernel in the Marine Core, I know the people involved, and I know you're lying.

I'm just some guy in Canada and I knew he was lying.


We need to see your long-form birth certificate before any of us is buying that.
 
2011-05-02 12:46:13 PM  

ko_kyi: MugzyBrown: After a point-blank shot to the head:

Sounds a bit like Pablo Escobar. Went down in a shootout, shot through the melon. Too bad, because the US of course wanted to capture him.


No we didn't. This was a pure elimination mission. In/out/quick/clean/done.
 
2011-05-02 12:46:16 PM  
You know the awesome thing?

Anyone who insists on using the Barack Hussein Obama name would get back a - "Oh, the one that ordered a hit on Osama Bin Ladin? Good, I was worried I confused him for somebody else."
 
2011-05-02 12:46:50 PM  
Oh come on guys, where is my relevent sniper-cat caption?!
 
2011-05-02 12:47:11 PM  

ko_kyi: MugzyBrown: After a point-blank shot to the head:

Sounds a bit like Pablo Escobar. Went down in a shootout, shot through the melon. Too bad, because the US of course wanted to capture him.


I'm sure the orders were "If you can capture him, please do so, but not at the slightest risk to your team."
 
2011-05-02 12:47:37 PM  

scseth: Purdue_Pete: Everything about this was perfect.

Im sure the SEALS on board would have rather not have the helicopter stall as they came into the compound.

Thats like calling for a trick play in football and messing up the hike. Amazing they had the composure and ability to carry off the mission extraordinarily well regardless of it.


Helicopters are unfortunately fragile as far as aircraft go. They're basically a bundle of vibration, and are often in missions that put them into dangerous situations.

But one Black Hawk for OBL? Fair trade.
 
2011-05-02 12:47:44 PM  

Itar10582: He sent them in to capture him, he died resisting. It's not an assassination.


I heard this morning they went in to kill him, not take him captive. There was no way he'd go peacefully anyhow.
 
2011-05-02 12:47:48 PM  

MrPenny: Donald Trump a "formidable challenger"? Ha ha ha ha.....fark me, I thought you were being serious there for a while......


McCainDemocrat is danlpoon when he wants to be crazy. He's Davey Croquette when he wants to be taken seriously. He's only McCainDemocrat when he's traveling.
 
2011-05-02 12:48:03 PM  

Biological Ali: A couple hours before the news became official, there was a seemingly innocuous newsflash about a helicopter going down in Abbottabad, after which the authorities immediately cordoned off the whole area.


One guy tweeted about the helicopters and aftermath without knowing it was the Osama raid. You have to love this day and age of the Internet.
 
2011-05-02 12:48:08 PM  

1macgeek: itazurakko: I'm kinda wondering how they got OUT again afterward? Presumably the helicopter picked them up again but still, coming IN they had the advantage of surprise but going out you'd think whoever's in the house would be boiling mad and out for blood - was it only the four people killed that were in the house, then? No extra layers of guards on the outside?

This is Seal Team Six. All resistance was neutralized way before they left. Not saying they were killed, just that they wouldn't be kicking up a fuss for quite a while after Six left.

That being said, I can't say the Seals wouldn't exact... a price for the Seals who fell in combat at the hands of the terrorists stirred up by this psycho, either. Using a woman as a shield probably just just pissed the Seals off all the more. Sadly, we won't know for 50 years exactly what happened in that compound unless Obama (or some future President) declassifies the info and releases it.

Even so, as I have read online : the Seal that shot Bin Laden will never, ever be one-upped by anyone discussing war stories.


Naw you don't tell anyone about it. Those guys have a serious target on their backs right about now.
 
2011-05-02 12:48:14 PM  

Edsel: To be fair to Bush, et al, currently the report is that they found out the courier's identity from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and KSM was indeed waterboarded... aggressively.


Four years ago? Sorry, but that leaves quite a large gap in the public record. Credit Bush's torture all you want but obviously something else developed between 2003 and 2007.
 
2011-05-02 12:48:21 PM  
RE: Capture or Kill

""All of the contingency planning was that we would encounter heavy resistance," the U.S. official said. "That is what we expected and what happened. Obviously if everybody had put there hands up and surrendered we would have taken them but that did not happen and we did not expect it."

That assumption bore itself out, the official said.

"We encountered resistance upon entering the compound," CNN was told.

A second U.S. official says the president's order was always to capture or kill bin Laden. The second official said the assumption all along was there would be no surrender by the al Qaeda leader."
 
2011-05-02 12:48:24 PM  

sprawl15: bgsmith330: Next year, someone will make this story into an action movie, and it will be nominated for an oscar. Then, someone will try to make it into a videogame, but outraged soccer moms will cause the publisher to pull out of the project, and it will never be released.

This is actually just an urban legend, the Flight 93 videogame was canceled because the producers couldn't make anything other than an anti-climatic ending.


Actually, I was thinking of Six Days in Fallujah vs. Black Hawk Down/The Hurt Locker, but yours works too.
 
2011-05-02 12:48:48 PM  

dittybopper: OKcomputer79: Bin Laden should have known that hiding in a place called Abbotabad was about as bad as an idea as you could possibly have.

Could have been worse. Could have been Costellobad.


Apu's on first?
 
2011-05-02 12:49:31 PM  
www.transformer-ivan.net

/ So sorry.
 
2011-05-02 12:49:37 PM  
www.bolgernow.com
 
2011-05-02 12:49:38 PM  
I was just watching a news report that there is speculation we might soon see actual video of the operation. So that got me speculating if we would see the kill shot. I have seen on either BBC or AJZ that OBL reportedly hid behind a woman using her as a hostage, and that is how she was killed. So they might not release that. But there should be some footage available possibly by this evening.
 
2011-05-02 12:49:48 PM  
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fark you, Pakistan!
 
2011-05-02 12:49:53 PM  
He was dumb to fight the Seals, esp after "Operation Redwing"
i135.photobucket.com
 
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